What evidence do you have for this?

The FCC can take months to process the paperwork even after a test lab produces a report, and if BFL outsourced the design, the paperwork will not necessarily mention the company or even the product by name. Companies can also pay for confidentiality, which BFL would have done.

For the benefit of others, this was the thought process:

What's the chance that BFL would tell a lie that is guaranteed to be exposed and hurt their business?

What's the chance that BFL's managers are optimistic and unable to understand the challenges of designing ASIC products and their engineers would fail to communicate the proper information to them?

I have a lot of personal experience with the second option, having worked for companies that shipped products more than a year late. In every case the marketing people actually believed what they were publishing and the managers actually believed that the timelines were viable, and the engineers actually were terrible at communication. It's even more likely in BFL's case since they outsourced most of their engineering. Hence, this option seems more likely.

I'm sure creativex applied his feelings and they told him that bfl MUST have been lying from the start. Everyone knows that feels trump facts and rational analysis, and anyone who disagrees with your feelings is stupid.

No, I just think that their incompetence outweighs their deceitfulness, at least in this case.

I'm stupid for thinking that BFL is incompetent?

You realise that I'm flat out calling them stupid, right?

Hindsight bias is amazing.


How do you know that they knew this when they gave initial estimates? You're implying that they were competent enough to understand all of the challenges.

You don't understand. The chance can be 0% but if they don't realise that due to incompetence then they're not lying, just stupid.

No amount of delays turns it into a lie.

Find me internal documentation from BFL showing a projected ship date of 2013 along with "let's lie and say it will be done in 2012" and I'll believe you. Until then, it's a straight-up case of amateurs trying to get into the ASIC business and not having any fucking idea of what they're doing.

It's nice how it's obvious after it happens, right?

Shipping late is theft? I better go change the legislation.

Translation: your fork is optimised for outdated technology. Nice one.

np

Cool story bro.


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You don't seem able to follow a simple forum thread, and you're claiming that others aren't bright?

Did I say that?

Jesus christ, stop assuming I believe everything BFL ever said just because I think their power hungry shitty ASICs are real.

I'm not BFL you moron.


All you do is repeat the same red text saying "there's no confirmation" despite there being moderate levels of confirmation. Enough "confirmation" for a criminal trial? Fuck no, but the preponderance of the evidence points to real but shitty ASICs.


It's going to be fucking hilarious in 6 months when they finally ship.

Creationists believe that an all-powerful all-knowing man in the sky deliberately created an earth packed full of the shit that he hates.

It's a bit absurd to compare that to a belief like "BFL royally fucked the power usage but has something working despite jesus's shitty fork miner code".

I don't fucking care what you post, but I find it hilarious that you use red text to boost the truthiness.