So you won't say who you are?  

I never said anything about Craigslist....I never said I was looking to buy coins, your other assumptions about the purpose of the coins were wrong ....your assumption about "locates" and long /short is wrong, like much of what you've said it's based on nothing at all ....and I really don't care what you think of Morgan Stanley....I didn't even mention MS in my original post ....only in response to armchair troll keyboard warriors like yourself who claimed I didn't really work for AF, also with no basis.....I was clear elsewhere that I started as a retail broker... that was almost 22 years ago -- I did the job much younger than average and with much better results than average and if you want to judge someone you know nothing about based on the job they had in their 20s which was two decades ago, have at it.   The $4.5-5 bn I did was almost all after MS and by transaction I mean placing money into a LP or other fund which I raised.

I know it's much easier on the Internet, hiding behind anonymity, to mudsling and make accusations ....but when there is no basis in truth and there is no statement the other person has said which is untrue or misleading then it doesn't serve the mudslinger very well.

My skin is plenty thick but the level of ignorance that people have to assume things without basis never ceases to amaze me.   BTW -- what's your real name and credentials/ LinkedIn etc?

Another internet detective.  Yep, you've got it all figured out.

The amount of assuming that anonymous people on the Internet will do never ceases to amaze me.

I think that would add an extra layer of complexity.   This is straightforward for people to get BTC assets into a BTC backed public vehicle.

A surprisingly large number of people say that.

There are many aspects that many of us on "the inside" do not like -- such as bailouts and the government regulations which benefit the large players.

There are also many good things about Wall St. -- the Internet and our world would look very different if not for the VC investment and later public offerings of companies like Google, Amazon etc.

When we are talking about Bitcoin which now has one fortieth the market cap of a single large company of the thousands of companies on Wall St - I think it's much more realistic to make change from within the system....typically this is always how disruptive technologies have worked -- alongside old tech.

This is one reason, with my project, I'm looking t have it run, managed, funded and operated by Bitcoin leaders and using Bitcoin.

Thanks, with this we need 10-20,000 BTC for critical mass for it to work.  I can either try to convince some Wall St, players to buy those coins then participate or I can find holders of coins who see value in the plan.

Done thanks, my name is Bruce Fenton

Not bragging, I was asked.

I believe banks, governments and investment firms mess up the economy also.   But I also think it's naive to think that something with a market cap of $10 Bn is going to simply skip all mainstream financial systems to achieve this growth.

For BTC to have anything close to a real and significant market cap then it needs to be easy for people to buy using vehicles they understand.

One can hope that the dentist in San Diego who heard about it on the news will learn hoe to buy exposure to BTC or one can make a simply public vehicle so that he can buy that from the broker he's worked with for 2@ years.

As far as making money from Bitcoin, of course I am -- I want to see them grow and succeed and I want early adopters to be rewarded.   Anyone who doesn't want them to be a real part of the economy, to grow or to make money certainly has that right.

If you are experienced in Forex you should talk a bit before judging.

It's something I think is superior to the other offerings and something I think would be very good for bitcoin overall by expanding the availability, expanding access and also ensuring a large block of coins are not dumped for a while

I think I have a plan for a superior offering to those with some key differences.

Also, I would never ask anyone to "give" their BTC

Thanks, I attended Vegas and I'm booked for Miami as well.   I know there are many large holders attending, what's the best way to reach out to people.   I've done investments for 20+ years and there is a system! everyone knows or can verify me etc.  BTC is so new and wrought with clowns and fraud that people have major distrust.   Reaching out causes even more distrust in some cases.

Ideal might even be to find someone already known and trusted who has those connections and work with him or her.

I tried Reddit and got 1000 hate mail messages and a bunch of other people  said to come over here.

Any other ideas?

Hi,

Input & advice requested for new Bitcoin project.

I'm passionate about BTC, I've got 20 years experience as owner of an international, US based investment firm.   We are working on an idea for a large mainstream Bitcoin vehicle that would, at first, work with some large BTC holders.  

My partners and I are from long Wall St. careers and we'd like to discuss some ideas and get advice from large BTC holders about the interest, viability and potential advantages / disadvantages of what we are thinking.  Once aspect of what we are evaluating would benefit from some participants who already own coins.

This is for a completely BTC focused project which would aim to help bring BTC to more main street investment access vehicles like IRAs and also help some large BTC holders maximize and leverage their own holdings while not losing any exposure to their BTC.   -- happy to share my name, bio, verification etc in PM.

Please contact me if you can help  // please also let me know any ideas about the best ways to reach some of the key BTC owners.

Thanks!

B


EDIT:  Verification added on request.  My name is Bruce Fenton, founder of Atlantic Financial Inc. which in 1994 became the Internet's first full service investment firm.

Buying Bitcoin with cash is not deductible --- however if you use that a Bitcoin to buy something business related, like computers, that should be deductible.

I'm helping an accounting friend understand BTC so he can offer services related to this to people who need to declare BTC gains and losses or those who want to made deductions.

Can you please give any input about anything useful in this area, what kind of services you wish you had for taxes etc?

Hi, are there any major, world class, international firms who really get Bitcoin?

Not single attorneys or boutique firms, but major international large firms.

No, sorry, OP doesn't understand how the trust would work or how public markets work.

The Winklevoss bros would still own a majority share in the trust which would not only still own BTC but be REQUIRED to keep owning BTC by its prospectus.

I'm an investment firm owner and I'm working on ways to make BTC more easily available to investors through IRAs and in public instruments.

Thanks!