What I do see is that there is still strong community support.

Looks like we are back in business.

Maybe not....  we just need to convince dev that we support this coin, and it's call network.

Everyone post your support.   Tell the dev that you want to use vior calls and that you will help him grow the network.

Viorcoin.

Thanks for the informative chat today.


If at all possible, and through whichever means you think is best.
Please continue your work.

If we can move towards some of the things we have talked about, I'm sure we will be able to grow voir coin into what you dreamed it would be.

Most of us here would be more than willing to use our skills to make this happen.

BC

just so you guys know.

I will talk with viorcoin to try to take over the gateway if the kore community stops eurbids from moving forward with uniting us.

he isnt gone, hes just not posting here.

Viorcoin Dev isnt gone...

He just PMed me

interesting, I havent seen you active in either threads working towards any sort of development...   your concencus is based off you being a trader, probably one of the people who dumped vior to buy kore as this process began.

if the telcom business is going to remain this fractured with its low marketcap and low volume, it wont succeed.
what we need is all the people who have been building communities to start this idea rolling to get together and build the business of a crypto currency with telco stabalizing its price and helping towards worldwide adoption.

if you think its better to disenfranchise half the people who believe in this type of project, I can only assume that you arent seeing the big picture.

Either way though Eurbids will do what he sees as right once he restarts the kore project as 3.0.
and I will happilly buy and mine as many kore 3.0 once that happens,
or a little less reluctantly rebuild the vior project ( if possible) with a new team of people.

 

Well that has been your concensus.

Whatever happens the connections made here have been invaluable towards making a telecom business a success in the future.

I look forward towards working together with you guys on whatever the voir community becomes.

Mike mike.
The viorcoin block chain is fine.
The main reasons I am behind a merger of the coin is that

1) eurbids is a solo developer, and he doesn't need the extra hassle

2)  eurbids has the advantage of experience within the telco industry so he would be a much better choice than myself or many others in taking over the sms gateway.

3) this will be the second coin eurbids will have saved, and you can't beat something like that for PR

4) the crypto community is tiny and dying.  We need all the interested parties to be in the same boat.

Time to put our faith in Eurbids,  we can work around what he thinks is best.
He has much more experience in this field than I will ever have.
I will help him with community growth and  business where I can.
let's see where this goes.  With telecom it's the size of the user base not the tech that creates value.

Hey Viorcoin,  where are you in all of this.   Your absence is noted.

You started this whole project, and are unable to come out in public to discuss your decisions and why you made them.

You have already told us you are leaving, and have not given us the community any way to sustain ourselves without the help of Eurbids. why not come on and explain your reasons as well as help this transition along.

Eurbids.
Thank you for your clarity at this time.  I respect the work you do, and am happy to build and work with you.

If the two coins are merged we just need to find a way for the community to participate in its growth without the centralization of development stifling out the entrepreneurs.
building this on two fronts is the way to go.
 the qt wallet and stealth development need to be on one side...  while the commercial selling of voip minutes needs to be kept on the other.
the first requires heavy crypto community involvement (like mikemikes os, a tor browser etc), while the second requires a legal incorporated body that manages the funds and transfers of kore 3.0 (to voip minutes, or for a kore marketplace) and allows for a scalable sale model where some entity is held accountable for the minutes and products that they buy and resell.


 in some ways it will be nice to have the two joined. 
i love the concept of both coins.

BC

If the two coins are merged we just need to find a way for the community to participate in its growth without the centralization of development stifling out the entrepreneurs.
building this on two fronts is the way to go.
 the qt wallet and stealth development need to be on one side...  while the commercial selling of voip minutes needs to be kept on the other.
the first requires heavy crypto community involvement (like mikemikes os, a tor browser etc), while the second requires a legal incorporated body that manages the funds and transfers of kore 3.0 (to voip minutes, or for a kore marketplace) and allows for a scalable sale model where some entity is held accountable for the minutes and products that they buy and resell.


 in some ways it will be nice to have the two joined.  
i love the concept of both coins.

BC

looks to me like we only have two choices left.
1)  we sit on our hands and let Eurbids take over the project.

or

2) we get viorcoin dev to pass over the mantle of the gateway to a community group which must have developer skills, and the ability to grow the voip network itself.


I have always had a fairly good relationship with Eurbids and viorcoin, but neither of them have the greatest communication skills.
on the other hand, both have shown a very good working knowledge of voip communications.


If Eurbids or viorcoin can find a solution which allows the community to build on the gateway feature, as well as gives us clear avenues to participate within their venture beyond just the buying and selling of coins I think the 1st option is probably the best, but if we have to continue on this road of singular development with no ability to work together I would say option 2 is better.


discuss.

BC

KORE 3.0 will be a new blockchain with new parameters

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Mikemike is on the kore team.
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im in contact with the vior dev he isnt gone.  
of course those that arent regulars are probably missing like 80% of the conversations happenning through pm's and slack.

decisions are being made, and work is being done same as usual, though at the moment a lot of the discussion is in the public just to guage public support....   read eurbids and viorcoins posts, read through mine or mikemikes as well,  if you have objections SPEAK UP, we post on bitcointalk to get your opinions.

saying that I am not on any teams, but I have ties to both.

always nice to bounce ideas around with you mikemike.

its hard in cryptoland when there are so many people who just want quick results without trying to build anything themselves.
i feel like im constantly arguing over the same piddly details when there are so many other things that a community needs to put there mind and energy into.

anyone here used CEX.io?  I see they have a credit card funding method.....

nice easy method to get money in atm, ive been floundering since the demise of cavirtex

I dont have to many concerns,  as long as there is an elements of professionalism going forward.
the two main features of the telcom system should be kept seperate though

 the crypto anon features should be kept seperate from the business oriented telcom gateway.  the first should be run as a community project and be as open sourced as possible without giving away to many trade secrets it should be allowed to grow organically with as many minds and ideas working on it as possible, while the gateway should be run as a legal entity with regular earning reports, a fiat entrance point and regular updates regarding news and development to those that are participating within the business.


In the end both feed the entire community, and allow for the greatest potential for investment and growth.

fair enough,  I would say lets just keep it to a ratio based on total number of coins in both projects, I hold both coins so it doesnt matter to me either way, I am just glad to see that we are going to finally move forward.

if you use those numbers it should be somewhere between 2.3vior=1kore  and 3vior=1kore