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61  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Cautious as serpents, innocent as doves. You have been warned. on: November 30, 2013, 09:37:30 PM
I think your tale illustrates just how tenuous and uncharted this whole cyber currency thing is. I recently sold 2 bitcoins out of my wallet at Coinbase, and I have not received the funds back into my bank account.  I'm beginning to wonder how much protection, and what recourse there is, if your coins are ripped off.  Does anyone know how one would go about changing your wallet to another, and how would you know if they were trustworthy or not?

Your money is fine.  Going from BTC to USD with Coinbase is usually processed right away.  The amount of time it takes to post to your account is entirely up to your bank.  I wouldn't worry unless it's been more than a week.
62  Other / Beginners & Help / Cautious as serpents, innocent as doves. You have been warned. on: November 30, 2013, 07:24:39 PM
There's too many landmines in this space to count.  All it took to finish me off was two.  Here's what happened.  Why it matters to you should be pretty damned obvious by the time you're done reading.  I guess it's the fate of the bagholder to sound pathetic, but keep reading anyways and pay attention.

I'm 31, disabled, and fully dependant on my mother and the U.S. govt.  That's not relevant except to explain why I got into Bitcoin investing.  I received an inheritance recently, enough to buy a new car.  What good is that going to do me?  What good are phrases like: "never invest more than you can afford to lose" when you have no choice; where $25k is the same as zero in your situation?  I'll put that money to work for me, in Bitcoin.  So I did.  I bought in @ $120ish.

And here was my first, and biggest, mistake.  I was thinking of BTC as fiat, not as a commodity itself.  So I started buying BTC-TC securities imagining dividends and stock appreciation would do better than normal NYSE regulated securities.  Never imagining that BTC itself would easily outpace all offerings, and worse, That it's rise would put proportional downward pressure on the value of my securities.  

I was going to get out completely when an offering called Labcoin took off like a rocket, and I made my next huge mistake.  I looked over the offer, the contract, the principles.  The devs TheSeven and Howard Wang seemed solid enough so I went all in, I'm on the new ASICMINER train.  Nope.  Hindsight is a mean old witch that makes my chest hurt when I look at her.

The 900+ page Labcoin thread was a circus of pure fud and to-the-moon noise.  It wasn't possible to find the signal.  The daily cycle of up/down swings caused by the fud led to the destruction of massive amounts of wealth.  The stress of watching the swings was physically painful.  By the time the FUD became tangible fact the shares were worthless and BTC-TC had shut down and halted all trading.

What happened?  Alberto Armandi (sound familiar?), Fabrizzio Tatti, and Alessia Tatti abused the reputation of TheSeven to take the community for 7,000BTC.  They used a portion of that to buy 25 Bitfury rigs to make it look like they were getting something done.  (Once the scam was blown open the hashing stopped, we found out why a few days later).

182 of those BTC were once mine.  

There are and will be projects worth supporting, but if you want to support them, or even *ghasp* buy stuff with BTC, then consider the potential future value first.  Of the dozens of offerings and countless alt coins to "invest" in I can count the success stories on one hand, and BTC itself has outperformed all of those.  

That's the story of my loss, Spring to Autumn.  Apparently I am the cliche.  Don't discount the value of those words because you cannot face the abrasiveness of the one saying them.  Note the lack of success stories, then re-read the comments mocking mpex for having so few actively traded assets.  

Pay attention.

Edit: I have been corrected about assets that have outperformed BTC for certain periods of time.

S.MPOE, S.DICE, S.BBET, ASICMINER (arguable, but undeniably profitable), btcbond, xbond.  That's probably not the whole list but the general point stands when so few come to mind when talking about BTC denominated assets.
63  Economy / Securities / Re: [CRYPTOSTOCKS] Labcoin Official Thread - Self-Moderated on: November 23, 2013, 07:48:21 AM
Its just funny we are going to troll fabrizios on teh internets that will show him we're serious. How has nobody in hong kong not given him a few black eyes,  or does he have body guards? Kids are running around punching random people in the face,  but fabrizio can not even be spoken to in person.  

Where is ninelives and his magical "tough" investigators, Again a bunch of pussies. Why haven't any of the euro pussies on here go to albertos mom's house and send him a txt that they are there with her to scare his pussy ass into showing up.

Why do you all circle jerk on the Internet?  I lost some money and I hope I don't get a penny back because none of you deserve to acting lkke spineless cowards. This is why scammers keep taking money from bitcoin tards nothing happens to the scammers, besides internet troll hunts.

Or people are making moves, just not posting about it on this forum.

Anyways.  If anyone has any new info please PM it to Virtualspade, Auto2nr1, or Rulother.  DO NOT POST IT ON THE FORUMS.  If anyone plans to contact a new lead, again please PM one of the above because it's likely that lead has already been contacted, you spamming them could jeopardize efforts already in motion.

Everyone else, sit down.  Be patient.  And SHUT UP about new info.  Send it to one of the above.
64  Economy / Securities / Re: [CRYPTOSTOCKS] Labcoin Official Thread - Self-Moderated on: November 21, 2013, 09:05:04 AM
You guys may have just screwed our best chance at catching this guy in a way that doesn't involve a year long police investigation.  Learn how to be more discreet.
65  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [Guide and Giveaway] Mining Protoshares on Digital Ocean and Giveaway too! on: November 06, 2013, 12:54:50 AM
PYVzZ9ZDhtnBMWoDLhrpZazzfFUrnhe6sX

Received .5, thank you Smiley
66  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [PPC] Free Peercoin Giveaway - Just post your wallet on: November 03, 2013, 09:10:55 PM
PCPUXJ6rvVpggTxNQKvGd1zrn5GkHrdxbq

THANKS
67  Economy / Securities / Re: [LABCOIN] IPO [BTCT.CO] - Details/FAQ and Discussion (ASIC dev/sales/mining) on: October 26, 2013, 08:16:57 PM
We've finally deployed about 10 TH/s of stable hashing output.

Here is the guest account for http://ghash.io, username : labcoin2 password : 12345



Good news.  Where's the rest?  You've promised, and we paid for, a mountain, but all I see is a small hill.
68  Economy / Securities / Re: [LABCOIN] IPO [BTCT.CO] - Details/FAQ and Discussion (ASIC dev/sales/mining) on: October 15, 2013, 03:01:14 AM

That was in June, have they implemented 2fa yet?
69  Economy / Securities / Re: [LABCOIN] IPO [BTCT.CO] - Details/FAQ and Discussion (ASIC dev/sales/mining) on: October 13, 2013, 05:52:01 PM

This would be a great time to tell us exactly how much money is left in the Labcoin account, as you promised to do two weeks ago, Sam.

Thank you for your prompt attention to this matter.

TheSeven and Fruitninja confirmed they've received payments from Labcoin from https://blockchain.info/address/1J3bLZrFdWwVE6kG9cojT5189N6Er2xHrm

Quote
22:09:06 fruitninja https://blockchain.info/address/1J3bLZrFdWwVE6kG9cojT5189N6Er2xHrm

22:22:03 TheSeven someone should try to figure out what of that is really related and what is false positives

22:22:31 fruitninja TheSeven: I posted address here, if you post address someone can begin to analyze it and try to make some sense

22:22:51 TheSeven fruitninja: I received coins from the same address

22:23:29 fruitninja So, we should try to follow it up from the transaction chain, or check taint analysis to see referenced TX

22:23:32 fruitninja and UTXO

#Labcoin log from Sept. 30th.
70  Economy / Securities / Re: [LABCOIN] IPO [BTCT.CO] - Details/FAQ and Discussion (ASIC dev/sales/mining) on: October 12, 2013, 09:11:23 PM
What is your association with BTCGarden?
71  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Plans to reinstate BTC-TC: Don't panic! on: October 07, 2013, 11:35:10 AM
I can't really go into detail at this point but we looked in-depth at all of our options.

If the environment changes we may have the option to come back later.
After you've auctioned off the code?
72  Economy / Securities / Re: [LABCOIN] IPO [BTCT.CO] - Details/FAQ and Discussion (ASIC dev/sales/mining) on: September 30, 2013, 10:35:49 PM
Quote
22:09:06 fruitninja https://blockchain.info/address/1J3bLZrFdWwVE6kG9cojT5189N6Er2xHrm

22:22:03 TheSeven someone should try to figure out what of that is really related and what is false positives

22:22:31 fruitninja TheSeven: I posted address here, if you post address someone can begin to analyze it and try to make some sense

22:22:51 TheSeven fruitninja: I received coins from the same address

22:23:29 fruitninja So, we should try to follow it up from the transaction chain, or check taint analysis to see referenced TX

22:23:32 fruitninja and UTXO

source: http://irc.radiumsoup.com/freenode/labcoin/logs/
73  Economy / Securities / Re: [LABCOIN] IPO [BTCT.CO] - Details/FAQ and Discussion (ASIC dev/sales/mining) on: September 30, 2013, 10:26:24 PM
We've got a payment address that Labcoin uses to pay contractors (radiumsoup irc log to verify):

https://blockchain.info/address/1J3bLZrFdWwVE6kG9cojT5189N6Er2xHrm

Start digging.
74  Economy / Securities / Re: [LABCOIN] IPO [BTCT.CO] - Details/FAQ and Discussion (ASIC dev/sales/mining) on: September 29, 2013, 02:04:37 AM
A proper Q/A session will be held tomorrow on irc to clear all questions. I will give here notice of the starting time.

So you've posted a notice about an upcoming post where you will give a future date for a possible IRC chat.

Enough of this. Stay and answer questions TRUTHFULLY.  My $26k is at least worth 20 minutes of your time.


I do confirm my identity as Samuel Noi, the team structure has changed since when the project started.
Howard Wang left the project in August and left for the U.S. to complete his studies and work there.
Michael Sparmann  has consulted for us and developed software for the 65nm interface and currently is in touch with me, awaiting for a chat with the new technical team.
The ownership of the company will be passed from Mr. Tatti to me during the next month.

What is the nature of the hardware problem?
75  Economy / Securities / Re: [LABCOIN] IPO [BTCT.CO] - Details/FAQ and Discussion (ASIC dev/sales/mining) on: September 29, 2013, 01:32:27 AM
29 September update

We took the decision to outsource the troubleshooting  and final touches of the mining boards to an external party.
Delivery of the finalized hardware will take place before 15 October.
All the informations that are being posted are totally made up and there's no direct connection between Labcoin and the people mentioned.
Labcoin operation is not a scam, we are struggling with technical difficulties but still mining with our hardware and paying dividends.
As  promised, as soon hardware get delivered we will bring online the full mining power and dividend payments will reflect this.
We are still holding our labcoin shares on btct.co and still plan on transferring to bitfunder, this process though has  slowed down due to their strict requirements and all accusations being thrown at us are not helping.
We ask everyone to keep calm and avoid spreading false informations.

How do you explain the fact that your CEO knows nothing about what is going on and is denying all involvement with your company?


Mr. Tatti is who registered the company initially but is not involved directly with the project.

How about Alessia Tatti?

No involvement at all?


She was initially helping with coordinating hiring the team but left shortly after we started development.


WHO IS YOUR CURRENT TEAM?  WHO IS INVOLVED WITH 1st generation gear?  WHO IS INVOLVED WITH 2nd generation gear?

WHAT IS THE NATURE OF THE PROBLEM WITH THE HARDWARE?!
76  Economy / Securities / Re: [LABCOIN] IPO [BTCT.CO] - Details/FAQ and Discussion (ASIC dev/sales/mining) on: September 29, 2013, 01:25:42 AM
29 September update

We took the decision to outsource the troubleshooting  and final touches of the mining boards to an external party.
Delivery of the finalized hardware will take place before 15 October.
All the informations that are being posted are totally made up and there's no direct connection between Labcoin and the people mentioned.
Labcoin operation is not a scam, we are struggling with technical difficulties but still mining with our hardware and paying dividends.
As  promised, as soon hardware get delivered we will bring online the full mining power and dividend payments will reflect this.
We are still holding our labcoin shares on btct.co and still plan on transferring to bitfunder, this process though has  slowed down due to their strict requirements and all accusations being thrown at us are not helping.
We ask everyone to keep calm and avoid spreading false informations.

How do you explain the fact that your CEO knows nothing about what is going on and is denying all involvement with your company?


Mr. Tatti is who registered the company initially but is not involved directly with the project.

THEN WHO IS?
77  Economy / Securities / Re: [LABCOIN] IPO [BTCT.CO] - Details/FAQ and Discussion (ASIC dev/sales/mining) on: September 29, 2013, 01:23:17 AM
How do you explain the fact that your CEO knows nothing about what is going on and is denying all involvement with your company?

78  Economy / Securities / Re: [LABCOIN] IPO [BTCT.CO] - Details/FAQ and Discussion (ASIC dev/sales/mining) on: September 29, 2013, 12:07:20 AM
So the seven was working on nothing?

Seven is working on gen2 design.
79  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Price manipulation and market frontrunning at mcxnow.com on: September 28, 2013, 02:08:24 PM
No! I'M RealSolid!

Actually you're not but are the former FlipPro ass kissing RS minion.


~BCX~

But I am yeah . . .


There's a very high probability of you being RS especially since you have displayed his posting style in several ways, right down to the ...


~BCX~

Oh fun!  Do me next!
80  Economy / Securities / Re: [LABCOIN] IPO [BTCT.CO] - Details/FAQ and Discussion (ASIC dev/sales/mining) on: September 28, 2013, 01:37:26 PM
Labcoin is back in the top 25 ... Just. But for how long


25   labcoin   658.49 GH/s

Gone already Grin

They better switch to a minor Pool like Bitminter where we can see them hashing.

https://bitminter.com/livestats/big looks clean


We could see their hash regardless of rank if Labcoin would publicize their api key.
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