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61  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] Bitcoin Growth Bot, Lending Platform​ 2.0​ [DECEMBER TOKEN SALE] on: December 05, 2017, 03:18:50 PM


"bitcoingrowthbot.io receives about 4,305 unique visitors per day"


This is not bad considering its preico stage


Ii there a plan to rename the site to Nucleuscoin.io or something similar to avoid confusion, having 2 names weakens the brand. You can still call the bot bitcoin growth bot but now this is all about Nucleus coin.




Great idea. Excellent point. Are there any other idea besides Nucleuscoin.io?


62  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] Bitcoin Growth Bot, Lending Platform​ 2.0​ [DECEMBER TOKEN SALE] on: December 05, 2017, 01:45:21 AM

Are you talking of dropping the overall number down to roughly 19 million by burning those 4.9 for the ICO scheduled for January?  Thats what a 20% reduction in overall supply... that would be great for long term value as well.



Yes, that is the right thing to do for the project and everyone who has participated. It will be great for long term value.



63  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] Bitcoin Growth Bot, Lending Platform​ 2.0​ [DECEMBER TOKEN SALE] on: December 04, 2017, 08:04:20 PM


Scrap ICO altogether, 3 m sold NCL is enough to get this going, low cap lending platform is way to go


Nucleus has the most realistic returns, kick start marketing campaign as soon as bot is ready

Scrapping it altogether will also mean members from the US can then purchase these coins "legally" and promotion on social media will be much stronger as well.  Most of the YouTube channels from the US with large followings were shying away from promotions due to the SEC "guidance" on ICOs.  I'm sure most of them have purchased from DEX by still do not want to be in the spotlight until this ICO tag is off the token.  I see a steady increase in traffic and interest once this has been lifted.  Maybe its just me, what are your thoughts on that?


I agree completely. Wrote Waves support a ticket to see if Tokens can be burned in case the ICO is scrapped.


64  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] Bitcoin Growth Bot, Lending Platform​ 2.0​ [DECEMBER TOKEN SALE] on: December 04, 2017, 03:57:16 PM
I want to thank Jordan for the great work so far.

I have received all my reserved tokens and also my referral bonus tokens.

I do understand it is a lot of work to go through all the emails and transaction ID's so do know we appreciate all the effort.

Looking forward for this part of the project to be done so we can really start having fun!



Same here! It is necessary for the project but I am ready to move forward to building the platform now!

Once the pre-sale is over the bot will be launched ahead of schedule. And then the back end completed.

With a real transparent trading bot and working back end the hype around Bitcoin Growth Bot and Nucleus is going to be massive!

We may have to cancel the ICO if Nucleus starts mooning to prevent having a ceiling of $3.60 on the price.

Enough funds have been raised already that this project will thrive.

Only 71,133 Nucleus tokens left in the 2nd round!
https://www.bitcoingrowthbot.io



65  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] Bitcoin Growth Bot, Lending Platform​ 2.0​ [DECEMBER TOKEN SALE] on: December 04, 2017, 03:40:55 AM
Where are my free tokens?


Please read the thread. Bonus tokens are not distributed until the pre-sale closes.


66  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] Bitcoin Growth Bot, Lending Platform​ 2.0​ [DECEMBER TOKEN SALE] on: December 03, 2017, 09:38:00 PM
So...
I was among the first ones to apply for the limited offer, a 200 NCL + bonus. The 25th of Nov
I sent BTC to the deposit address, E-mailed them the details, Tx id & Waves wallet address as required
Looks like people already received their NCL, while I didn't receive the tokens nor the BTC refund! Without mentioning the referrals...
Please I don't need to hear all the "you got scammed...blablabla" I'm aware of the risksThe reason I'm posting this:
1. For other people to see; if this is NOT just a mistake or delay I consider this a red flag for what's coming next "and I admit I gambled and lost"
2. If they're still processing the payments & I have just to wait a little bit more, I want the dev to respond to this message here, and clarify the situation
Literally hundreds upon hundreds of payments were processed yesterday. This morning there is another inbox full and will take another 9 hours to clear but yesterday everyone who had sent in their info had been processed by the time I went to sleep-
Email your info to Token Sale <tokensale@bitcoingrowthbot.io> and it will be processed right away. If you already have sent your info it is possible it got buried. Please resend it and I will take care of it for you. I appreciate it.


Problem solved within minutes after ID verification,
For some reason my secondary email provider never diverted emails from Bitcoingrowthbot to my main email! I never encountered such a thing before!

Total tokens received: The package I paid for + signup bonus + referral bonus
Hope that I've done my job now clearing up the confusion I created previously

Thank you afrazium Smiley

So...
I was among the first ones to apply for the limited offer, a 200 NCL + bonus. The 25th of Nov
I sent BTC to the deposit address, E-mailed them the details, Tx id & Waves wallet address as required
Looks like people already received their NCL, while I didn't receive the tokens nor the BTC refund! Without mentioning the referrals...

Please I don't need to hear all the "you got scammed...blablabla" I'm aware of the risks
The reason I'm posting this:
1. For other people to see; if this is NOT just a mistake or delay I consider this a red flag for what's coming next "and I admit I gambled and lost"
2. If they're still processing the payments & I have just to wait a little bit more, I want the dev to respond to this message here, and clarify the situation

Literally hundreds upon hundreds of payments were processed yesterday. This morning there is another inbox full and will take another 9 hours to clear but yesterday everyone who had sent in their info had been processed by the time I went to sleep-

Email your info to Token Sale <tokensale@bitcoingrowthbot.io> and it will be processed right away. If you already have sent your info it is possible it got buried. Please resend it and I will take care of it for you. I appreciate it.




I don't really get it, it's written nowhere that we need to send an email after we purchased NCL on Waves. Could you make a step-by-step tutorial what to do after buying NCL on Waves?


If you purchased in the pre-sale on Waves DEX there is nothing else to do. If you purchases reserved tokens you have been emailed what to do.

Once the pre-sale is complete everyone will be notified on how to claim there sign up and referral bonuses.


67  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] Bitcoin Growth Bot, Lending Platform​ 2.0​ [DECEMBER TOKEN SALE] on: December 03, 2017, 04:05:00 PM
Ok so i emailed transaction ID over and screen shot of info.

I wasnt even aware this had to be done . where does it say that?

I think this needs a telegram group thats isn't just ANNOUNCEMENTS.

takes a long time to get answers...


To be fair everyone has received answers within a very timely manner. It is simply not possible to expect to receive answers instantly but within 24 hours is very fair. I am sure you have been part of ICOs were you don't receive answers at all. This experience has been much different for everyone.

I am unable to monitor a telegram group. Any volunteers?

I love advice and tips from all of you because outside insight is beneficial to the project. Thank you

68  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] Bitcoin Growth Bot, Lending Platform​ 2.0​ [DECEMBER TOKEN SALE] on: December 03, 2017, 03:35:54 PM
So...
I was among the first ones to apply for the limited offer, a 200 NCL + bonus. The 25th of Nov
I sent BTC to the deposit address, E-mailed them the details, Tx id & Waves wallet address as required
Looks like people already received their NCL, while I didn't receive the tokens nor the BTC refund! Without mentioning the referrals...

Please I don't need to hear all the "you got scammed...blablabla" I'm aware of the risks
The reason I'm posting this:
1. For other people to see; if this is NOT just a mistake or delay I consider this a red flag for what's coming next "and I admit I gambled and lost"
2. If they're still processing the payments & I have just to wait a little bit more, I want the dev to respond to this message here, and clarify the situation

Literally hundreds upon hundreds of payments were processed yesterday. This morning there is another inbox full and will take another 9 hours to clear but yesterday everyone who had sent in their info had been processed by the time I went to sleep-

Email your info to Token Sale <tokensale@bitcoingrowthbot.io> and it will be processed right away. If you already have sent your info it is possible it got buried. Please resend it and I will take care of it for you. I appreciate it.



69  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] Bitcoin Growth Bot, Lending Platform​ 2.0​ [DECEMBER TOKEN SALE] on: December 03, 2017, 03:31:28 PM
ok not sure if my referalls spent that much but where are MY 20 bonus tokens then for buying 500 NCL?
DID you get yours automatically on DEX?

First, those that had reserved tokens prior to the sale have been receiving their reserved tokens, sign up bonuses and any referral bonuses.

It takes a little while to confirm tx id and process transactions. Everyone so far who has sent in their tx id and Waves address has been credited.

After all of those who have reserved tokens are clear I will move onto the the sign up and referral bonuses for everyone else.

Those were not to be distributed until after the close of the pre-sale which is currently going on. Please be patient.


70  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] Bitcoin Growth Bot, Lending Platform​ 2.0​ [DECEMBER TOKEN SALE] on: December 02, 2017, 09:38:09 PM
Follow instruction here

https://www.bitcoingrowthbot.io/faqs/

If you are using firefox quantum DEX is very slow like 20+ seconds for orders too appear plus theres upgrade going on.

thats why you get the "some orders will appear soon"

It took me over 1 hour just to buy some NCL yesterday

Try chrome much faster

I don't get it, what the hell am I doing wrong? I always get: "Order has not been created"!




You simply need enough Waves (0.003) to cover the transaction fee.


I have more than enough waves to cover the fee, check it out:


You are right, strange. Write a ticket to Waves support, http://support.wavesplatform.com/

They responded normally within ten minutes and will help you solve this.


71  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] Bitcoin Growth Bot, Lending Platform​ 2.0​ [DECEMBER TOKEN SALE] on: December 02, 2017, 09:00:49 PM
Follow instruction here

https://www.bitcoingrowthbot.io/faqs/

If you are using firefox quantum DEX is very slow like 20+ seconds for orders too appear plus theres upgrade going on.

thats why you get the "some orders will appear soon"

It took me over 1 hour just to buy some NCL yesterday

Try chrome much faster

I don't get it, what the hell am I doing wrong? I always get: "Order has not been created"!


You simply need enough Waves (0.003) to cover the transaction fee.

72  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] Bitcoin Growth Bot, Lending Platform​ 2.0​ [DECEMBER TOKEN SALE] on: December 02, 2017, 07:41:57 PM
Still awaiting on my tokens. Not a good way to treat early investors who believe and help this project. Starting to believe that we've been scammed.

What is wrong chicken little? Screaming scam scam the sky is falling. Everyone is receiving their tokens. It takes a little bit of time to verify TX ID and process. Be patient.

It is ridiculous to believe this is a scam. This other guy on this thread tried to get me to send him 1 BTC or threatening to call it a scam. He has been yelling in large red letters ever since but he looks foolish https://s18.postimg.org/k6ms3i2pl/Screen_Shot_2017-11-30_at_8.06.41_AM.png

You are in good company.

Everything has proven otherwise and in the end you are going to look like a fool. There is so much wealth to be created through this project why on earth would anyone think it is a scam?

This project is ahead of schedule and will come to fruition and the fruits will be the appreciation of Nucleus. My tokens are locked up for a year. You better believe they are going to be worth triple digits next year. I have everything to gain though building the best and first transparent lending platform.

A scam? Please. Think big, build and create.

You sold your tokens Smiley

That was pretty silly.


PS - Reserve tokens were not supposed to be sent until after the close of the pre-sale. I am trying to go above and beyond and provide them right away. Please be patient.






73  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] Bitcoin Growth Bot, Lending Platform​ 2.0​ [DECEMBER TOKEN SALE] on: December 01, 2017, 05:12:32 PM
Heartiest Congratulations BITCOIN GROWTH BOT for accomplishing a major leap towards your vision. First Million tokens sold like Hot Cake in 6 minutes. It seems you have now saved 20 days of your envisaged Road-Map. Waiting for your next step - Launch of the BOT.



1m in 6min??


When we gonna receive token we purchased before for $100/250?

Going to send out information today to everyone who purchased reserved tokens to get them to you right away.

Pre-sale still going very strong, huge success!

Time to keep moving forward and first task is issuing reserved tokens and then bonus tokens for sign ups and referrals.
74  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] Bitcoin Growth Bot, Lending Platform​ 2.0​ [DECEMBER TOKEN SALE] on: November 30, 2017, 10:53:00 PM
Question bout the Waves platform. If I go right now and make buy (pre)order for Nucleus token for $0.65 equivalent of BTC (just to be sure because of volatility), it gets filled @ $0.55/token once you release those first 1 million tokens, right (given that BTC value doesn't drop like 20% over night)?

When bonus tokens are released?

Nucleus (NCL) orders are in BTC, ETH, LTC, Waves, USD and EUR. The price in USD to include the bonuses will look like this:

0 – 1 million tokens 0.55 USD (+25% bonus) = price of 0.41 USD
1 – 2 million tokens 0.65 USD (+20% bonus) = price of 0.52 USD
2 – 3 million tokens 0.75 USD (+15% bonus) = price of 0.64 USD

The easiest and best way to get filled will be to click on the ask orders once they appear at the start of the pre-sale on Dec 1st.
Once clicked the orders will auto fill correctly and only the amount of NCL you are purchasing will need to be adjusted.

I would place your order for 0.41 USD since the bonus tokens are included in the price.
75  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] Bitcoin Growth Bot, Lending Platform​ 2.0​ [DECEMBER TOKEN SALE] on: November 30, 2017, 05:23:12 PM

Waves tokens are simple to create but ERC20 are not much harder either, if Jordan wanted to scam he could have created ERC20 and stayed anonymous? Its not like he wouldn't be able to sell 5m tokens $1 a coin with flashy website and convincing WP
These days people buy crappiest ICO with crappy grammar and fake pics of devs, fake address, you name it

Even though he run this business  as foreign entity and legally can do so  we still know his whereabouts and its not like people would be able to find him if he scams so many of us, so i dont think his intention is to swindle unless he has gorilla balls  but i have concerns about progress of this project.

How is recruitment of new staff progressing? You have been in Forex and stocks for a while, sure you must know some people who can work with you to get this off the ground

In regards to bot you said very very small amount is used  for testing and roi is about 3% monthly without leverage,  
if you ever traded you know that the bigger the order the harder is to get it filled at a good price , you may fill your  $1000 sell order easily but how about 100k or 1 m?
You  know leverage can magnify profits but it also magnifies losses, it is double edge sword

Even if  bot sucks and this is run as a pure Ponzi,  with right marketing this system  can last for years due to almost certain BTC  and coin appreciation

But because his claims are modest i believe he has bot but its  not as spectacular as other bots that make 40-48% a month





Waves tokens are simple to create but ERC20 are not much harder either, if Jordan wanted to scam he could have created ERC20 and stayed anonymous?

I am here and I am staying. My tokens are locked up for one year. I really and committed and invested and want to see my tokens greatly appreciate in value which means this project has to thrive.

My interest is seeing this project develop so that over the next year Nucleus is trading in triple digits. Real generational wealth can be created.

From there over the next 3-5 years some incredible can be created. Who knows what the next 10-20 years beyond could bring. Right now I am focused on the here and now and doing what needs to be done to see this project to fruition.

Even though he run this business  as foreign entity and legally can do so  we still know his whereabouts and its not like people would be able to find him if he scams so many of us, so i dont think his intention is to swindle unless he has gorilla balls  but i have concerns about progress of this project.

Again, I am here. This project already has enough support to see it through. Now it is only a question of how far and how fast.

How is recruitment of new staff progressing? You have been in Forex and stocks for a while, sure you must know some people who can work with you to get this off the ground

The pre-sale needs to raise the funds to begin hiring people. The timelines will progress quickly.

Funds from the pre-ICO are going towards building the platform, hiring talent, project costs, etc. And also towards launching the bot (which will be done as soon as the pre-sale closes ahead of  schedule).

1. The bot is going to be launched quicker than the expected Jan 4th date, but instead by mid December.
2. Creating a back end and redesigning the front is very easy and will be done quickly.
3. Going into the ICO with a verified working bot and back end is going to create a lot of attention.

In regards to bot you said very very small amount is used  for testing and roi is about 3% monthly without leverage, 
if you ever traded you know that the bigger the order the harder is to get it filled at a good price , you may fill your  $1000 sell order easily but how about 100k or 1 m?


At increased leverage (5x) the bot is trading 50 lots per $1 million traded which is still extremely small and light.
Any broker can easily fill 100 lots per trade. Past $2 million the options become to spread out among brokers. This needs to be done regardless for safety and diversity.

Between $50 - $100 million being traded we have direct access the interbank market.
Volume then becomes a non issue, over 5 trillion is traded daily.

You know leverage can magnify profits but it also magnifies losses, it is double edge sword

You go from a max loss of -1.8% to date to -9%. It is magnified within expectation as well as are the profits.

Even if  bot sucks and this is run as a pure Ponzi,  with right marketing this system  can last for years due to almost certain BTC  and coin appreciation

The bot is real, that is a non issue. Yes to what you said with other lending programs if they are a ponzi.

But because his claims are modest i believe he has bot but its  not as spectacular as other bots that make 40-48% a month

But we will be here tomorrow and the day after that and the day after that. The returns don't need to be spectacular for the model to work but only be real. And they are spectacular anyway Smiley

Thank you for good questions, thoughts and insight. I greatly appreciate constructive conversation toward helping make this project happen. Please everyone keep them coming.



76  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] Bitcoin Growth Bot, Lending Platform​ 2.0​ [DECEMBER TOKEN SALE] on: November 30, 2017, 04:14:50 PM
SCAM ALERT

I not have any intetion, i warn to peoples & they have own decession.

if he is genuine than

1. why not he have any user back office in his website.

2. why he taken advance payment upto $250 usd & many people send him already lot of funds to his below bitcoin id
 
CHECK THIS... https://blockchain.info/address/3GufY6tJgT1PcwveQF6Urf5TNEHh75qo1C


I not seen any Lending ico they take advance payment before presale


Guys, please take care, lot of ICO daily opening, so play safe game Always. Thanks!

This guy tried to scam me and I am responding, lol

But okay.

1. why not he have any user back office in his website.

The Road map clearly shows the back end being opened up 1Q18, https://www.bitcoingrowthbot.io/#roadmap

2. why he taken advance payment upto $250 usd & many people send him already lot of funds to his below bitcoin id

As you are probably aware recently there have been some ICOs were it has been difficult to obtain tokens because of too much traffic, site blockage, available supply per round, etc.

Holding the presale on the Waves platform is going to alleviate a lot of the stress on the site itself which should make for a smooth presale. The problem is Waves DEX is a decentralized exchange. The DEX platform is the open market. The price always depends on supply and demand. If someone wants to buy with cheaper asset, then he will place any order. In other words there is no way to put a max purchase cap.

Allowing users to reserve a limited supply of up to 500 tokens was the best solution and the people interested in the project are happy with it.


Now enough with you. You are a fraud and a scammer.
Everyone has seen your email trying to extort 1 BTC

You understand nobody is sending you 1 BTC 
77  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] Bitcoin Growth Bot, Lending Platform​ 2.0​ [DECEMBER TOKEN SALE] on: November 30, 2017, 02:13:47 PM
This man has come here and shouting as if he is blowing some whistle. He feels that he is unfolding a great secret which nobody here is aware about. His intentions may not be malicious, but its obvious that he does not have any proof of his accusation other than the simplicity factor.

I like the analogy of him coming here and shouting as if he is blowing some whistle.

His intentions are malicious.

Here is the note he sent me before posting, https://s18.postimg.org/k6ms3i2pl/Screen_Shot_2017-11-30_at_8.06.41_AM.png




78  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] Bitcoin Growth Bot, Lending Platform​ 2.0​ [DECEMBER TOKEN SALE] on: November 26, 2017, 11:47:22 PM

Is it too late to switch to ERC20 since some people already purchased Waves tokens


Jordan needs some assistance, can we see bot in action at least so we can build team around it


The crowdsale terms allow for a possible migration of tokens to another protocol such as ERC-20 if needed. In which case replacement tokens would be generated on the new protocol if doing so is necessary or useful to the operation of the ecosystem.

I am open to that if it is needed and useful for building a better platform.


After all, we will all have a stake in this system.

At this moment it seems that there are a few concerns regarding the ICO.

1 - Is the ICO being too rushed?
2 - Should the token be an ERC20 token?
3 - Should the ICO happen through a smart contract instead of Waves?
4 - I'm sure solidity developers and others would love to work on this project and get paid in NCL tokens alone, that being said, isn't it better to build the platform first and then go for the ICO?

In my opinion, the most important aspect of the ICO is for the platform to get enough tokens sold so the trading bot can start bringing daily returns. This way more people will want to join in and purchase NCL and more value the token will have. Classic Bitconnect style.

Thoughts?


After all, we will all have a stake in this system.

Any ideas that we come up with here that I believe will benefit the project will be polled in front of those who have participated in the project. Since they have interest it is best and fair.

1 - Is the ICO being too rushed?

The ICO can be pushed back if those who have participated believe it to be in the best interest. I am happy to have those who have reserved tokens as they have real interest in the project.

2 - Should the token be an ERC20 token?

If it could benefit the project I am all for it. I do need details on how and why

3 - Should the ICO happen through a smart contract instead of Waves?

I believe if ideas/points 1 & 2 are adapted then absolutely.

4 - I'm sure solidity developers and others would love to work on this project and get paid in NCL tokens alone, that being said, isn't it better to build the platform first and then go for the ICO?

The token value of the ICO would definitely be higher and it would see greater adaption. I very much like that idea. It needs to be polled in front of those with interest (holding tokens). I can do that this week.

In my opinion, the most important aspect of the ICO is for the platform to get enough tokens sold so the trading bot can start bringing daily returns. This way more people will want to join in and purchase NCL and more value the token will have. Classic Bitconnect style.

The pre-sale will raise enough to fund the bot with profits from the bot going towards purchasing NCL creating DEMAND for the token aside from outside interest. This is key for appreciation.

Thank you for the all of the interest and insight.

didi-man, cicnos - please keep going with me and I am happy to work with you.



 

79  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] Bitcoin Growth Bot, Lending Platform​ 2.0​ [DECEMBER TOKEN SALE] on: November 25, 2017, 09:24:38 PM


If you are open to suggestions make this a community project.


I am not sure how that would work. It seems it would a full time job trying to organize everyone in itself.
Have you seen this type of community project work anywhere else? I would like to look into that more.
As well as if you have any expanded ideas on what that would look like.


80  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] Bitcoin Growth Bot, Lending Platform​ 2.0​ [DECEMBER TOKEN SALE] on: November 25, 2017, 07:17:54 PM


I vote for no 2 option Grin

Option #2

Purchase as many tokens as you are able in the presale under free market conditions.

Bonuses are as orginally listed:

   0 - 1 million tokens 0.55 (25% bonus) = price of 0.41 USD

   1 - 2 million tokens 0.65 (20% bonus) = price of 0.52 USD

   2 - 3 million tokens 0.75 (15% bonus) = price of 0.64 USD

The pre-sale is an open market with no limits on decentralized exchange. Pure supply and demand.

Purchase methods accepted: BTC, LTC, ETH, WAVES, USD, EUR






Nothing beats the free market BUT you have to stop promoting it to avoid UCOIN cash scenario.

Maybe close new signups and we will buy all tokes available.  3 million tokens isn't much when we have so many hungry investors here.

Shut it down pls, no new members

Wondering how many registered users do you have so far, excluding ghost accounts? If you have more than 1000 then you will be ok, Credence coin had only 1000 investors and they sold 2.2 m tokens.







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