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61  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MZC][SHA-256] MAZACOIN *First Sovereign Currency* ANDROID WALLET AVAIL.!! on: March 13, 2014, 10:59:11 PM
Well I emailed Payu. Have others done the same?
62  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MZC][SHA-256] MAZACOIN *First Sovereign Currency* ANDROID WALLET AVAIL.!! on: March 13, 2014, 10:51:31 PM
Plug the hole in the dam for mining, give some kind of presence on the forums or do whatever they need to. The coin is at a price point of critical mass. Their entire project relies on the coin having a value, and that value keeps declining day after day. Surely they should have some kind of plans to stabilize the price and bring it back to a more meaningful value. As it stands, why would the Lakota's adopt it...it's pretty much worthless at this point.
63  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MZC][SHA-256] MAZACOIN *First Sovereign Currency* ANDROID WALLET AVAIL.!! on: March 13, 2014, 10:45:48 PM
Meanwhile, we're sub 1000. I wonder how far the price needs to sink before Payu, the devs or whomever decides to take action.
64  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MZC][SHA-256] MAZACOIN *First Sovereign Currency* ANDROID WALLET AVAIL.!! on: March 13, 2014, 09:09:46 PM
Well I emailed Payu asking about how he plans to get the coin back to a meaningful value.  As it stands, this project would fail since the premine would be worthless so he needs to figure out how to get the value back up before administering it.  Otherwise, a lot of Lakota will have $10 in Maza and that's it!
65  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MZC][SHA-256] MAZACOIN *First Sovereign Currency* ANDROID WALLET AVAIL.!! on: March 13, 2014, 08:45:12 PM
The pricing seems to be just based on market manipulation and miners dumping. How is this project gonna work if this keeps happening? The coins need to be worth something for anybody to gain from this.  Does anyone have contact info for Payu?
66  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MZC][SHA-256] MAZACOIN *First Sovereign Currency* ANDROID WALLET AVAIL.!! on: March 13, 2014, 08:43:26 PM
I don't understand this. Payu created a coin for the Lakota to better themselves. However, the coin is worthless because he also created a system where miners are the only ones making money by dumping. How is this supposed to benefit them or us investors? None of this makes sense.
67  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MZC][SHA-256] MAZACOIN *First Sovereign Currency* ANDROID WALLET AVAIL.!! on: March 13, 2014, 03:43:38 PM
"This coin has been the worst investment I have ever made, there are loads of bag holders left on this one."

-> It is a VERY hard to keep a coin like this. It should be sold at the top and bought back from the dip. But if u have hold allready all the way down, why not to hold all the way back up?

- Tomi


There are too many coins for it to go back up, about 40 mil every week are being minted.

The same was true last week when people were buying many btcs worth at 15k. It's just all perception. The same amounts were produced last week but that didn't stop the influx of btc coming in pumping the price up.
68  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MZC][SHA-256] MAZACOIN *First Sovereign Currency* ANDROID WALLET AVAIL.!! on: March 13, 2014, 03:05:59 PM
Yeah, the dive from 15k or 10k to where we are now isn't enough, lol.  We need to go lower? Lets go to single digits while we're at it. His mission will fail before it even starts if the price keeps going down. In fact, it will still fail if the price remains the same or only increases a little. It needs to go higher, a lot higher for the premine to be worth anything. But whatever, I'm going down with the ship. If I lose all my money then that will mean everyone will lose theirs and his project has failed. We all can lose together! Keep going down, please!  

It was never really at 15k or even 10k...tiny ass volume sold at those numbers, it was a temporary (and artificial) bubble.  It was really 500 a week ago.  

MZC is the 4th highest volume on Cryptsy today, and most of that volume was above 1700...think about that for a minute or two.  

It was traded at 15k to 10k for a couple of days, and was heavily traded (1000 btc in 24 hours) on the first day of being on Mintpal at those numbers (remember their site froze for a few hours during the peak?)
69  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MZC][SHA-256] MAZACOIN *First Sovereign Currency* ANDROID WALLET AVAIL.!! on: March 13, 2014, 02:56:07 PM
I want to find out from Payu how he plans on getting the price point to .25 to $1 within the year. Regardless of all the feel good plans this coin can bring, the value needs to be there for this to work, which its currently not since the coin isn't at a feasible price point. Anyone have contact info for him? Will he address that concern in IRC you think?  
70  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MZC][SHA-256] MAZACOIN *First Sovereign Currency* ANDROID WALLET AVAIL.!! on: March 13, 2014, 02:51:22 PM
Sorry, I put in my own a few days back at 1600 and it was eaten up right away. Have too much invested already and don't have any extra to spare.
71  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MZC][SHA-256] MAZACOIN *First Sovereign Currency* ANDROID WALLET AVAIL.!! on: March 13, 2014, 02:42:31 PM
Yeah, the dive from 15k or 10k to where we are now isn't enough, lol.  We need to go lower? Lets go to single digits while we're at it. His mission will fail before it even starts if the price keeps going down. In fact, it will still fail if the price remains the same or only increases a little. It needs to go higher, a lot higher for the premine to be worth anything. But whatever, I'm going down with the ship. If I lose all my money then that will mean everyone will lose theirs and his project has failed. We all can lose together! Keep going down, please!  
72  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MZC][SHA-256] MAZACOIN *First Sovereign Currency* ANDROID WALLET AVAIL.!! on: March 13, 2014, 02:25:55 PM
I think Payu should be concerned with the markets and do whatever he can to get things going on an upwards trend. It doesn't do his cause any good to give the Lakota people worthless coins. Yes, his vision is for the long term but the further we crash the harder it will be to bring the coin back up.
73  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MZC][SHA-256] MAZACOIN *First Sovereign Currency* ANDROID WALLET AVAIL.!! on: March 13, 2014, 12:59:39 AM
I remember seeing a post that the tribe (or President) gave Payu and Mazacoin their blessings. I would like to know to what extent this is. Are they planning on adopting it rather quickly? Are they simply suggesting he can continue his endeavor apart from the tribe? I know this may sound harsh, but if they just look at the bottom dollar where we now only have a 1 Mill market cap as opposed to what kind of market cap we could have if they fully endorsed and embraced it, then everyone would benefit from this (especially the tribe with the 25 Mill premine). Maybe its in the works as we speak. I'm sure a lot of internal politics are involved but the market has shown that a huge upside can be achieved provided the right news and endorsements are made. 
74  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MZC][SHA-256] MAZACOIN *First Sovereign Currency* ANDROID WALLET AVAIL.!! on: March 12, 2014, 10:57:11 PM
im not an investor?

im in over 100k in mzc i think that makes an investor okay...

You have $100,000 in mzc or you have 100k mzc?
75  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MZC][SHA-256] MAZACOIN *First Sovereign Currency* ANDROID WALLET AVAIL.!! on: March 12, 2014, 08:20:20 PM
Well does anyone have contact info for them?
76  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MZC][SHA-256] MAZACOIN *First Sovereign Currency* ANDROID WALLET AVAIL.!! on: March 12, 2014, 08:10:54 PM
Their target is to get the coin's price-point between .25 and $1 within the first year. But I agree, he should try and cater the investment crowd (such as this forum) to help build momentum of the coin, thus, building it's value.

Targets are fine, but anyone can make up any number as a target. If they truly want the coin to get to .25 or higher, this is the place the devs need to be right now. They need to be actively posting in this forum, like most devs do.

Has anyone addressed this to them? I know their mission isn't to keep us happy with constant updates, however, it is the investors that are going to set the trend on how valuable this coin will be. So why wouldn't they want to have a dedicated campaign to promoting the coin to us? How can we get a hold of them? I understand they were recently in IRC. Did anyone bring this up?
77  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MZC][SHA-256] MAZACOIN *First Sovereign Currency* ANDROID WALLET AVAIL.!! on: March 12, 2014, 08:01:54 PM
Their target is to get the coin's price-point between .25 and $1 within the first year. But I agree, he should try and cater the investment crowd (such as this forum) to help build momentum of the coin, thus, building it's value.
78  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MZC][SHA-256] MAZACOIN *First Sovereign Currency* ANDROID WALLET AVAIL.!! on: March 12, 2014, 03:00:29 PM
Apologies if this is old news, but I can't find mention of this anywhere else:

http://www.gofundme.com/4uridc

At the very least, this seems dubious.

It does how? because there was a delay getting 1 tee shirt out?..Cut the crap suckex

Err, no, because a member of the warriors says he has no affiliation with them and made him take the picture down.

Because he only posts to respond to critical comments, he didn't post for three months!!! How serious can he be?

Because he doesn't explain where the money has gone, just some waffle about it doing some good.

Surely he should account for where the money has gone?

Surely he shouldn't be involved in a multi-million coin if he doesn't take accounting seriously?

BS stop the FUD it won't work over here go back to herpies board and put salve on that big canker sore on his lips would ya?

It's not just me.....

https://www.facebook.com/TarSandsAction/posts/724537677575947

http://zelinkfangrrl.tumblr.com/post/66147082681/sikssaapo-p-alert-do-not-send-any-money-to

Does Payu give out free blinkers with each purchase of Mazacoin?

That facebook link doesn't even exist on the TarSands' page. If you just go to https://www.facebook.com/TarSandsAction/ and scroll down to the date that post was supposedly made (Nov 5th 2013), you cannot find it. I find that rather odd???
79  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MZC][SHA-256] MAZACOIN *First Sovereign Currency* ANDROID WALLET AVAIL.!! on: March 12, 2014, 02:50:16 AM
What does everyone think the price point will be in 1 week or month? It would be nice to keep gaining like we did today. If it kept up like this we would be around 6k sat by the end of the month. Here is a question, if we were to get back to the 6k sat mark, do you think it'll be from steady growth (200-300 sat days) or just a couple really big days? We sure dropped extremely fast so maybe the rise could happen just as quick...but I'll take these steady gains for sure  Smiley
80  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MZC][SHA-256] MAZACOIN *First Sovereign Currency* ANDROID WALLET AVAIL.!! on: March 11, 2014, 08:23:40 PM
wow only 2 ppl helped me. a maza coin that is worth more means more funds for the ppl who need it most.
this price has been suppressed for over a week. now i get it you guys just want someone else to do all the work.
waiting for a big whale to come and save you pathetic

I also put up multiple walls yesterday for 8 btc total between 1601 and 2200.  Sometimes the walls get eaten through and the next person needs to come along making a new wall.
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