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5901  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Dice game strategy? on: February 11, 2017, 07:07:59 AM
honestly i don't have great strategy at dicqe game but in my side use martingale strategy is work fine on me it can give me positive profits although sometimes i get losses witht this strategy but the important thing in the gambling is only big luck although use great strategy it will not work without lucky Smiley
Because not all method will give us the same experience, martingale is a good method especially if you are lucky and you have a good bankroll. It will only be ineffective if you do not have control in yourself and you will rage once you experience a cold streak.

from my experience, when i use the same strategy that my friend give to me, i can not win with easy but my friend is always win. me and my friend trying to use the same amount to playing dice games, but the result is different. but if i am not using any strategy the chances for me to win is increase than if i use the strategy so maybe my luck is work when i am not using strategy.
Maybe you were not execute it with the proper timing, having the same method would not guarantee the same experience. There are a lot of factors to be considered in gambling, it's not the technique on selecting winning bets only but also on how to manage ourselves and our bankroll as well.
5902  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is better? To gamble or to invest? on: February 11, 2017, 05:25:09 AM
Gambling is better, because most of the people here were not much aware of the investment accessibilities available. Same as the form of expecting big invest and earn profit if lucky as they don't go through the growth percentage and all. Gambling as a form of earning gives a very big earning if lucky, so based upon the user its good to make a better decision.
I would say gambling is easier (although there are scams here as well) but investing is better. We mostly do know that eventually gambling won't bring us money but will make us lose and may also make us addicted. Investments are more reliable, I think, because you can choose something popular (a good casino, for example) and at least you will slowly get your money back. Oh, and investment doesn't require your permanent participation in the process, so you are less likely to get addicted to it.
yes gambling is easier no doubt about this but in the sense that we do not need any experience, skill or knowledge in most format of gambling as compare to any kind of trading and investment. but we must also accept the reality that making money from gambling is of the most difficult job as compare to trading and investment because no one can be lucky for every time. and that is the reason that for most of the time we lose money in gambling.
Accepting that reality will make us do a move to minimize our gambling activities, instead we will be more focus on activities that we can generate money easily. Like in trading and investing, we have a bigger chance to be successful in making profit than in gambling, therefore it should not be considered with the same level of treatment, gambling is for our entertainment while investing is for money generating activities.
5903  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Investing in casinos on: February 11, 2017, 05:02:08 AM
I would like to invest in a casino business that gives me dividends, it's the only way to always win on a casino... to invest in a successful one. If someone started a casino of bitcoin in vegas or something, that would be cool and I would visit it too. I think no online casino is offering an investment plan with stocks that pay dividends.
In this case, don't invest in betcoin.ag. They lost 42% within 2 months on Alexa Global Rank! You better run, run, run... Cheesy

How do you determine which casino is successful and which not? In the case of betcoin.ag, you obviously failed...


I guess dice sites are only accepting affordable investments for now, I have no personal issues against betcoin.ag and I have no idea they are accepting investment if not because of you, that needs to be verify yet. Choosing an investment is easy in bitcoin world as we can see some feedback here from those who have tried. Just always remember to invest in a reputable one, do not be greedy with the profit to come fast as it will not happen with investing.
5904  Economy / Speculation / Re: Sell or wait? on: February 10, 2017, 06:45:55 AM
we must learn to read charts the market so that we can read the state of the market preformance near term or long term, from which we could decide to sell or wait, I think this is a matter of satisfaction in doing business if satisfied at that price yes selling if not yes we wait again until the price more

It's not only the chart that is necessary, but you have to determine what is the reason behind the chart movement. This is not a game, bitcoin cannot be predicted if you are basing on the trend, you should be more focus in educating yourself on the recent happenings in relation to bitcoin so you will have  clearer look on the real situation. With this, it will enable you to decide properly.
5905  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling Excuses on: February 10, 2017, 06:22:41 AM
I gamble to solve my financial problems. I don't have the money either don't have jobs, then gambling is the solution that comes to my self when I already know bitcoin.
Strange, never seen this kind before. Most of us gamble to lose our money while you do not to make money and eventually solve your problem. You clearly have a real talent in gambling if you are telling the truth. I believe every gambler wish to have the skills to make easy money in gambling but there are only few people who can do that, if you are one of them, you must be very gifted though.
5906  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: NBA 2K17 CHAMPIONSHIP Discussion on: February 10, 2017, 05:54:24 AM
Im into San Antonio Spurs. They got the best players this. Last season they were struggling due to lack of chemistry. But now im confident to say they are ready for championship title. With younger and stronger players together with veterans. I think they can compete with GS and Cavs at the championships.
They can easily win against the Thunder this season since Durant is not on the team already, they have been losing 2 times already by the Thunder way back, so I guess they will not be having a hard time now. I believe the warriors are not as strong team anymore in the playoffs, the rebounding is the key factor that will help the Spurs beat the spurs. These two are the only legitimate team I see who will face the east champ which obviously the Cavaliers again.
5907  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How did you started to gamble? What was your beginning like? on: February 10, 2017, 05:17:45 AM
Hi guys!
Gambling is nearly as old as the humanity itself. What was your way to start gambling?
How did it go? How long have you been gambling? Have you ever stopped for a while? Do you see any future in gambling?
Let others know and share your stories! Wink

I started gambling because of my curiosity, Because by at time I was looking for amusement in this forum, then suddenly there is a link that I clicked then I never know it was a gambling site, and it get my attention to try it of course I deposited 0.001BTC bet and play, yes it was a dice games.
Gambling was the most popular game way back, we love to play because it is easy and we can cash our easy when lucky. Dice games introduced me to other type of games like roulette, poker, and sports betting. You get curious and you want to try different type of games, and considering it's easy to do it with bitcoin so it gives us a privilege to explore different games and enjoy it at the same time.
5908  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Dice game strategy? on: February 10, 2017, 03:09:24 AM
Am really inspired on how one lucky fellow won over 300BTC using martingale and I think it can work for me...right now am just staking up more btc before I try it out Smiley
He was lucky and had big bankroll to win 300 btc. but unfortunately after a few days he lost his profit and 200 btc of his own. if he'd only stopped after his big win..

That surely got a big bankroll and probably that 200 lose is nothing to them. Look at how he did manage to play with his 300 winnings. I'm thinking that he is a whale that holds thousands of bitcoin and that win and lose is really not a big deal to him. And maybe he is just an psycho path that wants to gamble for his life.
That guys must be really really rich when it comes to bitcoin, reaching a win of 300 bitcoins is a feat for everyone, though we must really think that after getting that profit, he must be really really trying his best to win that much, in gambling, if you try harder, you lose bigger and bigger, so I think he lost maybe double of what he had won.
The thing is, only the winning bets were published by any gambling sites, we might be surprise when we see there are plenty of big losing bets. Let us not be inspired by how this guy won as we cannot reach that amount without risking a big amount.
He is lucky winning 300 BTC but no confirmation by him if he is really up so far, and even so, we cannot verify what is the real status.

What I am trying to say here is let us just play for fun with our budgeted amount.
5909  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling should be considered as a Sickness!! on: February 10, 2017, 02:57:41 AM
Gambling is a sickness for some gamblers but of course not for the all of them. Some people just enjoy the game and never lose to it all they have or even a significant amount for them. I personally know several gamblers, online and irl ones, who are gambling for years not becoming gambling addicts.

Lol gambling is an action for all gamblers, not sickness for some.  Gambling addiction is gambler's sickness if they got an impulse control disorder.  And not all get it because they know how to limit themselves .  So it is wrong to say gamblings as considered sickness because it is the gambling addiction and not gambling itself.
Gambling are addictive but I still believe there are a lot of gamblers who do it in a responsible way. Majority of us loses and that is already given, although we lose, we still have that control inside to limit our loses. If some have ruin their lives because of irresponsible gambling then they are in need of help, it will affect your financial status seriously and you will not gonna appreciate gambling.
5910  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Starting sports betting on: February 10, 2017, 01:56:58 AM
Directbet.eu fanduel fantasy draftkings and more are sportsbetting sites you can visit. I recommend betting on sports you have knowledge in because that can increase your winning ratio
For me I recommend using nitrogen sports, it is the sportsbook I have been using ever since and they have no issues whatsoever and have a good reputation ever since they started. Their site is easy to use, fast and it isn't confusing to navigate. I agree with the point of Lilmon, just bet on games you know and have knowledge about, so you can study you bets.
They have no issues so far and they grade your bet so fast, the same with the withdrawals and support. If you want to have fun, you can use their chat features, I have been using that site for many years already and I have a good amount of referrals and no complaint from the people I referred.
Downside is when you live a lot of odds to choose from, they do not have that kind, and the live betting is not available most of the time.
5911  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: NBA Statistical Methods for Predicting: 113 bets / 55% / 2,3 Av Odd / +29,25u on: February 10, 2017, 01:49:42 AM
Today, we have:
Moneyline:
Cleveland Cavaliers @ 5,30 (risky)
Utah Jazz @ 1,56


Over/Under (odd around 2,00):
Charlotte Hornets - Over 227
Orlando Magic - Under 208
Cleveland Cav - Under 207
Dallas Mavericks - Over 194
Portland - Over 221


Good Luck!
Wow mate, you are get lucky with your selection of cavaliers with that odds. The big three will play, and the closing line just gave 1 point underdog. I am tailing with some of your bets tonight, I like the Dallas Over 194 and Portland over 221 as well. Good luck, hope we got this perfect tonight. Grin
5912  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How do you know when to stop? on: February 09, 2017, 08:44:13 AM
Yes of course I do have a limit and that is 50% of the money that I have sent to the sites.
And if I reach that limit I would just withdraw all of my money and try again tommorow.
Actually there is a better way for that, do not deposit all your money, only those you are supposed to spend. With that kind of practice, you will be tempted in no time, believe me, if one can be tempted to deposit again after a very cold losing streak, there is a big chance you will not gonna withdraw your remaining amount, we know how our emotion will play us sometimes.
5913  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can Bitcoin make Banks disappear? on: February 09, 2017, 08:06:29 AM
Bitcoin can't make bank disappear. Bitcoin and banks are completely different things.

Banks will not be allowed to provide Bitcoin related services unless Bitcoin is centralized and regulated. Bitcoin and banks are not competitors.

Also banks don't need to improve anything to reach Bitcoin and I don't understand why some posters think that Banks are technologically behind of Bitcoin. Internet banking system is well established and more advanced technology compared to Bitcoin. Conversely Bitcoin is new and is subject to be improved until it's established. There is no competition between Banks and Bitcoin as they are really different things. They provide different services to different type user base.
Yeah, Its like saying if there's digital money, will banks still run? Of course banks will still run without a problem. If bitcoins really grows and is adapted by the society at large. Then we might see some banks adopting bitcoins into their system.
Banks want to dominant the financial world and they would not allow bitcoin to rule, the bank will not adopt with the blockchain system as they cannot adopt a decentralized system. Whatever improvement bank will make, the centralization will always considered and shall remain.
5914  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: When do you plan to sell? on: February 09, 2017, 07:22:33 AM
$3000 for the long term in this year


This is going to be long time before it happens but I wanted this to happen but as of now I don't think that it can reach $3,000 easily. I'm planning to sell when the price reaches $2,000 or if there's a fast progress that it can go higher than $3,000 then I'll wait for some more. And also if there are emergencies, then I'll sell.
Like what happen with $1,000, we keep telling that it will not come easy but here we are now, the wait is over and we can sell for a profit already. Believe that we can achieve that, no matter how long we wait as long as we can see the price is going in an upward direction and that will excite us to hold longer. In selling, you have to be specific with the amount, the same goes with buying.
5915  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do small investments make sense? on: February 09, 2017, 07:04:56 AM
When we think about investments we imagine investors with big sums of money, so for btc casino it would be 1 or more btc, for instance. However, the minimum amount you can invest is usually 0.01btc which is only 10$. Do you think such investments are profitable but you earn small sums or maybe they don't make sense at all? Can someone explain it to me?
You will not obtain lots of profits with a small investment but every single additional satoshi counts towards your goals besides you don't have to do anything except depositing your coins in the bankroll of the casino so it is passive income, so in my opinion it is worth it.
Casinos are not good long term investment, and therefore with small amount it is not good if you will are expecting it to grow substantially. Putting your money is very risky as we do not know when are they gonna stop their operation, we have proven in the past that there are casinos who goes scam so we just have to account the possibilities. Having said that, my opinion is, investing in a casino is only for investors who has a decent capital.
5916  Local / Others (Pilipinas) / Re: SHARE NYO NAMAN PINAGKAKAKITAAN NYO on: February 09, 2017, 03:57:02 AM
Para sakin mahina na ako kumita sa bitcoin kaya umaasa nalang ako sa adsense mas madali kasi ang adsense popost kalang tapos hintay mo nalang profit mo bili nadin kayo ng SEO para sa more traffic to come sa website tapos sa youtube mas madali din gawa nalang kayo ng mga kung ano anong mas maganda kapag lyrics sa youtube video Smiley

sa ngayun, isa sa sideline ko ay networking, yung need mo mag invite ng iba tao para mag join din, tapos lahat kayo para kumita need nyo mag maintain ng kota, u yung tinatawag na monthly purchase ng mga product ng kumpanya para tuloy tuloy ang kita mo. like avon, at kung anu anu pang food supplements company.
That's great mate, different type of earning opportunity. You working in networking, I hope you can invite more people, AFAIK, more people are now careful due to some networking that goes scam, they are just tempting people to sign up for the sake of making money in the future but the product is really not effective at all. But anyway, that is your job, as long as you are not focus with one job, we can have what we aim. Bitcoin for me is the only earning I have, I do trading, micro task, and etc.
5917  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling Excuses on: February 09, 2017, 03:11:59 AM
Did you ever gamble with other's money to pay your own debts or otherwise to solve a certain problem through gambling?
No never! i have never borrowed money to gamble nor will ever. it's a bad thing to borrow money for gambling, it's a sign of addiction if one borrows money for gambling. 

Gambling money with own money is risky but to borrow money and then gamble is even more risky. Just think that that you take a loan and lost it in gamble, how will you return that loan ?  Yes there is a possibility that you win with the loan and return easily but why take such a risk ?

You will all be surprised how much people are gambling with borrowed money. Some do get it back and plenty don't. You all can check the lending forum and see for yourselves how much people put "gambling" as their reason for the loan. I don't think it is bad if you just suddenly want to gamble and you borrow money from other people just be sure you pay it back. Not paying back is what is bad.
They are making stupid actions, you cannot be successful in winning gambling using borrowed money. It's not good to feel confident of ourselves that we can win when the reality is we are losing, what makes us lose is very we do not accept defeat and we make a lot of excuses and the moment you borrowed money to gamble, you will be facing a bigger consequences when you lose it.
5918  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it better to save money or invest it? on: February 09, 2017, 02:46:03 AM
What it is better depends on your personal situation if you are young, the younger you start to save and invest the better but when you get older you need to cash out your investments and so saving becomes way more important.
That is correct, savings is very important to us regardless of our age, even kids can start to save so they will grow with discipline on how to manage their own money. A person who knows how to save will not be desperate financial situation in the future, in fact, if you have a good savings, you can start a business for a chance of growing your money.
5919  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][Qtum]UTXO based POS Smart Contract Platform | Crowdsale March 2017 on: February 09, 2017, 02:34:59 AM
This round will be the final round for Qtum signature campaign and Social Media campaign, after all, the campaign which is paid with BTC closed, Qtum will open bounty which pay with Qtum token? I like to know this, earn BTC or earn Qtum token will be the same interesting
I would certainly participate when there is another bounty, I like Qtum as I believe it will be a valuable token. I am already expecting that big investment will come and the project will be successful just like the high funded ICO in the past.
Having a Qtum token is a privilege, I will invest and earn it the same time, it's good that way to increase my holdings.
5920  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do small investments make sense? on: February 08, 2017, 01:04:45 PM
Well for me it totally makes sense since I started in some HYIP and learned through it,
I started investing in small amount and I made some decent amount of money through it.
HYIP's are nothing but a scam. Nobody should be encouraged in taking part in a HYIP. It is probably the worst possible way to invest one's money. Even slots or blackjack can be deemed as a better investment than HYIP. Some people might disagree with me but thats just my opinion.
HYIP's easily attract the user base, but only on experiencing will realize the true nature of HYIP's. Small investments are the one which grows high, but what's been needed is patience. Another thing is that with small amounts as investment we cannot rely for a regular earning. With bitcoin even small investments grow in a short to give a better profit compared to fiat investment.
They attract newbie that has a greed in mind, HYIP offers big rewards with less effort, you just have to put your money then expect for great return. If you are under the situation that you are in desperate need of money, you will easily be attracted with it, they have no heart at all as they take advantage on people's weakness.
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