Are successful gamblers seen as addicts?

[Quidat]

I wish I could have posted this in a more better place but since the thoughts came from gambling addiction, I thought it wise to ask this question over here and I hope we can discuss and get this straight.

Just as the tittle already ask, I really want to know if people who are successful in gambling also seen as addicts because I believe  for one to be successful in gambling or whatever they choose to do, there must be some good amount  of time and effort invested in it as well as money and we know that a successful  gambler must have invested  both time, effort and even money to make any reasonable  winning  and these also are features of an addict as there are always excessive time spent on a betting site.

Now let's be sincere, will you also classify a successful gambler as an addict?

In today's society, people who are addicted to gambling are very little trusted and liked by people. And when people see a successful gambler, society thinks that he is addicted to winning and has lost his physical and mental balance inside. But actually this is not the right thinking at all because a successful gambler is never an addict because he spends both money and time to win and also puts in a lot of effort. Both gamblers only try hard to succeed and invest their money for that purpose, but here they are not so much addicts. If they had become so addicted, they would never have gone ahead and invested such money and efforts, and I think a gambler always aims to succeed by putting his own efforts into action.

Even I think that those who are successful gamblers cannot be seen as addicts. In fact they are the survivors.
If they were addicts then they would be keeping on playing and losing money.
Since they have become successful, they would have found way to control their emotions and manage the risks in gambling.
Such people cannot be called as addicts from my perspective.

Survivors indeed and it would be that safe to assume out that these successful gamblers are to those people who did able to survive out that addiction that gambling brings on which we can assume
that there would really comes a time that you would really be that become that impulsive when it comes to betting or making some gambling because we dont really like to lose
money and it is really just that normal that people would really be sharing up on the same sentiment or reaction when it comes to this. This is why it would be always best that you should really
know on when to quit up and stop on the time that you do see that you are already going past beyond your limits because going over or beyond it does signifies that addiction
is already that severe.

[Accardo]

Indeed, some gamblers, after they're done earning big in gambling won't have any reason to gamble anymore. These types of gamblers won't be seen as addicts like Oktana suggested, it's more of a habit and they can easily let go of gambling whenever they wish. However, it could be difficult for some gamblers to stop gambling after winning a significant sum of money through gambling, it's rare to get those who invest in real estate and set up businesses using their winning. Recently the results always show of gamblers who would spend all their winnings back to the house. Even when a gambler does that, it still doesn't sound like addiction if he's in control of all his gambling actions. Yet, if care is not taken the gambler would miss out on his control and then chase after the money he just spent on gambling.

We are not allowed to generalize in any gambling situation, but players do change in attitude and we may not detect who will become addicted to gambling. Whether successful or not. Hence, the question should be who has the most self-control, if a successful gambler doesn't keep up with his discipline he can fail and vice versa. And we shouldn't consider the general opinions of society on issues they know nothing about. Those who lose in gambling are being looked down upon, in society, and some naive players who feel inferior to those ill treatments spend their own money to prove to their friends that they're also winning in gambling. Putting themselves into a more hard condition and suffering. Players who do it for the fun would care less about the hearsay of their close friends. Most times we get those backbites when we lose, not just in gambling. It's a natural reaction, the loser has no parent, and the winner has so many parents. Gambling isn't exempted, provided money is involved.

It's practically true that some gamblers who have won a lot of money may feel compelled to win more due to the overwhelming pleasure and greed they experience, especially if they win an enormous amount of money. Some people who are aware of their limit will also gradually stop gambling since they are already satisfied and only want to recover the money they had lost from gambling. Some gamblers are also dissatisfied with their winnings and have experienced so many losses that they have begun to chase losses, which is what leads to addiction.

Gamblers' lifestyles are also influenced by their mental state, which is beyond our control. True, a lot depends on the people around you. It is common for many people to consider themselves to have a huge impact on your life, regardless of whether you gamble or not. Even if they believe that all you desire is to improve yourself, they will still criticize you for your actions. Up until the point at which you feel driven to convince everyone that you achieved, thinking, "I must prove something." being desperate to prove to everyone that you succeeded. If and only if you choose the right path, since some people tend to suddenly deviate from it.
The same is true with gambling; even if you win, many people will respect you and ask you about your strategies or offer you lots of advice on how to improve your game. On the other hand, if you lose, many people will doubt you and assume that you are an addicted gambler who only plays to win money but still ends up losing.

The mental state of every gambler is crucial in preparing him for a better gambling journey; good or bad. Gamblers who didn't start gambling with the right orientation end up facing rough gambling experiences in the future. As they may not be able to handle their current gambling problem. Hence, they'll feel that every gambler feels the same way. And would continue moving towards the same route, then end up losing out on the self-control battle and causing their mental health to get bad and unstable. Watching closely the life of most addicts, you'd notice that at some point they tend to have a rethink, and in a few minutes they'll go back to gambling. The mental health of the gambler has gotten unstable and may need to be fixed or cured through therapy. When in therapy the healing process still points back to the addict's gambling starting point. Newbies are required to be cautious about gambling the very first day they get into gambling. People think that being careful as a gambler is only for the pros or the players who have been in the niche for a long period. Gambling doesn't recognize any newbie or pro, anybody who pays no attention to his mental health or self-concept may find himself subject to problem gambling.

Lack of control, only destroys the gambling journey of most gamblers, thereby leading them to make mistakes like taking loans, spending all their money, and losing productivity. Successful gamblers stay careful not to be carried away, and most of them tend to obey the few gambling techniques or strategies, and then optimize those methods to fit into their gambling strategy. Whether they win or lose, they remain successful and won't suffer problem gambling. Some who spend out few hours gambling, don't mind stopping immediately after they win money, the game continues until the duration is over. And the gambler will never play again, not minding the recent results, win or lose. Successful gamblers have good mind control over what they see in gambling. That's why most people love them, because, despite being active gamblers they don't get addicted or misbehave in society.

[hedgeh0g]

Seems contradictory but theres also the possibility of just being lucky.  If continually gambling, never taking cash off the table and hoping for the streak to continue then that could be seen as a problem gambler.  Not knowing or being able to stop at logical points such as being tired or having already done that well that evening would suggest possibly a problem could develop not that it must do so.   Always try to bet less at times, I do know some people only want to bet more which is where it will lead to a problem I think stay regular and stick to some plan dont just react in a moment.

I would still differentiate between a successful player and a lucky one. Luck tends to run out and rarely lasts very long. Usually these are small moments. I would call a successful player a professional who has a clear strategy that allows him to have income over the long term. Of course, luck as an element of this can also affect success, but it is not of paramount importance.

I would call a successful player partially dependent, because success is achieved by working on oneself for a long time, and a professional will not be able to achieve this success if he does not experience passion and interest in the game. Therefore, I would call it a controlled dependence, when it is necessary the switch turns on, and when it is not necessary it turns off, if you understand what I mean.

[LUCKMCFLY]

ohh I see, maybe there are people like that but I myself don't know what the purpose of those who are like that by going to the casino just to watch. do you mean the casino gives free food and drinks?
that makes sense, maybe they are there to make friends with the aim of just watching but on the other hand they are looking for friends and maybe they also aim to find good people to offer them to join gambling where they are given capital by people they just met, but this is unlikely to happen because it is unethical if we also finance gamblers who do not have money. but no one knows what actions will be taken by someone if we find people who we think are fun and good, sometimes myself if I find new friends who are fun and good I want to give them some money or gifts that's how I feel. This makes sense in casinos there may also be people who want to socialize not only to gamble, because the nature of each person is also different, so maybe it's true that there are some people who go to casinos not to gamble but to make friends or to socialize, and I also think this is not wrong, but the question is, do casinos allow entry to people who just want to watch, I mean do they allow someone to enter but not to gamble? because I myself have never set foot in a physical casino.

maybe you mean those who go to the casino to observe the game and when he finds an opening or motivation like you said that then he immediately plays quickly this makes sense, I have also seen this but in a movie hahaha . maybe some people who do this because they have their own skills where they have thoughts and instincts on gambling that lead to victory. also like you said that, indeed I also think there are people like that, and I think there are also people who have a lot of money but don't do gambling where they go to the casino just to watch it, also there are old people who don't have good health like people who can't walk and they tend to use wheelchairs, but usually people like this tend to be rich people who have a lot of money, and they seek pleasure only in gambling. it seems that we will find a variety of different people in the casino because it is one of the places where many people gather to seek pleasure or other things such as finding friends to socialize.

Well, I could say that yes, in particular I have always seen people like that in places, not only in casinos but in almost all possible things that are fun or places that provide a service where the presence of people is sometimes necessary , and it is incredible but there are People who are like this all the time, there is a very curious fact, where I live in the capital there is a very famous square and there there are many quite advanced people who have their chess boards and they start playing They play chess all day there, and they make bets, the bets can be very low, for example about 5 dollars, but these old guys are Serious , because when they play they can do it all day and if they Maintain the level, they are able to play up to 10 games of chess are there in front of everyone and when you see that in the square you can see up to 20 people like that with their boards and Whoever can get there and challenge them , they play, they don't suffer from those fears.

When you play there, the level they have is impressive, they are very strategic. And at least with 3 games I play and with a high level, I get tired, they don't, they maintain the level, and if there is a person who reaches play with them, everyone stands around to see how the others play, and if they are playing, it is impressive how they make things look, just as there are some who play, there are others who come just to watch, they go and have Lunch on the street, and they go back to the court just to see how the others play, and then they play, they talk until other players arrive to play, and they are happy like that , chess is not a game of chance but they make it almost like that, and I find that very interesting because they make it seem that things , whatever they can, first, not get tired, see it as a habit, second, they entertain themselves, those who play the most win money, and fourth of all, they realize and When they see the Final of the game , they win. late that most of them leave and then the next day they arrive very early, just like this experience, they do the same with a casino.

[n00ber]

I would still differentiate between a successful player and a lucky one. Luck tends to run out and rarely lasts very long. Usually these are small moments. I would call a successful player a professional who has a clear strategy that allows him to have income over the long term. Of course, luck as an element of this can also affect success, but it is not of paramount importance.

I would call a successful player partially dependent, because success is achieved by working on oneself for a long time, and a professional will not be able to achieve this success if he does not experience passion and interest in the game. Therefore, I would call it a controlled dependence, when it is necessary the switch turns on, and when it is not necessary it turns off, if you understand what I mean.

I don't think that people who are successful in gambling rely on new skills to win. I still consider luck to be an essential factor. I agree that he has a very good skill strategy. He controls himself in gambling.

We cannot call successful people addicts, because sometimes he only plays a few games and he wins big in gambling. Only those who are successful and continuously gamble uncontrollably are considered addicted. But success also makes people forget that he was also addicted to gambling.

[maydna]

I would still differentiate between a successful player and a lucky one. Luck tends to run out and rarely lasts very long. Usually these are small moments. I would call a successful player a professional who has a clear strategy that allows him to have income over the long term. Of course, luck as an element of this can also affect success, but it is not of paramount importance.

I would call a successful player partially dependent, because success is achieved by working on oneself for a long time, and a professional will not be able to achieve this success if he does not experience passion and interest in the game. Therefore, I would call it a controlled dependence, when it is necessary the switch turns on, and when it is not necessary it turns off, if you understand what I mean.

I don't think that people who are successful in gambling rely on new skills to win. I still consider luck to be an essential factor. I agree that he has a very good skill strategy. He controls himself in gambling.

We cannot call successful people addicts, because sometimes he only plays a few games and he wins big in gambling. Only those who are successful and continuously gamble uncontrollably are considered addicted. But success also makes people forget that he was also addicted to gambling.

But successful gamblers also need skills, and they even learn new skills to be able to win. Even though learning new skills takes time, they are willing to spend the time to improve the skills needed to gamble to win. And we have to know that when he learns new skills, he can still control himself in gambling because he knows that it is important for him to maintain.

We also don't know for sure whether successful gamblers are among those who are addicted to gambling. But they don't seem to be addicted to gambling because they have better self-control than most gamblers, and they also know what to do if something doesn't go as they expected. Those who are successful in gambling can remain in control while gambling without having the desire to chase after winnings if they win because they know it will only make them forget themselves.

[pawanjain]

I wish I could have posted this in a more better place but since the thoughts came from gambling addiction, I thought it wise to ask this question over here and I hope we can discuss and get this straight.

Just as the tittle already ask, I really want to know if people who are successful in gambling also seen as addicts because I believe  for one to be successful in gambling or whatever they choose to do, there must be some good amount  of time and effort invested in it as well as money and we know that a successful  gambler must have invested  both time, effort and even money to make any reasonable  winning  and these also are features of an addict as there are always excessive time spent on a betting site.

Now let's be sincere, will you also classify a successful gambler as an addict?

In today's society, people who are addicted to gambling are very little trusted and liked by people. And when people see a successful gambler, society thinks that he is addicted to winning and has lost his physical and mental balance inside. But actually this is not the right thinking at all because a successful gambler is never an addict because he spends both money and time to win and also puts in a lot of effort. Both gamblers only try hard to succeed and invest their money for that purpose, but here they are not so much addicts. If they had become so addicted, they would never have gone ahead and invested such money and efforts, and I think a gambler always aims to succeed by putting his own efforts into action.

Even I think that those who are successful gamblers cannot be seen as addicts. In fact they are the survivors.
If they were addicts then they would be keeping on playing and losing money.
Since they have become successful, they would have found way to control their emotions and manage the risks in gambling.
Such people cannot be called as addicts from my perspective.

Perhaps the word success is meant in this context and more precisely is success or success in managing the gambler's own finances and self-control which means that they know what to do and what not to do when in certain situations, the success referred to is not success in general which is like people achieving success in the business world which means that there is a high point that has been reached, because of course in gambling there are no stages other than coming with money as capital and going home with an answer between winning or losing.

Another thing is that of course I quite agree with your idea that successful gamblers cannot be called addicts, which actually there is a significant difference if we dig deeper, successful gamblers are as I and you have mentioned that they manage their gambling activities well so that they do not cause many problems in their lives, especially in their finances, while addicted gamblers they simply cannot miss a single time not to gamble, which means they are excessive and have an approach that can be said to be aggressive, so maybe I think another word for successful gamblers is those who are smart.

Certainly. Success in gambling can have different meanings. For some, being a successful gambler can be just winning money.
For some, it can be managing their expenses and not lose a lot of money. For some, it can be playing regularly.
A lot of it depends on the context and a lot of it depends on the players perspective. So the answer to OP's question cannot be really answered.
The question itself depends on ones' perspective and so the answer would determine the context of the question.

[DubemIfedigbo001]

When you say successful gambler, do you mean a gambler who has won more than he has lost, or do you mean a gambler who is addicted enough that he doesn't do any other thing apart from gambling?.
If the second one is the case, then the person isn't successful at all, why because gambling is never a profession and should be discouraged for someone in his right senses choosing to do nothing else than gambling. Its wrong in many ramifications. Unless he's owning a gambling platform, the decision is a disastrous one as gambling is not a certain hustle that you can  rely on, there are good days and bad days and the bad days comes with a great disadvantage that the person involved will be so discouraged and frustrated that he/she will sought other ways to make up and out of pressure, he might choose the wrong way and get himself into addiction troubles to meet up with necessities.
In A nutshell, if you're lucky enough to be getting wins in gambling, its not a criteria to take it as a career as its just a fun medium and should be treated as such no matter what as the repercussions of depending on gambling might be far detrimental then ever imaginable when the tables turn around.

[hedgeh0g]

I would still differentiate between a successful player and a lucky one. Luck tends to run out and rarely lasts very long. Usually these are small moments. I would call a successful player a professional who has a clear strategy that allows him to have income over the long term. Of course, luck as an element of this can also affect success, but it is not of paramount importance.

I would call a successful player partially dependent, because success is achieved by working on oneself for a long time, and a professional will not be able to achieve this success if he does not experience passion and interest in the game. Therefore, I would call it a controlled dependence, when it is necessary the switch turns on, and when it is not necessary it turns off, if you understand what I mean.

I don't think that people who are successful in gambling rely on new skills to win. I still consider luck to be an essential factor. I agree that he has a very good skill strategy. He controls himself in gambling.

We cannot call successful people addicts, because sometimes he only plays a few games and he wins big in gambling. Only those who are successful and continuously gamble uncontrollably are considered addicted. But success also makes people forget that he was also addicted to gambling.

But successful gamblers also need skills, and they even learn new skills to be able to win. Even though learning new skills takes time, they are willing to spend the time to improve the skills needed to gamble to win. And we have to know that when he learns new skills, he can still control himself in gambling because he knows that it is important for him to maintain.

We also don't know for sure whether successful gamblers are among those who are addicted to gambling. But they don't seem to be addicted to gambling because they have better self-control than most gamblers, and they also know what to do if something doesn't go as they expected. Those who are successful in gambling can remain in control while gambling without having the desire to chase after winnings if they win because they know it will only make them forget themselves.

Yes, it reminds me of a professional athlete who needs to constantly stay in shape otherwise equally strong players will try to unseat him. Instead of training in the gym, a professional poker player needs training on a poker simulator with a detailed analysis of the hand or with a coach who will share subtle secrets with us. Also, for an athlete, muscle mass is important, while for a poker player, a flexible brain is important.

Yes, what matters to them is not winning in the first place, but how the process of achieving this occurs. This is the key idea. While an ordinary player has only winning in his head, and then everything else, such people will never be able to win.

[Ruttoshi]

When you say successful gambler, do you mean a gambler who has won more than he has lost, or do you mean a gambler who is addicted enough that he doesn't do any other thing apart from gambling?.
If the second one is the case, then the person isn't successful at all, why because gambling is never a profession and should be discouraged for someone in his right senses choosing to do nothing else than gambling. Its wrong in many ramifications. Unless he's owning a gambling platform, the decision is a disastrous one as gambling is not a certain hustle that you can  rely on, there are good days and bad days and the bad days comes with a great disadvantage that the person involved will be so discouraged and frustrated that he/she will sought other ways to make up and out of pressure, he might choose the wrong way and get himself into addiction troubles to meet up with necessities.
In A nutshell, if you're lucky enough to be getting wins in gambling, its not a criteria to take it as a career as its just a fun medium and should be treated as such no matter what as the repercussions of depending on gambling might be far detrimental then ever imaginable when the tables turn around.

Gambling is not a profession and I don't think that anyone can be successful gambler. I haven't seen anyone that has won more than he has lost in gambling. This is why anyone that is gambling needs to caution himself so that he doesn't become an addict because when you allow gambling take over you, because you think you can be successful with it, you will bring frustration upon yourself.

I will say that gambling is more of a guess thing and such activity should be relied on. The only person that can say is a successful gambler, is that gambler that after winning big, he invested the money in a business and quits gambling finally. But if the person is still gambling, he will loose everything back to gambling because he is greedy and will want to win again.

[carlisle1]

I would still differentiate between a successful player and a lucky one. Luck tends to run out and rarely lasts very long. Usually these are small moments. I would call a successful player a professional who has a clear strategy that allows him to have income over the long term. Of course, luck as an element of this can also affect success, but it is not of paramount importance.

I would call a successful player partially dependent, because success is achieved by working on oneself for a long time, and a professional will not be able to achieve this success if he does not experience passion and interest in the game. Therefore, I would call it a controlled dependence, when it is necessary the switch turns on, and when it is not necessary it turns off, if you understand what I mean.

I don't think that people who are successful in gambling rely on new skills to win. I still consider luck to be an essential factor. I agree that he has a very good skill strategy. He controls himself in gambling.

We cannot call successful people addicts, because sometimes he only plays a few games and he wins big in gambling. Only those who are successful and continuously gamble uncontrollably are considered addicted. But success also makes people forget that he was also addicted to gambling.

I see your point and it is valid for some instances, there are gambler who can play few games with decent bankroll and manage to win huge,
they are just too good, and they've got control over their emotions.

They use that experienced not to fall with greed, they are not addicted as they don't need to stay longer and play more just to satisfy the need of gambling.

Else, they are using that experienced as an edge for their gambling participation and make decent profits.

[junder]

ohh I see, maybe there are people like that but I myself don't know what the purpose of those who are like that by going to the casino just to watch. do you mean the casino gives free food and drinks?
that makes sense, maybe they are there to make friends with the aim of just watching but on the other hand they are looking for friends and maybe they also aim to find good people to offer them to join gambling where they are given capital by people they just met, but this is unlikely to happen because it is unethical if we also finance gamblers who do not have money. but no one knows what actions will be taken by someone if we find people who we think are fun and good, sometimes myself if I find new friends who are fun and good I want to give them some money or gifts that's how I feel. This makes sense in casinos there may also be people who want to socialize not only to gamble, because the nature of each person is also different, so maybe it's true that there are some people who go to casinos not to gamble but to make friends or to socialize, and I also think this is not wrong, but the question is, do casinos allow entry to people who just want to watch, I mean do they allow someone to enter but not to gamble? because I myself have never set foot in a physical casino.

maybe you mean those who go to the casino to observe the game and when he finds an opening or motivation like you said that then he immediately plays quickly this makes sense, I have also seen this but in a movie hahaha . maybe some people who do this because they have their own skills where they have thoughts and instincts on gambling that lead to victory. also like you said that, indeed I also think there are people like that, and I think there are also people who have a lot of money but don't do gambling where they go to the casino just to watch it, also there are old people who don't have good health like people who can't walk and they tend to use wheelchairs, but usually people like this tend to be rich people who have a lot of money, and they seek pleasure only in gambling. it seems that we will find a variety of different people in the casino because it is one of the places where many people gather to seek pleasure or other things such as finding friends to socialize.

Well, I could say that yes, in particular I have always seen people like that in places, not only in casinos but in almost all possible things that are fun or places that provide a service where the presence of people is sometimes necessary , and it is incredible but there are People who are like this all the time, there is a very curious fact, where I live in the capital there is a very famous square and there there are many quite advanced people who have their chess boards and they start playing They play chess all day there, and they make bets, the bets can be very low, for example about 5 dollars, but these old guys are Serious , because when they play they can do it all day and if they Maintain the level, they are able to play up to 10 games of chess are there in front of everyone and when you see that in the square you can see up to 20 people like that with their boards and Whoever can get there and challenge them , they play, they don't suffer from those fears.

When you play there, the level they have is impressive, they are very strategic. And at least with 3 games I play and with a high level, I get tired, they don't, they maintain the level, and if there is a person who reaches play with them, everyone stands around to see how the others play, and if they are playing, it is impressive how they make things look, just as there are some who play, there are others who come just to watch, they go and have Lunch on the street, and they go back to the court just to see how the others play, and then they play, they talk until other players arrive to play, and they are happy like that , chess is not a game of chance but they make it almost like that, and I find that very interesting because they make it seem that things , whatever they can, first, not get tired, see it as a habit, second, they entertain themselves, those who play the most win money, and fourth of all, they realize and When they see the Final of the game , they win. late that most of them leave and then the next day they arrive very early, just like this experience, they do the same with a casino.

okay, we agree on that, where there are people whose goal is to socialize by looking for new friends to chat with or for other things, and your story is quite reasonable, now where is someone who challenges themselves or others to be successful with In my opinion gambling is very difficult to happen, because the percentage of losses is greater than the percentage of wins, unless they play one on one games like the chess you mentioned, if they play chess and make bets then in this one game it is clear that skill which is needed because the game of chess certainly requires good thinking to be able to win, but with slot gambling it doesn't require good skills because everyone can do it, unlike chess because chess requires good skills, not everyone can do it, and Let me straighten out, someone who is successful by gambling I don't think they should be called an addict, because gambling is based on luck which can happen at any time, for example someone who is gambling for the first time and he has strong luck so that in his first gambling game he wins. A big win can also change their lifestyle and life statistics, this doesn't mean they are addicted to gambling because by just playing one game they have won a big win that can change their life drastically.

there are some people who are like that, they come just to watch and chances are they can also do that because they are interested in the games there and with bets that make them happy if they win, it's a different story if they lose. someone who is easily influenced will easily be attracted to trivial things that they think are fun, such as gambling, by just seeing other people doing it and they themselves think it is fun then it is possible that they will do the same thing as well as gambling, but there are also things that cannot be followed namely luck, where someone is successful with gambling and other people want to do it too but it is unlikely that this can be done because based on the luck they have,  it will definitely be different. if they see other people being successful with gambling then they will gamble and the chances are that they can't  stop because they want to get the same thing, and someone who is successful with gambling should not be seen as an addict, unless they have really spent a lot the money is used for gambling and one day they get  a big win then they can be called an addict.

[temple]

I would still differentiate between a successful player and a lucky one. Luck tends to run out and rarely lasts very long. Usually these are small moments. I would call a successful player a professional who has a clear strategy that allows him to have income over the long term. Of course, luck as an element of this can also affect success, but it is not of paramount importance.

I would call a successful player partially dependent, because success is achieved by working on oneself for a long time, and a professional will not be able to achieve this success if he does not experience passion and interest in the game. Therefore, I would call it a controlled dependence, when it is necessary the switch turns on, and when it is not necessary it turns off, if you understand what I mean.

I don't think that people who are successful in gambling rely on new skills to win. I still consider luck to be an essential factor. I agree that he has a very good skill strategy. He controls himself in gambling.

We cannot call successful people addicts, because sometimes he only plays a few games and he wins big in gambling. Only those who are successful and continuously gamble uncontrollably are considered addicted. But success also makes people forget that he was also addicted to gambling.

I see your point and it is valid for some instances, there are gambler who can play few games with decent bankroll and manage to win huge,
they are just too good, and they've got control over their emotions.

They use that experienced not to fall with greed, they are not addicted as they don't need to stay longer and play more just to satisfy the need of gambling.

Else, they are using that experienced as an edge for their gambling participation and make decent profits.

How many games that are truly categorized as gambling are there that allow you to win big when you can control your emotions? What if I am a dumb fuck, full of emotions and put all my money on a number in roulette and win? All this talk about controlling emotions may apply to some games where skill still plays a role, like in poker, but even there the players with the highest control over their emotions have no long term guarantee to be a winner. The word gambling implies that it is a game of chance. You can slightly increase your chance when you avoid bad moves, irrational moves, but after all it's still whether luck is with you or not.

[maydna]

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Yes, it reminds me of a professional athlete who needs to constantly stay in shape otherwise equally strong players will try to unseat him. Instead of training in the gym, a professional poker player needs training on a poker simulator with a detailed analysis of the hand or with a coach who will share subtle secrets with us. Also, for an athlete, muscle mass is important, while for a poker player, a flexible brain is important.

Yes, what matters to them is not winning in the first place, but how the process of achieving this occurs. This is the key idea. While an ordinary player has only winning in his head, and then everything else, such people will never be able to win.

Yes, that's what someone has to do to become a professional in their field. If a gambler wants to become a professional gambler, he must train his skills well to improve his abilities. And by continuously practicing their skills, they can become professional gamblers. But it can also make aspiring professional gamblers addicted to gambling because if they don't train themselves well, they will just keep practicing it without stopping.

And it wouldn't be worth it if they had succeeded in becoming professional gamblers, but they also became gamblers who were addicted to gambling. So those who want to become professionals must be careful and always pay attention to their self-control so that it doesn't weaken and they can continue to train their abilities.

[hedgeh0g]

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Yes, it reminds me of a professional athlete who needs to constantly stay in shape otherwise equally strong players will try to unseat him. Instead of training in the gym, a professional poker player needs training on a poker simulator with a detailed analysis of the hand or with a coach who will share subtle secrets with us. Also, for an athlete, muscle mass is important, while for a poker player, a flexible brain is important.

Yes, what matters to them is not winning in the first place, but how the process of achieving this occurs. This is the key idea. While an ordinary player has only winning in his head, and then everything else, such people will never be able to win.

Yes, that's what someone has to do to become a professional in their field. If a gambler wants to become a professional gambler, he must train his skills well to improve his abilities. And by continuously practicing their skills, they can become professional gamblers. But it can also make aspiring professional gamblers addicted to gambling because if they don't train themselves well, they will just keep practicing it without stopping.

And it wouldn't be worth it if they had succeeded in becoming professional gamblers, but they also became gamblers who were addicted to gambling. So those who want to become professionals must be careful and always pay attention to their self-control so that it doesn't weaken and they can continue to train their abilities.

This is a very fine line between gambling and addiction for any player, no matter how pro-gamer he is, but that’s why a professional is called such that he can control it. I am sure that there are professionals who, after many years of playing, broke down and fell into the abyss. But if he starts with low limits, then he will be able to rise again if the fall was not fatal and did not cause him severe moral suffering turning into chronic depression.

[Westinhome]

How many games that are truly categorized as gambling are there that allow you to win big when you can control your emotions? What if I am a dumb fuck, full of emotions and put all my money on a number in roulette and win? All this talk about controlling emotions may apply to some games where skill still plays a role, like in poker, but even there the players with the highest control over their emotions have no long term guarantee to be a winner. The word gambling implies that it is a game of chance. You can slightly increase your chance when you avoid bad moves, irrational moves, but after all it's still whether luck is with you or not.

The gambler who had a potential to control the emotions,they he will play the game without any temptation.So this alone give you big win in the gambling site,if you do the meditation.This will help to control the emotions in the gambling site.This seems you never play the gambling game,because the gambler who play the game will know the value of the control of the emotions in the gambling.In my gambling games,I had double the money once.At that time,my full game was played without any care of win or loss in the game.Because the initial money was from the bonus money from the gambling site.

[Accardo]

How many games that are truly categorized as gambling are there that allow you to win big when you can control your emotions? What if I am a dumb fuck, full of emotions and put all my money on a number in roulette and win? All this talk about controlling emotions may apply to some games where skill still plays a role, like in poker, but even there the players with the highest control over their emotions have no long term guarantee to be a winner. The word gambling implies that it is a game of chance. You can slightly increase your chance when you avoid bad moves, irrational moves, but after all it's still whether luck is with you or not.

The gambler who had a potential to control the emotions,they he will play the game without any temptation.So this alone give you big win in the gambling site,if you do the meditation.This will help to control the emotions in the gambling site.This seems you never play the gambling game,because the gambler who play the game will know the value of the control of the emotions in the gambling.In my gambling games,I had double the money once.At that time,my full game was played without any care of win or loss in the game.Because the initial money was from the bonus money from the gambling site.

In that case, the player wouldn't have to bother about his results, if he now gambles with the money he won, and saves his own money for another day. Your actions, Westinhome, are great, but not everyone would be able to focus on the bonus money alone. There are multiple meanings to all gambling strategies, and that's why gamblers need to be psychologically strong. A gambler needs to understand the right time to make any move or apply unique strategies in gambling. The measures talked about in the forum are mainly to restrict or reduce the high rate of addiction circulating among gamblers. The aim isn't about maximizing profits or seeing it as a game of chance for more money. A player who follows strategies like self-control wouldn't win big in gambling in the long run, and at the same time won't go home wearing a frowned face or transferring aggression to his friends or family.

The winning, however, is not guaranteed all the time. A gambler will undergo lots of difficulties, thick and thin, to win big. Hence, while we encourage players to stay clear from addiction or chasing for the money, it's important to note that, it takes time to be in control of games like black roulette. The gambler may have paid some attention to the game and how it works to be able to win big unless he applies random tricks like predicting colors or some range of numbers on the board. I don't doubt the fact that a new player with no prior experience of black roulette can win big on his first day in gambling. Yes, it's possible. Yet it could put him into a fast race of recklessness. Just like most people would say the first win leads to reckless gambling. Such a player with no control, we still fund the house back the same money they just gave him. Neglecting some of the strategies discussed in this board, may not help a gambler who only depends on luck.

[Quidat]

How many games that are truly categorized as gambling are there that allow you to win big when you can control your emotions? What if I am a dumb fuck, full of emotions and put all my money on a number in roulette and win? All this talk about controlling emotions may apply to some games where skill still plays a role, like in poker, but even there the players with the highest control over their emotions have no long term guarantee to be a winner. The word gambling implies that it is a game of chance. You can slightly increase your chance when you avoid bad moves, irrational moves, but after all it's still whether luck is with you or not.

The gambler who had a potential to control the emotions,they he will play the game without any temptation.So this alone give you big win in the gambling site,if you do the meditation.This will help to control the emotions in the gambling site.This seems you never play the gambling game,because the gambler who play the game will know the value of the control of the emotions in the gambling.In my gambling games,I had double the money once.At that time,my full game was played without any care of win or loss in the game.Because the initial money was from the bonus money from the gambling site.

On the time that you had been able to recover up yourself into that temporal addiction specially if its your first time on playing gambling then you would really be able to control yourself again into those next sessions on which i could say that it is really that indeed a good thing but its better to make yourself having in moderation when it comes to playing again because it doesnt mean that you wouldnt be able to get addicted again or having that odds or chance on getting addicted on the time that you do make those active sessions but well it would really be that still depending on you since its our money that we do gamble and not on others. As long you do make yourself that responsible and mindful about your spending then i would say that it is really just that fine but of course
having control would really be always that relevant.

[Docnaster]

Seems contradictory but theres also the possibility of just being lucky.  If continually gambling, never taking cash off the table and hoping for the streak to continue then that could be seen as a problem gambler.  Not knowing or being able to stop at logical points such as being tired or having already done that well that evening would suggest possibly a problem could develop not that it must do so.   Always try to bet less at times, I do know some people only want to bet more which is where it will lead to a problem I think stay regular and stick to some plan dont just react in a moment.

I would still differentiate between a successful player and a lucky one. Luck tends to run out and rarely lasts very long. Usually these are small moments. I would call a successful player a professional who has a clear strategy that allows him to have income over the long term. Of course, luck as an element of this can also affect success, but it is not of paramount importance.

I would call a successful player partially dependent, because success is achieved by working on oneself for a long time, and a professional will not be able to achieve this success if he does not experience passion and interest in the game. Therefore, I would call it a controlled dependence, when it is necessary the switch turns on, and when it is not necessary it turns off, if you understand what I mean.

Actually it seems contradictory but when you examine the matter carefully you will understand that there is not clear distinction between a successful gambler and a lucky gambler. Let come this way, someone who is lucky consistently and his luck is sustained for a long period of time, will we be wrong to call such a person successful?
There's no law that says that before your achievements could be recorded as successful, you must show evidence of experience and working strategies. In gambling, anyone who wins is successful while he who losses is not successful. Let's hold to this premise untill there are other substantial points to counter the obvious.

In gambling, a successful gambler is luck and a lucky gambler should also be successful.

[temple]

How many games that are truly categorized as gambling are there that allow you to win big when you can control your emotions? What if I am a dumb fuck, full of emotions and put all my money on a number in roulette and win? All this talk about controlling emotions may apply to some games where skill still plays a role, like in poker, but even there the players with the highest control over their emotions have no long term guarantee to be a winner. The word gambling implies that it is a game of chance. You can slightly increase your chance when you avoid bad moves, irrational moves, but after all it's still whether luck is with you or not.

The gambler who had a potential to control the emotions,they he will play the game without any temptation.So this alone give you big win in the gambling site,if you do the meditation.This will help to control the emotions in the gambling site.This seems you never play the gambling game,because the gambler who play the game will know the value of the control of the emotions in the gambling.In my gambling games,I had double the money once.At that time,my full game was played without any care of win or loss in the game.Because the initial money was from the bonus money from the gambling site.

So you mean that if someone is able to control emotions, making money from gambling sites is easy. This alone, as you put it, will lead to big wins. Ok, I will just take some medication then that suppresses my emotions, go to a gambling website and become rich? I am sometimes speculating whether you guys are for real with those opinions or whether you did not know what to write next. But when you don't know what to write, why wouldn't you just refraining from writing then? Having control over one's emotions is helpful in probably every area of life, but telling people that it will make you rich if you are only emotionally calm and settled is weird stuff.