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601  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: server psu on: May 29, 2017, 05:27:40 PM
Hey, anyone remember that guy who sells server psu's with the cables?  can someone post here the thread. Can't find it.

@Finsky I'm talking to him right now and will be getting some server PSU's and cables from him when I figure out how many I need Smiley super helpful and awesome guy very knowledgeable
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=347946
602  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Fourth alt coin thread last three got oversized. on: May 29, 2017, 05:24:45 PM


Has anyone heard if smOS is going to add nvidia and cpu mining anytime soon?

Did asked him -- but he said not on top of his priority at the moment.
I have small NVIDIA farm btw.... running Windows and fullzero's nvoc linux.


Does nvoc have remote management similar to smOS to control rigs? Also have been checking smOS for the new SRR and still not released yet. Am looking forward to getting one with a couple of the expansion boards. Thanks
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According to fullzero, he is working on some management tools for people who have multiple rigs.

I have SRR in my farm too to manage around 33 rigs - pretty good this SRR - the farm is 99% up and green every day.
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I have a bunch of Router resetters from other projects that power cycle when there's no internet connection  -  which obviously doesn't do anything if miner gets hung up.

So SRR can actually tell if the miner gets hung up and will reboot the computer?

Thanks -
603  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Looking for GPU rack on: May 29, 2017, 05:14:55 PM
make your own, free or very cheap vs 150$+. it's ultra easy, and fast.

but it's totally insane to use wood for it..

i would not use wood for it you can make one in alluminium for $20 with allt he connectorsa nd tube, don't need to risk to catch fire with wood, alluminium is much safer, just use plastic motherboard standoffs

Do you know where to get aluminum t-slots? I found a place online that sells kits, but it's like $180 a kit might as well buy one prebuilt (kit probably makes more than 1 rig but don't know)
604  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: [Burst mining] Why did he buy 70TB of HDDs? on: May 29, 2017, 04:53:15 PM
Like Philip said resale on HD's is great. HD's hold their value very well. also with 70TB he should be bringing in quite a bit more than $50 a month. 70TB should do $150-200 a month at least

70tb of burst mining is about 400$ A month before power
I have an old 12 bay tower server I'll setup one day for mining burst

About 2 months ago I was doing the math and it was less than $1/mo per TB of HDD - did GROSS profit really jump up 7x??? that can't be right is it? That would mean Burst profitability rose 3x higher than BTC??

Guess I have to relook into this thanks
605  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Where to find info on how many gpu rigs a standard home can support on: May 29, 2017, 07:23:13 AM
Haven't gotten around to getting an electrician out yet - but here's my current cheap ol breaker box -

Any ideas?



I don't really know why the Washer/Dishwasher/Disposal/Dryer are all connected like they are -

Also not sure if the main 100amps can handle a 60 amp sub panel or possibly more? Don't even know yet if the wiring would support a 200amp upgrade without digging. Guess that's why an electrician needs to come out?
606  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Where to find info on how many gpu rigs a standard home can support on: May 28, 2017, 09:26:59 PM
You need to take a look at your electric panel and determine what kind of service you have and how many circuits that are (typically) 15 or 20 Amps. You then need to determine what is connected to each individual circuit, how many watts each circuit has on it already etc.... Then you can determine how many watts are left for mining rigs. It's a bit daunting if you aren't familiar with electricians work, or even general contracting.

If you happen to have a 20 Amp circuit in your house that has nothing connected to it at all then you have ~1920 watts to use for mining. --- 20 Amps x 120 Volts = 2400 Watts x 80% "safe load" = 1920 usable Watts on that circuit. If you are fortunate enough to have a 240 Volt circuit (rarer in the USA) you have double the Watts to use. A 14 Amp circuit gives you 1440 Watts. You can manage to have two 6 GPU rigs on a 20 Amp circuit if you do some undervolting and/or power limiting, but it's not not too likely that you will fit more then one 6 GPU rig on a 15 Amp circuit.

Buy a KillaWatt (or other brand) electric meter (plugs into an outlet and then you plug the appliance etc. into it) for $20 and you will know exactly how many Watts anything in your house is using.

Elder is right on the money with this - make sure you don't buy the killa watt ez, you want the regular Kill A Watt and not the EZ version
607  Economy / Digital goods / Re: Method to get Verizon 4G UNLIMITED service for approx $30/month! on: May 28, 2017, 09:20:24 PM
Everyone has been messaged. Hope it helps  Smiley

Thanks OP
608  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Where to find info on how many gpu rigs a standard home can support on: May 28, 2017, 07:52:17 PM
worst case scenario is you can either upgrade the panel or run a sub panel -  i have a horrible panel only 100amp 120v so will be installing a subpanel or maybe even trying to upgrade to 200amp panel depending on what the electrician says. we were already in the middle of getting solar panels before I decided to start mining so we'll see how much that helps Smiley
609  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Fourth alt coin thread last three got oversized. on: May 28, 2017, 07:38:34 PM
what mobos are you using for those 480's? OMG 4 cards no risers? So awesome!!!!
610  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Mining software on: May 28, 2017, 07:32:52 PM
thank you for your response, that's pretty much plug and go. Is there a difference between the software front like nicehash and the CMD screen that I keep seeing around?

Small differences - for a small newb like me nicehash is what I started with and very happy with it, very easy to use. I've moved on to different pools but that's because I like tinkering learning and tweaking things. Nicehash is awesome though because I knew absolutely zero and it was up and running with a couple clicks.
611  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Fourth alt coin thread last three got oversized. on: May 28, 2017, 05:57:46 PM


this is about

1400  for 1080ti
  350  for  1080
 110   for   mobo
  40    for   ssd
 110   for   psu
   35   for  ram

2150 with no sales or deals     I think a pandaminer is now  about 2500 shipped to usa.

this will do say 1700 sols for zec  at 500 watts at kill-a-watt-meter   and be quiet .

the panda miner will do 2300 sols at  1100 watts maybe 1000 watts and be loud


Is 1080 half price of 1080Ti?

They are around $500 so about $200 cheaper than the 1080Ti's
612  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Fourth alt coin thread last three got oversized. on: May 28, 2017, 05:06:01 PM


I have four of those aero's  they are pretty good.


to me  this  board

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813145007

this psu

http://www.ebay.com/itm/EVGA-SuperNOVA-220-P2-0750-RX-750W-ATX12V-EPS12V-SLI-Ready-CrossFire-Ready-80-/382026031239?

this cpu  note with the T

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-Pentium-Processor-G4400T-Dual-Core-2-90Ghz-H2-CPU-/272645034798?

two aero 1080 ti
http://www.ebay.com/itm/MSI-GeForce-GTX-1080-Ti-DirectX-12-GTX-1080-Ti-AERO-11G-OC-11GB-352-Bit-GDDR5X-P-/382048425324?

a 120 gb ssd
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Super-Talent-2-5-SATA-II-MLC-120GB-Internal-SSD-Drive-FTM28GL25H-9012-/263006717112?

a stick of crucial ram

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ballistix-Sport-4GB-DDR4-2400-UDIMM-/252834383013?

is really easy to run  no risers very small size  allows multiple rig locations and multiple coins mined.  keeps cool.


if you want an upgrade  use this board

http://www.ebay.com/itm/GIGABYTE-GA-Z270P-D3-rev-1-0-LGA-1151-Intel-Z270-HDMI-SATA-6Gb-s-USB-3-1-ATX-/381927411340?

go

 aero 1080 ti
 aero 1080 ti
 zotac 1070 mini

the short zotac 1070 leaves room for the middle aero 1080 ti to breathe  this rig will do  650 + 650 + 400 =  1700 zec  at 500 watts  which still allows for  the evga 750 p2  psu

this is about

1400  for 1080ti
  350  for  1080
 110   for   mobo
  40    for   ssd
 110   for   psu
   35   for  ram

2150 with no sales or deals     I think a pandaminer is now  about 2500 shipped to usa.

this will do say 1700 sols for zec  at 500 watts at kill-a-watt-meter   and be quiet .

the panda miner will do 2300 sols at  1100 watts maybe 1000 watts and be loud


You're an animal phil!

Are you mining ZEC? If so what software/pool setup are you using?

I'm modeling my farm after yours, you've definitely been an inspiration - imitation is the best form of flattery - so they say

Cheesy

Thanks again for all the awesome input phil!
613  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Nvidia vs AMD for Skein mining on: May 28, 2017, 04:56:49 PM
nvidia is far better a 1080ti can do $350 a month on skein algo, no amd card can do that much on skein, and i bet amd is bad on other good algo like lbry and x17 or blake2s

Damn I missed the boat! Current earnings are a little bit more than 30% lower than last month then. I've been tracking earnings by the hour and daily/monthly is definitely down >30% Sad Still good so can't really complain... wait... I'm going to complain anyways Smiley
614  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Reliable Risers on: May 28, 2017, 04:54:00 PM
today is was messing with 2x1080ti - msi extreme oc and gigabyte xtreme oc versions - when mining, thing eats 680-720Watts (under 75'C) being said that, having powered raisers is plus, sa apparently those versions consume about 300W each at least and they have 8pin +8pin connector on each card (150w+150w)ave 18AWG

yes, stock tdp is absurd and specially for gigabyte Cheesy now im on 73% tdp and eats only 180w Smiley founders ed.

definitely, but since I have density issues I need the highest hash power available so they are what's best for me atm - wanting to add more but I'm running out of breakers to throw the machines on... oh... and the heat... the heat! lol I've been reading for a couple days now trying to find proper cooling solutions - all my rigs (not really rigs, just computers 2 GPU each) are currently looking waaaaaaay bulky since they're all in Full Tower cases
615  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: First Rig for Unlimited Free Power on: May 28, 2017, 02:39:17 PM
Free Power = Mine Bitcoins
616  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why There's No Shootings In The US Anymore? on: May 28, 2017, 10:08:11 AM
lol just bcs news doesn't report it doesn't mean it's not happening.
617  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: ROI question on mining rigs on: May 28, 2017, 08:30:08 AM
Asrock 970X Extreme 4 on socket AM3+
Asrock FM2A88X Extreme 6+ on socket FM2+ on my usual "mixed rigs with an APU"

 There are a LOT of similar options for Intel, and several others for AMD, but this pair tend to be the lowest cost or VERY close to it, and they *work*.

 4, you're looking at a very limited selection of Intel boards - the one that sticks in my mind is a Biostar "Racer" model with 4 x PCI-E 3.0 16x slots (but not all of them are electrically 16x, which isn't a significant issue for mining on).

 The MSI MB you linked to WILL support 4 dual cards - you just need to run it as an open rig, or use a case like the Thermaltake Vista V34 that has specific "8 peripheral slots" support.
 Cards do NOT have to overlap the motherboard if the case makes provision for that (most cases don't).

 Just don't try to run more than 1 of the Gigabyte AORUS cards on a setup like that, they won't physically fit (those cards are at least 2.5 slots wide and some apparently are 3).

 The MAJOR down side on 4 card rigs is cooling gets a lot tougher to make work. I doubt you will be able to keep a 4-card non-riser rig full of 1080 ti cards cool - it's hard enough by report to keep 4 card rigs like that with RX 470 or 480 cards cool unless you undervolt a lot and turn the TDP limit down, and those are only 150 watt OR LESS cards to start with.

 I end up using one of the Gigabyte "ITX" very short cards in slot 3 of my *3* card rigs in order to keep the middle card cool (the middle card gets ONE fan completely unobstructed and the other fan(s) almost completely blocked, vs the #1 card having all fans with a narrow space for airflow and therefore partly obstructed), running 3 x 1070s.


 Mining is NOT bandwidth-intensive to any significant degree, or riser rigs with cards running from 1x slots would show VERY bad performance on those cards.



That is a ton of awesome infomation, thank you so much for all the detail it's greatly appreciated and definitely helps me understand all the wonderful stuff much better!
618  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Don't cheap out on your PSU on: May 28, 2017, 06:10:21 AM
That's pretty much everything in life, buy quality, buy once. Learned the hard way so many times, buy budget cheapies, you'll be buying them over and over again.
619  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: ROI question on mining rigs on: May 28, 2017, 06:08:43 AM
If worst case comes around; follow phil's route and find MB's that have 4x PCIE slots

Or go my route and build 3-card rigs with no risers and still have the spacing for good cooling - and they're not much IF ANY MORE per GPU than riser rigs while being noticeably easier to set up, get working, and tend to be more reliable.

 Mining generally does NOT need PCI-E 3.0 for full speed performance, as it's not bandwidth-heavy to the GPU in most cases - so going a lower-cost AMD route on the AM3/AM3+ socket and DDR3 (which is STILL cheaper at the low end than Intel's needed DDR4, though the price gap IS finally narrowing) is very viable.



Which boards are you using that can handle 3 dual PCIE cards? I would love to know - I'm using all no riser builds but my builds are all 2 GPU, would love to get some 3 or even 4 no Riser rigs setup!

Thanks, and if you know of any boards that support 4 that would be awesome as well. I've seen this one but not sure if it will fit 4 1080Ti's -

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/Z270-XPOWER-GAMING-TITANIUM.html#productFeature-section

It looks like the 4th one on the bottom wouldn't be able to accommodate a 4th dual GPU
620  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: captminer's mining lounge on: May 27, 2017, 11:39:39 PM
I'm still so amazed at how CLEAN your rig looks!!!!

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