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5981  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Reddit’s science forum banned climate deniers. on: May 04, 2017, 07:26:37 PM
A lot of research is paid by big companies. We often see the statements of scientists in their interests. Hosts the whole PR of the company in the interests of producers. I don't really trust the conclusions of these scientists. This year in my country, on the contrary colder than usual.

well we believe it or not, climate change is happening and its happening now. if you compare what's going on with the climate from like 30years ago to now, we can't deny that there is a significant change and it turning for the worse. hopefully we can all take this seriously and in time before it's too late

You mean you can't deny there has NOT BEEN ANY SIGNIFICANT CHANGE.

Since 1997, there has been no significant increase in global average surface temperature, and some areas — notably the Northern Hemisphere — have actually cooled. The 2,200-page new Technical Report attributes that to a combination of several factors, including natural variability, reduced heating from the sun and the ocean acting like a “heat sink” to suck up extra warmth in the atmosphere.

http://www.climatedepot.com/2013/10/01/global-temperature-standstill-may-last-30-years-climate-scientist-predicts-prof-anastasios-tsonis-at-the-university-of-wisconsin-milwaukee-i-would-assume-something-like-another-15-years/
5982  Other / Politics & Society / Re: If you believe we should kill all Muslims... on: May 04, 2017, 07:23:09 PM
Before accusing someone of any negative incident you should look into behind cause also, some people want to accuse Islam if terrorism unless consideration of behind activities, ....you should not blame any religion. Every religion show us to the way of beautiful meaning of Life and peace.

If a child of the Christian Jehovah's Witness sect dies because the parents obeyed the teachings of their religion, refusing to allow blood transfusions - then we should blame the religion, because that was it's teaching.

If people die because of teachings of Islam religion sect, why should we NOT blame the religion?

And no, of course it is false that "every religion show us the way of beautiful....<<blah blah blah>>"

Every religion?  Every single one? Come on, be realistic. Look at religions historically. Many have been very bad things. Fortunately most of those, today no longer exist. For example, the Druids. The Aztec and Inca religions.

Finally, how many examples of religions that practiced ritualistic murder or cannibalism would you like?

There's no reason not to be realistic about negative aspects of religions.
5983  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is Israel's current existence ironic? on: May 04, 2017, 04:11:58 PM
It's all the great Britain's fault, they were the ones told Jews to go back to Israel otherwise they were living and were happy spread out in the world.

More than 1 million Jews were living in various Islamic nations such as Egypt, Libya, Iraq, Yemen, Syria, and Morocco until the 1950s. These Jews were expelled by the Muslims, and the Jewish property was seized. Perhaps this is also the fault of Britain?
Honestly say that there is no country in the world where Jews are not persecuted. This is not so pronounced as in Muslim countries, but the latent antisemitism is everywhere. You want to say that this is not Russia?

"Are not" is present tense. There isn't currently persecution of Jews in America or Canada or Australia.

"Persecution" is a big word.

Has there ever been?
Yes, I guess depending on the word "persecution." For example, snotty upper class clubs in the 19th century and to a lesser extent the 20th century might have refused Jews was asked for membership.

But "Persecution" implies an active going after to do harm, where my above example is just a Jew applying to the local golf club, being refused.  Active "persecution," much much less.

May be of interest -

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_the_United_States
5984  Other / Politics & Society / Re: If you believe we should kill all Muslims... on: May 04, 2017, 02:56:46 PM
My reasoning is very simple. I don't want to live near Muslims. Not all of them may be terrorists or terrorist supporters, but the vast majority of the terrorists are Muslims. My logic is that, prevention is better than cure. Why take the risk?

BTW... I don't want to kill any of them, as long as they don't attack me.

I agreed with you, Even I don't want to live  near Muslims too. Though I'm not mad at them I'm not just comfortable to stay in a place which surrounded by muslim people. BUt I don't want to kill muslims, I just want to live normally.

well I think its the way muslims are portrayed in mainstream media today that makes most people this way. i've lived among muslim communities and have talked pretty much eveything with them including religiois differences and not once have I felt hostile reaction. they're just like people from other religions and they also abhorr the things terrorists do in the name of islam.

Could it be that you didn't ask questions that would provoke the hostility?

It's easy to have agreement on ISIS, but what if you try Israel? What about cartoons of Mohammed? How about treatment of women and gays?

5985  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is Israel's current existence ironic? on: May 04, 2017, 02:54:36 PM
It's all the great Britain's fault, they were the ones told Jews to go back to Israel otherwise they were living and were happy spread out in the world.

More than 1 million Jews were living in various Islamic nations such as Egypt, Libya, Iraq, Yemen, Syria, and Morocco until the 1950s. These Jews were expelled by the Muslims, and the Jewish property was seized. Perhaps this is also the fault of Britain?
Honestly say that there is no country in the world where Jews are not persecuted. This is not so pronounced as in Muslim countries, but the latent antisemitism is everywhere. You want to say that this is not Russia?

"Are not" is present tense. There isn't currently persecution of Jews in America or Canada or Australia.

"Persecution" is a big word.
5986  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is Israel's current existence ironic? on: May 04, 2017, 02:11:53 AM
Imagine if Qibla of Muslims were still in Jerusalem, you could imagine what would've happened? in my honest opinion they should evacuate the city and reconstruct the temple with the current technology since they have the money and the means.

It's all the great Britain's fault, they were the ones told Jews to go back to Israel otherwise they were living and were happy spread out in the world.

As God has promised them not to see any good day because of their betrayals, they shall not settle down peacefully and have a land of their own.

You mean it was the UN's fault for having a two thirds majority on the issue, right?
5987  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is Israel's current existence ironic? on: May 03, 2017, 09:47:16 PM
We are now speaking about a place with extreme political correctness (Sweden) instead of one with zero (Israel).

I find it funny that the ones saying we shouldn't be as extreme as Sweden are doing it to defend the other extreme which treats non-Jews as second class citizens or not even citizens at all. I'm pretty sure having institutionalized racism and a self-admitted apartheid state is worse than trying to create the best version of society possible and going overboard a bit.

Wait a minute. If we can't make note of someone's skin color we can make note of them being a Jew?

Thing about political correctness is, there is no one single "correct."

Instead with it emerges a population of PC Opinionators, who wish to tell you what and how to think. And they take marching orders from others, who get word from on high. Thus for you is decided what is "correct."
5988  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is Israel's current existence ironic? on: May 03, 2017, 08:27:59 PM
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In time, as our social technologies continue to develop, we will look back and retroactively identify the true reason for criminality, which is poverty. But as crime is a talking point in American politics, a huge one, the rhetoric has gone dog whistle rather than the overt racism we saw only a few short decades ago. So, much easier to make a skin color, or a culture, a scapegoat.  This is the negative side of populism that comes out EVERY time it's presented. rather than a national pride that goes along with an appreciation for other cultures, it's a xenophobia punctuated with ridicule for certain, target cultures, and a national selfishness; an unwillingness to assist others on a global scale.

Of course, without data on race, we wouldn't know much. We wouldn't know how often blacks murder blacks, blacks murder whites, or whites murder blacks. We wouldn't know if and when cops kill a black kid.

And there'd be no ability to check White, African-American, Asian, Hispanic, Other on government forms.

Please stop lecturing, until those checkboxes on government forms are gone.
5989  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Isn't Islam a religion of hate and violence, not peace and love? on: May 03, 2017, 04:41:26 PM
And then when the country's all Muslim, they start killing each other. Christians has been through this but at a time when WMDs are not available yet and Christian sects have all eventually reformed.

There are a few 100% Muslim countries around the world, such as Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Sudan.etc. All these countries are currently affected by civil war, perhaps with the exception of Saudi Arabia.

Saudi don't yet have a civil war because they are the ones spreading radicalism. They donate a mosque to your area and you know what's coming next.  They've had a few attacks though but those are mostly targeted against the Shia minority there.

This has happened in my area as well. The Muslims in my country were quite normal people a few decades back. They were well integrated to the general population. But everything changed once the Saudi money started flowing.

Seems to be happening in Indonesia right now. What I'm seeing in the news don't seem to be a bad sign. I'm also seeing storm clouds in my country. Would probably fall once they've surpassed our numbers.

And then when the country's all Muslim, they start killing each other. Christians has been through this but at a time when WMDs are not available yet and Christian sects have all eventually reformed.

There are a few 100% Muslim countries around the world, such as Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Sudan.etc. All these countries are currently affected by civil war, perhaps with the exception of Saudi Arabia.

Saudi don't yet have a civil war because they are the ones spreading radicalism. They donate a mosque to your area and you know what's coming next.  They've had a few attacks though but those are mostly targeted against the Shia minority there.

Like many gulf states, they were also quite good at stuffing their people's mouths with oil money to placate them. If that fails, then you go to jail, it's not like anyone or the international community would do anything. Everyone, even America, just turn a blind eye.
All turn a blind eye only because they depend on oil. Now go to the global trends that demand for oil will fall and the price of black gold will decline accordingly. The Americans have caught these trends, and probably is linked to the decision by Trump to sell us oil. Then maybe the conversation will be different.

Sigh, our scientists better hurry to find an oil alternative so the world can shift as soon as possible. Unfortunately it seems that the research are also being funded by oil companies, knowing what they're peddling is non-renewable. Might happen that we'll switch but they're still the ones making money.

In the mean time... I hope Venezuela get its act together. I wouldn't mind buying oil from them even if it'll be a bit more expensive because of transportation cost.

And then when the country's all Muslim, they start killing each other. Christians has been through this but at a time when WMDs are not available yet and Christian sects have all eventually reformed.

There are a few 100% Muslim countries around the world, such as Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Sudan.etc. All these countries are currently affected by civil war, perhaps with the exception of Saudi Arabia.

Saudi don't yet have a civil war because they are the ones spreading radicalism.
They donate a mosque to your area and you know what's coming next.  They've had a few attacks though but those are mostly targeted against the Shia minority there.

Like many gulf states, they were also quite good at stuffing their people's mouths with oil money to placate them. If that fails, then you go to jail, it's not like anyone or the international community would do anything. Everyone, even America, just turn a blind eye.
All turn a blind eye only because they depend on oil. Now go to the global trends that demand for oil will fall and the price of black gold will decline accordingly. The Americans have caught these trends, and probably is linked to the decision by Trump to sell us oil. Then maybe the conversation will be different.

Thank the American Frackers.

I'd correct the above to add Iraq as a major exporter of radical Islamic terrorism.

I was wondering if Iran is as active as KSA in this field. I mean, if not for the nukes, maybe they'd be a better friend than KSA.
Sorry, I meant to say Iran.
But as others have mentioned, it seems to be related to the percentage of Muslims in the population.
When most of the country is Muslim, the country seems to behave very badly, exports and fund terrorism, has atrocious policies towards women, gays and others, including Christians.

5990  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Isn't Islam a religion of hate and violence, not peace and love? on: May 02, 2017, 11:02:47 PM
And then when the country's all Muslim, they start killing each other. Christians has been through this but at a time when WMDs are not available yet and Christian sects have all eventually reformed.

There are a few 100% Muslim countries around the world, such as Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Sudan.etc. All these countries are currently affected by civil war, perhaps with the exception of Saudi Arabia.

Saudi don't yet have a civil war because they are the ones spreading radicalism.
They donate a mosque to your area and you know what's coming next.  They've had a few attacks though but those are mostly targeted against the Shia minority there.

Like many gulf states, they were also quite good at stuffing their people's mouths with oil money to placate them. If that fails, then you go to jail, it's not like anyone or the international community would do anything. Everyone, even America, just turn a blind eye.
All turn a blind eye only because they depend on oil. Now go to the global trends that demand for oil will fall and the price of black gold will decline accordingly. The Americans have caught these trends, and probably is linked to the decision by Trump to sell us oil. Then maybe the conversation will be different.

Thank the American Frackers.

I'd correct the above to add Iraq as a major exporter of radical Islamic terrorism.
5991  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you hate muslems? on: May 02, 2017, 10:59:58 PM
Islam conflicts to much with western society, even the moderate muslims have believes that just don't fit in. I've spoken to many immigrants and the only ones that integrated well in society have all abandoned islam. ....

Any time I meet one that hints of having thrown the old prejudices and hate framework away, I'll buy the beer.
5992  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is Israel's current existence ironic? on: May 02, 2017, 10:57:58 PM
We don't have to stress at all. God's going to destroy every nation and army trying to take Israel away from the Jewish people.  Smiley

Who is stressing?

Anyway, since it was the United Nations that gave the land to Israel, shouldn't the hate of all the haters be directed at the UN?
5993  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you hate muslems? on: May 02, 2017, 07:50:32 PM
Moloch: I generally agree with you, as you don't seem to be a fucking islamophobe like a lot of the people in this thread, but do you mind me asking where you got that graphic? If it's legit I'd love to use it in plenty of arguments in the future.
....fucking islamic extremists caused 3453 deaths since 2000 in the USA, and fucking right wing extremists caused 981 deaths.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/peteraldhous/american-terrorism-by-the-numbers?utm_term=.dnLNzOrV9#.fcVVYjxOd

Obviously the graphic is a lie. "Lying with statistics," whatever. I suspect it's done by counting "incidents" which would put the Latino that threatened you over your dog barking as equal with Bin Laden's mayhem.



5994  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is Israel's current existence ironic? on: May 02, 2017, 01:28:25 AM
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jewish racism against christian in israel is real, it is not a muslim conspiracy.
its a small ultra right minority that is increasing in numbers day by day. shit comes from both sides everywhere...
yet more deflection...
5995  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is Israel's current existence ironic? on: May 01, 2017, 10:11:00 PM
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If you would have bothered to read more than one sentence, you'd know they were close to 10.8% of Palestinian Arabs before getting evicted from their land by the Israelis and becoming refugees. Thank you for demonstrating your ignorance and short attention span.

The positive proof of your Zionism is the use of "Muslim" as a negative connotation and your attempts at associating it with terrorism. Consequently, it's also shown in your belief that because the Christian Palestinians are "1%" now they are worthless people that shouldn't even be mentioned in a discussion of their own history, country, and future. Zionists want to erase Palestinian history and pretend it doesn't exist, it makes them feel better about land theft.

Well written fairy tales from 2000 years ago just confirm it for them 100% that they should not feel bad but in fact should rejoice since they are God's special children. The last part of my sentence is from the fairy tale as I'm sure you'd know.

I am an atheist, you may be interested to know. I have no interest in fairy tales of any flavor.



5996  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is Israel's current existence ironic? on: May 01, 2017, 09:08:22 PM
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3) Nonsense about "their were no people in Palestine pre zionist" or "there were no Palestinians" does not work in favor of that incorporation. It creates a false concept that is harmful not only to Jews but to others. Similarly skewed nonsense like your reference to '400 terrorist bombings' are not wise.

I agree there were people there before Israel. There is a record of Palestinian terrorism toward the British going back to the early 1900s.

Why is it "not wise" to note that the Muslim hero, Yassir Arafat, was a common thug who organized over 400 terrorist bombings?

It's obvious you're a Zionist from your use of the Muslim religion to group Palestinians. Many Palestinians are Christians and they hate Israel just as much.


Baritus is totaly correct on this point.
Here is a a little summary and starting point for research:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_Christians


Yes he is correct, if you consider 1% "many," or if you consider ignoring 1% as positive proof of someone being a Zionist.

Let's consider 1% "very few," shall we? Better, let's just ignore them, and use .... "the Muslim religion to group Palestinians."

lol...now let's get back to the assertion I made which above attempt at deflecting it failed.

Why is it "not wise" to note that the Muslim hero, Yassir Arafat, was a common thug who organized over 400 terrorist bombings?
5997  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Isn't Islam a religion of hate and violence, not peace and love? on: May 01, 2017, 12:01:54 PM
Ive visited in my godfather home last month and talked about this stuff. Some of his friends are muslims but not practicing the idea of " hate and violence ". He explained to me ( I don't quite remember all of his explanation tho' ) that the muslims who practice hate and violence is the extremist muslim groups. Not all muslims are bad, and that applies to every religion.....


THUS 1% OF A COUNTRY IS ON THE FRONT LINES trying to take over the other country.




Every time you write something you make every one reading you losing brain cells.

What you says is not only false, it's a perfect nonsense.
If it was 1% of the population that fought trying to invade another country then there wouldn't have been any invasion in history... Apart maybe when the invaded country is 100 times smaller.

As usual you try to compare things that can't be compared and you fail to use any kind of logic...

I just invite you to pick a war, whatever the war, see the number of soldiers and compare it to the actual population.

Why?

Consider France, invaded by Germany in 1940. Population was 39,000,000.
360,000 dead or wounded and 1,900,000 troops captured.  Total was 2,260,000.

Germany had 3,350,000 troops and 163,000 dead or wounded, IIRC they had about 80 million people in 1940.

5998  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you hate muslems? on: May 01, 2017, 11:34:36 AM
Glad to see that there are at least some people in this thread who realise we are all cut from the same cloth, regardless of religion. I mean seriously, even if you are christian or jewish or whatever, don't you notice the similarities between these religions? They're virtually indistinguishable in their core beliefs. Sad to see that religion is just another avenue for people to express their fear, but I suppose it's always been like that.

Really?
5999  Other / Politics & Society / Re: How the LBRY:// protocol can replace services like Youtube, Spotify, iStockphoto on: May 01, 2017, 01:33:46 AM
Looks cool to me. Are the tokens convertible to bitcoins? This could really change things. Maybe soon I'll be watching vids here rather than on Youtube. There probably wouldn't be annoying ads here.

I like this protocol and intend to study it in depth.
6000  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you hate muslems? on: May 01, 2017, 01:19:16 AM
Intolerance and discrimination against Muslims has become increasingly prevalent in the OSCE region in recent years. The “war on terror”, the global economic crisis, anxieties about national identity and the difficulties in coping with the increasing diversity in many societies have led to a growth in resentment against Muslims and Islam that has sometimes been fuelled by intolerant language in media and political discourse.

As a result, many Muslims experience a range of discrimination, including verbal harassment, hate speech, violent attacks and religious profiling. Many are also confronted with a lack of equal opportunities in employment, housing, health care and education, and face restrictions on the public expression of their religion.

You wouldn't think that over 30,000 Islamic terror attacks world wide since 9/11 might have something to do with this, would you?

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