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6241  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: price diff in excahnges on: November 18, 2013, 06:22:56 PM
[guessing] Perhaps you need to be in China to open an account there? In That case few people will be in a position to do arbitrage between the Yuan and Dollar.
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6242  Economy / Speculation / Re: COINBASE OUT OF BTC, WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON!??!? on: November 18, 2013, 06:20:53 PM
A few more weeks of this and we are going to have to learn Chinese to buy bitcoins.  Smiley
6243  Economy / Speculation / Re: Conspiracy theory: mega pump and dump operation during SHS hearings... on: November 18, 2013, 06:12:00 PM
Doesn't seem logical to me. Who would spend millions of dollars to inflate the price of bitcoin, then throw it all away in the hope that maybe it will go back down when they sell?

The banks? No. Can you imagine what investors would say if they found the bank doing that with their money?

China? China wants to see a move away from the dollar. Bitcoin's success is in their interest. A crash may hurt Chinese bitcoin peers more than anyone else. They paid the most for their coins and they are the biggest consumers of BTC
6244  Bitcoin / Meetups / Re: announcement: the international "when-bitcoin-reaches 1000,- $ party" on: November 18, 2013, 03:36:09 PM
Why not Bangkok? it will hit $1000 next year.

Bangkok would work out well for me if the price holds off a while. I have rented a house in Siem Reap Cambodia for the spring. Just a day's drive away!
6245  Other / Politics & Society / Re: People who do not believe in Jesus Christ are blind and deaf on: November 15, 2013, 09:33:08 PM
God is real because God says he is real. Hmmm.
6246  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Unlocking Cell Phones Becomes Illegal 1/26/2013 on: November 15, 2013, 09:29:01 PM
I haven't had a phone in my name in years. And I don't think I have ever had a locked phone. That is not going to change.  Wink

I even tricked the phone company into having a land line under the name RodeoX.
6247  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The biggest threat to Bitcoin... on: November 15, 2013, 09:25:11 PM
The loss of net neutrality. That would be awful for bitcoin.  Undecided
6248  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Mike Hearn, Foundation's Law & Policy Chair, is pushing blacklists right now on: November 15, 2013, 06:07:44 PM
You guys seem to think regulation is some kind of option. It is not. There will be regulation no matter how you feel about it. If you feel that destroys bitcoin, then sell yours to a grown up.
Of course regulation is going to happen.

That's why we should work to nullify it via code - design our systems to be immune to regulatory attack just like the filesharing space did successfully.

I personally oppose most regulation and use all manor of privacy software, however once you involve fiat money you run into existing law. There is the rub. You don't "own" dollars, you have the right to use them. And there are all sorts of laws about how you may use them.

We could choose to not engage with government, but what would happen? Countries around the world would try banning it's use and eventually it may be seen as simply a tool for crime. I think it is much wiser to develop our own approach to address their concerns and shape future regulation.

I support anyone's right to disagree. Anyone could form a group of like-minded peers and make an attempt to give bitcoin a special legal status that can disregard laws. A status that allows you to receive stolen goods or transfer money around the world with no need to obey international agreements. But I don't think it will work.    

EDIT: @NorbyTheGeek   Well said sir.
6249  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Mike Hearn, Foundation's Law & Policy Chair, is pushing blacklists right now on: November 15, 2013, 05:24:29 PM
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You guys seem to think regulation is some kind of option. It is not. There will be regulation no matter how you feel about it. If you feel that destroys bitcoin, then sell yours to a grown up.

idiot

tell me how bittorrent is regulated, mr know it all

It must be because I'm an idiot, but I fail to see what bittorrent has to do with anything? It is a tool for downloading. Why would that garner financial regulation?
6250  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Mike Hearn, Foundation's Law & Policy Chair, is pushing blacklists right now on: November 15, 2013, 03:42:50 PM
...tell them to shove their kyc/aml up their ass
Yeah, that should work.

You guys seem to think regulation is some kind of option. It is not. There will be regulation no matter how you feel about it. If you feel that destroys bitcoin, then sell yours to a grown up.
6251  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Mike Hearn, Foundation's Law & Policy Chair, is pushing blacklists right now on: November 15, 2013, 03:00:15 PM
I'm guessing not many of you have dealt with regulators before.
6252  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Mike Hearn, Foundation's Law & Policy Chair, is pushing blacklists right now on: November 15, 2013, 02:48:14 PM
What other measure would you guys suggest to meet existing legal requirements? Trying to convince lawmakers that bitcoin should be anonymously traded is an absolute non-starter. If that is the foundation's opinion then bitcoin may be declared illegal and the tracking of coins will move to law enforcement. So, what are our other options?

NOTHING. Mikes Proposed change is unacceptable.
The problem is doing nothing is unacceptable to any government. There are no other exceptions in financial law. Stocks, bonds, precious metals, real estate, currency markets, all such transaction require taxation and AML/KYC practices.
The recent value increase in bitcoin is largely driven by serious investors in the currency. Failure to devlop a regulatory regime will result in a flight from bitcoin and their will be no reason or path to ever see it realize it's potential. You wont even be able to buy alpaca socks.
6253  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Mike Hearn, Foundation's Law & Policy Chair, is pushing blacklists right now on: November 15, 2013, 02:35:44 PM
What other measure would you guys suggest to meet existing legal requirements? Trying to convince lawmakers that bitcoin should be anonymously traded is an absolute non-starter. If that is the foundation's opinion then bitcoin may be declared illegal and the tracking of coins will move to law enforcement. So, what are our other options?
6254  Economy / Speculation / Re: We've Reached the Top (Proof Inside) on: November 14, 2013, 09:34:29 PM
Speculation is also called guessing and never involves proof. If the future price were provable every one with a calculator would be rich.
I'm not dis-ing you man. But I have seen hundreds of threads like this.
6255  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: how to get rid of BTC dust ??? on: November 14, 2013, 09:27:55 PM
Save the dust. One day you may be able to use it to buy a new computer.  Smiley
6256  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin crashes when those investing realise 2 things on: November 14, 2013, 06:56:42 PM
Actually the OP is a clever guy and has made some interesting posts in the past. It's a good thing to have critics. They sharpen our thinking.

So it's a bit disappointing to see him coming out with this guff.


Good point. Skeptical thinking is a virtue. And no one should be beaten up for not understanding.

No, but when you stubbornly insist you are right when EVERYONE is telling you you are wrong, you'll start to take abuse.
Let him think what he wants. It doesn't change the truth.  
6257  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Mike Hearn, Foundation's Law & Policy Chair, is pushing blacklists right now on: November 14, 2013, 05:32:34 PM
Mike does not decide, lawmakers will. Have you contacted your congressman, senator, any regulator? No?, then I guess his opinion trumps yours.
You will get nothing complaining here. Like it or not, bitcoin regulation IS coming to the USA. If you want to be heard then write. Not here, write your representatives. If you want no regulation then write your own code and fork the chain. Maybe someone will use your alt-coin.
6258  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin crashes when those investing realise 2 things on: November 14, 2013, 03:42:25 PM
Actually the OP is a clever guy and has made some interesting posts in the past. It's a good thing to have critics. They sharpen our thinking.

So it's a bit disappointing to see him coming out with this guff.


Good point. Skeptical thinking is a virtue. And no one should be beaten up for not understanding.
6259  Economy / Speculation / Re: It's getting frothy, and I'm dumping 75% of my coins on: November 13, 2013, 09:21:16 PM
cant be right all the time. If it goes to $1000 so be it. No regrets here. Better to be wrong and still make a bunch of money, than be wrong and lose a bunch of money.

I just cashed in approx $100 000 usd for doing pretty much nothing.
That's a good point. I don't fault anyone for a successful strategy. You executed a clear plan and made a big profit. So what if the price goes to $1000.
6260  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Computer Scientists Prove God Exists on: November 13, 2013, 09:12:00 PM
The great eternal always has and always will.
Actually God is universal energy that we can feel >>That's the reason they say God is everywhere. It's the universal energy.
We are made from star dust, so that energy resides in us >>The reason they say God resides inside us
Exactly, the great eternal consciousness.
As weird as this sounds, a lot of scientists and philosophers would say that this idea has merit. The idea of consciousness being outside of our bodies may be correct. In this model we living things tune into consciousness rather than create it.
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