Lots of kids hopping from AMD to Nvidia. Wonder what changed in the last two weeks.
pls don't call miners who have been in the business since 2009 - kids...thats not polite  if someone would call me a kid, i would be pleased.  I got ZOTAC mini 1060 6gb because it was a great deal and it fits into a PC enclosure plus I wanted to try NVIDIA for a change. So far, i am impressed. apart from this, the rest of my rigs are on AMD. |
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I was told 180 day warranty was coming.
I would consider this as good news only if I can send the warranty item to a US-based location. Paying $120 to send a board to China or much more than this to send the whole miner makes no sense (to me). In such context 90 vs 180 days is largely irrelevant. |
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I know something...bitcoin should separate itself from the chinese nonsense by employing non-ASIC POW ASAP.
Every time some leading bureaucrat in Beijing farts too loud, his underlings scuttle around looking for action.
This has got to stop, otherwise people will gravitate toward more westernized currencies like eth, monero and zec.
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re these ^^^ thoughts, EDIT: which are now deleted, so the rest does not make much sense anymore
sticks project is to raise money for BF stuff, this has been articulated plenty.
If you don't want sticks, that's fine.
Would I be too much out of line to suggest that those who buy 2Pac sticks might be considered first in line (so to speak) for boards or any other BF products, otherwise some people are just piggybacking, essentially?
The decision is with sidehack, I just voice my 2c.
On the other hand, if we will have a gazillion of these things (BF), the whole thing is a tempest in a teapot.
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Any chance of a few blocks in the bank before I sell my S9?? Please!! ..and they were saying that you are just S9-teasing them all.. let me guess...ebay? it is something to watch, really... On a more somber note, people are trying to "play" this pool. I noticed that hashrate paradoxically disappears after we hit a couple, then comes back if we are going a day without. Can it work? I seriously doubt it. |
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470 / 480 are the best choices currently.
If you've got cheap electricity you could also take a look to the Fury which is selling @ 260 usd on newegg and mining @ ~ 380 sol/s on ZEC makes it quite interesting.
However these don't perform as well on CN or ethhash so you have to rely on ZEC exclusively.
I also thought that 470/480 are the best, but you can get 1060 for $200 and it does 260-270h/s in ZEC and 22mh in eth and you can get a smaller (one fan) short unit, which is relevant for a minority who use PCs instead of large rigs. |
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apparently, people like waiting at a rate of about $300/mo loss in revenue, then pay $70 extra due to bitmain's unique pricing.
Oh, well.
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Can't get them anywhere less than $3000
Most interestingly, the price is the same $2995+$10 shipping for 11.85, 13, 13.5 and 14Th-check for yourself at Amazon. ebay is even higher-up to $3500. Ridiculous, but reminds me of early winter in 2014 when KnC stopped selling Jupiters and people were paying up to 12-14K/used miner. |
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Consider that is what it took to make people choose to move out of bitcoin. How fast do we think that capital is going to come back once the party is over. I would hate to be short at that point  Economic crashes are inevitable as a long term perspective as it happened to EVERY fast growing economy: US in 1929-1933 and 2007-2009 Japan in 1989-2009 (they spread it over 20 years to reduce the pain!) Korea, etc (Asia) in 1997 Russia in 1998, 2008 and 2014 China would need to purge it's bad debts, mostly corporate, like US did during the Great Depression. |
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sounds like every other 'ban' that turned out to be a central bank telling the people not to come crying to them if it all turns to shit. that's enough to get some juicy falls though. i think a panda farting would be enough when it comes to china.
I am surprised that China's nomenklatura continues to mess around with an asset where they have a strong lead (both manufacturing and trading). This might cause side effects that will be not beneficial to them. |
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The 2013 rise started actually from about $110.
Did you actually looked at the relevant chart? BTC started year 2013 from $13 or so. First peak in April at $266, then bottomed at around $70 during summer. $110 is an artificial time point to start. |
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To all the TA experts out there (masterluc, RyNinDaCleM, chainsaw, chessnut, and the many others I am leaving out!), I am wondering whether it makes sense to talk about the time frame that a given trader is working in, in the context of a single trade.
- When trading, do you consciously pick a timeframe? i.e. do you pick a candlestick time interval and stick with it for the duration of the trade?
- Suppose a trader makes a buy based on a pattern in the hourly charts, but then makes a sell based on a pattern based in the 5-minute charts. (Or vice versa). Would that be considered poor practice? Would it be evidence of an undisciplined trader? Or would you encourage a trader to look at multiple timeframes within a single trade? Or does it matter one way or another?
TA does not work (mostly), otherwise all TA experts would be insanely rich already which is typically not the case. If that is the case then would it be valid to say that all those authors who wrote all the books about technical analysis are scamming the trading newbies like us into thinking that we too can be winners in trading only if we learn it? When I say "they are scamming us" what I mean is that those authors know that what they are writing about does not really work. probably not, but it does not make TA a science, just another voodoo, basically, of postfactum explanation for the events that already happened. TA has very little predictive value, otherwise everyone using it would be rich in opposite to other investors who would be poor, as I said before. TA tries to explain what happened from a certain point of view plus provide future probabilistic analysis and look for some patterns, that's all. explain from the TA perspective why first bitcoin bubble stopped at $32, second at $266 and third at 1165? Impossible. |
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To all the TA experts out there (masterluc, RyNinDaCleM, chainsaw, chessnut, and the many others I am leaving out!), I am wondering whether it makes sense to talk about the time frame that a given trader is working in, in the context of a single trade.
- When trading, do you consciously pick a timeframe? i.e. do you pick a candlestick time interval and stick with it for the duration of the trade?
- Suppose a trader makes a buy based on a pattern in the hourly charts, but then makes a sell based on a pattern based in the 5-minute charts. (Or vice versa). Would that be considered poor practice? Would it be evidence of an undisciplined trader? Or would you encourage a trader to look at multiple timeframes within a single trade? Or does it matter one way or another?
TA does not work (mostly), otherwise all TA experts would be insanely rich already which is typically not the case. |
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someone sold a crapload of btc at 4am est at $903 according to bitcoinwisdom.com
Just a downward spike for a moment.
Was a precursor.
Great part about that is they can only do that once:). It was bound to correct soon anyway. Was up up and away awefully fast BR Exactly. Not like gold ETF's , they can sell paper gold all day. actually, they CAN using margin and/or futures. bitfinex has 10X and 20x leverage on some bitcoin positions I get it that there is some difference, but it would be reduced even further when COIN ETF starts trading. |
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Kano does a luck report regularly to find block withholders - they show up as making no blocks at all over an extended period when they should have made some (it's random so you can't detect it until they've been hashing many blocks' worth). He reports it here regularly though I'm not sure everyone understands the implications of the report. The S9 batch 1 across all miners as you see above by now should have found 110 blocks based on the total hashes they've submitted to this pool but have so far only found 82. This is by far worse than any other device that we can positively identify. We can only speculate why this is, but the batch 1 firmware also had some other stratum extension that was never working on any pools so it was removed in later firmware. It is possible there is some kind of bug in the original firmware.
This is why he was urging everyone with S9s that was still on v1 firmware to upgrade. I'm aware that you lose some kind of frequency control or fan control or something by upgrading but that's nowhere near as bad as (potentially) losing blocks.
As for whether other pools are affected, we can only report accurately what happens here, and only speculate what is happening on other pools based on people grumbling about bad luck on almost every other pool thread. It certainly looks like global luck has been down across all pools since the S9 came out, but I can't say anything for certain.
it is not that simple (re upgrade). New firmware does not work quite well on old (non-autotuned) miners, at least for me. I tried and miners overheated. realistic choice is to point S9 v1 miners to other pools and that's what people probably did and Phil mentioned this. Personally, i think that pushing this proposition might result in a loss of much hashing power of your pool, but it is your playground, you make the rules. re statistics, wasn't that 68-70 vs 100 expected before? If so, then more recent blocks are 12 vs 10 expected. I would like some specialist analyze all of it. Can organofcorti take a look at all of this? Many people would be interested. In clinical trials data based on a subset that was not initially established usually turns out to be a false signal, but who really knows here. |
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Ah, got it, aluminum will be fine.
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Since he'll be getting custom boards anyway I'll be sending him some with sweet black soldermask to match his German-made original Compacs.
Germany's official flag colors are black, red and yellow in that order, plus black is popular in clothes, so I see that. My question is: can we here in US have something special re our colors, like red or blue. 2Pac-red or 2Pac-blue (or both), if it is doable, maybe with few extra $? Could be quite nifty, unless it is too late (maybe sink at least?). |
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Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that S9s aren't a steaming pile of bovine dung; I'm saying that, dung or not, they pay the bills better than the current alternatives.
Not if they're not finding blocks... I am not sure how to interpret this from a practical point of view. do other pools have the same phenomenon? What about slush's or other non-bitmain associated pools? If they do-I will subscribe to this argument of "poison" S9 v1 If they don't-? |
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ATH = $1242 @ Mt Gox
You cannot count that BS price on Mt Gox when they were ALREADY insolvent and did not payout $$ withdrawals, hence btc price on that exchange was constantly $100 higher since smart people were converting all fiat currencies on MtGox to btc, then withdrawing btc. It is hard to determine when exactly Mt.Gox become completely insolvent and from which point we should assume Bitcoin's high price was totally caused by their faulty system. Hence, for the time being - lets accept that $1242 as ATH for future reference. $1242 price on an exchange that did not already allowed for $$ withdrawals? No way, it is illegitimate as an established price point, therefore $1163 or whatever on bitstamp is fine..and huobi price is a faker too, whatever this means. |
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