Thanks for this update. I don't understand how you can invest in ICO and for 4 months don't check or apply for KYC? If some people are so lazy there should be a time frame for KYC (3 months is more as needed) and after this time distribution should start otherways Envion is hurting their investors because of few people who don't care about their investment. Such a statement about KYC time frame should be in ICO rules. This is just hard to believe that so many people don't check they ICO investment and that is why I am not convinced that this is the reason why distribution of bounty is so delayed. Every ICO investor knows that this is time game and few days too late you can lose a lot of money.


Another scary thing is that tokens are not distributed yet and price is already 65% under ICO. What would happen when distribution start?
I think we can see 1to10 reduction and this will be a hard decision not to sell because if you sell you can buy later 3 or 4 times more with this money so why not, why to hold as you say? The price is low and there are 100 reasons to go even deeper? I think, when you take this all into consideration, you will sell as soon as possible and watch later calmly how price goes down next weeks when bounty will be dumped. Then if you still believe in this project, you will buy 4 times bigger bag or even 2 times will be better as to stay with this investment.

I have to admit that I am very sorry to write such a summary for my Envion ICO investment but this is what I think and how I see this situation. I have invested in this ICO too and this is not funny for me to watch how my money is disappearing on a daily basis when I can do literally nothing about this and the only answer I got so far is "no ETA".  

There is no problem to wait for bounty. The only problem is lack of information. If I know that bounty will be distributed in June I will wait calmly but there is no update. Pleas Hdac let us now when distribution will start and we all will be happy   to wait if we know how long.

So still nothing to hear about our bounty. I keep coming back to this thread every 2 weeks and there is no progress at all. Bounty manager keeps repeating that we will get paid but nobody knows when "there is no ETA".

I think 4 months is enough time to go true KYC with investors. Why this delay? What is going on Envion?

When is scheduled start of Atlant platform? Or even a beta testing version. I see on the roadmap that this should be in this month. Any updates on this?

Is this true?

I hear about checkpoint key and an alert key for the first time and there is nothing to find on the internet.

If somebody can explain this I will be appreciated.

There will be a lot of FUD, especially in a bear market. Sometimes this is a good sign to search for a buy position when there is only FUD and fear in the news. This could mean that we are at the end of the bear market.

I think that how much wallets are downloaded don't have a straight correlation with price or market movement because there is no need at all to download the wallet if you want to use or buy Bitcoin.

Bitcoin has already changed our entire world. Blockchain technology is booming. Bitcoin is just unstoppable and that is why there is lately few great news about incoming regulations. I don't know if Bitcoin will be the one and only currency in the future but  I am sure that cryptocurrencies will be widely used and adopted very soon on a massive scale. Technology has a very big impact on us and everything is evolving. Why not money from FIAT to Bitcoin, crypto? Is just a common sense to think that this will and is happening right now.

This is indeed great news. Tokens finally will be easy to buy which means more adoption. Lately, we have seen few great news for cryptocurrencies. If this continues maybe we will see the end of this bear market sooner as we think. I hope for this but from what I know good news doesn't have much impact on price when the market is bearish.

I hope for that but I don't think we will see another bull market until 2019. Every next bull and bear run is longer from the last one and bear length is a half of bull market. We have almost 3 years of the bull market that suggests this bear will last for 1,5 year because sooner bull market was for 2 years and bear one. Which will be at the beginning of 2019. This is my prediction and I am 60% sure of that. The second scenario, I am 40% convinced that we will see the third leg up and one more price spike until June 2018. Nobody knows for sure. I think both scenarios are correct and possible.

Sorry, but what you said has no sense at all.

"Facebook and Google have a lot of bitcoins... hiding behind their big names.....they got what they want."

You say that they are big bag holders and spread FUD, cancel ads etc.

When and which big bag holder behaves like this?

Yes, Bitcoin is a part of digital money but you forget to add that Bitcoin is first decentralized one. Decentralised makes the difference and this unique approach makes Bitcoin different and standing out from existing digital money.

Bitcoin will rise again just HODL.

Are you sure that they are tracking bitcoin transactions to de-anonymize users? Have you any proof, link, something? I know that NSA is the evil of this world but why should they track BTC only and all cryptos? There are quite a few millionaires invested and holding other cryptocurrencies. Why only BTC? If NSA is after big wallets they will know about all of them, I think.

On which platform is this project build? Etherum? I can find nothing about this on your page. Can you please explain?

They are masters of this game and that's it. They have an army of lawyers thinking each day how to do that. They do it correctly as for today because they don't have any problems with USA regulators. I am sure if there is something wrong with their business authorities will not allow and stop this. Especially USA authorities and regulators with their hate to BTC and cryptocurrencies.

This is sad to see this original project struggling so hard. There are many investors dumping Byteball after Tony canceled airdrop. From what I see this airdrop attracted few big investors and now they are selling because they were only counting on money from airdrop and not wanted to support the project and hold for a long time. This shows that Tony decision was not bad at all I think. The main reason for airdrops is to attract new users and this could not be achieved. There are not much Byteballs left and Tony has to come up with a good strategy on how to distribute them. Still when I see Byteball price and actual community reactions I fill sad that such a great and innovative project had such a bad time.

Of course, I am and from what I see I am buying more and more each year from online shops. Is easy and mostly a lot cheaper as in the normal shop. I think future shopping is online and we will see 90% of shops running their business online until the 2020 year.

I hope you are right because from my experience politics are making sometimes bad decisions when it comes to regulations. I have seen a lot of good ideas stopped or killed by bad regulations. They will say that this is to protect us from being scammed (ICO's) and them from being robbed (taxes). I hope this time would be different.

Ze wzgledu na bardzo male zainteresowanie naszym tematem bounty zostalo przeniesione na termin od 1 kwietnia do 2 maja. Jezeli nie bedzie zadowalajacej frekwencji zostanie znowu przeniesione na pozniejszy termin.

Aktualnie znajdujemy sie w nieciekawym momencie dla kryptoqwalut. Od trzech miesiecy rynek jest na czerwono i dlatego trudno jest przeprowadzic jakakolwiek kampanie promocyjna dla projektu. Ludzi ogarnia panika i ciezko jest zachecic kogokolwiek do zainteresowania sie jakism nowym projekte.

Miejmy nadzieje ze kolejny miesiac bedzie bardziej laskawy dla krypto i zobaczymy jakies zielone dni i wzrosty cen. To moze uspokoic troche rynek i zachecic inwestorow do szukania nowych dlugych pozycji bo przeciez wszyscy znamy zlota zasade kupuj tanio, sprzedawaj drogo.

I think that such a high amount of sells in one day or even in a very short time can and will impact the price of Bitcoin for sure. We have seen that price went down and now in a bear market such a sell-off is not the best news to hear. Even good news have no or medium impact on price when in the bear market. Unfortunately, bad news in falling market has a very big impact on price with down pressure and we have seen that clearly after this sell-off that price goes down even more.

If I know the answer to this question I would be a millionaire and never share it in the open. All the rest is only talking and speculations. From Bitcoin past few years we can clearly see that every next bull and bear markets are longer and every time bear market is half long as a bull market. The last bull run was from 2015 until 2018 so we can assume that this bear will last until 2019 and we are only 3 months in. This is my prediction and I am 60% sure of. From the other hand, I still hope in 40% for the 3rd bull run leg which can start even today.