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I have to say that prism is by far one of the most desperate scam attempts. What a joke
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Just like to thank people sending donations every now and then. Your help is much appreciated.
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2001 you fucking retards.
9/11/01 9/11/2001 11/09/2001 - European form  Yeah, 9/11 stands for September 2011...
So Europeans add 10 years? That explains everything. I meant to say 2001. Got carried away with all this talk about building 7 |
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So 9/11 stands for september 2011? XD
Oh god you crazy people should check your mental health....
Just stop now because you dont even fucking know when 9/11 happened.
+1 I'm not even AGAINSt CONSPIRACY THEORIES. Damn.... Yeah, 9/11 stands for 11th of September 2001 as if you didn't know. Spendulus got his facts mangled up again, he really needs that mental health check. @Spendulus Why don't you answer my questions to you regarding building 7 ?? |
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I am going to ignore most of the things you say that don't make sense.
Of course Giuliani would not have used bldg 7 on 911. It was on fire, right?
It's really kind of weird that you would offer as supporting evidence TVCC. According to the wikipedia entry -
The engineering firm for the building was Arup, East Asia,[7] who designed and built the TVCC after an extensive internal study of the World Trade Center building collapses on 11 September 200
So rather than supporting your assertion, it only proves that they learned from the mistakes in bldg 7.
I am curious what you think it means for a building to "collapse in free fall speed," and also why you say "it's just not possible for twin towers or building 7 to collapse because of fire, not in the way it did."
Showing that the fire certainly can generate the heat required to soften the steel enough for the buildings to fall is exactly how to prove or disprove such an assertion. Yet you would seem to argue that no science or engineering is necessary or useful. This frankly seems very strange.
Sure, keep ignoring facts and keep coming up with your nonsense excuses instead. I'm afraid it is you who don't make any sense. Of course Giuliani would not have used bldg 7 on 911. It was on fire, right? Did you not read my post? Building 7 housed then-Mayor Giuliani's Office of Emergency Management, and its emergency command center on the 23rd floor. This floor received 15 million dollars worth of renovations before 9/11, including independent and secure air and water supplies, and bullet and bomb resistant windows designed to withstand 200 MPH winds. Do you really think Giuliani would abandon his bunker created precisely for such an event because of some small limited office fires? The only reason why it was abandoned it's because they knew it is going to be demolished. The engineering firm for the building was Arup, East Asia,[7] who designed and built the TVCC after an extensive internal study of the World Trade Center building collapses on 11 September 200
So rather than supporting your assertion, it only proves that they learned from the mistakes in bldg 7. Except the fire in TVCC building happened in 2009, WTC buildings collapsed in 2011. Only thing it proves is that you are wrong, or is it wikipedia? I am curious what you think it means for a building to "collapse in free fall speed," and also why you say "it's just not possible for twin towers or building 7 to collapse because of fire, not in the way it did." Again, you are not reading my posts. Building 7 collapsed in 6.5 seconds, 47 stories tall steel-structured building collapsing in 6.5 seconds!! That means there was absolutely no resistance from lower floors when the building was coming down. 47 stories in 6.5 seconds equals close to free-fall speed! You following? Hard to believe eh? Instead of doing your bullshit Mj/kg calculations do something useful and go find 47 stories tall building somewhere, climb up on the roof and drop an apple then measure how many seconds it takes for the apple to hit the ground. Then you will maybe understand what I meant by "building collapsing in close to free-fall speed" |
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You guys look so pathetic with your Mj/kg calculations and pancaking theories it's ridiculous! You can't deny facts whatever the outcome of your calculations will turn out to be. Skyscrapers just don't collapse because of fire of any kind, way shape or form. No fire, however severe, has ever caused a steel-framed high-rise building to collapse right down to it's footprints, pulverizing everything in to dust leaving pools of molten lava-like steel glowing hot for weeks after the collapse. It's fucking impossible in this scenario!
All of the three wtc buildings were demolished using explosives and you can clearly see that on any 9/11 footage, unless you're blind. Building 7 is clearly a smoking gun here, an obvious use of demolition. There wasn't even any fire there any more, it's so fucking crazy how obvious this is.
You sound pretty sure about all that. Mj/kg are not exactly pathetic calculations, that's what we send rockets to the Moon with. Please explain this statement a bit. Skyscrapers just don't collapse because of fire of any kind, way shape or form. I'm curious how you come up with that. In other words, if we show there was sufficient energy in the jet fuel to bring the building down, that's what it is. And no fire in 7? Who told you that? Because I am. It may be but Mj/kg calculations are useless here. You cannot possibly prove those buildings collapsed because of fire. On the other hand, there is enough evidence out there to prove otherwise. Nothing to explain, it's just not possible for twin towers or building 7 to collapse because of fire, not in the way it did. No, fire in building 7 almost burned out completely when it collapsed at 5:20pm. Look it up. It only suffered minor damage from falling debris. Are you trying to say that 47 stories tall, steel-framed high-rise building collapsed in close to free-fall speed (6.5 seconds) because of limited office fires on few floors?? What do you think those building are made of, cardboard? this is how the wtc building 7 fire looked like. It collapsed in close to free-fall speed (6.5 seconds)  and this is how 44 stories tall Beijing TVCC building torched for 6 hours in 2009. It did NOT collapse  Some interesting facts about building 7: -Building 7’s collapse was not mentioned in the 9/11 Commission Report. -According to a Zogby poll in 2006, 43% of Americans did not know about Building 7. -It took the federal government seven years to conduct an investigation and issue a report for Building 7. -1,700+ architects and engineers have signed a petition calling for a new investigation into the destruction of Building 7, specifying that it should include a full inquiry into the possible use of explosives. -Numerous witnesses say the possibility of demolishing Building 7 was widely discussed by emergency personnel at the scene and advocated by the building’s owner Larry Silverstein. -Building 7 housed several intelligence and law enforcement agencies, financial institutions, and the NYC Office of Emergency Management’s Emergency Operations Center, more commonly known as “Giuliani’s Bunker”. One of the most interesting tenants was then-Mayor Giuliani's Office of Emergency Management, and its emergency command center on the 23rd floor. This floor received 15 million dollars worth of renovations before 9/11, including independent and secure air and water supplies, and bullet and bomb resistant windows designed to withstand 200 MPH winds. How curious that on 9/11, Guiliani and his entourage set up shop in a different headquarters, abandoning the special bunker designed precisely for such an event. |
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I didnt see any mathematical or physical evidence or explanation.
Can you please stick to that instead of opinions, hearsay or whatever you think might be true?
So far i didnt see one poster archieving that.
For what, exactly?  You asked. What specific phenomena do you want an explanation for? Ah nvm my bad. I understood it wrong. How about we start at the possible heat energy of jet fuel (kerosine) and stability of steel(frames)? Still waiting for a scientific explaination with numbers and stuff  Would be awesome if one side could deliver some facts. I choose a target temperature of 600C as steel at that point has only some 40% of it's normal strength. It's red hot, roughly. From there it will get orange, then yellow, then white, then melt. q = m x C x (Tf - Ti) C= heat capacity for steel, 0.450 J/degree C Tf= final temperature in Celcius m=mass q=specific heat, heat required to effect said change in T q = 258.75 joules/gram iron to raise it's temperature to the point it's strength is only 40% 259 kj / kilogram ******** Energy content of Jet A kerosene - 42.8 Mj/kg. Conclusion. One kilogram of jet fuel will move 165 kilograms of steel to a temperature at which it has only 40% of it's initial strength. Note that all plastics and many other materials in office environments are petrochemical based, and really only represent "additional fuel." Thank you. Looks pretty good for a start. Do we have exact numbers of the amount of steel build in every floor? Also a estimation of the additional heat energy through the other burnable elements? With that we could make a estimation of how much energy was there and needed to make the steelframe unstable to the point of collapse. Edit I forgot we would also need the amount of jet fuel to do the estimation. Yes, I believe all those numbers are available. BY the way I'm using a 40% strength factor because a lot of engineering overdesigns are 2.5x strength required when humans are closeby 2.5 --> 40%. Simplifies things. Basically it only needs to be shown for one floor, the pancaking is self perpetuating. I'll look around and post that by tomorrow. Like for a rough guess at something like this someone might say "Suppose 10% of the jet fuel's energy affected the supporting beams..." You guys look so pathetic with your Mj/kg calculations and pancaking theories it's ridiculous! You can't deny facts whatever the outcome of your calculations will turn out to be. Skyscrapers just don't collapse because of fire of any kind, way shape or form. No fire, however severe, has ever caused a steel-framed high-rise building to collapse right down to it's footprints, pulverizing everything in to dust leaving pools of molten lava-like steel glowing hot for weeks after the collapse. It's fucking impossible in this scenario! All of the three wtc buildings were demolished using explosives and you can clearly see that on any 9/11 footage, unless you're blind. Building 7 is clearly a smoking gun here, an obvious use of demolition. There wasn't even any fire there any more, it's so fucking crazy how obvious this is. |
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Fact is all three buildings were demolished using a mix of explosives including thermite
There was no hi-jacking taking place at all, planes that hit the towers were military without windows or markings.
Oh, and those who say buildings collapsed because of the jet fuel fire are just plain stupid and should not be taken seriously.
Jet fuel burned off within 5 minutes and only served to ignite the post-crash fires rather than sustain them.
No, those are not facts. Facts you ignore. Where did the people on the four scheduled airline flights go? You know, the ones that you claim were not on the planes that hit the towers? Where did the planes go? Why were explosives needed along with planes? Regarding jet fuel and post-crash fires, steel that is softened by heat does not care whether the heat came from jet fuel or burning office desks. Yes, those are the facts backed by evidence, facts you chose to ignore. |
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Fact is all three buildings were demolished using a mix of explosives including thermite which leaves no trace except molten iron, which was later found at the site. There are hundreds of eye-witnesses who claim they heard numerous explosions going off before the collapse occurred. Evidence is out there you can easily look it up and judge by yourself. There was no hi-jacking taking place at all, planes that hit the towers were military without windows or markings. Just do your own research, don't believe what government or the media is telling you. Oh, and those who say buildings collapsed because of the jet fuel fire are just plain stupid and should not be taken seriously. Jet fuel burned off within 5 minutes and only served to ignite the post-crash fires rather than sustain them. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-wXcJA-et0 |
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Stay away from this. It's that rubbish projectex script you can buy for less than $100
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Monbux kindly agreed to escrow my raffles, we are now in progress of discussing the details and working out how to proceed with the actual draw so everything is as fair as possible. Stay tuned for updates
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I believe u need to explain how it is provably fair in order to get participants.My one satoshi.
If escrow will be performing the draw I believe he will make sure it is as transparent as possible. |
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Nobody wants Z3? How about some Iphones 6 or 6S
because some users think that you can cheat with this "raffle" by making multiple videos until your alt accounts win it and get free bitcoins from entries and the ticket price is so high for most users Its not so high actually, I've seen a similar thread like this (with an iphone 6s instead )and it was a successful one but the difference is , this one has no escrow. OP should consider using an escrow to hold the BTC for the raffle then also the draw should be a live one Sure, I have no problem with escrow holding the raffle funds. As to the actual draw, I was going to perform a live drawing by recording a video and uploading right after all 15 tickets are sold. The video would be up within few minutes after the draw so there is no way really of me recording multiple videos, like some suggested. I could also use one of the random online pickers like http://www.miniwebtool.com/random-picker/ record a video and upload again within minutes. Another option is for the escrow to prerform the draw. I am open to suggestions. You said you will do live drawing but then you said will record and uploading right after 15 tickets are sold so that still not transparent. You can use your alt account to buy that last tickets and you already make the video early so your account will win. The best I think is escrow the one should perform draw after last ticket sold. Sure, I really don't mind escrow doing the actual draw, as long as it's fair I have no problem. |
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that's phone new the prize for this raffle and who escrow you use for held the raffle funds?
Yes this Z3 is brand new. I will only consider using top escrow providers, maybe monbux or SebastianJu. |
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Nobody wants Z3? How about some Iphones 6 or 6S
because some users think that you can cheat with this "raffle" by making multiple videos until your alt accounts win it and get free bitcoins from entries and the ticket price is so high for most users Its not so high actually, I've seen a similar thread like this (with an iphone 6s instead )and it was a successful one but the difference is , this one has no escrow. OP should consider using an escrow to hold the BTC for the raffle then also the draw should be a live one Sure, I have no problem with escrow holding the raffle funds. As to the actual draw, I was going to perform a live drawing by recording a video and uploading right after all 15 tickets are sold. The video would be up within few minutes after the draw so there is no way really of me recording multiple videos, like some suggested. I could also use one of the random online pickers like http://www.miniwebtool.com/random-picker/ record a video and upload again within minutes. Another option is for the escrow to prerform the draw. I am open to suggestions. |
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Nobody wants Z3? How about some Iphones 6 or 6S
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