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601  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How much is an Bitcoin option trader's salary? Is an affiliate more profitable? on: October 22, 2019, 09:55:21 AM
Traders has no fixed income and I believe their earnings are not consistent due to different factors and sometimes they tend to lose more than they earn.

It depends on whether you work for a firm or not. In that case you mostly have a basis salary, where you can add to that through bonuses and whatnot.

In the end, the most successful traders end up leaving their firm because the experience they built up throughout the years allows them to make much more on their own than to enrich a firm, and you are not subjected to a lot of contractual terms where you can't do x/y/z as long as you trade for them.

The cool thing about Bitcoin and crypto in general is the fact that you can be your own boss, trade currencies that allow you to also be your own bank, and make a pretty penny out of it. Once decentralized exchanges become more streamlined, liquid, have proper matching engines, etc you only need a computer and an internet connection. How cool is that?  Smiley
602  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Binance vs Coinbase Pro | Which one is better? on: October 22, 2019, 09:18:09 AM
A better 'con' for Binance is that they're in a sort of gray area in terms of regulations; hence Binance has different versions(e.g. Binance(international), Binance Jersey, Binance US).

That grey area is tightening every month that goes by, where the end result will be that a whole lot of no-kyc users will be trapped inside Binance's ecosystem. The only way out is to hand over Binance your ID and whatnot, but after what happened with their third party kyc desk, I'm not sure if that's smart to do.

I'm sure that Binance has taken some extra security measures, but nothing guarantees you that they don't still use a kyc desk somewhere in India or other third world country.

I put much more confidence in Coinbase in that regard, and they haven't ever been hacked as far as I'm aware of, and they are less likely to hire a third party kyc desk.
603  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2019-10-19] With 18 Million Bitcoins Mined, How Hard Is That 21 Million Limit? on: October 21, 2019, 10:06:54 PM
But I don't think it's a very reliable way of determining the amount that is irretrievably lost, many have no reason to move their coins. I can take myself as an example, let's say I bought 1BTC back in 2015, and did not move it from then - is that lost coin?

Not reliable at all. It reminds me of a situation where I'm not exactly sure if it was this or last year, but there was an address with thousands of coins in it that people assumed were lost due to years of inactivity, but it turned out to be one of Coinbase's older cold wallet addresses.

All these 'x million lost Bitcoins' clickbait headlines are the result of news outlets trying to spin up a narrative to convince people of how scarce Bitcoin is. I don't even consider satoshi's coins to be lost. It may very well be that he is THE holder of last resort. Waiting for the day Bitcoin becomes a reserve currency and he directly the wealthiest entity in the world.

It is that the bcash fork made me move my cold wallet holdings in 2017, but if there was no fork, I today would have had a few cold wallets with 5 years of inactivity, and they would remain inactive until the price of Bitcoin hits $100,000.

Also don't forget the funded 2011/2012 casascius coins that news outlets are blatantly blending into their total number of "lost" Bitcoin. Currently there are 3 active 1000BTC coins, which according to "research" of news outlets are lost too.  Roll Eyes
604  Economy / Speculation / Re: BULL VS BEAR on: October 21, 2019, 09:34:14 PM
I think they manipulate the market when they have to, like when price went from $10k to $7.7k last month that was manipulation if you ask me, however after the price dropped to $7.7k then they didn't had to manipulate.

No one is manipulating the market. It's just the fact that the market has turned full bearish, which automatically translates into inherently bearish formations to have an even higher tendency of breaking down. 

There also isn't a central group that manipulates Bitcoin. If there was, that group would have a damn hard time steering the market into a direction that directly trades against the rest of the market. If we fall down like we have in the last couple of weeks, it's just an indication of lower demand. No point in blaming manipulators that aren't there.

What goes up hard must come down hard, which is something that Bitcoin is reminding people of almost every single year. Nothing new.

It reminds me of my gaming time where noobs called you a cheater if you beat them fair and square. Grow a thicker skin and get to understand this market better.
605  Economy / Speculation / Re: Speculating with Tom Lee on: October 21, 2019, 09:09:52 PM
I speculate that Tom Lee is aware of this. I speculate that Tom Lee is buying.

I hope for him that your speculations are wrong. Tom Lee's model of analyzing this whole market is flawed to its core, so if he put any money where his mouth was/is, he is probably close to broke, or at least, those who entrusted their funds to him lost a lot of money.

One would expect him to quit after being wrong so many times, but it seems that he is waiting for a new bull run to initiate so that there are fresh suckers to fall victim to his flawed understanding of the crypto market. People did better countering his predictions than to follow them, lol. Fundstrat has become Fundrat.
606  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Warning ! Bittrex shutting down in 31 countries. Withdraw your funds. on: October 21, 2019, 11:05:01 AM
What gives an exchange, based in Malta, the right to discriminate millions of people based on country of origin. Many maybe not even live in those countries anymore, but their supplied IDs (ie. Passport) binds them back. This is yet more reason why KYC/AMC is so evil, and how it lets companies discriminate on arbitrary whims.

On what grounds do the people of these countries deserve such discrimination?

This is outrageous, and i suggest everyone protest and boycott them. Where does this end? If you have any money trapped in Bittrex, take it out before your turn comes. I wonder how much will they steal from those who couldn't get the message in time, because they are in vacation or whatever. Its until 29th, less than 10 days...

It might sound harsh, but they don't owe anyone an explanation for any of their actions. Bittrex has turned full shite long ago, so them clearly articulating what and when they are introducing these changes is quite nice of them. It just goes to show how retarded this space has become with how people signed up to their exchange regardless of the thousands of complaints and whatnot.

This crap exchange closed my account that I registered in 2013 after PROMISING to people that legacy accounts will not be as severely affected. Outcome is that they blocked my account.
607  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Binance Earns More Than $20,000 per Day Overcharging on Transaction Fees on: October 21, 2019, 10:38:00 AM
If enough community goes to protest, there could potentially be changes made.

Meh. You sign up to a service with such withdrawal fees. It's not that they forced high withdrawal fees upon their users, unless they out of nothing increased their fees, then the story is different. In Binance's case, they haven't increased their fees so there really isn't much to complain about.

For the liquidity that they offer, and the wide variety of coin pairs, 0.0005BTC in fees isn't even that high. On top of that, whenever the network goes through some severe congestion again (which increases the fees for every user of Bitcoin), Binance got you covered with that 0.0005BTC fee.

Even when the on-chain fees jump above 0.0005BTC I'm sure they won't increase their fees immediately because the profits they generate from trading easily covers their withdrawal expenses.
608  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: 4 reasons why Bitcoin has bottomed out on: October 21, 2019, 10:14:05 AM
Still a decent price to be dollar cost averaging and accumulating in anticipation for a future move upwards.
Still? It's a fantastic time to dollar cost average! Every lower price you buy at means more satoshis that you can scoop up. I can assure you that dollar cost averaging feels MUCH better on the way down than on the way up. It's the only time where fiat is gaining purchasing power, so why not utilize it to the best of your ability before that opportunity is gone again?  Tongue

At the very least, we are making higher lows at the moment on the daily, though not by very much.
Also lower highs, which means that the range within the price can freely move will tighten and lead to a larger breakout.
609  Economy / Economics / Re: Fear of Facebook spurs Federal Reserve to build its own digital currency on: October 21, 2019, 09:26:41 AM
Interesting how fear can also drive this powerful institution now to act in a different way.

Not really that surprising. Facebook isn't a private entity that just drops a new payment protocol and suddenly the whole world is using it.

Facebook is a company that has to abide by every single regulation of each jurisdication they plan to operate in. This is where Bitcoin obviously shines, because there are no rules to abide by. It's truly borderless, near impossible to curb down on, and there is no entity behind it that profits from its existence such as how Facebook profits from Libra's existence.

I like the fact how Libra has made some high level politicians almost hype up Bitcoin to trash talk Libra.  Cheesy
610  Economy / Economics / Re: Central Bank: If The Entire System Collapses, Gold Will Be Needed To Start Over on: October 21, 2019, 09:05:58 AM
I think they'll withdraw their gold before the collapse unless they're too stupid to do that.

Their first mistake was to distribute their Gold geographically. Their second mistake will be when their request to have the Gold withdrawn be denied.

I'm pretty certain that we're already at a point where countries are afraid to request their Gold to be withdrawn, because that indicates distrust and you don't know how the other side is going to react to that. In that regard, they rather continue with the promise of owning x amount of Gold, where they can sell that promise to another sucker entity in the worst case.

I'm sure there are a lot of economical factors that play a role of importance too, because you can somewhat force other countries to not walk over you because you own a certain percentage of their Gold reserves. The more Gold you allow to be withdrawn, the more you put yourself in a disadvantageous position.
611  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2019-10-20] HTC Launches Exodus 1S, First Phone That Can Run a Full BTC Node on: October 20, 2019, 10:50:39 PM
I rather wait for full node clients to become less taxing on the specifications of my device than to go by what a corporation wants me to use.

I don't want to follow HTC's "truth" of the network state which can change at any time, but go with what thousands of unbiased nodes confirm as truth, which I have been doing for nearly two years now with my full nodes. I'm pretty certain that every person running a node thinks that way. HTC creates a potential attack surface if the owners of the devices don't have the freedom to make any changes.
612  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Hackers targeting Tor on: October 20, 2019, 10:14:50 PM
I find it embarrassing, and am myself feeling increasingly embarrassed as time goes on.

Most people use computers at the same level a child can teach itself to do, simply by watching and imitating. While these people watch their cat videos, I'm trying to learn basic computer science that (at it's core) hasn't changed much since the 1970's, and people are still using the crappy 1980's sub-par clone (i.e. windows) of the 1970's model.

Meanwhile, others apparently still haven't learned the basic rule number zero of the internet; if it's a popup, don't fucking click anywhere except on the close button, especially if it tells you 'click here or you'll die'. I learned that in the first month or so when the internet was still new. seriously ffs

I totally get your frustration. To some extent we can blame governments for not triggering people to become more aware of proper internet etiquette, but on the other hand, it's in their best interest to not educate people to the point where they become smart enough to take proper security measures enough so that they don't fall victim to phishing, viruses, etc.

The more untaught people are, the easier it is for governments to exploit vulnerabilities in their operating systems or hardware to retain a certain level of surveillance, which hackers obviously will be able to exploit too. If you aren't curious enough to explore various fields of interests that play a big role in today's society, which the internet is a huge part of, then you're basically fucked.

This is a major reason why the mass adoption of Bitcoin will probably take decades. It also translates into wealth inequality because the dumb will end up being as poor as they have always been, where the smart money and those who are technically adapted will be the new elite.
613  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Xcoins.com - Buy Bitcoin with Credit Card & Debit Card Instantly! on: October 20, 2019, 08:14:38 PM
We’ll send your Bitcoin within 15 minutes of payment approval or your next transaction is Fee FREE!

Does this mean you'll send a transaction with enough fee so that it will get one confirmation within the next 15 minutes, or you'll send the tx with whatever fee it is within the next 15 minutes?

As a customer, I'd love it if it's the first one.

All it means is that this exchange will broadcast your withdrawal within 15 minutes. If they fail, your next withdrawal is free, which basically means that it can go on endlessly until they actually broadcast your withdrawal. Tongue

This is such a lame exchange statement. Definitely not something I would expect from an exchange with 250,000 customers (OP's claim).

Just broadcast your withdrawals right away, or state that you are batching withdrawals so it can take a bit longer because you're waiting for more people to request a withdrawal. Or even better, offer people the option to choose between instant (slightly more expensive) single withdrawals, or batched (slightly cheaper) withdrawals.
614  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Poloniex Withdrawal Complete "Transaction ID not Found" on: October 20, 2019, 07:39:47 PM
Question is why would they delay broadcasting the TX IDs? Security measure perhaps?

It really sucks especially if someone is trying to make a quick withdraw.

It could have several reasons, but what I think it comes down to is Poloniex trying to wait for the right moment to broadcast its transactions so it can cut down on fees significantly. If you process thousands upon thousands of withdrawals on a daily basis, it becomes quite an interesting way of increasing your operational profits without doing much.

I know some traders who use Poloniex quite regularly, and they have to deal with mixed withdrawal times, and there seems to be a correlation between them broadcasting transactions and low overall number of unconfirmed transactions.
615  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Curious about this OKEx Place on: October 20, 2019, 05:30:59 PM
So cut into the cheese,
From my experience with Binance, bitmex and OKEX, i come up with the following analysis.

Binance:
Good - the OG of crypto exchanges, wide range of trading pairs, relatively reliable.
Bad - suffer from security issue

OKEX:
Good - lots of promotions, airdrops, relatively cheap fees, wide range of products
Bad - too many promotions!

Bitmex:
Good -  high risk high return derivatives
Bad - price manipulation

My two cents about the 'bad' that you specified;

Binance; They did suffer from security problems, but they are fixed. Any new security problems that may occur are just as much of a risk on other platforms.

OKEx; It's a crappy Tether wash trading exchange. Too many promotions is the last "problem" to worry about when using them.

Bitmex; I do agree that there is an increased incentive for the exchange to manipulate the prices and front run orders of other traders because of their in-house trading bots.

I personally would never use or recommend anyone to use OKEx because they are just a shady exchange. BTI report about wash trading can be found here.
616  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Top Cryptocurrency Exchanges on: October 20, 2019, 05:16:15 PM
Then my one friend suggest me an exchanger called propersix exchanger. You don't believe that it's transaction speed is 6000 pts. And it's also secured for it's using technology. It use the latest Blockchain technology.  

6000 transactions per second is actually quite low. I'm pretty sure a crappy exchange such as Yobit can handle that without any problems.

Binance last year upgraded its platform to handle 1 million transactions per second, so how about that? I'm pretty sure that most of the other competent platforms can do at least 100,000 transactions per second. This is the advantage of centralized exchanges that work with a database infractructure. Using blockchain technology is just a convenient way to slow yourself down a lot.
617  Economy / Economics / Re: Central Bank: If The Entire System Collapses, Gold Will Be Needed To Start Over on: October 19, 2019, 10:47:34 PM
I'm no economist but if the system does collapse, then it is very likely that countries would go back to the gold standard, which was the system before the Americans managed to muscle their way. And it'll likely stay that way until a different currency becomes the reserve.

It's quite difficult to have something so precious as Gold to become the standard of money again, and even if it turns out to happen one day, it's not going to last long before we're subjected to the same shananigans of endless money creation, debt, inflation, etc. As long as the same governments are responsible for creation and regulation of monetary policies, we're not going to move forward at all.

I like that with Bitcoin we don't have to wait for a new monetary system, it's here already and we're using it. Yes, it's priced against the us dollar, but so what? It works exceptionally well and it provides an indication of value, which is extremely hard to do when you start from scratch.

Another problem is that governments going back to the Gold standard will never be able to fully back every single unit because a lot of their Gold is stored in other countries. Not your keys not your Bitcoin is similar to not your physical Gold = you have no Gold. They're way better off hoarding Bitcoin because it's much easier to store. You can store trillions of dollars worth of Bitcoin in a $90 Ledger Nano hardware wallet.  Tongue
618  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Hackers targeting Tor on: October 19, 2019, 10:15:02 PM
Here is an example of how hackers could mislead you with another update from the software you are using if there is any vulnerability and here is the prime example. Electrum vulnerability

That was quite shocking for a lot of people. One doesn't expect that the legitimate application they downloaded from the main source forwards popups indicating that people should install an update which later turns out to make them lose all their funds. I truly hope that it made people so paranoid, that they will never have to go through that ever again.

I was already aware of similar tricks with other software applications, so I never click links or follow instructions as indicated by the popup, but visit the site myself and if needed download the actual software from there. I have to admit myself that being so paranoid is quite exhausting because every application needs to be verified and whatnot, but it's all worth it in the end.

It's also a reminder that crypto as a whole in no shape is even remotely close to mass adoption of common joe type of people.  Undecided
619  Economy / Speculation / Re: What do you guys think about the death cross ? on: October 19, 2019, 08:31:50 PM
What I will be interested in knowing will be how low the price will go and how long will this bear season last but as far as I know that is not possible to do.

That's what moving averages are for in my opinion. It's obviously not bullet proof, but what is?

If we're above the 200MA on the daily, we're generally quite bullish and vice versa when we're below that moving average. Currently we're hovering below the 200MA on the daily, where one more dump will make me shift to the weekly time frame to reassess the market. The 200MA on the daily is ~$8800 while the weekly 200MA is gearing towards ~$4700 as we speak.

Back in 2018 and 2019 we had a bounce off the 200WMA twice which ended up being the perfect bottom to buy. It's important to state that between 2016 and now we have never had a weekly close below the 200WMA, so it should tell you something about how important it is for long term trend recognition.

We're currently far above the 200WMA, so the longer we consolidate above that moving average we're going to get a higher floor even when we move sideways for a whole year.
620  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Holders Protection on: October 19, 2019, 08:01:06 PM
If people need protection from volatility, there are futures contracts exactly for that. They are if you are confident about a certain deal, and you can win or lose depending on what really happens at that point in the future, but at least you know what to expect.

That's certainly true, but what we don't have is a regulated platform at which people can safely do so. There is CME, but the minimum order is a 5BTC contract, and you don't actually get any Bitcoin at all since everything is cash settled. This is exactly why I like that we have a platform such as Bakkt now, where people as time goes by can enter very easily and they can get actual Bitcoin delivered.

1BTC contracts may still be quite steep for a lot of people, but at least it provides some variety and much needed legal recognition, and who knows, if the demand really picks up, Bakkt may introduce smaller contract sizes.
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