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61  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] savedroid ICO - CRYPTOCURRENCIES FOR EVERYONE | MAIN SALE 9 FEB 2018 on: May 09, 2018, 11:07:15 AM
Just buying time....  list SVD on the smallest exchange and we will sell our tokens asap. No need to big exchange.

Keep your advice for yourself because nobody ask for your precious knowledge it seems you are not an investor. Just trolling to make panic weak hands to get fill your order.
Unfortunately, not only in this channel Sad
62  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] savedroid ICO - CRYPTOCURRENCIES FOR EVERYONE | MAIN SALE 9 FEB 2018 on: May 09, 2018, 08:29:20 AM
Fot the delta in minted SVD which was raised previously, besides creditcard there's another even more important factor for that: We have a minting mode and people can decide to not mint there tokens right now and have them directly in our app. Actually a lot of people used this option, so these tokens aren't minted yet and will be minted in the last moment to a programmatic wallet-system of ours, which can be used in the app from summer this year.
63  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] savedroid ICO - CRYPTOCURRENCIES FOR EVERYONE | MAIN SALE 9 FEB 2018 on: May 09, 2018, 08:27:55 AM

I can't know it but this whole explanation doesn't make that much sense in my opinion and I wouldn't be surprised if it's just about buying time and if there would be an explanation in a few weeks, like "damn, they've raised the quality standards too high and now they want to have so much money, we will need more time". By the way: Tobson2 confirmed on a question that they didn't have to pay at all to get that listing and also that the exchange didn't back off because of their PR-Stunt - but now they have to meet new requirements. I really don't get the logic here...

What they told us is that these requirements will be for all tokens were trading has not yet started, so not only SVD. So it neither has something to do with a payment, nor the PR stunt. And I even understand that they higher the barriers as there are really too much shitcoins out there (shit in the sense of the product, not the current tokenprice, which are too often two total different topics).
64  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] savedroid ICO - CRYPTOCURRENCIES FOR EVERYONE | MAIN SALE 9 FEB 2018 on: May 04, 2018, 02:44:13 PM
when bounty will paid dev ?
We're right now finalizing the sales tokens amount, I think this will be finished in the next days and we can mint the bounty tokens next week as well.
And then we can start trade?
We'll unlock the transfer with a joined start date of all exchanges. Currently in contact with these and will announce that as soon as it's confirmed.
65  Local / Altcoins (Deutsch) / Re: Frankfurter Fintech Startup Savedroid startet ICO on: May 04, 2018, 12:06:52 PM
Also ich habe mit der marison von savedroid geschrieben bezüglich der bounty tokens. Sie meinte es ist nicht nötig sich bei savedroid zu registrieren. Die bounty tokens werden an die adresses ausbezahlt womit man sich angemeldet hat. Aber auf die frage wann gab es natürlich keine infos. Nur das sie es mitteillen werden sobald es so weit ist. Naja mal schauen wie das endet. Sind die tokens eigentlich gelocked? Oder wird schon auf forkdelta damit gehandelt?

mein letzter Stand ist, dass die Token gelockt sind, und hoffentlich bis zur abschließenden Klärung auch bleiben.
Korrekt.
66  Local / Altcoins (Deutsch) / Re: Frankfurter Fintech Startup Savedroid startet ICO on: May 04, 2018, 12:06:42 PM
Also ich habe mit der marison von savedroid geschrieben bezüglich der bounty tokens. Sie meinte es ist nicht nötig sich bei savedroid zu registrieren. Die bounty tokens werden an die adresses ausbezahlt womit man sich angemeldet hat. Aber auf die frage wann gab es natürlich keine infos. Nur das sie es mitteillen werden sobald es so weit ist. Naja mal schauen wie das endet. Sind die tokens eigentlich gelocked? Oder wird schon auf forkdelta damit gehandelt?
Korrekt für Bounty-Tokens musst du nichts machen, dafür gibt's ja das Spreadsheet.

Wir finalisieren gerade die Zahl der gesamt verkauften Tokens, um dann die Anzahl der Bounty-Tokens genau berechnen zu können. Ich gehe davon aus dass wir diese dann kommende Woche endlich minten können.
67  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] savedroid ICO - CRYPTOCURRENCIES FOR EVERYONE | MAIN SALE 9 FEB 2018 on: May 04, 2018, 12:05:34 PM
when bounty will paid dev ?
We're right now finalizing the sales tokens amount, I think this will be finished in the next days and we can mint the bounty tokens next week as well.
68  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] savedroid ICO - CRYPTOCURRENCIES FOR EVERYONE | MAIN SALE 9 FEB 2018 on: May 03, 2018, 01:59:34 PM
https://etherscan.io/token/0xbdEB4b83251Fb146687fa19D1C660F99411eefe3

One business day passed and still noting !
Last minting 1 day 4 hrs ago

I don't know if that's the reason but here in Germany we have a public holiday. Let's see if minting continues tomorrow.
Yes we're on it again Smiley
69  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] savedroid ICO - CRYPTOCURRENCIES FOR EVERYONE | MAIN SALE 9 FEB 2018 on: April 30, 2018, 11:34:15 AM
Is there a reason my full SVD balance now shows in MEW, and yet is also showing in the balance section of the SVD website when I log in there?
The sync script is currently laggine a bit. Devs are on it.
70  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] savedroid ICO - CRYPTOCURRENCIES FOR EVERYONE | MAIN SALE 9 FEB 2018 on: April 27, 2018, 03:43:31 PM
when we get REF bonus ?


The ref bonus is already in minting process.
71  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] savedroid ICO - CRYPTOCURRENCIES FOR EVERYONE | MAIN SALE 9 FEB 2018 on: April 27, 2018, 03:43:02 PM
I will be here on till i get my token. I can not follow savedroid to the moon without my token. So please i need my token today. Please pass my message to your superiors or the guys in charge of minting.
If it's paid tokens you should have them in your wallet already, for bounty distribution will happen next week.

happy to know that bounty distribution will be done next week
but you guys still have not announced how many tokens are sold during ICO and we (the participants) do not know how many tokens we get from our stake
Exactly as this number is still not final, working on the last calculations right now. As soon as that's done it'll be minted as next thing.
72  Local / Altcoins (Deutsch) / Re: Frankfurter Fintech Startup Savedroid startet ICO on: April 27, 2018, 09:00:34 AM
Ich verstehe die “Mutmaßung“ was alles zu den Top-5 Exchange sein soll nicht so ganz.

Ganz objektiv kann man das hierhttps://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/volume/24-hour/ ja nachlesen.
Bei Top-5 geht es ja hoffentlich nicht an die Anzahl wer die meisten Coins gelistet hat, sondern um das TradingVolumen  Cool

Alles andere wären für mich FakeNews  Roll Eyes
Korrekt es geht um das Tradingvolumen.
73  Local / Altcoins (Deutsch) / Re: Frankfurter Fintech Startup Savedroid startet ICO on: April 27, 2018, 08:59:51 AM
Könnt ihr sagen wie viel so ein Listing ungefähr kostet nur damit ich mal eine Vorstellung habe? Und wer zahlt sowas bei dezentralen Währungen eigentlich?

Je nach Exchange-Größe zahlt man mittlerweile einen niedrigen bis mittleren zweistelligen Bitcoinbetrag. Heißt normalerweise zwischen 10-25 BTC. Bei kleineren Exchanges auch schon für weniger. Aber selbst die verlangen mittlerweile schon 2-3 BTC. Bei ICO-Projekten wird das meist aus dem Funding bezahlt. Wer 20 Millionen und mehr einnimmt, hat auch keine Skrupel eine Viertelmillion für ein Listing an einer Topexchange auszugeben.
Reine Communityprojekte versuchen i.d.R. kostenfrei über ein Voting reinzukommen. Hat die Community eine bestimmte Größe, die Entwicklung ist aktiv und es ist ein gutes Tradingvolumen zu erwarten, dann haben die Börsen schon dadurch Interesse an einem Listing. Oder sie sammeln Spenden für eine Aufnahme.
Ohne hier Namen zu nennen, aber die Listingpreise bei den großen Börsen sind in der Regel nochmal um ein vielfaches höher. Wink
74  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] savedroid ICO - CRYPTOCURRENCIES FOR EVERYONE | MAIN SALE 9 FEB 2018 on: April 27, 2018, 08:59:01 AM

The investors have bought the tokens, as already mentioned the token economics and the product roadmap didn't change at all. Buying a token is NOT buying the full savedroid company.

Of course not. But if the existing team would do advisory service: It is not what your Investors bought into. If you should finance this new advisory service with the money you’ve raised: The money wasn’t meant for that. Plus: The trust issue that was caused due to an egomaniac but still intentionally PR-show.
And that's exactly NOT what we're doing. The advisory part is a new company, with different (via equity) invested funds from individual supports and has a separate team.

75  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] savedroid ICO - CRYPTOCURRENCIES FOR EVERYONE | MAIN SALE 9 FEB 2018 on: April 27, 2018, 08:55:28 AM
I will be here on till i get my token. I can not follow savedroid to the moon without my token. So please i need my token today. Please pass my message to your superiors or the guys in charge of minting.
If it's paid tokens you should have them in your wallet already, for bounty distribution will happen next week.
76  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] savedroid ICO - CRYPTOCURRENCIES FOR EVERYONE | MAIN SALE 9 FEB 2018 on: April 27, 2018, 08:54:42 AM
So is project SCAM or not? still keep them but nourish little hope for the project, later everyone noticed....
Not it's definitely not scam, that was a PR-campaign which was badly communicated by us and we apologize for that.
77  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] savedroid ICO - CRYPTOCURRENCIES FOR EVERYONE | MAIN SALE 9 FEB 2018 on: April 27, 2018, 08:53:14 AM
They should complete distribution sooner as possible because this will ease the situation. We should expect redistribution of tokens which is imminent as many people will make their entry while some will just leave. After all this small shuffle will have healthy and positive effects. That is the reason I urge for quick distribution to end this all what's going on.
Everyone who has submitted his valid documents in time and is not a creditcard buyer is (from this exact moment in time) minted! If anyone thinks he's missing tokens please contact me directly at https://t.me/tobson2 to clarify the situation.
78  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] savedroid ICO - CRYPTOCURRENCIES FOR EVERYONE | MAIN SALE 9 FEB 2018 on: April 27, 2018, 08:50:32 AM
Let we know, when the distribution is finish and when will be adding at exchanges?
Please giving the exact date when the distribution for bounty.
Distribution is happening right now, you can see the progress at https://etherscan.io/address/0xcd09958f02ef83e82a528875dac91beddffe10b1.
Currently there's a lot of traffic on the Ether network, but I'm confident that we can finish all minting this week.

We're currently orchestrating all exchanges for a joined date, planned for beginning of May.

But what about the exact number of tokens which should be transferred for signature campaign participants? There still only stakes calculated in spreadsheet, without token amounts, or this is an old version of spreadsheet?

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1zQKALP1nqwaYAq2mLt59TDhm10-woRVeAiT5Xof6tZQ/edit#gid=1875234943

Thank you tobson2 for your answers above
We'll know the exact number next week. The exact amount wasn't sure so far as we didn't know how many people will suceed with KYC. But there will be a cut-off next week, so also the bounty participants will get their tokens.
79  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] savedroid ICO - CRYPTOCURRENCIES FOR EVERYONE | MAIN SALE 9 FEB 2018 on: April 26, 2018, 12:10:38 PM
Let we know, when the distribution is finish and when will be adding at exchanges?
Please giving the exact date when the distribution for bounty.
Distribution is happening right now, you can see the progress at https://etherscan.io/address/0xcd09958f02ef83e82a528875dac91beddffe10b1.
Currently there's a lot of traffic on the Ether network, but I'm confident that we can finish all minting this week.

We're currently orchestrating all exchanges for a joined date, planned for beginning of May.
80  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] savedroid ICO - CRYPTOCURRENCIES FOR EVERYONE | MAIN SALE 9 FEB 2018 on: April 26, 2018, 12:09:42 PM
Well, as always there are more questions then answers in this project. Savedroid team looked like serious in the beginning of ICO. But now...

Please complete your sentence but now what what happened if keep feeding the trolls than they will continue to make panic us by spreading rumors. Actually is crypto is best strategy buy rumors and sell news it looking they will win this time because of some people who are still at same point till now.
We're also still answering all serious questions, if they haven't been answered already x-times or are simple FUD by the same repetitive people and Newbie-clones. There's also a 24/7 support at Telegram, so feel free to join us there as it's often better to have a realtime chat than one or two posts a day in a board.

Feel free to answer on the following questions - but I guess that's FUD or I'm one of the repetitive people? Wink

  • It was claimed, the team wanted to prove with the PR-Stunt how easy it is to execute an exit scam and to steal all ICO-funds, your bank and lawyer were forced into statements that everything is safe and now also your CEO confirmed that it would not have been possible to steal the funds. What did you prove then?
  • Whenever asked for refund, the reply is that a refund only would have been possible until 14 days after ICO. Your (debunked) argument was that regulations are so lax that it would have been easy to get away with theft, but when it’s about giving money back to Investors the rules are so strong and wouldn't it be fair to do that?
  • In the AMA was said that there will be no refund because the project didn't change. But wouldn't you agree that Trust and Credibility are crucial and that the "Savedroid is a scam headlines" and "Savedroid has done the most dumb PR Stunt ever" have done significant damage?
  • And wouldn't you agree that the Investors and their Investment were used to promote something they have not bought - the "ICO-advisory-service" you plan to offer?
  • Yassir said in an interview with Gruenderszene that the PR-stunt would not have negative impact on the future price of the token, otherwise the team wouldn’t have done it. How could he/you/the team ever know that?
  • When you planned that PR-stunt…
    …didn’t you think about a potential scenario that an overwhelmed and shocked Investor could have done harm to himself out of desperation?
    …didn’t you think about the scenario that your bank, lawyer, german fintechs, german blockchain association, advisors etc of you would be forced into distancing themselves from Savedroid?
    …didn’t you think about the potential scenario that the connection of words Savedroid and Scam would not be the best brand to move on?
    …didn’t you think about the scenario that you’ll not be able to control the communication and establish your narrative afterwards?
  • Is it possible that there will be legal consequences for Savedroid?
  • In a german article is said that the Savedroid team was thrown out of an office in it’s early days because of „dubios and irresponsible behaviour“ and that you’ve tried to sell user-data. Is that true?
    https://kryptoszene.de/savedroid-status-update-alles-nur-ein-pr-stunt/






Edit: Since you mention the FUD-problem - let's not forget who started the biggest FUD-campaign I've ever seen, targeting the own Investors and credibility of the own project. Shouldn't be necessary to word this as a question...


  • What could have been stolen in that moment is all the money which is not covered by an escrow, which is at least still enough for a CEO to survive for a long time. Besides that the escrow only holds the money until all tokens are minted, so it's more our call when we've finished it.
  • No that would not be fair, because the product plan is still valid, the token economics didn't change at all.
  • No I would not agree to that
  • The investors have bought the tokens, as already mentioned the token economics and the product roadmap didn't change at all. Buying a token is NOT buying the full savedroid company.
  • That's our hypotheses, noone can of course predict the future.
  • No we didn't expect that somone harms himself as that also didn't happen in previous real scams. We've investigated these scams a lot and checked what happened there. Besides that I hope that never anyone will invest so much money, that it's worse harming himself, neither for a scam, nor when a token-price drops which is not unlikely in this high-risk market.
    Of course some people will distanciate from us, especially the ones which have a motivation that the current status quo stays intact and no questions about that are asked. We're surprised be the feedback of the FinTech-community, as this PR-stunt was not related at all to FinTech and only a critic at the crypto-scene.
    Of course we think about the brand, but don't think it'll have a long-term impact and the content at the end will survive.
    The communication was definitely not ideal and has to be improved, totally agree on that.
  • Not that I'm aware of
  • That's definitely not true and we're already in contact with our legal department about these false statements. savedroid has NEVER sold or tried to sell user-data!

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