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December 05, 2013, 10:46:40 AM
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Please explain to me how I purchase a market order and specify the bitcoin amount if I don't know what the price is going to be.


You don't. You place a limit order. If you really just want to buy or sell at any price, set your price absurdly high or low. Otherwise, set some sane max or min price and know you won't get shafted due to slippage.
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December 05, 2013, 10:48:33 AM
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If that's it, it's extremely bullish. Holding my breath...
Welcome to the new world of BTC trading.

About an eighth of what was dumped will take it to an ATH.
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December 05, 2013, 10:50:05 AM
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How much was dumped?
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December 05, 2013, 10:50:40 AM
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Bears back to caves. I bought on localbitcoins in the UK near the (hopefully) bottom.

Ok sheep-boy, this drop hasn't even started yet, the ramifications of this will lower the price for weeks to come. Bitcoin could essentially loose 50% of its customer base if China cracks down on it.


Sigh... China isn't cracking down on it. Read a translation rather than just going by what random people tell you this means for Bitcoin.

I've read it, this is not bullish, you cant see your nose because your big dumb horns are in the way. Dude seriously stop talking shit and realize that bitcoin just had a massive blow to one of its largest client bases.
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December 05, 2013, 10:51:34 AM
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Please explain to me how I purchase a market order and specify the bitcoin amount if I don't know what the price is going to be.


You don't. You place a limit order. If you really just want to buy or sell at any price, set your price absurdly high or low. Otherwise, set some sane max or min price and know you won't get shafted due to slippage.
True. But gox is lagging so you can't tell where the price is. I tried to set limit orders for half an hour. I was screwed by gox's shitty fecal engine.
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December 05, 2013, 10:52:13 AM
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I've read it, this is not bullish, you cant see your nose because your big dumb horns are in the way. Dude seriously stop talking shit and realize that bitcoin just had a massive blow to one of its largest client bases.
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Preventing financial institutions from using bitcoin is a hit. But you are a perpetual bear!
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December 05, 2013, 10:54:02 AM
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Bears back to caves. I bought on localbitcoins in the UK near the (hopefully) bottom.

Ok sheep-boy, this drop hasn't even started yet, the ramifications of this will lower the price for weeks to come. Bitcoin could essentially loose 50% of its customer base if China cracks down on it.


Sigh... China isn't cracking down on it. Read a translation rather than just going by what random people tell you this means for Bitcoin.

I've read it, this is not bullish, you cant see your nose because your big dumb horns are in the way. Dude seriously stop talking shit and realize that bitcoin just had a massive blow to one of its largest client bases.
So does it mean that BTCChina must close?
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December 05, 2013, 10:54:09 AM
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Bears back to caves. I bought on localbitcoins in the UK near the (hopefully) bottom.

Ok sheep-boy, this drop hasn't even started yet, the ramifications of this will lower the price for weeks to come. Bitcoin could essentially loose 50% of its customer base if China cracks down on it.


Sigh... China isn't cracking down on it. Read a translation rather than just going by what random people tell you this means for Bitcoin.

I've read it, this is not bullish, you cant see your nose because your big dumb horns are in the way. Dude seriously stop talking shit and realize that bitcoin just had a massive blow to one of its largest client bases.
Sooooo the Chinese government making a statement explicitly allowing its citizens to trade in Bitcoin as they would in gold or silver is apparently a "massive blow" to bitcoin?

Lol. All the panic selling is by westerners who simply don't understand the news. At worst, this news means literally nothing for Bitcoin, and at best it'll result in a steep price climb once people actually comprehend the news from China.
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December 05, 2013, 10:54:40 AM
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I've read it, this is not bullish, you cant see your nose because your big dumb horns are in the way. Dude seriously stop talking shit and realize that bitcoin just had a massive blow to one of its largest client bases.

Preventing financial institutions from using bitcoin is a hit. But you are a perpetual bear!
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Im not a perpetual bear dude, I'm just a realistic bitcoin observer, I called this China crash weeks ago in this very thread and was laughed at. I believe bitcoin will hit 1mill per coin one day so im not just being negative for the sake of it. But you have to open your eyes and accept the fact the price can go both up and down at any time, otherwise your not an investor, your a dreaming idiot.
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December 05, 2013, 10:55:23 AM
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Bears back to caves. I bought on localbitcoins in the UK near the (hopefully) bottom.

Ok sheep-boy, this drop hasn't even started yet, the ramifications of this will lower the price for weeks to come. Bitcoin could essentially loose 50% of its customer base if China cracks down on it.


Sigh... China isn't cracking down on it. Read a translation rather than just going by what random people tell you this means for Bitcoin.

I've read it, this is not bullish, you cant see your nose because your big dumb horns are in the way. Dude seriously stop talking shit and realize that bitcoin just had a massive blow to one of its largest client bases.
So does it mean that BTCChina must close?

From the reddit post I linked, a Chinese person commented:

"This means major Chinese bitcoin exchanges like BTCChina will stay. You just won't see any Chinese bitcoin >ETF anytime soon."
http://en.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1s5ckc/first_official_document_from_chinese_government/cdu381s
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December 05, 2013, 10:56:15 AM
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ok guys calm down the whole story is covered now at coindesk, there is no bad thing about the statement people are just panicking because of the media bad coverage which is nothing new

read the full article here http://www.coindesk.com/price-crashes-china-outlaws-bitcoin-financial-institutions/


the price of bitcoin fell over $300 this morning after China’s central bank warned financial institutions to steer clear of the digital currency.

According to the bank, it doesn’t consider bitcoin a threat to China’s financial system, but it does believe the digital currency carries risks.

“The concern is that it interferes with normal monetary policy operation,” Hao Hong, head of China research at Bocom International Holdings Co. in Hong Kong, told Bloomberg.

“It represents an unofficial leakage to the current monetary system and trades globally. It is difficult to regulate and could be used for money laundering. I think the central bank is right to make this move,” he added.

The central bank justified its position by stating that its goal is to prevent money laundering and other risks associated with bitcoin. Aside from the warning, the bank has stated that it will require all trading platforms that trade in virtual currencies to register with authorities.

While the central bank is telling the nation’s banks not to deal with bitcoin, it said individuals are free to buy, sell and use bitcoin, if they wish, but they must take on the risk themselves.

On a positive note, the bank didn’t ban trading platforms, such as BTC China, from dealing with bitcoin and other digital currencies, it merely said these companies have to register with authorities.

Although the bank clearly stated that it will allow individuals to freely use bitcoin, the announcement has already caused a massive price drop on several exchanges, namely BTC China. In heavy volume trading earlier this morning bitcoin lost roughly ten percent of its value in a matter of hours.

The opening price on BTC China was 7,005 CNY, but it quickly shed more than 10 percent, with the lowest bid coming in at 4521 CNY. At press time the latest price on CoinDesk’s Bitcoin Price Index was $889.01, with a daily change of -22.5 percent, or $257.23.

Although the total value of bitcoins in circulation is dwarfed by national currencies, Chinese authorities seem to be taking the issue very seriously. Many Chinese citizens are investing their savings in bitcoin and some even argue they are basically hoarding the currency. This also represents a risk in terms of price fluctuations, as many speculators have no qualms about leaving the market at the first sign of trouble.

The latest government notice effectively prohibits financial institutions and payment institutions to place bitcoin prices on products or services. They cannot be involved indirectly, either. They are barred from providing bitcoin related services, such as registration, trading or clearing. Moreover the decision to introduce compulsory registration could have a far reaching impact on China-based trading platforms.

The notice mandates all trading platforms to register and it also brings up the potential use of China’s anti-money laundering legislative framework to identify all customers and suspicious transactions. The notice states that the measure will “effectively prevent money laundering associated with bitcoin.”

The notice went on to state that bitcoin is not legal tender and that it is “specific form of virtual goods” without a clear legal status and monetary equivalent. It described bitcoin and other virtual currencies as a potential risk to the public interest and the Renminbi, due to excessive speculation. It also called on authorities to do more to educate the public about virtual currencies in order to provide them with a better understanding of such currencies and the risks associated with them.

The central bank also stressed that it will continue to pay close attention to bitcoin price fluctuations in the future.

Stay tuned for more updates to this story.
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December 05, 2013, 10:58:12 AM
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BREAKING: CHINA BANNING BITCOIN IS ACTUALLY GOOD NEWS
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December 05, 2013, 10:58:26 AM
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Please explain to me how I purchase a market order and specify the bitcoin amount if I don't know what the price is going to be.

Market orders on MtGox during panics are...contraindicated.

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December 05, 2013, 10:58:51 AM
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Interesting to see the LTC/BTC ratio holding on surprisingly well to all this hype.
When BTC gets back to 1200 - 1300 (today ?  Roll Eyes ), some people will have actually benefited from all this if they just held.

LTC was appreciating by % more against BTC than the dollar yesterday, been buying more this morning - it did not crash as much as BTC (on BTC-e).

It seems to be getting away with the 'If BTC is gold, LTC is silver' tag.

At 0.035 ish, I think it's a buy.   BTC will rally back up and at the very least LTC does not like losing against BTC, so it is no a stupid thing to do.

You really ought to look at the BTC/LTC historical charts.

When there was a mere rumor that some Gox / China will implement LTC trading, people jumped on it and its value rose to ~$50 from ~$10.
Some days after that, all the good GPU cards were sold out throughout Europe. All of them.
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December 05, 2013, 10:58:59 AM
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How much was dumped?

aprox: 30k on Gox, 27k on Stamp, 50k on BTChina

just around $100MM only on those three exchanges Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

...pigs getting slaughtered
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December 05, 2013, 10:59:32 AM
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It's not over yet it seems... China going further down.
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December 05, 2013, 10:59:41 AM
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Bears back to caves. I bought on localbitcoins in the UK near the (hopefully) bottom.

Ok sheep-boy, this drop hasn't even started yet, the ramifications of this will lower the price for weeks to come. Bitcoin could essentially loose 50% of its customer base if China cracks down on it.


Sigh... China isn't cracking down on it. Read a translation rather than just going by what random people tell you this means for Bitcoin.

I've read it, this is not bullish, you cant see your nose because your big dumb horns are in the way. Dude seriously stop talking shit and realize that bitcoin just had a massive blow to one of its largest client bases.
So does it mean that BTCChina must close?

From the reddit post I linked, a Chinese person commented:

"This means major Chinese bitcoin exchanges like BTCChina will stay. You just won't see any Chinese bitcoin >ETF anytime soon."
http://en.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1s5ckc/first_official_document_from_chinese_government/cdu381s

So this is good for common chinese folks, but not good for big chinese corps who want to invest, why is government doing something that is not good for big corps? This is not common in western world that's for sure. How is chinese government going to profit from this, from common folk?
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December 05, 2013, 11:00:30 AM
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How much was dumped?

aprox: 30k on Gox, 27k on Stamp, 50k on BTChina

just around $100MM only on those three exchanges Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

...pigs getting slaughtered

So whales saw the chance in news to cause panic and pushed the price a little bit and put bids to catch cheap coins?
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December 05, 2013, 11:01:50 AM
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Wait a second.
Is this just the chinese version of the senate hearings, with almost the same (positiv) outcome but with none getting it because of google-translate-FU?
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