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6081  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 05, 2013, 11:10:10 AM
How much was dumped?

aprox: 30k on Gox, 27k on Stamp, 50k on BTChina

just around $100MM only on those three exchanges Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

...pigs getting slaughtered

So whales saw the chance in news to cause panic and pushed the price a little bit and put bids to catch cheap coins?

That would be a gamble. Making a positive news feel negative by manipulated first reaction and then hope that there'll be a stampede. Very well executed if true. Besides in China you really have to have the coins to cause anything like that. Other excahnges followed like sheep...
6082  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 05, 2013, 11:05:28 AM
Ok sheep-boy, this drop hasn't even started yet, the ramifications of this will lower the price for weeks to come. Bitcoin could essentially loose 50% of its customer base if China cracks down on it.

A) No crack-down happening, so the factual content of the news is not negative, even to the opposite.

B) Changes in customer base and esp. the number of coins do not happen so fast.

C) I think the support in $800 held very well, and am not too concerned about it being broken when the pigs wake up and decide to cash out their coins in the following hours. The midterm you don't ever know about the Chinese - a bear market there will put a dampener to growth here (as selling pressure makes spread go negative and coins flow back to the west, dampening any rally attempt).

D) December trendtarget is only at $400 so it is entirely possible to retrace all the way there. It just does not feel like that to me now.

E) The situation is both a good time to sell for those who have contemplated selling + a good time to buy for those who are adding up. Let the trades continue! Smiley
6083  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 05, 2013, 08:54:56 AM
Bitstamp under $1000 now. Lame

Hardly. Good chance to nab another couple coins.

Looks like China's ticker is still bleeding red

Bitcoinity for china is  lagging, actual bottom 4750, now 4900 ($803)
6084  Economy / Economics / Re: rpietila public diary -- Episode II on: December 04, 2013, 10:52:45 PM
I have received 180mBTC from an anonymous donor to be used in the same manner.
6085  Economy / Speculation / Re: Rally from $500 happened on very low volume, crash looming? on: December 04, 2013, 07:36:37 PM
The crash from 266->50 was more than 75%, so I think the magnitude will decrease but -75% remains very much of a possibility (after a real rally of course).

For now, I think $0.8 is the floor so I adviced the newcomers to buy because they will not likely gain much by waiting.
6086  Economy / Economics / Re: rpietila public diary -- Episode II on: December 04, 2013, 07:34:37 PM
I will attend to this matter asap. Thank you.
6087  Economy / Speculation / Re: Rally from $500 happened on very low volume, crash looming? on: December 04, 2013, 01:46:51 PM
Where is your buy target? $500?

If so, it is good to remember that $500 was first time ever breached in any exchange 17 days ago. That is so long that surely it will not happen ever again Wink (Yes I know everybody was considering it an insanely high price back then, as well as $400 a few days before)

My decision to go back to the bull camp was after the last weekend crash, because it seems that sentiment could not be damaged by whatever crooked tricks some pulled from their hats and wallets, and the most the price could crash was -30%, and China barely budged.

The article may be right at most in the blind chicken -level, because he seems to have no understanding in bitcoin fundamentals and therefore all his data is wrong.

I don't have a buy target per say, but I will judge the momentum of the drop and adjust my buy-in accordingly. I use QT-Trader bot with various rules so when I'm satisfied we have passed a figure that would net me a nice amount of coins I will enable the rule and buy everything below a certain price. With recent events in mind, I would be pleased with anything below $700, and very pleased below $600.

I just arranged the tea leaves such that the probability of a crash to anything below $800 is so small that it makes more sense to buy in now with the funds that were speculatively sold. So in total I bought about BTC225 this week, the speculative position was never so big really. So now I'm fine if it goes up or stays, but even if the drop to $500 happens, I get to buy back + keep the castle in Estonia. Not bad, except the part to buy back the short at higher prices. And even that I played solidly, bitcoin was stronger, but hate to admit that trolls were right. Smiley

Trolls: you realize how many millions you have lost by your bad decision to not buy bitcoin with strong funds when you first saw it?? Wink
6088  Economy / Speculation / Re: There is already 1000 Bitcoin Millionaires in the world - effects on price on: December 04, 2013, 01:23:11 PM
I also think that since litecoins are a ridiculous noninnovation, BTC people should really stop being so smug and move on to mBTC.

It is a shame to be beaten by ltc!
6089  Economy / Economics / Re: Distribution of bitcoin wealth by owner on: December 04, 2013, 01:21:35 PM
"Wealth that is earned, increases happiness of the earner. Wealth that is received, does not."
6090  Economy / Speculation / Re: Rally from $500 happened on very low volume, crash looming? on: December 04, 2013, 01:19:13 PM
Where is your buy target? $500?

If so, it is good to remember that $500 was first time ever breached in any exchange 17 days ago. That is so long that surely it will not happen ever again Wink (Yes I know everybody was considering it an insanely high price back then, as well as $400 a few days before)

My decision to go back to the bull camp was after the last weekend crash, because it seems that sentiment could not be damaged by whatever crooked tricks some pulled from their hats and wallets, and the most the price could crash was -30%, and China barely budged.

The article may be right at most in the blind chicken -level, because he seems to have no understanding in bitcoin fundamentals and therefore all his data is wrong.

6091  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 04, 2013, 12:33:09 PM
I think it's time to switch to uBTC  Grin

I've been wondering whether satoshi actually makes most sense to most of the people in the world. Make the transaction once and for all.

Interesting observation is that 1 lakh satoshi = 1 mBTC

1 bitcoin is already well known and will continue to be the unit of account of the rich.

For those aiming to get by, 1 satoshi will be worth about $0.01-$0.10 soon, and is a very practical unit, as well as the multiples k and M. No need to deal with decimals.
6092  Economy / Speculation / Re: Rally from $500 happened on very low volume, crash looming? on: December 04, 2013, 11:50:00 AM
What do you mean

There is very much logic in my writings, but in order to follow it, you have to spend 30 minutes per day just by following and thinking about me. Because most people are unwilling to do it, they only get a part of the message, and it is dangerous to act upon incomplete logic.

Just haven't found a way to do it any other way  Tongue Even if I write very perfect guides on all things Bitcoin, I cannot make people follow every aspect of them, and the result will be in their hand anyway.

I actually started reading ALL your posts 2 days ago. And doing some background checks on you.

Cool! I have a website registered on my name, but the blog format imho is not as good as a forum. I will perhaps still put it online in comments-disabled mode where I (my editor) polish the threads/articles from this forum in the easily digestible mode. I mean, this forum is very organic food but therefore contains also joints, sinews, bones and whatnot. Wink

In addition is my thinktank group, which has several interested people but is not organized yet.

Also my supernode has been disabled since May, but when that comes back online, oh boy  Cool
6093  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: December 04, 2013, 10:30:15 AM
excuse me, the system saw the threat of the Hunts unmasking their charade and changed the rules mid battle

Ridiculous to even think that the Hunts were instrumental in anything of substance.
6094  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: December 04, 2013, 10:27:27 AM
Trolls try to extract the silver short squeeze masterplan from me. I am not about to tell it, so I had to ignore the trolls.

Is there any way to unsubscribe the thread?
6095  Economy / Speculation / Re: There is already 1000 Bitcoin Millionaires in the world - effects on price on: December 04, 2013, 10:23:50 AM
Perhaps next year will also see the rise of the Supernode.

$1.4/mBTC.
6096  Economy / Speculation / Re: Rally from $500 happened on very low volume, crash looming? on: December 04, 2013, 09:52:09 AM
What do you mean

There is very much logic in my writings, but in order to follow it, you have to spend 30 minutes per day just by following and thinking about me. Because most people are unwilling to do it, they only get a part of the message, and it is dangerous to act upon incomplete logic.

Just haven't found a way to do it any other way  Tongue Even if I write very perfect guides on all things Bitcoin, I cannot make people follow every aspect of them, and the result will be in their hand anyway.
6097  Economy / Economics / Re: Please Read!! Help Stop This Madness. on: December 04, 2013, 09:47:04 AM
If you still want to support your donation address, how about sending a good sum of money to yourself through intermediaries? Smiley
6098  Economy / Economics / Re: rpietila public diary -- Episode II on: December 04, 2013, 09:37:56 AM
Do you mean a donation that can be used to provide those items for an entire community or do you mean allocated to one extended family "clan" who lost their home?

It is not that much, really. I think give it to someone trustable who has the need and ability to put the money in good use for the benefit of people in his immediate neighborhood (however you call it). If he is personally not the most needy, he should consider who is and give the money or supplies.

I don't need thank you pictures, but hundreds of people read this thread. So some of them may be in the position to give a few mBTC after hearing the report that the initial donation reached the recipient and has been converted to roof tiles, pots and pans, or food Smiley

I am getting interested! Of course it is more hassle for the donor, but also at least 10x more timely help for the needy!
6099  Other / Off-topic / Re: Bitcoin TOP-500 Richest on: December 03, 2013, 11:52:10 PM
Anarcho-capitalist "Karl Gray" (producer of the documentary life on bitcoin) has accumulated 100,000 BTC

http://rt.com/shows/keiser-report/episode-526-max-keiser-025/ (14:55)

Yes and apparently he is a member of these forums (though what is his username? No one knows)

What does he gain by not revealing his identity here (if he is a public person anyway)?
6100  Economy / Speculation / Re: Rally from $500 happened on very low volume, crash looming? on: December 03, 2013, 11:50:18 PM
Sorry for me, because the flashcrash buyback was about $820, and I sold at $672, therefore lost money on that trade irrevocably.

Sorry for those who do not understand that a strong sell with bitcoin means to sell 30% of your holdings and a weak sell is 10% (as opposed to stocks where sell means sell all, and strong sell is go short).
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