I think I would have to disagree. There are a lot of successful projects which are open source. Open source is the way to go in the future. It isn't about a certain few members staying up late or contributing more. It's about a wide range of people contributing to each others work in order to advance it for the better.

I know striping the miners fees would only hurt Bitcoin, miners are essential for Bitcoin to work and no miner is going to take a loss and work for free. Where are the core developers are not taking a loss necessarily.   

Why don't people just contribute to core development instead? Fees for mining are necessary. Although, you would have to be pretty advance to contribute to core development, it's still something some people are very much capable of doing.

Even contributing towards development by suggesting and providing feedback is a great way to start. Without feedback from the community, the software has limitations because of the developers wants/needs and their aspirations.

The only Bitcoin that I've lost is when inputs.io pulled their little scheme. Otherwise, I've been solid. At least the inputs.io incident taught me even storing very small amounts is a bad idea. I can't remember the exact amount but it was no more than 10.

Maybe you should read the next page too 

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=959464.0

No one can get scammed. You just return the account back to the seller. I've never had a problem, and people who have used myself have always preferred to send the money directly. It's not the most confidential way as someone can find out the name before purchasing this way, but this is all agreed in advance. If someone does want me to hold the money, then that isn't a problem. That comment I included because I normally let the seller decide which they would prefer. I do agree though, and that's why the seller is given an option.

I don't agree on giving a negative for backing out of terms of an escrow. There was no Bitcoin/information stolen. Because someone disagrees on terms doesn't mean it merits a negative rating. At most I would put a neutral with a warning that a successful escrow wasn't completed (even though that's probably not needed)  So, I don't think it's the correct decision to give a negative for simply backing out of a deal. Yes it's not very professional or ideal for the buyer/seller but it doesn't seem like any damage was done or there was any intent of a malicious action.

I guess my point is that there was no risk involved with this, because terms weren't agreed on. Although having said that, the buyer did act very unprofessional in the way of dealing with it and he should understand that a escrow must have separate terms to the buyer/seller to cover their arse too. If you didn't change the password, then the account could be taken back by the seller. But, without changing the password you can't verify that they are selling the account that they claim to be. If the terms had been agreed and the an issue had occurred then a negative is fully justified. But simply not accepting terms doesn't justify a negative.

I don't think Quickseller was doing anything wrong, he's probably gone about it the correct way in most parts, some parts I would do differently. But, he's trying to make sure that both parties are safe and because worhiper wanted no password change that basically means the seller can claim that account back whenever he likes. Quickseller has in his terms that a password change is necessary which I totally agree on.

It seems worhiper initial thoughts might of been, Quickseller stating in his terms that a password change is not going to happen, therefore worhiper will not hold Quickseller responsible if the account is reclaimed by the seller after the initial escrow is completed (sending/releasing and confirming the account is accessible by the buyer). However, there is a flaw in that thinking, that as a buyer they can claim that they have not received the correct credentials for the account, even though they might have access to it and the buyer might ask for the escrow to not be completed and have his money transferred back to him. Quickseller because he hasn't had the credentials himself can't confirm  that worhiper has access to the account. This is the whole point of having a escrow in this sort of transaction. So, all Quickseller at this point can only assume and he would probably need to return the money back to the buyer, meaning the seller might have held up to his side of the deal, but because Quickseller can't verify that himself he would end up being scammed. There is a workaround for Quickseller, he would need to put into is terms that the seller agrees to this and that he completely understands the risk involved in this sort of process and that he will not hold Quickseller responsible if the deal does go sour because of the reason stated above. Although, personally I wouldn't want to do this. This has the potential to cause problems and isn't using a escrow to it's complete potential.

I can understand why Quickseller wouldn't want to do this to avoid future problems. I wouldn't want to go ahead with this sort of deal. Maybe that's why Quickseller has justified his negative because of the reason above, but that's acting on assumption rather than evidence. I like to think innocent until proven guilty.

Unless, I'm not completely understanding what went on. Obviously, we as the community are only receiving partial information. I do believe that Worship might of misunderstood the process, and the risks of not changing the password.


The accepted practice of doing a money, for account trade is this:

1. Seller, buyer & escrow state their terms and are agreed upon by all parties. This includes the buyers sending address & the sellers receiving address.
2. Seller sends the credentials to the escrow.
3. Escrow confirms that the account has been sent and the credentials and the stated terms are met.
4. Escrow changes the account credentials and notifies the buyer that the payment can be sent.  
Now, in my opinion, the escrow doesn't need to hold the money, all he needs to do is hold the account details. The money can be transferred from the buyer to the seller. Because the escrow has confirmed that the terms have been met, e.g activity, posts and feedback. So there is no need for the escrow to hold any Bitcoin.
5. Buyer/Seller notify the escrow that the money has been sent/received.
6 Escrow checks whether this is true. If it is he releases the account to the buyer.  


Anyone who doesn't agree to those terms, doesn't use myself as a escrow. I wouldn't give them a negative for not agreeing to the terms. Seems that Quickseller was following these steps.

Probably not allowed. Don't get me wrong some people do it when they are disputing why a post was deleted, but normally a member of staff asks for it. This thread won't be contributing to unnecessary spam.

I found something whilst reading some old topics which I do from time to time and discovered a title naming guide by theymos. Might be worth mentioning in the original post. Pretty helpful. Somethings I'm guilty of not doing some of the recommendations.

I think I remember that being what 60% to be considered good enough to be a member of staff.  I just think a lot of users will avoid reporting controversial content just because they are not 100% sure and could get a bad report. That's not the way they should be thinking if they want to be a moderator, rather they should focus on helping out the forum rather than focusing on accuracy and rather the reason given and how much detail and effort was put in.  

So don't panic if your accuracy isn't very high. To be honest you've only reported a very small amount so the accuracy will fluctuate very easily if a mistake was made etc. When you reach the 1000+ mark it seems like you've broken it because it won't move for months on end.


On topic: Seems like there isn't any limit and doesn't matter how many characters you put it won't become a problem visually for the moderators. So including my links to other sources should not be a problem from now on.

Just report what you think is against forum rules and what things need addressing. Accuracy means nothing. Only you see your accuracy unless you tell everyone.

And I thought my inbox needed cleaning.

Cool. I find myself quite often finding people posting multiple topics in a short period of time and they've been missed. So, I was wondering if posting the reason for reporting & including all the links to the topics which are double posts. I've avoided doing this in the past due to thinking there might be some limitation, so reported 1, included 1 link. Then reported the rest the same way.

I'm not looking to write you a story, don't worry about that  . Just want to include some links to other sources.


Thanks for the responses everyone.

I've wondered this before, is there a character limit to the report comment field? I've refrained from going into more detail in some cases, for example posting links to back up why i'm reporting the thread/post. There doesn't seem to be a 'hard' limit which basically doesn't allow you to enter any more characters or deletes them. But, I'm not familiar with the report interface for moderators and was wondering whether if there is a limit or if including too many characters can make it act funny or cause a nuisance to the interface.

I would install a local instance of Simple Machines, but I know that this forum is modified and it's quite possible that the report function has been too, at least back-end.

What error is it reporting? Does it just timeout? Seems like this is a problem on your end. So checking your computer for the things below might be a good idea. There was a recent IP address change, so it might be the protection that theymos is using. They might be blocking your particular ISP or country.


There's a few things to check:

- Clear cookies & cache.
- Are you using HTTP Everywhere? Sometimes, this can mess up and case issues with certain sites, I don't think this is the case for this though.
- Check "hosts" file and alter if needed.
- Flushing the DNS
- Check if your ISP is blocking it

I've got two free gift packs, which I've just found in my desk draw. I don't think they have a expiry date. Because, I can't seem to find it on the card. But, I don't intend on playing it and therefore don't have any use for them. Send me a message if you want them. (I will be looking for more reputable members, because I feel someone would just say they want them when they don't even play otherwise)


Found someone who is interested, I've sent the codes.

I purchased it on the ps4, I don't see any reason why I would need it on the PC now. The mods are obviously good, but I wouldn't buy it just for the base game.

Screw it, I'll bite the bullet bit of fun!

Bitcoin Baron, very nearly a Bitcoin count though!

Instead of a new section, which I don't think is warranted just for faucets, could they all be merged into one thread? Each faucet only allowed to post once. I just don't think it's justified to have a new section for something like faucets. Although, in it's current state, basically the majority in service announcements that may be the way to go. It wouldn't be so bad if something else could go in the new section, besides just faucets.

I know my suggestions isn't ideal either.

Or ignorant.

I would have to totally disagree with this point. Many people are happy & live a 'normal' life if there is such a thing on either not working for anyone but themselves, or by doing jobs which are considered low standard by society, for example cleaning, although without the cleaners in hospitals everything wouldn't be sterile and not a safe place to treat people, so the so called high level doctors can't operate correctly.

But to answer the question of the subject, there are two answers. You either pick the moral route or financial route. None of these is better, it's a matter of perception.