At this point we could have approached the community with what we were doing and asked the community to fund it, but this would have created a good deal of uncertainty in the market. Instead, I funded the purchase of Dashcoin out of my own pocket, which cost a substantial amount of money.
You are so generous Eduffield. After more than 2 millions DRK mined in few days, we need to thank you very much for such a generosity. thank you for your kind words sir edit : i knew you had it in you.. just keep them coming please, those kind words |
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According to CCN bitcoin hit $300 today but I can't see it on any charts.
EDIT: Looks like finex.
yep, $303.96 |
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Dash is a good idea from the main dev of darkcoin. With Dash, he Wash the instamine story of darkcoin. http://dash.com/i guess your following this thread with such great interest because you are worried yr coin will have to change name too, totally understandable. |
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- I like the approach of dropping "coin" from the name.
- I think a stronger & better name/brand then "DASH" could have been choosen.
(Dont ask for examples, as I did no research which names/letter-combinations would be avaible & meaningful.)
- DASH is ok. Maybe a "good" choice vs. other crypto currencies with their weird names. Still the name is far away from "very good" or "perfect".
Digital cash/darkcash is ''very good'' in my eye's Dash will be an suffixe only on exchange Digital Cash, the DC of fast private transactions |
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One similar case to ours is OpenBazaar. The software was released at a Toronto hackathlon by Amir Taaki and a few others. It was called DarkMarket. One developer, Brian Hoffman, soon renamed it (he also forked from the original, but there was no development on the DarkMarket repository, so it is effectively a rebranding exercise). He's said many times he did that to avoid the negative press. Very shortly he got a lot attention and people contributing. Most of those people probably would have not showed up if he had kept the old name. Please consider too the positive aspect of being able to recruit among people who were not comfortable being associated with dark.
In our case, we have lost Vertoe along the way and pissed off a few people I respect, which I deeply lament. But this has happened mostly because we did the discussion process wrong, not because changing the name is a bad idea.
i had some time to cool off after that little bomb went off yesterday and i admit that some good points were given for a rebranding, which means i changed my view about rebranding from rather against it to pretty much torn about it (to be honest i think i will always feel conflicted about this topic). And yes, i do agree about the discussion process being wrong which both hurt and upset a lot of people in both here and in the dev team but whats done is done, lets not allow ourself to get divided about this as a community. Instead let us look forward and find out what awaits us, according otoh's cards a bold and dashing adventure awaits us  ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=615879.0) qwizzie |
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we also have the most wonderfull trolls gathered here .. its really a sensational feeling meeting them all in one place. they range from the very low skilled troll (see post above) to the very high skilled troll btw : i'm selling anti-troll shields for a discount right now, get them while they are hot  |
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What happened to the wall on bitfinex, did it get dumped on or did he pull it?
Vertoe sold into it. How do you know who sold? He doesnt, he just needs someone to blame  Feel free to blame me, everyone, yeah this is all my fault. Darkcoin r.i.p. long live dash. I'm out, so long, and thanks for all the fish. sorry to see you go, you did some really outstanding work in Github. I cant believe it has come to this.. good luck. |
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Blame Vertoe for selling part/all of her/his/its stash.
No, i blame the very very poor communication both internal (dev team) and external (towards community) . |
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With the discussion of the rebranding has the use of medium channels also been discussed by the dev team ?
(in particular if we are still continueing on this specific bitcointalk forum?)
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No troll, just wondering. Are you guys buying XMR?
not really, are you ? No, have enough. But polo... you could have warned us btw, i guess you were worried you could not prevent this. Doomed to see the future and unable to prevent it |
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Minotaur26 & Fernando : thanks for your replies by the way
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No troll, just wondering. Are you guys buying XMR?
not really, are you ? |
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lol, comparing the name to washing deterigent is as stupid as comparing Apple to the fruit. It's the product(s) and service(s) underneath the brand that actually matter.
Well, for English native speakers, "apple" the fruit and "Apple" the company might sound the same, but the washing detergent is called "Dash" globally. Also notice the capitalization: Dash the washing detergent and Dash the currency vs. apple the fruit and Apple the company Apple is called Apple globally, what's your argument? My point is: - Apple is a global brand owned by Apple Inc. apple is an English noun for a certain type of fruit. - Dash is a global brand owned by Procter & Gamble. When Darkcoin wants to be the global brand named "Dash", there will be be at least some confusion. Also, the point of my post was to make a different suggestion, namely D-Cash. It makes for nicer wordplay (D-Day!) and is very hard to mis-interpret It is hard to make the claim that the general public will in any way confuse a laundry detergent for a cryptocurrency. Also, there are numerous other uses of the mark DASH which haven't been contested by P&G. We consulted with attorneys to ensure that we are able to rebrand this crypto to DASH without issue. We've taken the initial steps towards a rebrand, but there is still much more to do. I should bring up a situation that I came across which highlights the need for a rebrand. I was at recently at a dinner with the CEO of Expresscoin (whom added Darkcoin months ago as per my suggestion). He directly informed me that he'd been getting pressure from his investors to drop Darkcoin as they were worried about the legal scrutiny it could bring Expresscoin. I asked him to hold off for a bit before doing anything as there would be some announcements made, to which he agreed. So as you can see, Darkcoins problems are a lot like racism. You show up for endless interviews and everyone seems nice but you can't understand why you never get hired. Evan has done a fantastic job of pushing out features which are important to users and will clearly lead to consumer adoption. The problem is that this is meaningless if there is little to no adoption on the merchant side. A rebrand helps balance this issue. With a rebrand we can reach out to industries that previously wouldn't consider using Darkcoin due to the fact that Dark is often associated with something sinister. A good example of this is the medicinal marijuana industry. They have massive problems because MMJ is illegal on a federal level but not on the state level. As a result, banks are completely unwilling to work with them. This industry is desperate for a solution and using crypto / DASH should be an easy sell, creating a HUGE opportunity for us. However, consider this: As a dispensary whom already has considerable legal scrutiny, would you be willing to take a risk and start doing business using a cryptocurrency named Darkcoin? This shows how important the brand is, and how we really need to consider what is on the horizon and where we want to go from here. questions : those investors that now shy away from Darkcoin due to its often association with ''something sinister'' and due to the worried legal scrutiny it could bring from authorities .. wouldnt that also apply to Darkcoin's core function : the mixing of inputs so tracing will be extremely difficult? What if we indeed change the name to DASH only to find out its really our core function (darksend) thats causing investors to shy away from Darkcoin ? By then we will have lost a great deal of name regnonition and will find ourself in a position struggling for marketcap with all those other altcoin's (all those 100's of altcoins ... who are already ahead with name regnonition). All reference to "Dark" will need to be changed, that includes "Dark"send and the ticker "DRK" but doesnt it still be something sinister even if we change Darksend to DASH Send .. because of the mixing going on ? in other words : are they perhaps publicly saying they find the name riskfull but its actually the core function (Darksend mixing)
that they feel could get them under legal scrutiny ?
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lol, comparing the name to washing deterigent is as stupid as comparing Apple to the fruit. It's the product(s) and service(s) underneath the brand that actually matter.
Well, for English native speakers, "apple" the fruit and "Apple" the company might sound the same, but the washing detergent is called "Dash" globally. Also notice the capitalization: Dash the washing detergent and Dash the currency vs. apple the fruit and Apple the company Apple is called Apple globally, what's your argument? My point is: - Apple is a global brand owned by Apple Inc. apple is an English noun for a certain type of fruit. - Dash is a global brand owned by Procter & Gamble. When Darkcoin wants to be the global brand named "Dash", there will be be at least some confusion. Also, the point of my post was to make a different suggestion, namely D-Cash. It makes for nicer wordplay (D-Day!) and is very hard to mis-interpret It is hard to make the claim that the general public will in any way confuse a laundry detergent for a cryptocurrency. Also, there are numerous other uses of the mark DASH which haven't been contested by P&G. We consulted with attorneys to ensure that we are able to rebrand this crypto to DASH without issue. We've taken the initial steps towards a rebrand, but there is still much more to do. I should bring up a situation that I came across which highlights the need for a rebrand. I was at recently at a dinner with the CEO of Expresscoin (whom added Darkcoin months ago as per my suggestion). He directly informed me that he'd been getting pressure from his investors to drop Darkcoin as they were worried about the legal scrutiny it could bring Expresscoin. I asked him to hold off for a bit before doing anything as there would be some announcements made, to which he agreed. So as you can see, Darkcoins problems are a lot like racism. You show up for endless interviews and everyone seems nice but you can't understand why you never get hired. Evan has done a fantastic job of pushing out features which are important to users and will clearly lead to consumer adoption. The problem is that this is meaningless if there is little to no adoption on the merchant side. A rebrand helps balance this issue. With a rebrand we can reach out to industries that previously wouldn't consider using Darkcoin due to the fact that Dark is often associated with something sinister. A good example of this is the medicinal marijuana industry. They have massive problems because MMJ is illegal on a federal level but not on the state level. As a result, banks are completely unwilling to work with them. This industry is desperate for a solution and using crypto / DASH should be an easy sell, creating a HUGE opportunity for us. However, consider this: As a dispensary whom already has considerable legal scrutiny, would you be willing to take a risk and start doing business using a cryptocurrency named Darkcoin? This shows how important the brand is, and how we really need to consider what is on the horizon and where we want to go from here. questions : those investors that now shy away from Darkcoin due to its often association with ''something sinister'' and due to the worried legal scrutiny it could bring from authorities .. wouldnt that also apply to Darkcoin's core function : the mixing of inputs so tracing will be extremely difficult? What if we indeed change the name to DASH only to find out its really our core function (darksend) thats causing investors to shy away from Darkcoin ? By then we will have lost a great deal of name regnonition and will find ourself in a position struggling for marketcap with all those other altcoin's (all those 100's of altcoins ... who are already ahead with name regnonition). |
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It is that time again for a branding discussion, or is Evan trolling? we are discussing it, but appearently its getting implemented as we speak I vote for otohcoin  sorry, voting not allowed Don't be so silly: Open wallet > Send DRK to Exchange > Sell eh, dont you mean DSH? |
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It is that time again for a branding discussion, or is Evan trolling? we are discussing it, but appearently its getting implemented as we speak I vote for otohcoin sorry, voting not allowed .. which is both good and bad if you look at it. |
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It is that time again for a branding discussion, or is Evan trolling? we are discussing it, but appearently its getting implemented as we speak |
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With something this important as the rebranding of the name it should have been discussed at least with the dev team internally,
now not only the community was hit with this unexspected news but also the dev team.
If the dev team is divided about this already, how do you exspect the community to stand as one man behind it ?
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As I said before the brand Dash is like an empty container that we will fill with the ideals of the product, it is more flexible, so we can take it in the direction we choose too.
This is a good property of the name as it is not explicit like Darkcoin, in time Dash will acquire its own meaning, a meaning that better reflects the vision we are building.
At this point in time is hard to see that, precisely because it is a blank canvas it does not suggest any particular meaning, just like Google or Nike would not really be anything without the products and marketing behind them. There is no need to name a shoe company Darkshoe or Bitshoe, Adidas is just fine, brands reside in the mind of people and they need to be built, a name is not enough, we will do well with Dash.
It is a monosyllable and we can use the full name as the ticker: DASH
what about the guy that just bought those beautiful paintings  they obviously need to be repainted Or they just went up in value yeah, they can become very rare now... |
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