I read somewhere that bitcoin is splitting up in 2 different chains?
Thats why the price is tanking to 50% of its marketcap.
Personally if bitcoin split up it will fail.
Time to get out boys and girls.
It was a fun little experiment.

As an aside, my training in biology suggests this shouldn't be attempted.

What's that they say about when the Lord giveths?  

do you guys know basic mining? Can someone share a knowledge about it?

I tried to delete a post for the first time ever. I accidentally deleted the post that followed the one I meant to delete.
So, if I deleted your post, there's a 50% chance I'm sorry. 

#noobmod

has anyone got some lines on charts i can look at?

Ah. You may well be right. I think I'm going to stop reading completely for the rest of the evening.

Read again. It's referring to Mr Seller. I don't think an admin would last too long abusing the forum in his spare time.

You can press a button that will make any one person explode. Who would you blow?

Any Chinese translation guy available please ? Need english to Chinese and the work is quite a lot.

How many votes did I get?
And what is the topic about again?
Something about Jew's and NAZI's and women's rights?

I hope you realize you been scammed..
Elian Gonzalez is STILL in the closet!  
And that is not a shock emoticon but an open mouth.

Hey theymos.
Can you see the topic about account farming?

This place is mostly bots and farmed accounts and other misc crap..
Ever looked in off topic before?

You tell me..
Do you like choice A or chose B.?
And I am dying to know what your favorite color is..
Do you care?

Ahhhhh now I see what WO is..
It is a walled garden where you can escape the rest of the fucked up forum LOL
So we're ignoring it?
..sorry then no one told me.

Unless there is some technical barrier, I don't see why the "on-topic" rule needs to apply to the entire forum without exception. The WO thread is often interesting because every post isn't about order depth walls on various exchanges (I'd imagine a very low percentage of them are). In fact, observing walls is pretty fucking boring, which is probably why the thread evolved into something else.

One man's trash is another man's treasure.

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Well... for the record: I did say possibly (I didn't bother to check). I could have also possibly ignored you because you were posting "garbage"or being an "idiot" somewhere, possibly in the WO thread!

[blah blah something blah]

...I only saw xhomerx10's post because you quoted him, I have him on ignore (possibly due to me ignoring pretty much anyone with a paid sig). The reason I'm pointing that out is because I'm compelled to respond to his post with the following: L2Ignore!...
[blah blah blah]

That was obvious.

It was locked because it did not have a moderator at all.

The Wall Observer thread is currently locked because it attracts way more off-topic posts than we want to deal with. Continuing the status quo is therefore not really an option. The thread can continue if the situation is changed in such a way that we don't have to constantly clean up its trash, however.

I will be looking at who voted what, and I might publish it here. Mostly I'm interested in hearing from participants in the Wall Observer thread.

Vote for every option that you consider acceptable.

So you want free speech, but you want it controlled? You believe in 'order'.  OK, I see.

Maybe it was 'full of garbage and idiots', maybe that is an exaggeration.  Maybe it was tiresome at times, maybe that disorder was part of its allure. 

However, candidates displaying a level of utter contempt for the WO by saying it was 'full of garbage AND idiots' are unlikely to find it is the best way to get people to vote for them to be its moderator.

xhomerx10,

I saw that link you posted as well as some other negative reviews about BCN before I joined them and upon doing my research for about a week, I came to the conclusion that nothing in those articles were true. This was also confirmed once I was in BCN after a few months and knew in greater detail how they operated. BCN used to point their hash powers to a well-known cloud mining company in the earlier days but since becoming large enough, they now run and managed their own pools with hardware belonging to members. There are also some claims about BCN being a ponzi, which is not true. Only members know better. But you didn't say BCN is a ponzi, so I am going to let it slide.

A list of well-known cloud mining companies may be found on this list: https://bitcoinworldwide.com/mining/cloud-mining/

On my table of comparisons, I have stated that "mining difficulties change with time, and some variations and range can be expected throughout its course". When we started in January this year and BTC hits its ATH of $1,300, the daily figures fell slightly. When China announced their capital controls shortly after that, we saw as much as twice the number of bitcoin mined each day, although it resumed back to its usual average in the weeks that follow.

We know that mining difficulty is constantly increasing, that is a given - but that doesn't mean some miners won't fall out of the race along the way and allow the larger miners a higher portion of the bitcoin released into circulation. We went from obscurity to currently at Top 10 to 15 and have been for over a year now, and hope to achieve Top 3 to 5 by next year. Only time can tell if we will make it. No ROIs are guaranteed and my article made it clear about that. It also stated that you may "feel free to use your own projection in the calculation". The article is also meant to illustrate that when you buy and hold a bitcoin, you never really know when you are going to sell. But when you do, when you feel that the price is right, you no longer hold any bitcoin for future capital appreciation. Compared to mining, whenever you choose to sell your holdings for whatever reason, you will still continue to receive your proceeds from mining, assuming the mining operation is still profitable and sustainable then. If you don't like my figure of 1.2 btc, then just replace it with something lower, like 0.6 or 0.8. Mining does have its advantages, but it does carry some risks as well. And we all know what those risks are...come on, we're talking about cryptocurrencies here. If you want safe, put your money in the bank and just earn 3% interest p.a.

Still, I would recommend that people do both buying and holding, and mining, as I concluded in that article.

xhomerx10,

We are not cloud mining. We have our own mining pool with a constantly expanding hashrate as the crowdfunded community grows daily. Nobody said it would be profitable to cloud mine bitcoin. In fact, nearly all the people we know who tried cloud mining didn't end up being happy at the very end.

Contrary to what you have said, there are people in our mining community (and I will say it again - we are not cloud mining) who have mined for more than those 1000 days, as the programme has an automated repurchasing of partial shares in place that keeps the contract perpetual. The decision to increase this repurchase amount from the bitcoin you earn daily is in your control which you may set and change at any time. All members who have mined for more than a year in the past have recovered their initial investments, and are mining on pure profits now. So 1000 days is what you begin with, and as you mine and allow the programme to run its repurchase to pay for electricity, maintenance, and increase of partial shares, your original share of 1 will be replenished after the end of the 1000 days. This effectively keeps the contract perpetual. What is more important is, the repurchase allows funds to be kept aside for the future upgrading of mining hardware the moment the new model of AntMiner is released, without further reinjection of capital from members. This arrangement cannot be underestimated for a long term sustainable mining operation and it's something you don't get mining with your own rig at home. Over the years we have upgraded from the S3 to the S4, S5, S7 and now S9, and have seen other miners around the world come and go on the hashrate distribution chart. BitMain maintains our pools and guarantees us a minimum hashrate in performance, so downtime is not something we worry about. Our mining blocks are available for public viewing at https://blockchain.info/blocks/BitClub%20Network, which is updated every 10 minutes.

The 0.1 btc per month are my personal actual mining figures from mining for less than 6 months for one of my accounts. I have a few contracts mining currently. I have just screenshot my pool earnings as of today and attached it here at . Whether I will continue to receive 0.1 btc per month, you and I don't know. It may be less, it may be more. But based on records of other miners in the community in the past few years, the monthly figures have been consistent even with the ever increasing mining difficulty since Mt Gox. Members earned about 2 to 3 btc per year before the last halving, and in my opinion 1.0 to 1.2 btc per year in the current halving era is quite realistic as my own records show. But there are no guarantees in life. You can only rely on past records, look at current conditions, and make an analysed projection for the future. After all, everything in cryptospace is such - otherwise you and I would have poured our entire life savings into mining or buying bitcoin yesterday. Which I don't. But I do both buying and mining, and place about 3 times in mining than I do in buying and holding.

At the end of the day, I can only show you my own figures and relay some facts about our previous records and performance. You will have to do your own research, look at your own risk-aversion, and see if this is for you. Nobody is arm-twisting you to participate. I am only offering an alternative to those who wish to consider mining without all the hassle of own maintenance and downtime, or concerns about upgrading when the time comes. Because you will have to upgrade when that time comes to cope with the mining difficulty, and most miners will have trouble reinvesting funds to replace a large rig or farm. We already have that planned for and funds set aside for that for each and every member. And that is why we have also seen DIY miners who didn't initially believe in our programme eventually quit doing it from home and joining us a year later, precisely for that reason.