because they are all getting arrested like Burt W
Love it when idiots keep speculating BurtW's arrest. Without any info, yet they claimed he got arrested for selling bitcoins! These idiots are exactly the one who assume law from hearsay rather than knowing the law itself. Media did a great job again..... showing how dumb general public is.
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b4 going to the moon, we need to get on the train first
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if I had a briefcase with $250k in it and I wanted to buy bitcoins who would I talk to? or is that not even possible these days?
You contact Roger Ver. He would give rat shit about US regulation.
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Let's hope that this reduces the price manipulation.
I know that this is good news but I am more interested in what BTC will do for consumers rather than traders. Anyhow one step at a time.
Stupid, traders are one important aspect of Bitcoin Ecosystem. Without traders, you wont be able to price bitcoin. This is a big step for Bitcoin.
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Interesting observation related to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Active_noise_controli have three Sp20 and one S5 in the same room with S5 running with Noctua and Scythe ultra kaze fans (push pull). I suddenly realized that i have much less noise in comparison when I had just two Sp20 and one S5. Upon measurement, approximately same amount of noise is coming from each Sp20 at ~69dB and a little less (maybe 64db from S5 with two fans) with all measurements at 1 ft. However, at the door, just four feet away, the noise already drops to just 61 dB, which is a much faster drop comparing with a single machine. My point is that most likely some of these miners produce the "anti-noise" (see article). I set up (accidentally) my three Sp20 in such a way that one is at fan 10 (fixed), one at fan 6 and one at fan 14 (these two on auto). Right now with all four miners running, I have just 51dB ten feet away and can barely hear them- a great improvement. My point is that by having multiple machines at the different fan speeds they might produce a canceling anti-noise and the whole setup would be less loud (at least this seemed to happen in my case). My dog has ability to move and see at ultra high speed (at nearly 150 FPS). Thats my conclusion after witness him doge a light spark from my fireworks by bending down and lick his balls. Anything wrong with my conclusion? Should i test this with a Glock? PS. you didnt understand jack about sound wave let alone calling something "Active Noise Cancellation". Go to a Cinema, buy all the seats then start experiment listening at every seat.....
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Was he arrested only because of selling bitcoins for cash ?
why would selling bitcoins be a charge? can you be more stupid? read this thread again.
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I know its Seems Crazy But im Just Asking I heard Some guys Saying that it was created by Satoshi Nakamoto WTF?? http://liopal.com (The Game) No dumb fck its created by a poor dude in Vietnam. Are you capable of using Google?
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WTF is this shit?
OP did you just fucking eat a bag of dicks? I cant imagine someone can be so dumb yet still able to stumble their way on to this forum.
Ask CPU miners and see if they "MOVED" those CPUs around. This section never cease to amaze me.
Here is what i found so far about bitcoin community:
+ Bitcoin General Discusion: 50/50 getting bitcoin or genuine interested
+ Speculation: Full of greedy fcks use shills, sockpuppet to lure emotional traders into their slaughter house. 90% of them dont give rats shit about bitcoin
+ Mining: 90% retards, 5% Smart, and 5% liars/delusional.
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How will MtGox users be repaid if the bitcoins are gone? In fiat?
My guess: The fatso hasnt cashed out any of the stolen btc. He would have left money trail to incriminate himself. Beside the fatso doesnt have deep connection in fiat banking world to pull a perfect laundering fiat plan.
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Agreed - though I would argue that must exchanges do participate in insider trading. Example: High frequency trading is only available if select parties have 'inside' information unavailable to the majority of participants.
Whether "high frequency" trading should be considered "insider" trading is a philosophical debate that depends a lot on what you mean by "insider" and what it is that you don't like about "insider trading". I'm not going to get into such a philosophical debate at the moment (and I'm not going to indicate in this post which side of the debate I tend to agree with more). However, when it comes to the specific type of "insider trading" I'm talking about where the exchange itself can easily take advantage with 0 risk, I'm specifically talking about using knowledge about orders that are being added to the order book before those orders are public knowledge. With "high frequency" trading, the traders know information faster than those that aren't a selected participant, but they still don't know the information before it is in the order book. The exchange however receives a request to add an order to the order book from a user. At this point, their software knows about this order (and other orders) that WILL BE a part of the order book in a moment, but isn't a part of the order book yet. This puts them in a position to make automatic trading decisions that guarantee a risk free profit. They can effectively roll back time and place their orders before (or after) the orders that are being added to the order book, making sure that the orders are filled in a specific order that guarantees that they come out ahead with no risk to themselves at all. As an extremely simple example: Albert places a BUY order for 10 BTC at $250 each ($2500 order). A fraction of a second later, Bob places a SELL order for 10 BTC at $249 each ($2490 order). Under normal circumstances Albert's BUY order enters the order book, then Bob's SELL order fills Albert's BUY order. Albert gains 10 BTC from Bob, and Bob gains $2500 BTC from Albert. The exchange gets a small fee from both of them for maintaining the order book and trading engine. Under circumstances where the exchange is engaging in "insider trading", Albert's BUY order is held in memory for a fraction of a second before being added to the order book. The software sees Bob's order coming in and holds that in memory as well. The exchange then adds Bob's transaction to the order book first, and inserts their own BUY order to buy all 10 BTC from Bob at $249. They then allow Albert's order into the order book and immediately following it they add their own order to SELL 10 BTC at $250. Now Albert has received his 10 BTC, and paid $2500 for them, but Bob only received $2490. The remaining $10 goes to the exchange completely risk free since they knew that both transactions were entering the order book and could arrange them to their own benefit. Then on top of that, the exchange gets a small fee from both of them.With many transactions being added to the order book, this process can be repeated all day long completely automated. The exchange can essentially take money out of the pockets of the people placing market orders without the users ever realizing it. I already have a solution to this which i have worked on for the past 2 yrs (and yes i'm aware bitcoin exchanges have been manipulating their orders since inception). Its a completely stateless realtime matching engine. I will decide to publish it thro an new exchange awaiting serious backers (not just fund but ppl with real reputations) In stateless engine, every order entry and order matching is running at the chip cycles (real time), NO memory state to be manipulated. Here is a bit explanation for the non tech members: stateful vs stateless http://whatis.techtarget.com/definition/stateless
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I feel like when Bill Gates says these things it shows he doesn't have a very deep understanding of Bitcoin as a protocol. But to give him some credit, he has come a long ways in the past month or two, so I just tell myself that he is still in the learning curve. I think he will get it more and more, including the answers to his concerns.
On the other hand, I feel like for him to be the richest man on Earth and such a huge visionary and pioneer, his complaints are incredibly short-sighted for him not to see the full potential.
He seems to think of Bitcoin as only a high level layer when he names these issues, when in fact it's a protocol which is programmable. All three of those complaints can be resolved by software being implemented to address these points.
His complaints are what the uninformed complain about. Yes they are legitimate issues presently, but they can easily be overcome. He seems to think they are complete stops when they are not at all.
As one example, think of all the possible choices of financial intermediaries that will be developed to enable customer safety for transactions reversals. This CAN be implemented and will be. It doesn't have to be also. That's the beauty of Bitcoin. You have the power to do whatever you want with it. Why can't he see this?
+ Exactly, he does not understand bitcoin hence the 2nd and 3rd points are totally moot. You cant have a trustless system with reversals.... lol thats like he wants to sell windows with opensource code.
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For the first one. Gotta agree, normal people (non-technology) wont be investing in Bitcoin. Most of them are afraid for the rapid changes in the exchange rate. And.. some of them can't understand how Bitcoin work. Unless Bitcoin is value stable, else, people wont be investing in it.
Chicken and egg problem my friend, To have stable exchange the market cap of bitcoin must be ALOT higher with many more tx (fiat to BTC and vice versa). It will get there slowly i'm sure. Ppl who look at bitcoin long term can happily hold btc without worrying about short term fluctuation.
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really? i'd like to think so but not seen enough evidence yet of real involvement in buying
what a retard, where did it say about buying?
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In case you missed it, the scheduling should be working in latest FW release.
For all SP? or just SP20-35? when the mining is idle (stop), how much power does it use?
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cant help but scratch my head and wonder, "when I walk into my bank and see a teller, withdraw hard currency, has anyone ever asked what am I going to spend the $ for"
LOL!
They actually do, if it's a "large" amount. Think this is happening all over the world last few years. Yes, I wonder under what rock the OP has been living? I've heard of this happening too. A few bank tellers have asked me what I was saving for when I've put money in to my savings account before (though I just took this to be smalltalk even if it was none of their business). Note: they ask that question to follow their policy regarding money laundering requested by FED. Basically they can flag your account to the FEDs if theyre suspicious that your activity isnt " normal" for a regular Joe/Jane. The $10000 limit is a hard switch, this is a soft switch.
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All very impressive but is this still viable with the current price? I would have though investors will be very nervous right now.
12-month pre-payment plan ($80/kwh), 2 TH/s: If you have the most efficient miners at .5 J/GH, income is $137/mo, hosting is $80, you are sitting at net $57/mo. If you have the average miners at .7 J/GH, income is $137/mo, hosting is $112, you are sitting at net $25/mo. If you have old miners at 1.0 J/GH, income is $137/mo, hosting is $160, you are sitting at negative $23/mo. and that doesnt include hardware either. seeing as most miners are at least $500 + shipping. that leaves you with negative numbers, even at $80 a month. your reply doesnt exactly make since because thats how an investment works. If you have a 1,000 investment plan that can garuntee you ROI in the first month its a ponzi or similar scam. If you mine in 90% of the US in your personal home with personal power rates your ROI chances will be slimmer than with ASICSPACE Take a look at your power bills if your paying more than 0.1 a KWH then your paying more than asicspace charges you and you also have 0 insurance and you must listen to your nagging wife/gf about all the heat and noise of your miners. An antminer s5 at asicspace will ROI in about 8 months if the price stays as low as it is if it goes up then your looking easily at 100 day roi (normal ROI for ASIC mining equipment at least on all of mine) If nothing changes all year (price or difficulty ) youll make 200$ easy with an s5 and a 1 year contract at asicspace. To someone who has already bought their miner, what they paid for it is a sunk cost. The question is can they save money by switching to us? For a lot of our customers, the answer is yes. The next question they should ask is..... what do they have as a guarantee that you dont close down and take their hardware? even if you agree to ship their hardware back, the cost of shipping alone (round trip) would negate any saving they have from electrical cost. In other words: they take MORE risk to send hardware to some guy on forums. I dont care if you post pics of your mansion and mistress. Your company is younger than my pimple. You've had a pimple for 11 months? Really should have that checked out by a dermatologist. Oh dont worry, its gone... just like your company will be soon. PS. nice ignoring my point idiot.
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interesting what will happen with this "btc-plant" when bitcoin will fall to the bottom and will finished to be relevant
I agree, some people has just allowed this bitcoin craze to drive them to insanity. I bet Steve Jobs were called insane and crazy as well. In fact any pioneers in the eyes of general public are crazy. Thats why most ppl are just followers while only a few open the path.
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lol you guys keep making fools of yourself by calling difficulty every time dont you?
I swear i can make better prediction by just flipping a coin.
3.5% vs -2.5% .....so close.
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I hope the assholes behind GAW go to jail. Disgusting human being.
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Robert Faiella, 55, was sentenced by U.S. District Judge Jed Rakoff in Manhattan after pleading guilty to operating an unlicensed money transmitting business. OK, I'm missing something here. At that time bitcoin was considered digital asset (or better yet, its legal status wasn't clear). The guy was selling the asset on Shrem's platform (which was registered as legal business), so how is that making him a "money transmitter"? How did he brake the law (apart from not paying taxes on gains)? How's selling something on ebay (including bitcoin) different than selling on bitinstant? In the U.S. you can not have a business that moves BTC for dollars without a Money Transmitter License. You would be operating a Money Service Business. This is why bitcoin ATMs have not caught on here. The licensees are state by state and can cost as much as 25 million dollars for one state. If you find this law unfair, then call your elected officials. They are the only people who can change this. But was it clear at the time SR was operating? If there was no official guidance from authorities on how to treat bitcoin, the guy had every right to sell it just as any other asset (since it wasn't officially recognised as currency or financial instrument). Actually at what point do you need MT license for selling BTC? Is there any trading threshold? Can you legally sell BTC1 for cash, as one-time sell, not a business activity? Read my post above....
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