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6161  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: FREE Tipster Competition 1 BTC Prizes - sponsored by directbet.eu - LIVE BOARD on: August 23, 2015, 08:49:52 PM
Just a few hours after the opening there has been lots of action here. As of expected from ndnhc 42 bet slips already ( this guy is always good with gambling and such ). If you are reading this post DirectBet, would be nice if we can bet for the winner of this competition as well ( putting my money on ndnhc to be top three if he is available to bet on  Tongue )
6162  Economy / Gambling / Re: COINROYALE.COM 2.0 • New Design • Provably Fair • 1 BTC Bonus • Max Bet Doubled! on: August 22, 2015, 09:01:36 PM
after long play cards repeat

It would be nice if you would read the few older post before posting this again. Just because the cards repeat doesnt mean something fishy is going on , simply just note down the hashes before you play and verify it after you play ( which obviously takes less than 10 seconds to do so ). However it is quite unlike for the exact same cards for both dealer and player to be dealt again ( the 4 first card could be the same however the next one after that would obviously be different )
6163  Economy / Economics / Re: Low BTC price is good for Bitcoins at the moment. on: August 22, 2015, 08:29:02 PM
but there is literally no way how to convince them.

Sad truth , this happened to me as well

believe or not, but if somebody was interested at 1200 and "missed the boat", he bought as much as he was able at 500-600 range and didn't wait until now.

The other sad fact is that not everyone are going to hold their BTC which they bought at higher range with the current dropping range. Few weeks ago due to the greece hype, the price was over $300 but now it is settling in $230~ and I would assume that some has sold their BTC to minimalize some of their lost ( now imagine that there will be alot more that sell some of their stash when they bought at $500+  )

What is more important? Price movements,both up and down, or price stability?

Depends on what your point of view is, for a mere trader then this waves would be the important thing to get some profit but if you are setting your point of view from the side of mass adoption the price stability is one of the key factor to achieve that. Due note that most people loves gold because of its stability as mass is afraid of "holding" a thing which price might change every day
6164  Economy / Gambling / Re: Did someone already tried SafeDICE investment ? on: August 22, 2015, 07:59:51 PM
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Hello, thank you for your anser

No problem

It's not really an other kind of gambling, because in gambling the probability to lose if you continue untill "the end" is nearly 100%, here it's is nearly 0%.

It is indeed another form of gambling. To be exact you can call it "EV+ gambling" . Although there is "no chance" for you to lose because you are siding with the house and that gives you the edge over the player (theoretically , if there isnt any foul play ) but some variance could kick in and the house could be losing . In the long run, the house will recover only if there are some people that wager there ( and ofcourse lose )

I know you must have enough bankroll

Im not  Smiley

test it with 0.01 BTC and i will see

Goodluck !
6165  Economy / Gambling / Re: COINROYALE.COM 2.0 • New Design • Provably Fair • 1 BTC Bonus • Max Bet Doubled! on: August 22, 2015, 07:15:51 PM

Obviously nope, why would I be shilling here? If you are a regular here then you would obviously know which site that I support  Wink

now you are misrepresenting what we have stated. 

Which? Obviously I put in references based on your post. If you think I am misrepresenting it then simply make your post clearer ( which I think Im not )

Only a schill would make such ignorant comments.

Very funny, just because someone is not in the same boat with your opinion doesnt mean that the person is a shill  Wink. Not ignorant comments but simply against everything of yours

Also I have made my stance clear here as I will see how things turns out

References :
Im eager to see how this turns out  Smiley

If we have a statistical edge and consistency lose after playing a statistically significant number of games then it could be a problem with the game. 

Yes and correct but you have repeated this few times already and I am aware of this. Now you leave the important part of my previous post

References :
If you will enlighten the conversation here, how many percentage of edge are we discussing about?

Obviously disclosing this will not give you any disadvantages as Im not asking on how you get it but merely the number for it  Smiley

We have asked fair questions about the shuffle that is suppose to be easy to follow and have not received any answers.

Obviously it is a fault from CoinRoyale and out of my league, so this has nothing to do with me

I have not put the numbers out because the raw data provided makes or very difficult to analyze what occurred in each hand. 

Numbers? are you merely pointing this "numbers" to the edge that you are claiming or that I missed something else? If this "numbers" actually refers to the edge that we are discussing about then it is safe to assume that

"you had no idea about how many edge that you have due to this bug but keep insisting that you got the edge? "

P.S : Again, not a shill comment whatsoever just merely interested with this "numbers"  Wink
6166  Economy / Gambling / Re: COINWON.COM/DICE NEW SITE FREE 0.01 BITCOIN WELCOME on: August 22, 2015, 07:03:05 PM
the site is already dead at his first day Shocked i think XD

One should never expect anything from a site that uses a coindice script. The moment that someone open a dice site with coindice script then the person has started to dig a grave for the site. A custom script still has a hard time to get some market due to the older dice site presence which then makes you think what can someone do with a common coindice script

P.S : Mind my opinion as I am always skeptical towards a dice site with coindice script

i think he lost -15 btc  Cool

Perhaps , or could be a glitch
6167  Economy / Gambling / Re: COINROYALE.COM 2.0 • New Design • Provably Fair • 1 BTC Bonus • Max Bet Doubled! on: August 22, 2015, 06:44:17 PM
1- Obviously you are not understanding correctly

Obviously it is you that is not

Last point, we do not care about the bug.

It seems you do , based on the references below that you keep on insisting that there is a bug that give an edge to the player but you are getting more losses then wins. If you simply dont care about this then there is no point in discussing this further isnt it? but the fact is that you keep insisting that there is a "problem" .

If you will enlighten the conversation here, how many percentage of edge are we discussing about? Either way there will be two scenarios later , the former will be that there is an issue with CoinRoyale shuffling method and the later is that there is no bug that you give you an edge . I am merely more into the later option though Im eager to see how this turns out  Smiley

References :

We are simply saying that we know of a bug that gives us an edge and even after playing 15,000 hands we are not winning even close to half of the time. 
6168  Economy / Gambling / Re: Did someone already tried SafeDICE investment ? on: August 22, 2015, 05:35:48 PM
did someone already tried to invest in Safedice ?

Yes I had (not anymore )

Is it safe ?

Nothing is safe. The truth is that investment in a gambling site is just another form of "gambling". Instead of gambling against the house, you are gambling with the house against the player to lose. Your profit will be depending on your stake of the entire bankroll which means that you share the profit and the loss of the site proportional to it which incase there are one or two lucky player to win huge there then you are losing a portion of your investment as well

Due note that there are alot of risk regarding "investment", not to mention that the operator might steal the funds (obviously you dont know who is behind the site )or that play as a player to drain the bankroll

P.S : so far there isnt any complaint regarding the investment there ( Im not vouching , Im stating the fact so do not quote me on this as a vouch )

For more references : http://dicesites.com/safedice
6169  Economy / Gambling / Re: ★ Crypto-Games.net | DICE | 1st anniversary | JACKPOT! |Faucet up to 0.205mBTC ★ on: August 21, 2015, 08:23:57 PM
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Let's say  that someone wants to initiate a trade with me. He might check my trust feedback and when sees a negative feedback, he might hesitate a bit.


His rating pretty much wont affect any of your trade as his rating is about crypto-games.net which to my knowledge you are not the owner of crypto-games.net . Moreover, having a negative trust does not mean that you will have no ability to trade or that none would want to trade with you because as long as you use escrow then everything will just be fine

He has no right no leave negative feedback for no reason

Trust isnt moderated and anyone could leave feedback to whoever at his own will

I still consider that as a trust abuse

If it is so then take this case to meta though there is nothing to be done even if you take it there.
6170  Economy / Gambling / Re: ★ Crypto-Games.net | DICE | 1st anniversary | JACKPOT! |Faucet up to 0.205mBTC ★ on: August 21, 2015, 05:04:55 PM
Abusing trust system.

The fact is that trust isnt moderated and you will have to leave it as it is or deal with him to remove it. Plus that you cant call him abusing it because he is not in the Default trust list and his trust feedback pretty much wont make any impact to your account. Suggestion for you would be to leave it as it is though ( I even got mine as well from some butthurt user )

P.S : Besides that he seems to misspell the site's domain
6171  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why do people still play dice? on: August 21, 2015, 04:30:38 PM
We talk about consistency here.

Consistency? dont even think about it. Either you win or lose that is all but if you keep on betting like nuts then you are indeed a degens

You can't earn your living with gambling money.

Alot has proven this to be not impossible

Hint : use google to search

waiting for some tips(if ever had)  in chatroom from player who won a lot..

You need to differentiate between a gambler and a beggar

People don't gamble for fun, people gamble for wins. Period! And dice is indeed the best of giving the gamblers the impression they can use magical formula, weird variations of martingale

This isnt right at all. formula/ strategies or whatever isnt only applicable in dice though you can always try to use it in any other game. The bolded part is correct though as most people gamble only to win therefore the simplest form of gambling would be dice which is fast and no suspense whatsoever
6172  Economy / Gambling / Re: MoneyPot.com :: The bitcoin gambling wallet on: August 21, 2015, 03:10:19 PM
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Well, I was talking in relative amount and you seem to be talking in absolute amounts. Smiley
Technically, I assume a % of the bankroll is worth the same to everyone. Practically, for someone who invested ~115BTC who is aware of the risk doesn't qualify to be the most suffered from my point of view.

Ahh okay then It is just a misunderstanding then as both points are correct because of the 1x kelly so everyone bear the same amount of risk depending on their stake of the bankroll. If we are merely discussing about the amounts then Ryan is indeed suffering the most because of the highest stake  Smiley.

I tried the locking investment feature, first invested 1 bit, locked it, but when I invest another bit, it gets locked too??

So when the funds are locked, one can invest more but can't divest?


The lock feature is kinda funny . I just locked myself out for 1 day without investing anything and it seems yes that you can invest while being locked but just cant divest for the X period of time

(which AFAICT it does, the maths seems fine and there's no evidence of any foul play)

It seems this one got a very nice luck then

MoneyPot itself is running under no-commission until the investor profit reaches 50 BTC again (which looks like it could a long, bumpy road). 

It could be months to achieve this unless some other player like luthic wager at Moneypot but then the "luck factor" need to shift back to the investor



At the time Im writing this, another whale is betting huge in sharp dice currently (3.1 BTC profit )

https://www.moneypot.com/users/johnny1985
6173  Economy / Gambling / Re: MoneyPot.com :: The bitcoin gambling wallet on: August 21, 2015, 11:51:38 AM
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Nah, I meant even if you consider that, Ryan is still not the most "suffered".

What about the other investors of the remaining 70%? Was considering that aspect.

Not sure what you mean though but If you are grouping the other 70 % investor as a whole then yes the whole pack suffered alot more but I based my opinion on each single investor so yes individually as an investor, Ryan suffered the most because of him having the biggest stake though  Smiley

Moreover as we are discussing about investor here, some live action in dustdice at the moment. Luthic came back and just lost another 5 BTC . It seems variance is slowly shifting to the investor again  Cheesy

Code:
Site Bankroll: 331,130,613.84 bits
Wagered against bankroll: 13,721,277,010.85 bits
Investor Profit: -4,637,892.66 bits

P.S : mind my stupidity sometimes I cant think clearly it seems lol
6174  Economy / Gambling / Re: BetterBets.io |Up to 6.8 BTC weekly rake+VIP| DICE★PLINKO★HORSE RACING on: August 21, 2015, 11:40:19 AM
No one hit this 5.5 btc yet? I'm shocked after last week run.

So far none yet. The last week run was pretty much interesting and shocking at the same time. Goodthing that this extra BTC for wagering promotions will last indefinitely or until someone hit it so there is actually no rush for it. The 5.5 BTC is merely 27.5 % rakeback from the wagered amount ( which is huge if you are wager alot )

P.S : I havent seen you lately Dank, are you playing with an unknown new account now?  Cheesy

Current max payout per bet is now 3.74 BTC

It is now 3.27 BTC . Player Luthic won huge at Moneypot  Cheesy

-snip-

Notified and has told lobos regarding this, perhaps you can PM him your alt account there so he can do some check up
6175  Economy / Gambling / Re: MoneyPot.com :: The bitcoin gambling wallet on: August 21, 2015, 11:36:54 AM
Due to this circumstances it seems Ryan will keep on sacrificing his moneypot's share of profit back to the investor until everyone back to green again ( was the previous promotions from Ryan over) (?) Too bad but Ryan is the one that suffer the most because of this huge win though , plus that this luthic guy is betting for max win which means there isnt any share of profit for Moneypot

One or two variance is pretty much needed here as there hasnt been any huge winner yet in Moneypot and with investor's profit taking a huge dip down then this is a good time to "gamble" in investment as the variance might soon shift again to the investor's side ( or that luthic could come back to dip more of this  Cheesy )

or it will bite him for sure.

or he can win more Tongue . He got some pretty nice luck though

LOL, both theoretically and practically it is the investors who is taking the hit most.

Ryan is sacrificing his share, but he is only setting off the investor's loss which is the most hit.

Yep the investors, in this case it will be Ryan as he has over 30 % of the bankroll stake though as I told you before he is the biggest investor there. So practically he suffer the most here due to this crazy luck by luthic Wink ( Im merely stating Ryan as investor and not Moneypot's owner in my previous post and I should have made it clearer to avoid confusion I think  Wink. Although I personally think this huge lost of the investor is something good for promotional purposes as people are always crazy about success story in a gambling site which is pretty rare nowadays

It does make sense to sacrifice short term profit for long term growth (and profit).

Pretty much agree with you on this  Smiley
6176  Economy / Gambling / Re: DaDice.com - Next Gen Social Gambling Dice Experience | Progressive Jackpot on: August 21, 2015, 11:11:47 AM
P.S 2 : wasnt that the same thing happened before? something about the site down or the roll getting slower when the site almost hit 500 millionth roll

No, we haven't had such issues with the 500 millionth roll.

It seems there is an issue before when the site is approaching the 500 millionth roll ( references below ). Im not literally sure about the references though as there are only two user that reported that , would be nice if someone could clarify about this ( or that if the two quoted user could clarify more about this ) . Again Im not accusing things, just stating my skeptical opinion though  Wink Cheers

References :

Who have won che bet 500.000.000 ? My autobets stopped whitout motiv to bet 499,900,000

I also got the same problem when it reached to near the 500M roll my auto bot stopped working at the same moment, @romag won that bounty but it looks weird when it stopped working suddenly.



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Everyone are free to put their opinion in a non moderated thread though including QS so yeah there is no point to be "angry" Cheesy
6177  Economy / Gambling / Re: COINROYALE.COM 2.0 • New Design • Provably Fair • 1 BTC Bonus • Max Bet Doubled! on: August 21, 2015, 11:04:27 AM
This StatsMan guy is making me lol. You found a bug, huh? While that is possible I find it highly improbable. I'll be watching this closely. I love this site!

He actually "think" that he found a bug ( atleast this is my impression is ) but it seems he is having more losses rather than win which is why he is accusing things to be not fair here ( again this is my impression judging from the whole conversation ) which means that either there isnt any "bug" at all in the firsthand or that he is having a very bad run. Eitherway this whole conversation wont be happening now if he is winning the game

I did and literally I dont mind them for not showing it as they have proven themselves so far (yet this doesnt mean anything for future reputation though ) . Plus that it is not like that they are giving thousands of BTC jackpots unlike the other site

They have a BTC2 max bet per box on BJ a player can win 100's of BTC's in a very short time.

Some dice site even has 20 BTC max payout and some other site advertized over 60k BTC jackpot without providing any proof of cold storage as well. If CoinRoyale is a new site around here than I would agree with you it is better for them to show proof of their cold storage but so far there they have seem to be able to maintain their reputation here

P.S : do note that my opinion isnt mean to take their sides as Im merely neutral in this case and I am merely stating my opinion
6178  Economy / Gambling / Re: DaDice.com - Next Gen Social Gambling Dice Experience | Progressive Jackpot on: August 21, 2015, 10:52:15 AM
We are evaluating the reason of the re-occurring downtime issues with assistance from external specialists and the support engineers of our hosting provider.

I may be skeptical about this but if the downtime was actually not caused by DaDice then there are outsiders that tried to make the site down. The reason could be that to hit the 750 millionth bounty, by causing the site to go down then it will force people to leave the site temporary which means that once the site is up again then the person would have higher chance to hit the 750 millionth bounty as the number of people rolling will be slightly lower than usual

P.S : this is just a skeptical thought of mine though Im not accusing any party about this ( I mean no harm whatsoever  Wink )

P.S 2 : wasnt that the same thing happened before? something about the site down or the roll getting slower when the site almost hit 500 millionth roll
6179  Economy / Gambling / Re: DirectBet – LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. Rated # 1 by Bitcointalk Members ! on: August 21, 2015, 10:47:04 AM
All-in poker flips is not Random, played many bets, rigged 100% sure.

Depends on what your definition of "fair" actually is. Some people never bother a site when they win and do the opposite when they lose. Fair doesnt mean that you wont be losing and always win though and it seems the definition of fair in your mind is kinda vague.
The fact is that DirectBet is using provably fair and you are shown with the hashes before you send your bet and you can use that hashes to verify your bet to see if it is rigged

For more references : http://www.directbet.eu/Rules.cshtml

on my experience, opponent cards always getting a pair or 2 so i think the same way Sad

Read above as well
6180  Economy / Gambling / Re: MoneyPot.com :: The bitcoin gambling wallet on: August 21, 2015, 10:29:21 AM
Due to this circumstances it seems Ryan will keep on sacrificing his moneypot's share of profit back to the investor until everyone back to green again ( was the previous promotions from Ryan over) (?) Too bad but Ryan is the one that suffer the most because of this huge win though , plus that this luthic guy is betting for max win which means there isnt any share of profit for Moneypot

One or two variance is pretty much needed here as there hasnt been any huge winner yet in Moneypot and with investor's profit taking a huge dip down then this is a good time to "gamble" in investment as the variance might soon shift again to the investor's side ( or that luthic could come back to dip more of this  Cheesy )

or it will bite him for sure.

or he can win more Tongue . He got some pretty nice luck though
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