THe worst part is that these fucking idiots (Betcoin) probably have no idea their site isn't working right now. I've dealt with their support many times and it is abundantly clear that they are all fucking stupid.
example: In an attempt to be more responsive, yet still keep customer support inquires at the site www.betcoin.ag/support we are wondering if this is a complaint or how to respond here? Should we not have thank a poster after a certain time period? May we point out that you are commenting on a post from over 2 months ago as well. |
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15k guaranteed with 5k overlay is nice but does anyone know what the current exchange rate is for tournaments? I'm on mobile.
It looks like WPN tourneys that are in USD are converted in real time each second now.
You cannot be serious. How and why would you ever think that? It's as if you have absolutely no clue whatsoever how Betcoin operates. There is a fixed rate for bitcoin that Betcoin sometimes changes daily. It is also always so much lower than any listed price at any exchange. You are absolutely correct. I had received confirmation that 'it is now in real time.' However after inquiring more today I was told otherwise and that the rate will 'change a lot' or adjusted often. The other day while preev had BTC at $762, betcoins conversion rate was $661. Ouch. |
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People always say this is scam (maybe because you lost why you said that), this is not provably fair, i lost because that site cheated, etc etc without any proofs.
Betcoin does not offer any provably fair games. They used to have one game that was, then it went down for maintenance and never came back. I don't think they are a "scam site", but considering the way they handle issues I do think promoting them is bad for bitcoin: LINKIt's also messed up how rosslin keeps paying obvious account farming spammers: LINK |
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More examples of why Betcoin is known for their level of scumbaggery. I make the following post, which is deleted. https://archive.is/OTE9X Betsoft and Endorphina games would never get approved by any major regulator because they don't meet some of the most basic regulations. (posting rtp, independant reels, flashing higher paying symbols at a higher rate than they actually hit - endorphina double up feature is lolrigged, they show you a card, then let you pick higher/lower or collect - if it weren't rigged you could crush it)
The more legit providers you find on the floor in ac or vegas like netent won't provide for a site that is completely unregulated site or they would lose their license in multiple jurisdictions (like NJ and NV). After support telling me they didn't know why it was being deleted, Andrew told me they couldn't allow it because the software providers might see it.[/quote] I ask support why, they tell me they don't know. I repost it, and it gets deleted a few min later. If my comment were false, they would have happily jumped all over me and proven to the community that I was wrong, just like they did when this guy posted a photoshopped screenshot accusing betcoin of stealing money: https://www.betcoin.ag/betcoin-support-admits-stealing-players-chips-4Eventually Andrew came to chat: Chat started on 16 Jun 2016, 10:13 PM (GMT+0)
(10:13:16) *** Betcoin Andrew joined the chat ***
(10:13:16) *** twitchyseal joined the chat ***
(10:15:47) twitchyseal: hey andrew, you know anything about my vanishing post?
(10:17:21) Betcoin Andrew: Our casino providers do an excellent job and are used by the top online casinos. We cannot have those type of comments about them in the forum as they are constantly reviewing our website.
(10:17:26) *** Betcoin Andrew left the chat ***
(10:17:36) *** twitchyseal has rated the chat Bad ***
(10:17:44) twitchyseal: are you deleting them?
(10:18:16) *** Betcoin Andrew joined the chat ***
(10:18:23) Betcoin Andrew: An intern is. Why post the same thing 10 times?
(10:18:40) twitchyseal: because it kept vanishing and i think its useful info
(10:18:45) twitchyseal: was any of it inaccurate?
(10:18:52) Betcoin Andrew: twitchy your time is valuable man I have been telling you this for over a year.
(10:18:58) twitchyseal: i know
(10:19:03) twitchyseal: im glad you appreciate that
(10:19:19) Betcoin Andrew: You should man.
(10:19:21) twitchyseal: im glad you dont take things personal, im just being honest
(10:19:34) twitchyseal: so is there something false about my statement?
(10:19:40) Betcoin Andrew: It may not be much to you, but posting that 10 times and having it deleted 10 times is a waste of time.
(10:19:47) Betcoin Andrew: Certainly you understand that right?
(10:19:57) twitchyseal: agree, so you won't delete it anymore?
(10:20:09) Betcoin Andrew: Wow
(10:20:20) Betcoin Andrew: Alright I have some work to do. My time is very valuable.
(10:20:25) *** Betcoin Andrew left the chat *** The truth: Betcoin didn't want other players to read my comment about their games and Betsoft/Endorphina don't give a fuck what I say on betcoins forum. Fast forward to earlier today, Betcoin Jessica is in chat with her usual nonsense. I was explaining that I would probably still consider playing at betcoin if they hadn't banned me for most of 5 months while I was owed several bitcoin and told me "If you are banned we owe you nothing". 3:24pmOHYEAH: during ban they told me they owed me nothing since i was banned
3:24pmBetcoin Jessica: This chat. lol
3:24pmBetcoin Jessica: Owing you several bitcoins?
3:25pmOHYEAH: yes jessica, oweing me several bitcoin
3:25pmBetcoin Jessica: Please show us where that is, since you have images of everything.
3:25pmungod: betcoin paid him 3 coins months ago right as he was unbanned
3:25pmBetcoin Jessica: LOl ungod
3:25pmungod: thats the problem around here people commenting on stuff they dont know anything about
3:25pmungod: jessica you probably dont even know what hes talking about, before you start trying to discredit what hes saying
3:26pmBetcoin Jessica: You guys are awesome
3:26pmBetcoin Jessica: Lol
3:26pmBetcoin Jessica: Good luck everyone. I am out again. Notice she left within a minute of asking for screenshots. So I posted them in the forum. They were deleted within minutes. Deleted post: https://archive.is/K0f6FDeleted images: https://i.gyazo.com/195ba474d34e73bfd9ab260403ddd8e3.pngSo I opened a ticket asking why?  Notice how they imply that the 3 bitcoin they owed me was "just rakeback" as if no big deal? These people really just don't get it. (Also lol at manager forgetting he was logged in as Jessica and speaking as if he were Andrew)  |
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In an attempt to be more responsive, yet still keep customer support inquires at the site www.betcoin.ag/support we are wondering if this is a complaint or how to respond here? Should we not have thank a poster after a certain time period? May we point out that you are commenting on a post from over 2 months ago as well. #TBThursday |
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All Fun-casino games are based on "Provably Fair" technology, which guarantees fairness of winning/loss.
^ ^ ^ ^ ^ This is false. Do you understand? ok, remark here "All casino SoftSwiss games are Provably Fair" So let's say it's not 100% decentralized, that would be correct.
Great, we're making progress! I started editing your OP for you, there's still some work to do though: Welcome to Fun-casino, first decentralized Bitcoin casino.Decentralized casinos don't exist.
Casino software works on Blockchain technology, which guarantees its players placing bets, winning, and withdrawing their winnings instantly, staying anonymous within the system. All Fun-casino games are based on "Provably Fair" technology, which guarantees fairness of winning/loss.
Casino offers high-quality games from world-famous game providers: Betsoft gaming, Endorphina, Ezugi, Pocket Dice, SoftSwiss. [/url]The quality and fairness of games are proven by iTech Labs certificate.
Once all Fair games rules observed, Fun-casino guarantees instant withdrawal to its players. If not, player always has a chance to play again following the rules to get their money back.
you are so kind spending your time on this, thank you but still if necessary that can be done by our team itself  Hi, You haven't changed you OP yet. You should do that since it's advertising things about your site which are not true. Right? Hello? Why are you ignoring me? |
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you are either a noob who bought an account and doesnt understand bitcoin
or your satire has gone too far
Give it up Franky, you'd be more than happy with the OP's bizarre nonsense if you thought you could get what you wanted out of it, you're no stranger to twisted logic and non-sequeturs. Your trolling account is deader than the dinosaurs, as is your world view. Posing as a "concerned Bitcoiner" is getting you and your nasty little agenda precisely nowhere, your only friends are your fellow sock puppets. Let it go. You failed. I was anti-OP until I read Frankys comment. Carlton -1 Frankie -0 |
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confirming op has bad reputation made worse by Sig campaign full of farmed/shill accounts.
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hey take my 5 and give it to one of the guys you haven't paid yet asshole
resolve your scam accusations
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Can we all just agree on a date to withdraw our coins to wallets installed on our own computers so they are not on the internet, and flush the blockchains? I personally keep my coins on my laptop almost always in order not to contribute to the blockchain weight.
This could even become a monthly event so the blockchain could never fill up all the way again?
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i think its only your bad luck that you lost 10 in a row in which chance of winning was 97%...but thats questionable 10 in a row where chance of winning is 3%..dont know cant say anything
it's not bad luck. this is fake and cheat provably fair OP please clarify: Are you claiming this site is unprovably unfair, provably unfair or unprovably fair? Is your claim provable; if so please prove. this Crypto-Games.net piece of shit!
provably fair not work and scam!
Or are you just claiming their provably fair system is not provable? |
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At first I believe Bovada only accepted Bitcoin deposits, but recently they also offer withdraws. Intertops took the same approach. Here's what my cashier looks like for Bovada:  I've deposited already (couple times) with Bitcoin though, have you? Thinking maybe you don't get the option until your first btc depo? Many poker players being introduced to bitcoin because of this: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28/internet-poker/bodog-bovada-payout-thread-us-players-do-not-post-bank-names-1553/index928.htmlOther news: NY Senate just approved online gaming legislation - prob wont get it through assembly and signed this year, but the dominos are falling in USA, which is good, but it also makes convincing poker players to come over to the unregulated world more difficult. |
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updated some stuff, will update some more stuff some other time Thanks for putting this list together - I appreciate the hard work!
Here is some feedback:
The Bovada.lv, Bodog and Slots.lv brands require documentation. They accept players all over USA. Bodog is the brand for Canadian customers. Slots.lv does not have poker, and has only slots and table games.
Balances have always been carried in USD. You can deposit with a credit card and payouts were via check, wire, etc... In May 2016, they added BTC deposits and withdrawals.
All withdrawals have an "estimated" approval time of 72 hours. Until approved, balances are left on the site, and are playable funds.
Once approved, Bovada "estimates" you will get BTC in your wallet within 2-6 hours. The withdrawal amount is converted from USD to BTC when the payment transaction is sent to your wallet. Although some withdrawals are completed as quickly as 2-3 days several people had issues in late May 2016, and it took over 20 days to hit wallets.
Emailing or calling regular support staff can be very frustrating as their abilities, responsibility and knowledge are limited. Currently they also have poor knowledge of Bitcoin, the blockchain and how Bitcoin transfers work. I've read "Bank Statements" were asked for a bitcoin withdrawal, and that "typo errors" were made when sending payments. If you have any issues, call and talk to a supervisor or manager. They have the ability to expedite and resolve issues better than general support staff.
Feedback on Betcoin.TM:
I've never seen much action on their Poker. After a few small deposits, I hit big multiple times in a row on their slots several months ago. Had some serious delays in getting my withdrawals processed, but I had several large withdrawals processed. I was informed a security check was pending by the admin. It took a while, and general support's abilities were restricted with what they could do and status updates. It took about 10 days to get the first installment payment, and subsequent withdrawals were quick. I tried some tiny deposits and withdrawals last month, and those seemed to work fine.
Betcoin.TM also keeps pending withdrawals in the players playable funds until they are processed. It requires patience to not play off your pending when casinos keep pending withdrawls in available balance.
Thanks for updates. My wallet on Bodog says 1-15 min withdraw time, do you (or anyone) see that? Not that I would expect it, just curious. |
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After an extensive review and research, Betcoin Poker was able to pinpoint the programming error that caused the rake overcharges from 10/30/15-12/9/15 and is providing refunds to players or a Daily Coin Ticket based on the following criteria. If a player played at Betcoin Poker using the 100% rakeback promo, the player will technically owe funds to Betcoin. Instead of taking these funds from the player account, the player can create a ticket requesting a Daily Coin Ticket in lieu of the account review. Each player requesting a refund of the overcharged rake must create a ticket here: www.betcoin.ag/support. The review of the player account will take up to 10 business days to complete. If the player owes Betcoin funds, the player's account will be deducted those funds, however if the player chooses to accept a ticket in lieu of a review, the player will be awarded the ticket. I don't think I fully understand. Are you saying that you may have accidentally taken too much money from me, but in order to find out whether you did I have to forego a free tournament entry? How am I meant to know whether the value of the proposed bribe is bigger or smaller than the amount you accidentally took from me before you tell me how much you took from me? Couldn't you just tell me how much you took? It shouldn't be too hard to make a list of how much each player is short: Loop over all the hands in the affected period { Calculate the amount of rake taken Subtract the amount of rake that should have been taken Assign the difference to the relevant player totals } If that's too much, could you maybe send me my hand history over the relevant period so I can do the math for myself please? Thanks. Please respond. Poor dooglus ;( |
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!WATCH OUT - BETCOIN.AG IS SCAM! DONT PROMOTE SCAM GUYS!
!ITS NOT GOOD FOR BITCOIN TO HELP BANDITS!
Big accusations like this need extraordinary proof to put someone into a bad light. If you cannot proof what you are saying then this post is pointless. !WATCH OUT - BETCOIN.AG IS SCAM! DONT PROMOTE SCAM GUYS!
!ITS NOT GOOD FOR BITCOIN TO HELP BANDITS!
If you think betcoin.ag is scam men put a make a thread on scam accusation and show some proofs so people can believe what you are saying right here, or maybe your main account is been denied by this campaign that why your making trolls around here to catch some attention. !WATCH OUT - BETCOIN.AG IS SCAM! DONT PROMOTE SCAM GUYS!
!ITS NOT GOOD FOR BITCOIN TO HELP BANDITS!
Do you have any proof? Dont say bad things to something if you cant give any proof. I don't think they are a "scam site", but considering the way they handle issues I do think promoting them is bad for bitcoin: LINKIt's also messed up how rosslin keeps paying obvious account farming spammers: LINK**I am not affiliated with Mr "!WATCH OUT" |
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All Fun-casino games are based on "Provably Fair" technology, which guarantees fairness of winning/loss.
^ ^ ^ ^ ^ This is false. Do you understand? ok, remark here "All casino SoftSwiss games are Provably Fair" So let's say it's not 100% decentralized, that would be correct.
Great, we're making progress! I started editing your OP for you, there's still some work to do though: Welcome to Fun-casino, first decentralized Bitcoin casino.Decentralized casinos don't exist.
Casino software works on Blockchain technology, which guarantees its players placing bets, winning, and withdrawing their winnings instantly, staying anonymous within the system. All Fun-casino games are based on "Provably Fair" technology, which guarantees fairness of winning/loss.
Casino offers high-quality games from world-famous game providers: Betsoft gaming, Endorphina, Ezugi, Pocket Dice, SoftSwiss. [/url]The quality and fairness of games are proven by iTech Labs certificate.
Once all Fair games rules observed, Fun-casino guarantees instant withdrawal to its players. If not, player always has a chance to play again following the rules to get their money back.
you are so kind spending your time on this, thank you but still if necessary that can be done by our team itself Hi, You haven't changed you OP yet. You should do that since it's advertising things about your site which are not true. Right? |
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Nice thread, OP, thanks for taking the time.  Regarding BetDSI - you might wanna strike them off the list. Not offering poker services anymore. Ty and ty. I'm traveling right now, but looks like you're right - betdsi no longer has WPN poker as an option. Will update op |
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hi, if the candidate has red trust because in his first post he ask for loans without collateral, but he is growing now, and learning...
you can accept us???
please check all my info and you can see it..
in a few days my account will be full member, so, you can accept me then???
Greetings
Hello, it all depends on the feedback content and also depends on your rank, post quality and your account history. Come back when you will be a Full member, I will review your account then. Good luck! hello, can I join this signature? I think this is a good signature, so please allow me to join  Hi roslinpl i would like to ask if how to join in your campaign.. I am interested to join
Let me know if i'm accepted or not..
Thank for all of your messages, I reviewed your accounts and sent you a PM. Hello it's me again. I have improved my post quality when I joined Bitbuku's sig campaign. But sadly the campaign is in its final hours because the owner decided to sell his site.
But anyway, I just dropped by to say that I'm interested in joining your sig campaign.
Thanks.
Nice to see you again,
PM sent - please check your inbox.Have a great weekend everyone! Best regards. Hi Ros, Read your message and sent you a reply. Thanks. No shame, huh? Pathetic. |
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RHaver, you're more likely to convince the pope that Jesus never walked on water than convince a riggie like Darkwin your game isn't rigged.
Not difficult to convince me Jesus never walked on water... gl becoming pope |
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Okay guys this has been resolved. Hope the other guys having problems also got their problems sorted out if not I'd suggest you keep contacting them. Keep pressing the live chat and most likely it'll get resolved.
Now you Can Write [resolve] in the OP And in the Subject. [resolved, but still fuck them for stealing from other people] would also work. |
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