If you say something to step right in 2140, as calculated by the people here it will take around 120 years to get there.
I would say that at that time you could not see the internet again as it is now, you will go back to the ancient era, where people no longer used the internet, electricity, and the like, You will forget this forum and you will live traditionally/manually with wood fuel, cryptocurrency is a history that you collect at that time.
See you later, if you have a long life to 120 years.
I checked with the Mortals Department. I'm afraid you will only live for another 107 years. |
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One thing we can all be sure is in 2140 we will be using this same simple machines forum and the new forum software will be under rigorous development.
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@Watoshi-Dimobuto, this is gong on for three days now, how hard would it have been to dig up an old address to sign a message?
Trust me, it is harder than I imagined. This is the problem. Either a signed message from the original address or the repayment address is needed. For all you and I know I could be the current owner of Watoshi-Dimobuto.
Yes, I am Lauda. I suppose we are alts now.  |
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@Quickseller you like no other perfectly know that in this forum no one performs any financial transaction without verification, especially with those who woke up after three years.
Just imagine after week or month real watochi comes with sign message and clam that account was hacked , after restoring he ask me to release escrow funds , I will should pay from my own pocket?
If someone thinks otherwise and takes responsibility, I am happy to transfer the funds to another escrow service.
I'm already full of this shit....i just tried to keep the forum away from the scamer.
You should send it to the repayment address I posted in 2016 instead of the address I posted in 2020. If you do that, why would the real me ask to release escrow again? Are you implying my account was already hacked when I posted the repayment address? That is ridiculous. |
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 This is zazarb from bitcointalk. Today is 27/09/ 2016 I confirm that address to escrow 13onqzPnGzazarbReooW4sBkqEgKPoMwZV please send remaining amount what you owe Watoshi-Dimobuto (0,01BTC+tx fee 0.0001) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: Keybase OpenPGP v2.0.58 Comment: https://keybase.io/cryptowsBcBAABCgAGBQJX6mDtAAoJEEesS+GBgNwFyI0H+gPLFNQbfweCrJ0NfauasDOL RSNwWmA4EXjpkRK1VAH3xBTheMmbGyb/H75pbajD5s0yBeWzuVZzhugrZB5Wq1xj xRGwLRksS2KvVLTYdCULGT1cr7Im0dH7h8G27vsKR3qVWwW5qwHX+PZ85Om0sXSa mOjkJfhfXv1818ms2bKfxw817M0ek++Zi7WuOa+JxkJXIug4TbFWmPla9FdDRH+d 6ARAXNmYaZ0hBL8DZlk5jG4tZd16ChlMycYTEtovBJA2GJv6RsiE55ZYPatNFeFQ 0NnnVI4OARm/7JUKcjX79XvKKheyhdiRJQZ/892x/xFlQX46j62ukWPbeyi8KgA= =ARJ3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Please release escrow to 1P6WESDzkd2qZGZNXVP2pM8XiFUuPQnwKk The original terms of the loan were that you would receive payment to 1624xVu7J5nscwYqmuBvhPidjMvBqgoN5H Are you willing/able to receive the payment to that address? If so, that should resolve any issue of the possibility that your account might be hacked. Yes. I am willing to receive payment to 1624xVu7J5nscwYqmuBvhPidjMvBqgoN5H Since you can't sign with this address, how you reach this fund, after I will send it?(address inactive since 2016-02-19) I just want remind that initial reason why gkv9 sent fund to escrow , was that there was a fear that this address might not be used longer. Or you, after a failed attempt to retrieve btc, try to just burn them? Who will compensate loss if it turns out later that you're not real watoshi? Since you can't sign with this address, how you reach this fund, after I will send it? This is false. You can receive bitcoins on addresses you can't sign with. Who will compensate loss if it turns out later that you're not real watoshi?
I gave the repayment address. You will not be held liable. It will not be your fault that I lost the keys to the repayment address I posted. Can we proceed? You always can sign if address under your control(if you have priv key), I understood from your messages, that you can do it, just it is too much work for you. On the other hand, I think, possible prove that you have access to that address without signing. Sending significant amount to that address (an amount greater than escrow hold) or small amount and then resent to your current btc address 1P6WESDzkd2qZGZNXVP2pM8XiFUuPQnwKk At the same time you will confirm that you are the same person who granted the loan in 2016. Are you alright? I am beginning to wonder if it was your account that actually got hacked. |
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 This is zazarb from bitcointalk. Today is 27/09/ 2016 I confirm that address to escrow 13onqzPnGzazarbReooW4sBkqEgKPoMwZV please send remaining amount what you owe Watoshi-Dimobuto (0,01BTC+tx fee 0.0001) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: Keybase OpenPGP v2.0.58 Comment: https://keybase.io/cryptowsBcBAABCgAGBQJX6mDtAAoJEEesS+GBgNwFyI0H+gPLFNQbfweCrJ0NfauasDOL RSNwWmA4EXjpkRK1VAH3xBTheMmbGyb/H75pbajD5s0yBeWzuVZzhugrZB5Wq1xj xRGwLRksS2KvVLTYdCULGT1cr7Im0dH7h8G27vsKR3qVWwW5qwHX+PZ85Om0sXSa mOjkJfhfXv1818ms2bKfxw817M0ek++Zi7WuOa+JxkJXIug4TbFWmPla9FdDRH+d 6ARAXNmYaZ0hBL8DZlk5jG4tZd16ChlMycYTEtovBJA2GJv6RsiE55ZYPatNFeFQ 0NnnVI4OARm/7JUKcjX79XvKKheyhdiRJQZ/892x/xFlQX46j62ukWPbeyi8KgA= =ARJ3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Please release escrow to 1P6WESDzkd2qZGZNXVP2pM8XiFUuPQnwKk The original terms of the loan were that you would receive payment to 1624xVu7J5nscwYqmuBvhPidjMvBqgoN5H Are you willing/able to receive the payment to that address? If so, that should resolve any issue of the possibility that your account might be hacked. Yes. I am willing to receive payment to 1624xVu7J5nscwYqmuBvhPidjMvBqgoN5H Since you can't sign with this address, how you reach this fund, after I will send it?(address inactive since 2016-02-19) I just want remind that initial reason why gkv9 sent fund to escrow , was that there was a fear that this address might not be used longer. Or you, after a failed attempt to retrieve btc, try to just burn them? Who will compensate loss if it turns out later that you're not real watoshi? Since you can't sign with this address, how you reach this fund, after I will send it? This is false. You can receive bitcoins on addresses you can't sign with. Who will compensate loss if it turns out later that you're not real watoshi?
I gave the repayment address. You will not be held liable. It will not be your fault that I lost the keys to the repayment address I posted. Can we proceed? |
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zazarb has refused to release escrow to original repayment address.
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 This is zazarb from bitcointalk. Today is 27/09/ 2016 I confirm that address to escrow 13onqzPnGzazarbReooW4sBkqEgKPoMwZV please send remaining amount what you owe Watoshi-Dimobuto (0,01BTC+tx fee 0.0001) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: Keybase OpenPGP v2.0.58 Comment: https://keybase.io/cryptowsBcBAABCgAGBQJX6mDtAAoJEEesS+GBgNwFyI0H+gPLFNQbfweCrJ0NfauasDOL RSNwWmA4EXjpkRK1VAH3xBTheMmbGyb/H75pbajD5s0yBeWzuVZzhugrZB5Wq1xj xRGwLRksS2KvVLTYdCULGT1cr7Im0dH7h8G27vsKR3qVWwW5qwHX+PZ85Om0sXSa mOjkJfhfXv1818ms2bKfxw817M0ek++Zi7WuOa+JxkJXIug4TbFWmPla9FdDRH+d 6ARAXNmYaZ0hBL8DZlk5jG4tZd16ChlMycYTEtovBJA2GJv6RsiE55ZYPatNFeFQ 0NnnVI4OARm/7JUKcjX79XvKKheyhdiRJQZ/892x/xFlQX46j62ukWPbeyi8KgA= =ARJ3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Please release escrow to 1P6WESDzkd2qZGZNXVP2pM8XiFUuPQnwKk The original terms of the loan were that you would receive payment to 1624xVu7J5nscwYqmuBvhPidjMvBqgoN5H Are you willing/able to receive the payment to that address? If so, that should resolve any issue of the possibility that your account might be hacked. Yes. I am willing to receive payment to 1624xVu7J5nscwYqmuBvhPidjMvBqgoN5H Since you can't sign with this address, how you reach this fund, after I will send it?(address inactive since 2016-02-19) I just want remind that initial reason why gkv9 sent fund to escrow , was that there was a fear that this address might not be used longer. Or you, after a failed attempt to retrieve btc, try to just burn them? Who will compensate loss if it turns out later that you're not real watoshi? I didn't see this coming  |
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Easy. Do it without mask.
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1. Massive Printing of Fiat Currency. 2. Financial crisis, huge volatility and uncertainty in stock and other markets. Definitely not my dream scenario  |
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QS, can you give an honest opinion on zazarb's conduct as escrow?
I don’t think it is unreasonable to confirm he is releasing the money to the correct person, given the circumstances. The question shouldn’t have been to prove you are the original owner of the account but rather that you are the same person who gave the loan. IMO it is unreasonable for $95. My PGP key is not linked to bitcointalk account and my address is not staked in https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=996318.0. It is practically difficult for me right now to access the wallet I think I was using in 2016. I might be able to sign some other addresses if I spend a day or two on it. Would you spend a day or two for $95? I would not move the bitcoin to a different address, unless there was a security reason to do so (or if it was done in error and was quickly moved back). I would also not commingle bitcoin held in escrow with my own personal bitcoin unless there is an agreement explicitly allowing this (commingling escrow money is akin to taking an unauthorized loan). Some people might disagree with me on these points. Exactly. I don't understand how this is tolerated. I have never transacted with this kind of escrow before. I don’t think there is any basis for charging penalty interest to the escrow agent for delaying the disbursement. I consider it an unauthorized loan. IMO he should pay a reasonable interest. Escrow agents shouldn't get away with taking interest-free collateral-free unauthorized loans from escrowed funds. He doesn't have to pay the interest to me. He can donate it to the forum.
I always considered LaudaM a trustworthy person. Now I see he only wants to punish someone for what someone else did and call it justice.
You are not the original owner of the account and that is that. I am the owner of this account. I did not create the account. It is the truth. At present this account has nothing to do with the defaulter or anyone else. I don't see how the fact that I did not create this account offends you. Mind sharing with us why in particular you have come back now? What are the plans? I haven't. I will leave for another long period of inactivity soon. Now that you have agreed to receive the payment to the original address you were scheduled to receive payment to, I believe it would be inappropriate to continue to withhold/delay releasing the bitcoin held in escrow.
Not if the account is compromised and the current user is not the same as the one who made the loan. Quick and dirty wait to clean the account would be doing the above. Not sure if you are trying to achieve anything here. I don't care about your negative feedback. You can leave a few more if you like. I wanted to clear up that I didn't default the loan and I don't deserve the negative feedback. While I was in control of this account, I didn't scam, spam or farm accounts. [moderator's note: consecutive posts merged] |
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I agree. The funds can be sent to repayment address. What does Watoshi's loan default 5 years ago have to do with zazarb? How does it concern you? Are you zazarb?
Quite childish question and sorry to say that it's not unexpected from a new owner of this account. I wanna let you know that its not only a matter of concern for Lauda but also for the entire forum community. You are holding the new ownership of an account which was tagged due to default on a loan and asking question whats wrong here! Huh . QS, can you give an honest opinion on zazarb's conduct as escrow?
What does Watoshi's loan default 5 years ago have to do with zazarb? How does it concern you? Are you zazarb?
Quite childish question and sorry to say that it's not unexpected from a new owner of this account. I wanna let you know that its not only a matter of concern for Lauda but also for the entire forum community. You are holding the new ownership of an account which was tagged due to default on a loan and asking question whats wrong here! Huh . The opening post is about two separate incidents. What is the matter of concern? I didn't hack into this account and I knew of Watoshi's default only when I saw shorena's trust feedback. [moderator's note: consecutive posts merged] |
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Forget a bank, I consider you less trustworthy than the gkv9. Do banks ask you to produce the credit card you used in 1990 to give you your $100?
They might ask you questions about credit you took out years ago  The only condition I have is when you use my money, you pay interest.
Since you're so stuck up about agreements, let's see the agreement where zarzab agreed to pay 20% compounding interest upon moving the amount. I don't think it's unreasonable to move funds, especially since there was no longer any need to monitor the balance (I think the intention was so that anyone could see the progress of the loan being repaid) after the loan was repaid and everyone that was present was satisfied. I can answer questions. It is unreasonable. The escrow did not move the 0.01 BTC to another address. I think he used the funds for his lending business. |
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 This is zazarb from bitcointalk. Today is 27/09/ 2016 I confirm that address to escrow 13onqzPnGzazarbReooW4sBkqEgKPoMwZV please send remaining amount what you owe Watoshi-Dimobuto (0,01BTC+tx fee 0.0001) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: Keybase OpenPGP v2.0.58 Comment: https://keybase.io/cryptowsBcBAABCgAGBQJX6mDtAAoJEEesS+GBgNwFyI0H+gPLFNQbfweCrJ0NfauasDOL RSNwWmA4EXjpkRK1VAH3xBTheMmbGyb/H75pbajD5s0yBeWzuVZzhugrZB5Wq1xj xRGwLRksS2KvVLTYdCULGT1cr7Im0dH7h8G27vsKR3qVWwW5qwHX+PZ85Om0sXSa mOjkJfhfXv1818ms2bKfxw817M0ek++Zi7WuOa+JxkJXIug4TbFWmPla9FdDRH+d 6ARAXNmYaZ0hBL8DZlk5jG4tZd16ChlMycYTEtovBJA2GJv6RsiE55ZYPatNFeFQ 0NnnVI4OARm/7JUKcjX79XvKKheyhdiRJQZ/892x/xFlQX46j62ukWPbeyi8KgA= =ARJ3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Please release escrow to 1P6WESDzkd2qZGZNXVP2pM8XiFUuPQnwKk The original terms of the loan were that you would receive payment to 1624xVu7J5nscwYqmuBvhPidjMvBqgoN5H Are you willing/able to receive the payment to that address? If so, that should resolve any issue of the possibility that your account might be hacked. Yes. I am willing to receive payment to 1624xVu7J5nscwYqmuBvhPidjMvBqgoN5H |
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When it comes to parting with my money, you act like a professional escrow. Why don't you first send the funds you stole back to the escrow address? Hey guys, I would like to update you that I recently got a message from manager that I got paid currently...  I am extremely happy that now I will be able to put the amount in Zazarb's escrow service to prove myself innocent... if you want I can escrow this, but it is not guaranteed that people who have left you negative trust, will remove it.
(I will send confirmation to blazr and QS)
escrow address if you want monitoring 13onqzPnGzazarbReooW4sBkqEgKPoMwZV (you should send full amount +tx fee)
Can you please confirm that the above mentioned address with monitoring is still on??? I will then send the amount... Also, I would like to let you know that only BTC0.01 is remaining, so please let me know that exactly how much should I send you to that address??? -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 This is zazarb from bitcointalk. Today is 27/09/ 2016 I confirm that address to escrow 13onqzPnGzazarbReooW4sBkqEgKPoMwZV please send remaining amount what you owe Watoshi-Dimobuto (0,01BTC+tx fee 0.0001) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: Keybase OpenPGP v2.0.58 Comment: https://keybase.io/cryptowsBcBAABCgAGBQJX6mDtAAoJEEesS+GBgNwFyI0H+gPLFNQbfweCrJ0NfauasDOL RSNwWmA4EXjpkRK1VAH3xBTheMmbGyb/H75pbajD5s0yBeWzuVZzhugrZB5Wq1xj xRGwLRksS2KvVLTYdCULGT1cr7Im0dH7h8G27vsKR3qVWwW5qwHX+PZ85Om0sXSa mOjkJfhfXv1818ms2bKfxw817M0ek++Zi7WuOa+JxkJXIug4TbFWmPla9FdDRH+d 6ARAXNmYaZ0hBL8DZlk5jG4tZd16ChlMycYTEtovBJA2GJv6RsiE55ZYPatNFeFQ 0NnnVI4OARm/7JUKcjX79XvKKheyhdiRJQZ/892x/xFlQX46j62ukWPbeyi8KgA= =ARJ3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
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I always considered LaudaM a trustworthy person. Now I see he only wants to punish someone for what someone else did and call it justice. I stand by the fact that the loan defaulter you talk about sold this account to the lender after defaulting the loan (this should be no surprise). Over the years I used this account, I never scammed or defaulted on any loans. In fact, I don't remember taking any loans. The very reason I did not sell the account in 2016 when I went for the long period of inactivity was because I discourage buying and selling accounts. This account had only positive untrusted feedback when I left and buyers could use it to run scams and ICOs. I had offers to buy the account in PM. I turned them down. I want the 0.01 BTC from gkv9 out of zazarb's escrow. How hard is to donate 0.01 BTC to https://www.savethechildren.org/?Did you know that it actually takes more time to make this thread than do as I suggested in the past PM? Do you really make new threads for all private messages you get?
What does Watoshi's loan default 5 years ago have to do with zazarb? How does it concern you? Are you zazarb? [moderator's note: consecutive posts merged] |
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Do you insist on a signed message before you repay the 0.01BTC loan?
How many times do i have to repeat this?! You waste my time also. It is on you. Why do you want me to waste hours for $95? Give me an answer. Do you insist on a signed message? Why won't you just send it to https://files.savethechildren.org/cryptocurrency-donation/ and end this? Are you broke? |
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Do you insist on a signed message before you repay the 0.01BTC loan?
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P.S. When you go to bank to withdraw money, you prove identity or bank prove that have your money!?
Forget a bank, I consider you less trustworthy than the gkv9. Do banks ask you to produce the credit card you used in 1990 to give you your $100? You will have to release more than 0.01 BTC for wasting my time. I sent you a PM. I have spent 3 hours so far. |
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If you don't release escrow soon, I will assume that you require me to spend my time recovering addresses I used 3 and 4 years ago and once I prove I lend OP, you will release escrow of 0.01BTC and interest of 8.4956BTC to 1P6WESDzkd2qZGZNXVP2pM8XiFUuPQnwKk.
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