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601  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] IPO of MaidSafe:  Entering the Future of the Decentralized Internet on: May 19, 2014, 09:12:04 PM
Hey Chang Hum,

please just go away.

We got your point, but you are telling the same things over and over again.

Yes you donīt like, so move on, and stop spamming this thread.


No I'm not saying the same things over and over. One quotes from a topic today and I don't believe I've quoted this post were David Irvine directly lies to investors about his reason for banning me before.

Sorry if you feel I'm a threat to your shitty stupid "investment" you didn't bother to do any due diligence on. As my posts are very relevant to any newcomers thinking of investing in this nonsense, and the level of insight here is very low I think I'll stay.

Given the amount of time you spend on this topic, you must not have much of a life.

You are just the kind of redundant noise which lowers the value of Bitcoin Talk.

I would prefer to be able to follow projects and their news here, but people like yourself have driven projects to their own forums. You represent a gross waste of theirs and my time, but then, that is why there is an ignore function.

Edit: First time I ever used ignore...too bad it still shows his presence.

BTT is loaded with black mailers waiting for a hefty payoff.
602  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: New Official AMT Thread on: May 19, 2014, 08:44:38 PM
Hmm I just got an email from AMT....I got an invoice...balance paid in full and all that. Looks like they might be restructuring their records keeping process.....least to cover things. Wonder if the company has changed hands or something.

I would hope the next step is to get us all the working hardware we ordered for the invoiced amounts. OR if they are being forced into honoring the MPP that would be good too. At this point tho I am doubtful of any refund option or RMA. I just want working hardware I can hash with. I am stuck with what is a 500Ghs miner when I should have been hashing at 2.4Ths with my two miners. Quite a gap. Well hopefully the next email is that I am getting a product shipped for me if I got an invoice. (even though I got one already from them once before)
I just got an invoice too...

Yeah... very strange about that invoice.  Maybe these folks are so disorganized, they don't even know which customers they owe them money.   The invoice was created using QuickBooks, previous to that,  it is anybody's guess if they had a system to manage their orders.

Let's be honest,  they don't seem even to have a system to mass email their customers.   Has anyone ever received an email from AMT discussing delayed shipments?   
603  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: New Official AMT Thread on: May 19, 2014, 08:28:46 PM
Anyone else get the "invoice" email with the revised dates? Mine was stated at 4/29/2013 when in fact I was promised miners within 3-4 weeks from the original date, in the end I got my miners in early April BUT they don't work and have no confirmation or update on whether I am getting replacements or not. I was offered 2 replacement miners on the 10th, I accepted but have gotten no follow up.


On the hardware side....damn I had not even considered the heatsink as a source of the shorts.....Just an oversight since its such an obvious and needed piece of hardware....alternately, couldn't a small copper plate be inserted in between each chip? Sort of how CPU heatsinks function. Put a copper plate/shim in between the chips and the heatsink it would actually eliminate that particular problem. Both sides greased up to keep it held in somehow. maybe as a getto solution crazy glue the corners to keep it fixed and grease up both sides of the shim to insure contact with both. The copper thermal transfer would work in a pinch and would be a nice workaround to the shorting issues that MIGHT be caused by the heatsink...

Also sorry to hear your card died. This was the same issue I observed in almost every instance (one card was DOA and never worked). Most of the others did the same thing within minutes. The ones I have running now I figure are on borrowed time. The only working miner I have is an Antminer s2. Despite the shipping issues It works well. All parts are solid. AND well built. For ALOT less than the AMT miners were. The irony is the Antminer runs at 1.2 some of the time (usually 1056).

Hmm...  coppers shims should give enough spacing between the heatsink and the PCB. 

Also agree with you that there indeed is a gap between the PCB and the heatsink and it is questionable weather the termal paste is enough to bridge that gap.   Coppers shims are easily available on eBay.   

Can you point to some correct sized heat sinks for the other side?

604  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XCP] Counterparty Protocol, Client and Coin (built on Bitcoin) - Official on: May 19, 2014, 08:19:26 PM
Hey guys, is there a way to set up two factors of authentification to access Counterwallet?

Robby has this slated for future integration into Counterwallet. Not sure of the timeline.
Ok good to know it's planned.

For now I prefer to keep my XCP in my 2FA blockchain wallet because of this feature lacking.

I agree it would be a great feature to support. This will most likely require multisig inputs to properly implement, so that funds are held in 2-of-3 P2SH addresses, where the client has 2 keys -- one being a backup key only sent when the account is initially made -- and the server has 1. That is, unless someone has another way to properly do it (in a non client-side-only "fake" way that could just be bypassed through regenerating the BIP32 wallet elsewhere)..

We have a plan to add multisig inputs to Counterparty at some point in the future (Adam would be able to comment on the exact timeframe here.)

How will you add Multisig if you are need to use Multisig to encode the payload?

I was talking about adding support for multisig inputs (which right now is not supported). The data is encoded via multisig outputs.

Could you explain via an example?

I gather you need to have at least as 2 out of 3 to be able to do this.



You create a M-of-N (e.g. 2 of 3) multisig transaction that is actually a counterparty transaction to, say, transfer an asset from one address to another. The multisig inputs specify the 2-of-3 requirements, and the multisig outputs specify (i.e. embed) the counterparty issuance data. The inputs would just have the minimum multisig BTC amounts, with a normal fee going to the miners (i.e. overage between the inputs and outputs). As soon as the required parties sign the inputs, they are then 'spent' (thus, making the transaction active, and counterpartyd "seeing" it and adding it into its ledger)...before that event, the transaction is not yet recorded as an accomplished action on the counterparty ledger itself, but is in more of a pending state.

(Adam can correct me if I'm off on any of this, as it's more his area.)

If you do it as you describe, then the output will require 2 signatures and the counterparty payload.   So would that not mean again a change in the protocol?
605  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XCP] Counterparty Protocol, Client and Coin (built on Bitcoin) - Official on: May 19, 2014, 05:00:53 PM
Hey guys, is there a way to set up two factors of authentification to access Counterwallet?

Robby has this slated for future integration into Counterwallet. Not sure of the timeline.
Ok good to know it's planned.

For now I prefer to keep my XCP in my 2FA blockchain wallet because of this feature lacking.

I agree it would be a great feature to support. This will most likely require multisig inputs to properly implement, so that funds are held in 2-of-3 P2SH addresses, where the client has 2 keys -- one being a backup key only sent when the account is initially made -- and the server has 1. That is, unless someone has another way to properly do it (in a non client-side-only "fake" way that could just be bypassed through regenerating the BIP32 wallet elsewhere)..

We have a plan to add multisig inputs to Counterparty at some point in the future (Adam would be able to comment on the exact timeframe here.)

How will you add Multisig if you are need to use Multisig to encode the payload?

I was talking about adding support for multisig inputs (which right now is not supported). The data is encoded via multisig outputs.

Could you explain via an example?

I gather you need to have at least as 2 out of 3 to be able to do this.

606  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XCP] Counterparty Protocol, Client and Coin (built on Bitcoin) - Official on: May 19, 2014, 11:57:17 AM
Hey guys, is there a way to set up two factors of authentification to access Counterwallet?

Robby has this slated for future integration into Counterwallet. Not sure of the timeline.
Ok good to know it's planned.

For now I prefer to keep my XCP in my 2FA blockchain wallet because of this feature lacking.

I agree it would be a great feature to support. This will most likely require multisig inputs to properly implement, so that funds are held in 2-of-3 P2SH addresses, where the client has 2 keys -- one being a backup key only sent when the account is initially made -- and the server has 1. That is, unless someone has another way to properly do it (in a non client-side-only "fake" way that could just be bypassed through regenerating the BIP32 wallet elsewhere)..

We have a plan to add multisig inputs to Counterparty at some point in the future (Adam would be able to comment on the exact timeframe here.)

How will you add Multisig if you are need to use Multisig to encode the payload?
607  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Ixcoin TODO on: May 17, 2014, 05:28:48 PM


Friction,

I'm not sure what you were planning in regards to the special METAcoin, but I think it would be best if the Foundation did not issue its own coin:  We allow free markets [Laissez faire] to
decide which user defined coin will turn out to be the "special metacoin".

I think from a legal standpoint this is also the best option, for obvious reasons.

As I keep repeating.... there is no need for a special metacoin.

All that is needed is the technology be ported over for IXC and then we let people do whatever they want to do.
608  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XCP] Counterparty Protocol, Client and Coin (built on Bitcoin) - Official on: May 16, 2014, 09:23:56 PM
The Colored Coins protocol can only ever allow for two features: creating and sending virtual tokens. There isn't even the possibility of having a distributed exchange, much less any of Counterparty's other features.

Distributed exchange isn't a part of colored coin protocol, but it is possible to build a distributed exchange on top of colored coins protocol.

I have to ask this then.  How is CounterParty assets different from ColoredCoins?   How is the implementation different from ColoredCoins?   In both technologies, we stuff additional information either in OP_RETURN or in a multisig address.  However,  what is the difference in validating the information?
609  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: New Official AMT Thread on: May 16, 2014, 09:06:56 PM
Here is the A2 board for Innosilicon that has the same electrical characteristics at the A1:



I don't see any large capacitors near the A2 chips.

I just realized one difference though,  notice that it is clustered 4 at a time.   This may be hinting at an issue that the SPI daisy chain should be max 4 in lenght and not 8 as in the original specs.

610  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: New Official AMT Thread on: May 16, 2014, 07:40:54 PM
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The capacitors are there to mitigate against voltage spikes, but it is not entirely necessary.
Don't bet on it. At the clock frequencies the ASIC run at those spikes/dips can cause all kinds of havoc if not decoupled at the chip. Methinks that thinking is what got BM.ch into trouble in the first place. Power distribution at high switching speed loads is a very localized thing.

Okay... so if you think its a problem with switching speed... why don't we just plop in a slower oscillator?  You know,  just to see if it works.
611  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: New Official AMT Thread on: May 16, 2014, 07:36:44 PM
Anyone know anything about the GPIO daughter board?

Pin layouts on it?    

What I really don't get,  is that there's a reference board with layout and BOM.  Is it not obvious how to actually create a board for this?  All that's on the system is are A1 chips and a voltage regulator.  

Just string up 4-8 of these and you have your system.  The driver code for the PI is also available.

What the hell am I missing here?  How complicated can this get?

Not sure how well the reference boards work but if they do, then yes, just get a bunch and string'em up. Is what the Ant's do. Looking at their boards each is made from 4 identical sectors. Each sector even has it's own Vcore supply.

I assume that BM.ch just wanted a 'clean' design for the 8-chip boards. And blew it royaly.

I think they blew it because they didn't layout the board in a way that you can have large heatsinks!

Bitmine design have heatsinks only a little bit bigger than AMT.

It is not like the Technobit and Dragon design where the heat sink in much bigger.

Man... I really don't want to do electronics... but heck... is this not dirt simple?

BTW... Innosilicon A1 chips are going for $45 a piece.   The A2 is around $185 but use the same layout.

If anyone has got some minor experience in this,  we can layout a board and do our own manufacturing!!! Wee!
612  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: New Official AMT Thread on: May 16, 2014, 07:34:19 PM
Okay... so if there happen to be resistors and not capacitors that should be there... a temporary fix is just to remove the resistors.

The capacitors are there to mitigate against voltage spikes, but it is not entirely necessary.

613  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: New Official AMT Thread on: May 16, 2014, 07:28:48 PM
Anyone know anything about the GPIO daughter board?

Pin layouts on it?    

What I really don't get,  is that there's a reference board with layout and BOM.  Is it not obvious how to actually create a board for this?  All that's on the system is are A1 chips and a voltage regulator.  

Just string up 4-8 of these and you have your system.  The driver code for the PI is also available.

What the hell am I missing here?  How complicated can this get?
614  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: New Official AMT Thread on: May 16, 2014, 07:22:50 PM
Getting back to technical.....so is the issue with the cards blowing a hardware problem then? The traces shorting or some other component causing problems? I would presume a single chip blowing would still allow the rest of the card to function unless there was some kind of daisy chain that cuts the electrical flow.
We will have to hear back on whatever isawhim's idea is with the not-responding board. It does seem that some of the local decoupling caps are missing/erroneously changed with resistors.

You can't be serious here.
yes we are. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=569769.msg6754740#msg6754740
they are physically identical packages aside from the numbers on them. Someone screwed up badly there with what reel got loaded into the stuffing machine.

Those orange thingies...  I checked with digikey... http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/T520D337M006ATE010/399-9780-2-ND/3724870   those are capacitors.

Correct me if I'm wrong here... it's been over 20 years since I worked on this stuff.
615  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: New Official AMT Thread on: May 16, 2014, 07:12:51 PM
Getting back to technical.....so is the issue with the cards blowing a hardware problem then? The traces shorting or some other component causing problems? I would presume a single chip blowing would still allow the rest of the card to function unless there was some kind of daisy chain that cuts the electrical flow.
We will have to hear back on whatever isawhim's idea is with the not-responding board. It does seem that some of the local decoupling caps are missing/erroneously changed with resistors.

You can't be serious here.
616  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: New Official AMT Thread on: May 16, 2014, 07:08:26 PM
Getting back to technical.....so is the issue with the cards blowing a hardware problem then? The traces shorting or some other component causing problems? I would presume a single chip blowing would still allow the rest of the card to function unless there was some kind of daisy chain that cuts the electrical flow.

Oh.... I had thought the chips were daisy chained.   You mean they are not?  You mean we can individually remove chips from the board and it will still work?  

Is that correct?  

That is what I don't know. I know the cards are daisy chained on the backplane. But the chips on the card is what I am not sure of. Without any further info or documentation on the design we have no idea. I will need to take a closer look as I actually haven't. I probably will later after I get some time to sit down for a while and work on it.

Oh... the cards are daisy chained?  So if one card fails, the others don't work?

Anyway for chips,  read this:  http://bitmine.ch/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/CoinCraft-A1.pdf

and look at this wiring diagram:  https://github.com/bitmine-ch/bitmine

It looks to me like they are daisy chained.

BTW, anyone here done any PCB manufacturing and SMD reflow sodering?  You think we can have some of these dual boards created?
617  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: New Official AMT Thread on: May 16, 2014, 06:33:05 PM
Getting back to technical.....so is the issue with the cards blowing a hardware problem then? The traces shorting or some other component causing problems? I would presume a single chip blowing would still allow the rest of the card to function unless there was some kind of daisy chain that cuts the electrical flow.

Oh.... I had thought the chips were daisy chained.   You mean they are not?  You mean we can individually remove chips from the board and it will still work? 

Is that correct?   
618  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: New Official AMT Thread on: May 16, 2014, 06:23:44 PM
Looks like a couple of my comments got deleted. I was pretty pissed that day over the lack of replies and had a moment. Oh well. I get inconsistent responses anyway after trying to work with them. As an FYI AMT put an offer out to get me two new miners two replace the two fried ones I have. I have not seen or heard anything since that offer. I accepted it even. I don't have any word on status of this. But I have given up trying to communicate as I, like everyone else is getting nowhere.

Since they are deleting days old posts they might want to be aware that the mirror hosts these posts as well and those cannot be removed. Plus I have a record of the removed posts in my PM box so I can always repost them. I likely wont though as its not worth it and I was pissed off when I wrote those (not that it makes it any less wrong what I wrote). Anyway in spite of that I am still working to solve what could be a software problem with these miners not just for me but for others. It might benefit AMT (if they are still in business after the lawsuit) as well the work we are all doing here, but ultimately we are doing it for the people who got screwed with faulty hardware. Those of us all working to get the miners working at least are working together to help each other out. We are not likely to see any compensation from AMT for that effort anyway.

I still maintain they were legit but screwed up royally, but just had alot of bad situations and fucked up royally on the communication. But I figure its just shitty planning that got them here and allot of false assumptions and not keeping on top of regulations and things like that. I don't totally think they were looking to screw people over but the shitty planning that led them to this mess just got worse and worse and was unmanageable. I said from the start if they were able to just properly communicate and set proper expectations none of this would even be an issue. Sure the lawsuit would have happened likely anyway as they were dragging things out. But the first problem was lying (or misleading us) about expectations and dates. The truth would have been just fine. Hey guys we have problems with IMET, we also have problems with bitmine we are sorting out....compensation coming....that would have helped to some extent. But if the goal was to not give compensation this is why they are where they are at now.

Anyway thought I would comment on my deleted posts.

Crazy,  the only communication we get from AMT are 'deleted posts'.  I don't even know why they even bother to delete posts.    C'mon,  it is not like they have any reputation left to uphold.
619  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: ChromaWallet (colored coins): issue and trade private currencies/stocks/bonds/.. on: May 16, 2014, 06:19:17 PM
New build:

Linux 64-bit: http://killerstorm.xen.prgmr.com/alex/chromawallet-linux-x86_64-0.0.6.tbz

 * There is a history tab now.
 * It scans for received payments automatically in a background thread, there is no need to click 'Update', and it starts faster.
 * We use helloblock.io instead of blockchain.info because there were problems with blockchain.info. Also, helloblock.io works with testnet
 * Problem with invalid balances and things like that were solved. (Well, hopefully.) People who used older versions needs to run cw-cli full_rescan first
 * For now it simply trusts data it receives from helloblock.io. We already have 99% of SPV implementation, it will be present in the next version.
 * p2ptrade got several improvements, but might still be finnicky

Note: People who used older versions needs to run cw-cli full_rescan first.

Known issues: Old send and trade transactions will be displayed as 'unknown' in the history. We will address this later.

Some of problems which were reported by LOL were not fixed, particularly, it's possible to confuse it with 1-satoshi transaction, but it won't be in a permanently-stuck mode.

helloblock.io allows users to create and sign transactions?

so this implementation does not require the use of the bitcoind?

Why do you care about a SPV implementation of if you are using helloblock.io?  Can you explain?
620  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XCP] Counterparty Protocol, Client and Coin (built on Bitcoin) - Official on: May 16, 2014, 02:38:23 PM
Can someone compare Coinprism's implementation of colored coins through Open Access with Counterparty? Is there an advantage to using a proprietary currency, like XCP?

Also, what is Coinprism's revenue model? The wallet is free, so how are they making money?

Not sure.  But is the creation of new assets free?
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