You should check the definition of hissy fit. That's the kind of tantrum you usually throw.
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You should check the definition of hissy fit. That's the kind of tantrum you usually throw.
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Watch, the name of that score level changed. Oh look, nothing else changed! Ah yes, because its an effect and not a cause. Its just a descriptor nothing to do with setting the actual rating as I've explained.
You're saying I gained traffic by artificially setting BFL low in order to placate 'BFL trolls' and prevent them flooding the thread. But if I set BFL higher, then the guide would have been flooded with posts about how BFL was too high, creating more traffic. You just blew my mind. ......... Anyway, lets pretend for a second that your logic wasn't totally fucked, lets look at the traffic numbers. Lets pretend for a second that by some witchcraft your voodoo logic means my traffic increased by 5%. This guide's views make up less than 5% of my views on the forums. So I gained 0.25% readership or 1,487 views over 7 months, hurrah! So what if it's just a descriptor? It proves, beyond any shadow of a doubt, that you are biased. If you were unbiased, you would not use a descriptor that is a company name to indicate the worst possible condition. That is the very definition of biased. Yes, I am saying you gained traffic by artifically setting BFL low in order to placate the trolls. That is exactly right. I am glad you admit that if you set BFL higher, if you based your guide on facts and were honest, you'd be flooded by how BFL is too high. It wouldn't generate more traffic, it would send you to the dustbin and you know it. If you were not seen as jumping on the BFL hate train and actually using facts and evidence to support your conclusions, you'd be a pariah and nobody would use your guide, because all the trolls would say what an idiot Dogie is and what a worthless shill you are. I'm not saying your hate train fueled guide increased your traffic, I'm saying it prevented you from losing traffic and allowed you to gain marketshare directly at BFLs expense. This is indisputable and you even admit so much in this post. I seriously doubt anyone here would disagree with the fact that if BFL were rated higher, you'd have the trolls yowling at you about how you're a shill and your guide is worthless. Do you deny this? Anyone, and I mean anyone who says anything positive about BFL on these forums is instantly labeled a shill. Go on, tell me that is false. 1) Beneficial to BFL? Hardly. How is it beneficial to BFL? 2) Tarnish your trust rating so people would be unwilling to listen to you? Absolutely, what is more appropriate than using the trust system to show you are untrustworthy and continually lie to your reader base? 3) I wasn't aware you were doing a business. You said yourself you didn't earn anything off of the guide, so what business would it affect? Or did you just slip up and commit yet another lie? 4) You said you wern't earning any income, so how could this be? Uh oh... yet another contradiction. 5) Not at all, are you just making stuff up now? I had no doubt you would continue to publish your false, biased information under the guise of "unbiased, factual information," I just wanted to make sure people knew that you were doing so. |
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Why would it, how could it possibly by so? Are you suggesting I somehow gain traffic by artificially lowering BFL's rating in this thread? Are you suggesting that for the 8 months this resource had no ads in, that increased niche of 'BFL circlejerk troll' traffic somehow made me money? I cut out the rest of our diatribe because it's pointless to argue with you. You won't admit, even though everyone else here agrees, that your guide is biased, if for no other reason than you made a category... I mean a "tier" named BFL. There's nothing biased about that, oh no. That said, you absolutely, positively did gain traction on your guide by bashing BFL. If you had been honest and impartial in your guide, BFL would be rated higher and you'd have all the trolls bitching and moaning and whining and making you out to be the devil and your guide would have gone exactly nowhere. You banked on the hate train and gained your dubious reputation directly off the back of BFL. So yes, absolutely you gained traffic by artifically lowering BFLs rating. That is painfully obvious. It's not about making money (or lack thereof) it's about gaining traffic and mindshare. You know this, you're just being hyperbolic... again. The trust system works as long as companies don't pay people to discredit those they see as opponents as you did. You're essentially saying 'you did it to me so I did it to you', right?
If someone can pay others to game the system, then the system DOESN'T WORK. Dude, are you this oblivious to your contradictions in real life or do you just not read what you write after you write it? I can only imagine what actually talking to you face to face is like, it must be an absolutely mindblowing experience. |
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Yes, because the "energy" was so tremendous. It took all of about 20 minutes. Nice strawman.
As for your negative ratings, do you agree that the trust system is broken? Then if so, your rating doesn't matter.
If you do not agree, then the rating system is working as intended and your rating is just.
In either case, it doesn't matter. But to answer your flawed conclusion... let me ask you this. How many people have seen your biased guide containing all manner of false information? More than 327 I would imagine. So I use you as an example to show a flawed system and you in turn post false information and mislead many more people with your guide. You probably shouldn't talk about ethics.
You targeted me because I was maintaining an impartial resource which stated clearly that it was my personal interpretation and to be supplemented by a buyer's own research. That's what the -9 BFL category was for, quite simply because I didn't want to make a bigger deal out of your smear campaign or draw more attention to it should you be the target of any retaliation. You would have picked up OOF or OFL anyway and still be on 1 point regardless so it made no difference to your rating. In fact, I think you're equivalent rating has gone up quite considerably since you started your smear campaign - even ignoring the fact that you just went up more than any other company in the last adjustment. Of course it matters, I earn my livelihood from relationships I develop - both current and new - from these forums. You saw a quick and dirty opportunity that might benefit yourself at my expense and you went for it even though you knew it would almost certainly damage my ability to do business. You were not and are not maintaining an impartial resource. I think everyone here agrees with that, but you. But you keep promoting it as such, thereby misleading anyone and everyone who has read it. Do you even know what "impartial" means? You can't have an impartial resource that is your "personal interpretation" those things are mutually exclusive. Impartial means you base it only on facts, not your interpretation. To further the farce, you even created an entire CATEGORY named BFL. How on earth do you possibly maintain that it is impartial? Do you even hear yourself? Now, you made the claim that you "can't just rate someone a 1 because you don't like them" to someone else, and I pointed out that you are doing just that, among many other dishonest acts. I've given you fact based examples of why your guide is flawed and you've responded with more "personal interpretation" devoid of any supporting documentation or evidence. I also pointed out your inconsistent criteria that you establish and then throw away IN THE SAME POST, and yet you maintain that your guide is impartial?! Are you serious? Then if it matters, why don't you lobby Theymos to fix it? If it works as intended, then the trust system should not so easily be gamed. If it does not work as intended, it needs to be fixed. Your livelyhood? What about mine? You saw a quick and dirty opportunity to jump on the BFL hate bandwagon to boost your guide to the trolls and you took it. Now you're complaining about it happening to you? Please. Cry me a river. Don't be so hypocritical. |
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Why should I not pick someone who is actively and prominently spreading false information? The point is that anyone, no matter how highly or lowly regarded can game the system with ease. Picking an abandoned account that can't defend itself would not prove the point. Picking an account, in this case yours, that would vigorously defend itself and still end up with a shitcan rating illustrates how broken the system is.
So as COO of BFL, you preferred to incentivise your forum members to discredit me rather than spend that energy to improve your company and so improve your rating... I have 327 negative ratings thanks to you, does that make your happy? Yes, because the "energy" was so tremendous. It took all of about 20 minutes. Nice strawman. As for your negative ratings, do you agree that the trust system is broken? Then if so, your rating doesn't matter. If you do not agree, then the rating system is working as intended and your rating is just. In either case, it doesn't matter. But to answer your flawed conclusion... let me ask you this. How many people have seen your biased guide containing all manner of false information? More than 327 I would imagine. So I use you as an example to show a flawed system and you in turn post false information and mislead many more people with your guide. You probably shouldn't talk about ethics. |
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You're the one that is complaining. You want a higher score in that category than you're entitled to at this point, or any other company gets. Ship more, be patient, receive a higher score for this generation.
I'm pointing out your hypocricy and duplicity. If you call that complaining, so be it. I don't really care what you rate BFL on the guide, but please don't mislead newbies and everyone one else by stating that your guide is unbiased and true. There's nothing unbiased or true about it. It's all how you feel about the subject and damn the facts. You complain that BFL misleads people and here you are doing it. Practice what you preach. There was 290,000 members on the forums at the time. You chose Theymos as one. Why was I chosen as one of the other two? Why was it 'convenient' that I was chosen to be bombarded with negative trust out of all those possibilities? You could have chosen abandoned accounts, your own accounts or accounts you'd made purposely for the 'experiment' as you called it. Instead, you chose me. Why?
Why should I not pick someone who is actively and prominently spreading false information? The point is that anyone, no matter how highly or lowly regarded can game the system with ease. Picking an abandoned account that can't defend itself would not prove the point. Picking an account, in this case yours, that would vigorously defend itself and still end up with a shitcan rating illustrates how broken the system is. Or how unbroken it is, perhaps. At least according to Theymos. I am sure you, Bickfailski and I disagree, though. |
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Ohhh ChuckBuck... I mean Bicknellski. Did you post with the wrong account? Oopsie! lol
Quick, pull a Garr255 and delete it and pretend it wasn't you, then accuse ME of having sock puppets!
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As many as is considered acceptable by customers. Having a backlog of orders behind schedule isn't considered acceptable - unless they're being compensated acceptably. Note thats actually being compensated, not promised to be compensated. Ok, so who is complaining about the compensation? They are being given a full refund, more hashrate or a combination of the two. What more do you want? Eh? You're saying "we don't use preorders" on the basis that you don't take any sales at all. In that case you should be removed from the list entirely because you're not an ASIC company in the recent few months right? You're business model is currently preorder based and until you make an effort to change that you will remain 1/20 for that category. We stop taking orders and that's not an "effort to change that?" LOL... what is an effort to change that then, if not that? Do you have a link to any cases I can view online so I can review? The papers from Woodlaw schedule show nothing to prevent it being a class action. Link to cases that don't exist? What are you talking about? You do know how class action lawsuits work, right? A judge needs to grant the class action case and the party bringing the suit has to bring credible evidence that warrants class status. There's basically nothing so far that would warrant such a status. But disregarding the speculation, the fact is that it is NOT a class action suit at this time and will NOT be one anytime soon. That is indisputable fact, not speculation. And I never said the two weeks was in regards to shipping. Saying no one has ever been banned from the BFL forums for saying anything negative though is pretty laughable though. Every time you ban an innocent they come over here and make a post along the lines of "yeah I just said "when can we expect x y z and got permabanned? :/." I'm not one of those obsessed with your company and I'm not going to turn this into a quote war. I'm not even going to invite anyone else to do so because I don't want this thead to turn into BFL vs the world like the other 10 threads. https://forums.butterflylabs.com/announcements/8203-win-butterfly-labs-imperial-monarch.html You paid your customers to discredit me. You never said two weeks was in regards to shipping? Then what is it in regards to, pray tell? As far as being banned from the BFL forums, please provide actual evidence, not your supposition. Once again, you make claims but you can't actually back them up with evidence. You provide the evidence and I will explain to you exactly why that person was banned, with evidence to back up my claim. See, that's the difference between you and me. I back up my claims with evidence, you have yet failed to do so. As far as "paying people to discredit you." What a pompous, self important ass you are. It was about showing what a joke the trust rating system is, not about you. I don't care one whit about you. You were just a convenient demonstration piece, being as you are active in spreading false information on the forums, so a logical choice for the demonstration. The fact that you are upset about it proves my point, so thanks for confirming that the trust system is a broken joke. How is that discrediting you, if the trust system works? If the trust system doesn't work, how are you discredited? It's not about you and never has been. Deflate your ego a little bit, man. You've not pointed out any facts, nor presented any evidence. You keep saying "that's a lie that's a lie" yet you're not actually talking about anything, its hard to argue against that :s Are you serious? I have presented you with facts based off your guide and you claim I haven't pointed out any facts? Let me quote my post again. Delivered miners? Few ... I mean, it's not like BFL hasen't delivered over 50k miners or anything. I guess anyone who's delivered less than 50k miners has delivered "few." Oh wait... that doesn't jive with the rest of your chart.
Uses preorders? Yes ... O Rly? BFL Hasn't taken preorders in months. Additionally we were and are selling off the shelf miners from the 65nm generation.
Refund Issues? BFL has been issuing refunds to anyone and everyone who asks for them prior to delivery of their order for awhile now. Prior to that, any order that was over 6 months old was refundable in full.
Communication? We are more open about our process and timeline than just about anyone else in the industry.
Ethics: You've created a special category with our name because you don't like us, plain and simple.
Dogie... those are facts. We've delivered over 50k miners (actually over 60k now). It's gone from "delivered miners" to "delivered miners recently" now that I've provided the facts that you are wrong. Uses preorders? Fact: BFL does not take preorders and hasn't for almost 6 months. Refund issues: Fact: BFL provides full refunds Communication: Fact: BFL communicates regularly Ethics: Fact: You have made a special category just for BFL, making you opinionated and biased. Those are called facts. You have presented nothing to the contrary so far except speculation and false information, which are called "not facts." |
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Does not apply. Like I said, provide some caselaw to the contrary. Otherwise you're just being an armchair lawyer that has no understanding of the actual legal system. "Only two more weeks" did not become a phrase because you said it once.
Fair enough, please provide proof to back up your claim. I already asked for this, you've still failed to provide it. If refunds were so easy, you wouldn't have had several lawsuits, forced paypal/CC refunds, and customer complaints. The lawsuits are for people complaining about not becoming millionaries in 3 weeks by mining, not about refunds. Check your facts. The lawsuits have never been about refunds. It becomes an ethics issue when you advertise the competition as $17.50/GH. Which was true when the advertisements were created. 1. (monarch) The fastest and most power-efficient Bitcoin miner yet True at the time and pretty much still true now. Which miner can achieve .45W/GH efficiency currently? Is there one? Not saying there isn't, but it's not an unrealistic claim. 2. Butterfly Labs has shipped more ASIC products than all competitors combined True, although I might grant that if you include the ASIC miner USB sticks, they might have more units shipped than we do. If you do not include those, then yes, it's absolutely true. 3. Our facility in Kansas has the largest production capacity of all Bitcoin hardware manufacturers. Absolutely true. Any of the other large scale manufacturers outsource their production capacity to other companies. 4. The Competition at least $ 17.50 /GH Already addressed above. 5. 65nm ASIC chip is now powering the majority of the bitcoin network Was true at the time of the advertisement creation. 6. The bottom line is that BFL is the only 28nm chip manufacturer on its 2nd generation ASIC Was true at the time of the advertisement creation. 7. All manufacturers in this space have experienced some degree of delay with their first generation ASIC Still true. 8. 28nm products won't begin shipping til year end Believed to be true at the time. Where do you even see this? 9. (monarch) plan to begin shipments in February, 2014 How is this false? That was most assuredly the plan. 10. Orders are shipped in order date priority so any order placed now should be expected to be delivered in March. Also true. 11. We are pioneers of the industry - having manufactured the first commercial Bitcoin mining hardware. True statement. How is this a false advertisement? 12. November / December Initial Shipping True at the time. 13. still on track for December/January True at the time. 14. As we enter the 28nm era, we're the only competitor with a proven ASIC design in the field. True at the time. 15. Tape out August 2013 True. 16. Gen1 65nm asics will be around 1w/gh Believed to be true at the time. Customers offered full refunds if they were unhappy with the new specs. 17. BTC mining, being a zero sum activity, makes it viable and profitable to get as many people to cancel their orders as possible, so your position improves Are you seriously trying to say this is false?! 18. We are so confident in our power consumption that we are offering up 1000 BTC to charity if we miss our power consumption targets by more than 10% And this is false how? 19. Everyone should be aware of the fact that you are allowed to upgrade 1, 2, 3 or 4 Jalepeno's to 1 Single and keep your place in line False how? We did exactly that. 20. Individual orders that are less than 6 months old and that paid for the reduced price 600GH or 300GH Monarch will likely not be delayed past the expected delivery date This is false how? 21. We have developed the most technologically advanced, most power efficient mining chip on the planet by a factor of two. Most definitely true at the time. 22. KnC's new 20nm chip isn't even close to our 28nm chip in terms of performance. I suppose close is relative. At .7 W/GH vs .5 W/GH, I'd say you could classify it as true. 23. I have spoken with Theymos, the operator of Bitcointalk, about this and I have his full knowledge and permission to perform this experiment This is not an advertisement. But regardless, it's true and Theymos confirmed it himself on these forums. 24. plan to begin shipments in March 2014 Absolutely true. 25. However, this is our second generation, so we have much greater clarity on the process Not really an advertisement, but regardless, it is true. 26. meaning the deployment of the Monarch will be delayed about 5 weeks from now Believed to be true at the time. 27. it is possible we will begin shipping limited quantities by the end of the week of the 21st(april), it's more likely we will begin shipping the following week, assuming no blocking issues arise. Absolutely true. 28. our mining chip is more than 2x efficient than any other chip out True at the time. 29. The Monarch product line is essentially 3x - 5x more efficient at any comparable hashrate than the competition
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The system is weighted heavily on the immediate past, so the delivered miners is referring to the monarchs. At this point, yes, you have only delivered a few, and yes, you have again amassed a backlog. Once you've shipped more, you'll get the 10 points same as anyone else.
What is your definition of "few" then? 10? 50? 100? 500? 1000? 10,000? I'm not sure how you can argue you don't use preorders, you have done, and you continue to do as your main business model. 65nm (for the vast majority) and your monarchs were both sold as preorder products, delivered in 2 weeks. Unless you're talking about this split second at which point the only things you're selling are 10GH miners @ $5/GH - I can't give you a pat on the back for that. If you do sell in hand Monarchs once your queue is cleared AND then don't sell preorders on whatever comes after then you'll of course get your deserved 20 points. Heck, I'll even send you a prize in the post if I can get it through customs Easily. We have not accepted any orders for months... I think we discontinued it in May for the 28nm line, almost 1/2 a year ago. Here, let me quote you a few sentences ago: "The system is weighted heavily on the immediate past" ... so what does the 65nm line have to do with it? So which is it, is it weighted on the immediate past or is it since last year? Make up your mind. Refund issues stick much longer through history. The tldr is why did people have to sue individually and class action if you were issuing refund fluidly? You might be doing fine at the moment, but unfortunately this one sticks longer than the others. Have a look at the other companies though, you're not alone. Who is suing individually and in a class action? The Woodlawn thing is not a class action suit and probably never will be. The one other lawsuit is just as laughable. So there are exactly two lawsuits pending, the rest have been either dismissed or I think there might be summary judgement since BFL was never actually served properly. If they had been, those cases would have been dismissed as well. There's a reason none of the lawsuits have been successful when they actually make it to court. Regarding communication, remember that the standard is 7. You don't have to do much at all to drop down to 4. You have a 1 because there is too much smoke. The catchphrase 2 weeks doesn't just appear without reason. You ban anyone who says ANYTHING negative about you on your forums, and say the rest of the world is out to get you. Maybe you have self justified some tilted reasons, but it doesn't help your customers. Oh, and you don't declare everyone else who disagrees with you as a troll (and pay people to discredit them).
See, you are lying again. First of all, as I stated in the previous post, I never said two weeks in regards to shipping. Please prove me wrong with a quote. If I have said it, I said in an isolated post, but I've been unable to find any evidence of it. The only "two weeks" I've ever commented on was Bruno's stupid FCC tirade. No one has been banned for saying anything negative about BFL on the BFL forums. Your statement to the contrary is easily falsified by browsing the forums and looking at the negative posts. People are banned for trolling, posting the same junk over and over or posting false information (usually repeatedly). It has nothing to do with negativity and everything to do with post content and presentation. Please demonstrate evidence to the contrary. I have no idea what you're babbling about when you talk about paying people to discredit them. WTF? Conspiracy much? I didn't create your category, you did. First with the bad company performance to make it the lowest/near lowest performing company, and then again with the smear campaign as an ethical infraction. You've done well to actually raise your company out of the BFL scoring category which if you stay out of it next time can finally be renamed!!!!. You were the only company in it for so long it only made sense it call it the BFL tier. Remember VMC is bankrupt and doesn't exist. Oh, this isn't your guide? You didn't create it? The only reason BFL was "in it" was because you are biased and opinionated. You don't take actual facts into consideration, just your own personal feelings. Once again, I point out the facts and you respond with hyperbole, myths and lies. This is your guide, you created the category. That is a lie right there. I've already refuted the rest of your claims, yet you cling to them without providing a shred of evidence or proof. I'm highly biased against you.
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BFL consistenly and systematically fucked customers over last year, denying them refunds although they were required BY LAW to give them, as they didnīt ship their product near advertised time or on spec (efficiency!). False. There was no law requiring us to give refunds. Please cite caselaw to support your position (you can't, since it doesn't exist. Please consult a lawyer before addressing this issue going forward. As for the advertised spec, people were offered refunds and were in fact REQUIRED to accept the new specs or they would be given a refund if they did not respond in a certain amount of time. How much more proactive and ethical can it get in that regard? BFL delay tactics in regards to refunds were still a huge issue this year, and have only recently improved slightly, after they essentially got "free loans" (and only because they delayed refunds again). False. There are no delay tactics. I don't even know what you are referring to. You ask for a refund, you get a refund. How hard is that? Additionally, it was stated BEFORE you ordered that there were no refunds and you were told you NOT TO ORDER if you didn't agree with that. BFL pricing is a huge ripoff and nowhere near competetive ( see AM / Bitmain / spondoolies / A1 pricing). That's your opinion, not really an ethical issue. BFL consistently lead their customers to believe shipping was "immininent", "in two weeks" and other similar variations of these phrases, which somehow proved to be wrong again and again. The only time I have said two weeks is in response to Bruno's stupid crusade to find out about FCC certification. I replied to a post asking when it would be FCC certified with "Umm, two weeks?" otherwise, I have never said two weeks about shipping that I can recall. Please provide evidence to the contrary. The estimations I have given on shipping have ALWAYS been tentative and have been labeled as such. I'm sorry the estimations have been wrong, but I use the best information I have available at the time. Bad business ethics includes all the mentioned problems, aswell as the systematic preying on newbies through false advertising. What false advertising would that be? |
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Do tell. What "ethics" are you so bent out of shape on? You bitch and you moan about "ethics" constantly, yet you ignore the fact that BFL has bent over backwards to try to satisfy customers. Yes, BFL has been late. Yes, some of the products have failed to meet initial expectations from the design phase. Beyond that, what ethics do you realistically have a problem with? That BFL did not give refunds after shipping started (even though they gave full, 100% refunds up until that time.)? You complain that they didn't give refunds after they spent the money to acquire the hardware to produce the product to deliver? That's your beef? You conveniently forget the months and months of full refunds that were offered prior to that. What else? People bitch about not communicating, except BFL has been the most open and forthcoming hardware manufacturer out there with timelines and states of progress. That's really been the problem all along, BFL has been too open and communicative, which gives people false understand of the processes involved. Anyone who's actually gone through the process understands the problems encountered. Those that haven't are the ones that complain the loudest. What else is there? Lets talk about design spec not meeting final product performance. 1st generation FGPA? Yep, it was off and it was late. Refunds were offered. 2nd generation FPGA? Over performed initial spec, delivered on time. 1st generation ASIC? Yep, it was off and it was late. 100% refunds, no questions asked, were offered until the product actually started shipping, then on a case by case basis. 2nd generation ASIC? Learned from mistakes with 1st generation. Stated from the start that there was no definitive shipping date and if you were uncomfortable with this, in big bold letters you were told DO NOT PRE-ORDER THIS PRODUCT. Here, let me quote the text you are presented with before ordering: This is a Pre-Order product which is not yet shipping. If you're uncomfortable waiting until the development is complete and the product is shipped, do NOT pre-order this product. Perhaps undesirable, but this is a pre-order market. Customers flatly demand to get in line for the new technology before it's finished development. All manufacturers in this space have experienced some degree of delay with their first generation ASIC, so we're reluctant to give a specific delivery date. That has been there from DAY 1 on the Monarch. Real unethical of BFL. Telling people to NOT order the product if they don't want to take the risk of waiting for the product. Telling people there is not delivery date. Refunds offered? Check Telling people not to pre-order? Check Telling people there is no set delivery date? Check Telling people where we are at with development process? Check Longest warranty in the industry? Check No questions asked RMA, even for 2nd hand devices? Check What else is there? What other "ethics" are so poor? Do tell. Try to be objective. |
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Grind that axe, man! Grind it!
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How's that BPM... I mean Wasp... I mean.. whatever sham product you are hawk now treating you? Got that product out yet? No? Aww... Yet another failure for Bickdullski. That makes you what... 0 for how many? You have a 100% failure rate and you want to tell other people how to run a business? Please... Your entire life is one failure after another.
Failure to deliver is what you do. BFL has delivered everything ordered. It may be late, but at least they deliver. Unlike you.
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I can't just set all their scores to 1 because you don't like them, its not how it works.
Are you serious? That's exactly how it works. Lets see here: BFL: Delivered miners? Few ... I mean, it's not like BFL hasen't delivered over 50k miners or anything. I guess anyone who's delivered less than 50k miners has delivered "few." Oh wait... that doesn't jive with the rest of your chart. Uses preorders? Yes ... O Rly? BFL Hasn't taken preorders in months. Additionally we were and are selling off the shelf miners from the 65nm generation. Refund Issues? BFL has been issuing refunds to anyone and everyone who asks for them prior to delivery of their order for awhile now. Prior to that, any order that was over 6 months old was refundable in full. Communication? We are more open about our process and timeline than just about anyone else in the industry. Ethics: You've created a special category with our name because you don't like us, plain and simple. So what's this BS about "I can't just set all their scores to 1 because you don't like them" again? That's all your guide is, there's nothing objective about it. You set scores arbitrarily based off of zero facts or figures. It's all about your flawed, biased opinion. At least Bickdullski admits his guide is opinionated and biased. But by all means, carry on. I just wanted to laugh at your knee slapper of a quote and point out your incredible hypocrisy. |
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You need to update your BFGminer. I don't believe 4.4.0 supports it. You need 4.6.x or better. Latest release is 4.7.0 I think.
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Josh/Inaba is gagged by their attorneys
He hasn't posted anything since April yet has logged on less than a week ago.
They probably don't want the hole to get any deeper when they can't control the conversation.
That little pussy is going to sing like a fucking canary when the shit actually hits the fan. Sonny fucked up by hiring the retard and paid the price while Josh helped dig that big fat hole. Now Sonny has to keep the useless sack of shit around for fear he will sing like the bitch he is if he's let go. Either way at some point bitch boy will not be able to keep the big boy pants on and is going to sell old Sonny down the fucking river. Going to be loads of fun, shits just warming up, be prepared to be shocked and amazed, I predict we aint seen nothing yet!! The only pussy here is you, as in you are whining like a cat in heat. Whine some more for me, I like to read between the lines on how pathetic your life is. Gagged by lawyers? Way to spread more lies, Joe! How many lies can you tell in one day? Lets find out... go! You wonder why I don't bother coming by here very often... heh. This place is the laughingstock of the hardware community. Nobody gives two shits about this place anymore and it's all thanks to people like you making the incredible shithole that it is. Good luck and please carry on and see how much I give a shit about the trolls here! |
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And you are putting your faith in a "man" that can't even tell a reflection from a spot on a chip and claims to be an engineer. Wow... you guys are up the proverbial shit creek if that's the caliber of intelligence you can bring to bear upon Hashfast. Good luck!
Wow the trust rating on you - btw, I am curious, how are your own units coming along? Why is it that now HF and VMC copied your pcie layout? Because I was a miner and I know what miners want. The other companies don't know shit about actual day to day mining and what's the most convenient, since they've never actually done it. What about my trust rating? It looks good to me. Or are you under the mistaken impression the trust rating means something?  Looking around the forums it doesn't appear that bfl's engineers are going to be moving into offices at nasa anytime soon either.
What, you mean other than the fact that our mining chip is more than 2x efficient than any other chip out there? |
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