Then why not make the topic "How to make bitcoin resilent against attacks"?
Leave the governments out of it, it could just as well be a ISP, bank or other corporation that tries to bring down bitcoin ... or even a group of script kiddies with a botnet / big connection.
IMO, at least for the short term that is a much more realistic threat.
Sure, and I think there are threads with content like that. I was only saying that the reason provided for closing the thread was weak. |
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I'm interested in hearing the problems with this. The current version generates a pool of 100 address, but are these used for receiving change? Maybe there could be an option for generating more than 100 addresses, and also for seeing how many you have left?
Is there some other type of problem I'm overlooking?
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This is brilliant!
In the future, when bock sizes are huge, this will save a lot of bandwidth and storage. Only one "server" node needs the blockchain and the fat bandwidth required to receive the flood of transactions. Many clients can then contribute to bitcoin without the need to pay for all that infrastructure multiple times. This means that small players can stay in the market and kind of solves the whole scaling problem. Awesome!
Oh, I didn't even realize this. But it is correct I think. Only the header needs to be hashed. So this scheme has benefits beyond reducing the variance in generating. Very nice. |
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That's kind of silly. Do some of you think there is a way to take bitcoin down, and that we are going to think of it and do nothing about it, and that 'they' will never think of it? If there are vulnerabilities that anyone can exploit we should talk about them publicly. And even if there is none, we can benefit each other by talking about what they might try.
Obviously we'd be talking about tyrannical governments. Governments loved by their people surely have nothing to fear.
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Repealed or not, if you buy or sell from me I won't report you. I think this should make doing business with me more valuable.
Until you're caught and that forum post is used as evidence of intent, anyway...  Huh, I didn't make that post, I guess it was my brother or someone else... I shouldn't leave this thing logged on all the time I guess. Or maybe the whole account belongs to my husband, er, I mean wife. |
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Ribuk, thank you for explaining again. I get it now. It wasn't sinking in that the miners were working on a block for which they couldn't take the reward, seems obvious now.
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The Remote mining in the official bitcoin release has no "send back" - function but we are searching a pooling-miner like puddinpops.
Is there a particular reason that the pooled miner I created is not sufficient? It has the basics there already. It checks the best hash from each client to make sure the clients are doing the work they say, and it distributes the generated bitcoins based on the calculated hash rate of each connected client. I just updated this thread with the latest source and binaries for pooled mining. Can't they just send all except the winning ones? Maybe I don't understand though. |
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If you download software from people who don't want you to share their stuff, you're supporting them.
How would they know or care or be affected at all? You are supporting yourself when you use what you find. The economic consequence of this usually have an advertising effect for the product and crowd out copyfree people. I suppose so. I guess I actually don't care if the no copy nazis get recognition for their good work. Creators who are better don't get crowded out either. And they even get an advantage from their work being more useful to other creators. |
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If you download software from people who don't want you to share their stuff, you're supporting them.
How would they know or care or be affected at all? You are supporting yourself when you use what you find.
If you don't like the idea of supporting the RIAA and the MPAA, vote with your money by supporting copyfree artists.
Absolutely agree. |
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Repealed or not, if you buy or sell from me I won't report you. I think this should make doing business with me more valuable.
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only if the first wheel wasn't open source  -sharp I think this would make a great film. All sorts of basic things like wheels and fire and refrigeration are patented in some alternate universe and everyone goes about life like this is normal and right. Or a film where a duplication machine is created and a group fights everyone who duplicates stuff they made. |
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I am not sure that it means that kids are hard to teach. There is a dynamic of attention span. The attention span for listening to a lecture is certainly decreasing. This is due to age of media. It is not to be seen as a put down, it is more about the reality of our age.
Yep. Some people would like children to have a nice long attention span so they'll sit still for a 40 year career in a factory. |
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They can shoot me in the head before I'm going to go begging to use something I made.
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Isn't cooperative mining a form of communism ?
Personnaly I gave this a thought and I think it's useless and much harder to do than one might think.
First I thought it was a problem if only a few nodes were capable of mining. Now I don't care anymore. Even if only one was mining all new bitcoins, I wouldn't care much. This node would do all the work recquired, and in the best way. Plus, anyone can take its place if it can hash more.
There is nothing wrong with voluntary communism. Not sure if you were implying that there is or not. I think someone has worked out the details of making it work, but I'm not sure. |
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For any given difficulty level, it doesn't even matter how many other machines are generating.
You are true for long term. But I think many people with poor CPUs simply switch off their minings because they see it will take ages until they receive single bitcoin from that. When you are in cluster of cooperative miners, you will receive small amount (say 0.01 BTC if you contribute 0.02% to cluster performance) but more often. I feel that it may be a motivation for people to not shut down their miners. I think it is extremely important for bitcoin economy to diversify mining across whole network and not leave mining on few lucky guys with fast GPUs. The only thing that counts significantly is the difficulty level and your khash/s.
Of course. The more khash/s in cluster, the more blocks found by cluster and more often payments to cluster members. I like the idea, but your rhetoric is awful. Lucky guys with GPUs? Do you think those are distributed via lottery or something? |
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I'm seriously expecting everyone to.
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Very cool, don't have much time to experiment right now. Sent a small tip though. |
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It is cool indeed. I've been thinking about how this sort of thing is likely to work out, especially since hippich started his site.
It seems to me that prices based on content will not stay up. For example, I pay the fee to get the content, then I make a very similar site, but charge 50% less. Then someone who can host even more efficiently comes along and undercuts me, until we get down to around the cost of hosting.
One solution is to charge a largish one time fee to all users collectively. So Kiba puts out a new sketch and says I want 50BTC for this one, here is the address. Everyone can see how much has been sent to the address and once the full amount is received, the content is free and available to everyone in the world to share with whomever. No threats, no DRM, content creator still gets paid, granted mostly based on the quality of previous work.
Reputation would help a lot with a system like this, but for some things previews would work well too. Anything in a series would be perfect, cartoons, serial dramas, chapters of a book, etc.
So, can you add that to what you have? It seems simple, whatever opens access now can be triggered for everyone once the total sent to the address crosses a threshold.
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@mtgox> Thank you for fixing this. I got my coins. @jgarzik> Thanks for clearing up where this regulation came from. I just assumed that it would be the same 3000/day limit for everybody but I guess FINCEN says different if you are not a MTB. Since you seem satisfied it would be appropriate to modify the title of your thread now. |
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