What's that they say about when the Lord giveths?  Actually, they don't say it; Job said it. "Naked I came from my mother's womb and naked I shall return thither. The Lord gave and the Lord hath taken away. Blessed be the name of the Lord." Edit: The lesson here was that Job did not lose his faith in God and his life ends 140 years later being more prosperous than ever. |
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^^ That only works on imported addresses though.
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I'm always ready to lend a helping hand.   |
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I tried to delete a post for the first time ever. I accidentally deleted the post that followed the one I meant to delete. So, if I deleted your post, there's a 50% chance I'm sorry. #noobmod  Mutiny!!  |
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That was very much on point. He farmed accounts and sold them to signature spammers, but on the outside he's always against spam and supporting our brave forum staff.
Hypocrisy anyone? BadBear was good, but not good enough to stop his little business and ban his ass.
Read again. It's referring to Mr Seller. I don't think an admin would last too long abusing the forum in his spare time. I don't think pixie85 is alluding to Badbear having a side business. The way I read it, Pixie85 is referring to Badbear's inability to ban Quickseller's ass for selling the accounts (presumably for sig wars campaigns and (inadvertently?) causing some of the spam. ...or maybe I am reading yours wrong. Reading again... Ah. You may well be right. I think I'm going to stop reading completely for the rest of the evening. Yeah, too much celebrating over the WO thread re-opening I bet! |
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That was very much on point. He farmed accounts and sold them to signature spammers, but on the outside he's always against spam and supporting our brave forum staff.
Hypocrisy anyone? BadBear was good, but not good enough to stop his little business and ban his ass.
Read again. It's referring to Mr Seller. I don't think an admin would last too long abusing the forum in his spare time. I don't think pixie85 is alluding to Badbear having a side business. The way I read it, Pixie85 is referring to Badbear's inability to ban Quickseller's ass for selling the accounts (presumably for sig wars campaigns and (inadvertently?) causing some of the spam. ...or maybe I am reading yours wrong. Reading again... |
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You can press a button that will make any one person explode. Who would you blow?
That, my friend, is one loaded question. |
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Any Chinese translation guy available please ? Need english to Chinese and the work is quite a lot.
Found a guy for you if you're still looking. It's posted in English in the Local Chinese forum - weird that they do that since probably only Chinese people frequent that section. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=976553.20 |
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How many votes did I get? And what is the topic about again? Something about Jew's and NAZI's and women's rights? I hope you realize you been scammed.. Elian Gonzalez is STILL in the closet! And that is not a shock emoticon but an open mouth. Hey theymos. Can you see the topic about account farming? This place is mostly bots and farmed accounts and other misc crap.. Ever looked in off topic before? You tell me.. Do you like choice A or chose B.? And I am dying to know what your favorite color is.. Do you care? Ahhhhh now I see what WO is.. It is a walled garden where you can escape the rest of the fucked up forum LOL So we're ignoring it? ..sorry then no one told me. You've got an innate ability to cut to the chase in a meandering, humourous style. Thanks for chuckle   |
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The reason the WO thread is interesting is oftentimes because of the "garbage and idiots". The beautiful thing is, you can ignore the "garbage and idiots" that you don't like. There are quite a few users I've ignored specifically because of their posting in the WO thread, but some users who would most likely be moderated more often than not... *ahem r0ach*... are quite entertaining to me.
If this were to be applied in WO thread, it would have to be applied in the rest of the forum. I disagree with your suggestion. Unless there is some technical barrier, I don't see why the "on-topic" rule needs to apply to the entire forum without exception. The WO thread is often interesting because every post isn't about order depth walls on various exchanges (I'd imagine a very low percentage of them are). In fact, observing walls is pretty fucking boring, which is probably why the thread evolved into something else. One man's trash is another man's treasure. EDIT: (lawl) Special Wall Observer rules: bitcointalk.org moderators do not moderate the Wall Observer thread for multi-posting (except obvious spam), trolling, or on-topicness. Do not use this form to report those violations; instead, contact the thread owner. Reports of other rule violations are OK here. I only saw xhomerx10's post because you quoted him, I have him on ignore (possibly due to me ignoring pretty much anyone with a paid sig). The reason I'm pointing that out is because I'm compelled to respond to his post with the following: L2Ignore!
For the record: I have a lot of respect for sidehack and his contributions to the Bitcoin mining community. Mine is not a paid sig. Well... for the record: I did say possibly (I didn't bother to check). I could have also possibly ignored you because you were posting "garbage"or being an "idiot" somewhere, possibly in the WO thread!  Possibly. |
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[blah blah something blah]
...I only saw xhomerx10's post because you quoted him, I have him on ignore (possibly due to me ignoring pretty much anyone with a paid sig). The reason I'm pointing that out is because I'm compelled to respond to his post with the following: L2Ignore!...
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For the record: I have a lot of respect for sidehack and his contributions to the Bitcoin mining community. Mine is not a paid sig. |
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I voted for Lauda.
That was obvious. Well excuse me for being Captain Obvious but somebody asked and it was a good segue into my rant. It was locked because it did not have a moderator at all.
The Wall Observer thread is currently locked because it attracts way more off-topic posts than we want to deal with. Continuing the status quo is therefore not really an option. The thread can continue if the situation is changed in such a way that we don't have to constantly clean up its trash, however.
I will be looking at who voted what, and I might publish it here. Mostly I'm interested in hearing from participants in the Wall Observer thread.
Vote for every option that you consider acceptable.
Yeah. Sure. The admin is helpless when a self-moderated thread's moderator goes AWOL.
I like that when I get a notification of activity in a thread I follow that it will contain something topical and worthy of my time rather than a Nazi woman wearing Bitcoin symbol arm band and sporting flashing green lights for breasts. It's not funny, not entertaining, not offensive to me personally but mainly it's not topical. Then other people want to weigh in on that off-topic post with their own critiques, criticisms, shaming and various other expressions of "free speech" and the thread goes to shit.
Feel free to exercise your free speech by creating a new thread in the society section about whatever the hell you want and then let people decide whether they care to waste their time in there. Perhaps you don't realize the reason the thread was locked in the first place. It's those "free speech" off topic posts that created the censorship - we're still free to make our posts just not in the WO thread because it was "out of control". It became a headache for the administrator of this board; the easiest thing for him to do would be to leave it locked. This should lead any sane individual to realize that the WO thread WAS full of garbage AND idiots.
If you want free speech, put on placard and dance around in the streets - or - if you want free speech in here, open a new thread with your off-topic rants. When I say "you" I'm talking to all those idiots who caused the complaints that led to the WO thread being locked in the first place. This is not the end of the problem; it's a second chance and from what I see in this thread, we may be destined to repeat the same mistake. Free speech doesn't mean you get to say whatever you want and there are no consequences - it only means the government can't penalize you for saying it.
So you want free speech, but you want it controlled? You believe in 'order'. OK, I see. Maybe it was 'full of garbage and idiots', maybe that is an exaggeration. Maybe it was tiresome at times, maybe that disorder was part of its allure. However, candidates displaying a level of utter contempt for the WO by saying it was 'full of garbage AND idiots' are unlikely to find it is the best way to get people to vote for them to be its moderator. No, you don't see. It was 'full of garbage and idiots', it was 'tiresome at times' and 'disorderly' but all of those are simply opinions that vary member to member. The thread was locked because these opinions made it to the eyes of the admin one time too often. A hands off approach by a new moderator will land us in the same boat. Anyway, congratulations to the winner and good luck in your new role! |
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xhomerx10, I saw that link you posted as well as some other negative reviews about BCN before I joined them and upon doing my research for about a week, I came to the conclusion that nothing in those articles were true. This was also confirmed once I was in BCN after a few months and knew in greater detail how they operated. BCN used to point their hash powers to a well-known cloud mining company in the earlier days but since becoming large enough, they now run and managed their own pools with hardware belonging to members. There are also some claims about BCN being a ponzi, which is not true. Only members know better. But you didn't say BCN is a ponzi, so I am going to let it slide. A list of well-known cloud mining companies may be found on this list: https://bitcoinworldwide.com/mining/cloud-mining/On my table of comparisons, I have stated that "mining difficulties change with time, and some variations and range can be expected throughout its course". When we started in January this year and BTC hits its ATH of $1,300, the daily figures fell slightly. When China announced their capital controls shortly after that, we saw as much as twice the number of bitcoin mined each day, although it resumed back to its usual average in the weeks that follow. We know that mining difficulty is constantly increasing, that is a given - but that doesn't mean some miners won't fall out of the race along the way and allow the larger miners a higher portion of the bitcoin released into circulation. We went from obscurity to currently at Top 10 to 15 and have been for over a year now, and hope to achieve Top 3 to 5 by next year. Only time can tell if we will make it. No ROIs are guaranteed and my article made it clear about that. It also stated that you may "feel free to use your own projection in the calculation". The article is also meant to illustrate that when you buy and hold a bitcoin, you never really know when you are going to sell. But when you do, when you feel that the price is right, you no longer hold any bitcoin for future capital appreciation. Compared to mining, whenever you choose to sell your holdings for whatever reason, you will still continue to receive your proceeds from mining, assuming the mining operation is still profitable and sustainable then. If you don't like my figure of 1.2 btc, then just replace it with something lower, like 0.6 or 0.8. Mining does have its advantages, but it does carry some risks as well. And we all know what those risks are...come on, we're talking about cryptocurrencies here. If you want safe, put your money in the bank and just earn 3% interest p.a. Still, I would recommend that people do both buying and holding, and mining, as I concluded in that article. We aren't talking about the option of putting money into a "safe" investment here so patronizing me by telling me to put my money in the bank is unproductive. The thread topic is " Reliable comparison between mining vs. buying and holding" and that's what OP wants to know. You don't give us enough information to do a reliable comparison of the two and neither does your site. In fact, you are misrepresenting what a person can make by purchasing a contract on your cloud mining site. This is why I contradicted you initially - to warn OP away from BCN. There is not enough margin in mining to be able to share the reward in the way your site explains. You have to buy the equipment initially, the equipment becomes obsolete and must be replaced due to difficulty increases, you have to pay for electricity (the cheaper power in Iceland enables slightly longer useful life of the miner), you have to pay referral commissions and you have to pay costs associated with maintaining the site and its staff. Show us your real figures and let us do the proper, reliable comparison for OP. |
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You can't earn 1.2 bitcoins in each of 3 successive years with cloud mining contract - the difficulty increases will make it impossible. If it were so profitable to cloud mine Bitcoin, don't you think EVERYONE would already be doing it? 1000 day contracts are absolutely useless - no miner will last the difficulty changes for that long a period of time and the maintenance fees will eat up your profit long before the 1000 days are up.
Stay away from this huckster OP! He's not being forthright in his claims.
xhomerx10, We are not cloud mining. We have our own mining pool with a constantly expanding hashrate as the crowdfunded community grows daily. Nobody said it would be profitable to cloud mine bitcoin. In fact, nearly all the people we know who tried cloud mining didn't end up being happy at the very end. Contrary to what you have said, there are people in our mining community (and I will say it again - we are not cloud mining) who have mined for more than those 1000 days, as the programme has an automated repurchasing of partial shares in place that keeps the contract perpetual. The decision to increase this repurchase amount from the bitcoin you earn daily is in your control which you may set and change at any time. All members who have mined for more than a year in the past have recovered their initial investments, and are mining on pure profits now. So 1000 days is what you begin with, and as you mine and allow the programme to run its repurchase to pay for electricity, maintenance, and increase of partial shares, your original share of 1 will be replenished after the end of the 1000 days. This effectively keeps the contract perpetual. What is more important is, the repurchase allows funds to be kept aside for the future upgrading of mining hardware the moment the new model of AntMiner is released, without further reinjection of capital from members. This arrangement cannot be underestimated for a long term sustainable mining operation and it's something you don't get mining with your own rig at home. Over the years we have upgraded from the S3 to the S4, S5, S7 and now S9, and have seen other miners around the world come and go on the hashrate distribution chart. BitMain maintains our pools and guarantees us a minimum hashrate in performance, so downtime is not something we worry about. Our mining blocks are available for public viewing at https://blockchain.info/blocks/BitClub%20Network, which is updated every 10 minutes. The 0.1 btc per month are my personal actual mining figures from mining for less than 6 months for one of my accounts. I have a few contracts mining currently. I have just screenshot my pool earnings as of today and attached it here at  . Whether I will continue to receive 0.1 btc per month, you and I don't know. It may be less, it may be more. But based on records of other miners in the community in the past few years, the monthly figures have been consistent even with the ever increasing mining difficulty since Mt Gox. Members earned about 2 to 3 btc per year before the last halving, and in my opinion 1.0 to 1.2 btc per year in the current halving era is quite realistic as my own records show. But there are no guarantees in life. You can only rely on past records, look at current conditions, and make an analysed projection for the future. After all, everything in cryptospace is such - otherwise you and I would have poured our entire life savings into mining or buying bitcoin yesterday. Which I don't. But I do both buying and mining, and place about 3 times in mining than I do in buying and holding. At the end of the day, I can only show you my own figures and relay some facts about our previous records and performance. You will have to do your own research, look at your own risk-aversion, and see if this is for you. Nobody is arm-twisting you to participate. I am only offering an alternative to those who wish to consider mining without all the hassle of own maintenance and downtime, or concerns about upgrading when the time comes. Because you will have to upgrade when that time comes to cope with the mining difficulty, and most miners will have trouble reinvesting funds to replace a large rig or farm. We already have that planned for and funds set aside for that for each and every member. And that is why we have also seen DIY miners who didn't initially believe in our programme eventually quit doing it from home and joining us a year later, precisely for that reason. You ARE cloud mining. You own the equipment, you run the pools, you control the horizontal and you control the vertical - the only way in is by contract. This is the definition of cloud mining. Let me assure you that I know you won't continue to receive your 0.1 Bitcoin per month which means that only you don't know. It will be less and less with nearly each and every difficulty retarget. The difficulty has doubled in the last 180 days so any contract you purchased in January will be producing half what it was at that time already - 180 days in. Let's assume that neither you nor I know whether you will continue to receive 0.1 BTC per month. If that's true, then how can you tell people to invest $3500 (plus $99 membership fee) with you today and they will have 3.6 BTC three years from now which will be worth more than the bitcoins I might have bought earlier in 2017 with that same $3600? Here's a screen cap of BCN's "table" to refresh your memory:  So you and I aren't able to do the math but BCN is capable of doing so? Come on man. You're not only offering an alternative to people who would rather have you do all the work, you are promising greater wealth through mining over buying and holding - which is misleading at best. Here's some interesting research into BCN https://99bitcoins.com/anatomy-bitcoin-scam-bitclub-network-analyzed/ Don't get scammed. |
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The next 12 hours are critical and this is like watching paint dry.
Ok, I have a question... WHO are those that have voted for Lauda? WHY? Do YOU not believe in FREE SPEECH?
I have nothing against Lauda, and his proposal for moderation is perfectly legit but... he/she/it/them has already stated that WO was full of garbage (and idiots) and considers borderline offtopic OPINIONS (such as of r0ach's) as "spam". I won't even mention his * opinion about casual altcoins talk or how * literally said that the best way to help would be entirely deleting the thread.
Is this really what YOU want?
Is it really what you want for your SONS?
THINK OF THE CHILDREN FOR GODS SAKE!!!
image redacted for brevity.
P.S.: Image of happy children of all continents and races inserted for full effect.
I voted for Lauda. It has everything to do with free speech and also everything to do with order. Right now I can't exercise any form of speech in the WO thread because it is locked. The newly elected moderator is the first step to getting the thread unlocked. Also, I like a modicum of order; it makes the topic easier to follow. I like that when I get a notification of activity in a thread I follow that it will contain something topical and worthy of my time rather than a Nazi woman wearing Bitcoin symbol arm band and sporting flashing green lights for breasts. It's not funny, not entertaining, not offensive to me personally but mainly it's not topical. Then other people want to weigh in on that off-topic post with their own critiques, criticisms, shaming and various other expressions of "free speech" and the thread goes to shit. Feel free to exercise your free speech by creating a new thread in the society section about whatever the hell you want and then let people decide whether they care to waste their time in there. Perhaps you don't realize the reason the thread was locked in the first place. It's those "free speech" off topic posts that created the censorship - we're still free to make our posts just not in the WO thread because it was "out of control". It became a headache for the administrator of this board; the easiest thing for him to do would be to leave it locked. This should lead any sane individual to realize that the WO thread WAS full of garbage AND idiots. If you want free speech, put on placard and dance around in the streets - or - if you want free speech in here, open a new thread with your off-topic rants. When I say "you" I'm talking to all those idiots who caused the complaints that led to the WO thread being locked in the first place. This is not the end of the problem; it's a second chance and from what I see in this thread, we may be destined to repeat the same mistake. Free speech doesn't mean you get to say whatever you want and there are no consequences - it only means the government can't penalize you for saying it. |
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Any Chineese translation guy available please ? Need english to Chineese and the work is quite a lot.
I'm available to proof-read your English before it gets translated to Chineese. Free sample of my work: It's spelled C-h-i-n-e-s-e I charge USD$140 per hour and I get two 10 minute breaks every 20 minutes. Deal? |
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