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6361  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ★★★ GameCredits - The future of in-game monetization ★★★ on: June 17, 2019, 08:14:08 PM
If you delete/censor my post again I will start an unofficial thread & open a scam accusation against you.

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**CUT THE CR@P**

Absolute BS. Gamecredits using fake accounts to shill this scam again. Badly.

If you think people are stupid enough to believe that a company like Sony are going to get involved with this scam coin then you are deluded. You have simply created this fake Sony Interactive account to fraudulently promote this scam - but you are welcome to prove me wrong by posting some legal documentation from Sony that states that you are legit while I wait for a response from my email to Sony regarding your illegal use of their brand name to fraudulently promote this scam.

That's a bit aggressive, they answered a post made by somebody giving them contact info.  You know that anyone can create and account here, warren buffett might be next lol.  Either way they dont give out false promises not do they act within the normal crypto hype machine.  I think you are slightly over reacting.
6362  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Grin Observer - GRN/BTC - Price Movement and Discussion on: June 17, 2019, 05:02:18 PM
Well I was very wrong  Cheesy I did not see this price action coming right now but it's nice to see.  Haven't checked the mining data but I'm sure difficulty has spiked with this price surge.  This run looks strong
6363  Economy / Speculation / Re: June 2019 - Bitcoin hits 10K, where next on: June 17, 2019, 05:00:03 PM
As of today Bitcoin gained sharply in price reaching two years high crossing the barrier of $10 K. What price do you think Bitcoin would achieve in this bull run? Would it be over 20K or below?

I dont think we will spike right to 20k like last time.  I think starting the year where we did, I imagine some sharp profit taking will start to happen if we get to 11-12k and upwards.  So maybe a little leveling out over the next six months could be what we see here.  Just my 2 cents
6364  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] FujiCoin 3.0 | Japan | Since 2014 | BlockBid - Bleutrade - Cryptopia on: June 17, 2019, 04:55:03 PM
Reply from BlockBid

I inquired at BlockBid's CMO about the Fujicoin listing. He gave a reply as follows:
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Hi Motty,
Thanks for your email.
At this stage only coins integrated with the BitGo wallet system have been listed - once we have orderbook depth we'll be working on adding the additional coins who are waiting for a listing.

Again, we apologise for the delay but would rather list you on a stable exchange that is safe for you and the community.

Thanks,

BlockBid puts security first. As a result, the launch was significantly behind the original plan. It is a fact that the plans of the Fujicoin team went wildly in the meantime because Cryptopia went bankrupt. It may take months until Fujicoin goes public on BlockBid, but I think we can only wait patiently.  Lips sealed


I'm sorry, this coin is so 'dead' in its current format. It is back to 2014 till about 2018 before the KNC Titans came into play for the pools...without some kind of massive changes
(of which I don't have a clue) this coin (FJC) will go 'right back' to obscurity. You innovate or you die. Just with the current hooks and stuff with FJC and just following the bitcoin
core updates..simply is NOT enough. I use the fact of the 'lack of any' action on buys the last couple months of any note (IMHO) on youbit.

Whatever, was fun while it lasted. But a coin that has 11 million sells and no buys for days on end, is not too encouraging.

brad


Searing 99% of the crypto world wouldn't touch yobit to buy unfortunately.  With a liquid exchange like cryptopia you seen there were a lot of active buys.  I think we just need a good couple of exchanges with volume to get this kickstarted.
6365  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [AUCTION] Lealana Monero Brass/Nickle Set #13 and other items on: June 17, 2019, 02:55:05 PM
Lot #1 6.2xmr
6366  Economy / Collectibles / Re: Lealana Litecoins - what to do - sell or redeem? on: June 15, 2019, 03:45:26 PM
Depends if you want more value than the loaded value sell here.  These will definately sell over peel value.  Use an escrow here on site and list and auction at face value.
6367  Economy / Collectibles / Re: Stamps go digital - Collectable Blockchain postage stamp on: June 14, 2019, 12:44:13 AM
Ill pitch in some BTC for a few of these if anyone's interested (us,tx) My daughter would love something Bitcoin with a unicorn !

Spend 20 euro and it's free shipping, you can use regular credit card to buy these.  Shouldbt be hard to get them in the US
6368  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [Auction] Charlie Lee signed Lealana 25LTC & 10LTC ICG MS68 graded coins! on: June 13, 2019, 09:11:55 PM
Yeah Wheelz, VERY limited supply...check this:

https://imgur.com/BM64pN4

Wow those 5 LTC coins, only 2 of them  Shocked
6369  Economy / Collectibles / Re: Stamps go digital - Collectable Blockchain postage stamp on: June 13, 2019, 09:03:29 PM
Anyone ordering in US, would like to combine the order with few people if they want it.

I think I would be interested in a group buy possibly.  Are the 10 stamps(1 block of stamps) sealed.  Being that there are rarer ones how would we deal with that if they aren't sealed?  These are definately cool little pieces, and will go nice with the loaded posted envelope  Cheesy
6370  Economy / Services / Re: [ANN] TookDk's Escrow Service is now officially open for the public ***OPEN*** on: June 13, 2019, 08:53:33 PM
Have done deals with TookDk before and would highly recommend TookDk as an escrow and would have no issue using them in the future.
6371  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [Auction] Charlie Lee signed Lealana 25LTC & 10LTC ICG MS68 graded coins! on: June 13, 2019, 07:23:09 PM
Many people don't know that there was a "Certified Signature Series" done by Smoothie back in the day... I'm positive that I posted this already in this thread...I wonder where it went Huh  Ahhh well, here it is again:


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1482922.0

Interesting I never seen that.  Minerjones did this piece ever sell?  I wonder if any others exist like this package.  Too many physicals and offshoots to follow  Cheesy
6372  Economy / Speculation / Re: On short-term traders on: June 13, 2019, 01:22:47 PM
As have I addressed it elsewhere but blow this off as well.  Roll Eyes
6373  Economy / Speculation / Re: On short-term traders on: June 13, 2019, 12:38:58 PM
I'm pretty sure I trust cambridge's definition instead of one of mine i just came up with.  Imagine if we all just made up our own definitions for every word

But this is exactly how it happens

There is no kind of absolute definition "sourced" from somewhere unto us which we should accept without any further question. And ultimately, yes, we have our own understanding of what every word means or describes. Anyway, appeal to authority (which is what you are doing here) speaks a lot about your own lack of true understanding rather than me failing to make a compelling argument. Put differently, you can't change an opinion or point of view where there is none to begin with

you're just pointing out that most day traders lose money. sure a small proportion of them are successful. but the same is true for gamblers

They can't consistently lose money. And there is no endless influx of new traders which could potentially give some credibility to your claim. These two factors can mean only one thing, that short-term traders cannot be losing money en masse

your comparing "short term traders" to "bagholders", not "short term traders" to "long term traders".

That's how bag holders are calling themselves (and hodlers, while we are at it). Simply put, "long-term traders" is a handy euphemism

Lol your funny man really.  Yes people can continually lose money trading it's called an addiction, they make money elsewhere and lose it trading.  To say that's not possible actual speaks a lot about your lack of true understanding.  
6374  Economy / Speculation / Re: On short-term traders on: June 13, 2019, 10:38:47 AM
Cambridge dictionary link posted above

You have no idea of your own?

or just make a wild guess about the future price, that will be gambling (but if I'm an expert trader, the latter wouldn't count). Anything else which involves a calculated decision (or an educated guess if you please) won't be
That defines the decision when or where to place the trade, a well calculated trade still carries a risk. The unknown factor is the gamble that you take with placing the trade


I'm not sure if some amount of risk makes it into gambling

Otherwise, everything and life itself would be gambling in general. And while some would undoubtedly sign up on this, it essentially makes the whole idea irrelevant and inconsequential. Really, if everything which involves a certain amount of risk (that is just everything) is gambling, then there is nothing that wouldn't be gambling. I don't think it is a meaningful approach. In other words, gambling is reliance on luck and luck alone, with no other option to win

I'm pretty sure I trust cambridge's definition instead of one of mine i just came up with.  Imagine if we all just made up our own definitions for every word.  Just by this thread alone I'd say that would be a complete mess lol.  

I sourced the cambridge defition
I posted a link from gambling research center at Rutgers
I posted a link from what Warren Buffett (the most prolific investor of our time) thinks about crypto trading and gambling

If these things dont sway you, I dont think I can.  It's a stalemate.  You have made no compelling argument to make me think differently as well.  So cheers keep on day trading and good luck to you.  Grin
6375  Economy / Speculation / Re: On short-term traders on: June 13, 2019, 08:56:58 AM
After being on this forum for years a large portion of people have little to no idea why they are buying something outside of the idea that someday they are going to be rich, so yes long term holders too are gambling a lot of times.  You seem to have been here a long time.  Can we not agree that people buy crypto in which they just hope it goes up?  If you ask them why I would reckon some would have no idea what they bought other than the drivel they read in one of the [ann] threads.  Throwing your money at that I would consider a gamble, whatever their motives might be.  I think we can agree on that right?

Now you are starting to see the light

That gamblers in trading are not inherent to just short-term trading. You seem to accept the fact that they are also present among longer-term traders. Now you have to make the next logical step and understand that the majority of people can't be losing all the time as it is against human psychology and people's ego (apart from die-hard masochists and their likes, of course). But short-term trading is where this becomes evident and pretty fast at that. Then you've got to realize that gamblers can't possibly be the majority of people engaged in the short-term trading. They come and go, and if they don't quit, they go to longer terms and there they accumulate

Huh I never said longer term trading isn't gambling.  I dont understand your position

What's wrong with understanding my position?

I think I made it abundantly clear. If all trading is sort of gambling (that remains to be seen, though), then short-term trading (contrary to the public opinion, intuitive thinking and gut feelings) is most likely a form of trading which has the least "gambling" component in it for the reasons stated and explained in the OP. I hope I won't have to reiterate them here all over again

In short no one knows if bitcoin will be higher or lower on Saturday, therefore making it a gamble.  Some people use certain methods to narrow down the gamble but its gambling

I guess you may want to revise your understanding of what gambling really is. If you are making decisions on some logical premises or factual information (read, your decisions are not totally at random), this is not gambling even if no one knows what the price of Bitcoin will be on Saturday, whether it will exist at all by the weekend, or even whether you will be proved wrong most of the time

That seems to be the part you are missing in your reasoning

Just read the last part, so if team A wins 70% of their games when played in the rain, if I bet on them to win the next game it isn't gambling because I'm making a decision on a logical premise Smiley

Cambridge might want to have a word with you:

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/amp/english/gamble&ved=2ahUKEwjp1YP-9OPiAhUs1VkKHbfmBigQFjAIegQIAhAB&usg=AOvVaw1oRML0LuLTjzUIRKVD97MB&ampcf=1&cshid=1560343998535



 Roll Eyes

 to do something that involves risks that might result in loss of money or failure, hoping to get money or achieve success:

Anyone who gambles on the stock exchange has to be prepared to lose money

[Source] cambridge dictionary link posted above.
6376  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [WTS] btcc.mobi C Series six-piece poker chip set: 500K, 100K, 25K, etc. 2016 on: June 12, 2019, 11:23:44 PM
You should keep it for when bitcoin goes to 1million a coin

And you should read the Op properly.
Hush

Viz

Edited to add:

You should have no problem selling these hashmap. They are indeed desirable and I know of a number of users here that would be keen to own a set such as this Smiley

Good luck with your sale Smiley


I did read the OP properly. Most people hang onto treasured belongings from loved ones that pass away. I didn't understand, how Tommy could love the sale in March if he passed away in February. But I wasn't gonna ask this.  Especially that he has kids. Save the physical coins for the kids college funds.


And yeah I feel as if it's a nesscary comment. I wouldn't have said it otherwise. Rip me a fucking apart because of it.


What part of "And, these sales will help his family; he left a wife and two young children behind." did you not respect.  Were you looking for a response from him reiterating that he DID NOT want to let go of it which he already stated in the OP.  Sorry hashmap will let this thread be good luck.
6377  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [WTS] btcc.mobi C Series six-piece poker chip set: 500K, 100K, 25K, etc. 2016 on: June 12, 2019, 11:14:31 PM
You should keep it for when bitcoin goes to 1million a coin

Was that a necessary comment here Huh

Hashmap good luck with your sale.  Plenty of btcc collectors here and this is indeed a rarer piece that is coveted here.  I wish you luck and pass my condolences to the rest of your family from us the bitcoin collectable family.
6378  Economy / Speculation / Re: On short-term traders on: June 12, 2019, 10:37:18 PM
As the saying goes, you can take a horse to water but you can't make him drink. I can show you the direction but I can't make you see the point. I can't accurately tell what the price of Bitcoin will be in 2 weeks (or whatever), but that doesn't mean that I will be gambling on it. If I toss a coin (not necessarily bitcoin, though) and make a trading decision based on the outcome or just make a wild guess about the future price, that will be gambling (but if I'm an expert trader, the latter wouldn't count). Anything else which involves a calculated decision (or an educated guess if you please) won't be

Will answer other interesting posts later

Since some sports betters are experts or make educated guesses on their bets that means they aren't gambling?  Are you disputing the actual definition of gambling now  Shocked

They are not, naturally

Tossing a coin is gambling and rolling a dice are unless you can skew the odds in your favor somehow. Experts in the field are doing exactly that by exploiting their expertise. They are not gambling, i.e. they are not relying on chance alone (which is the actual definition of gambling). Technically, even if you toss a coin or roll a dice using some obscure theory which allegedly allows you to predict the outcomes, you won't be gambling. Indeed, we know in advance that with these games of chance no theory is going to help you out but no one promised you that your theories would be correct (though who knows and it may help after all)

So if I put a blindfold on and pick a team to win that's gambling, but if I use analytics about teams, players etc and skew the odds in my favor(or so I think I am) that's not sports gambling?

I definitely understand your pain

To ease it, I can show you the light and give you an example. Say, you have a supercomputer which can reliably calculate the odds of rolling a specific number in a dice game by taking into account a multitude of real-life parameters that the roll outcome depends on. Will dice then stop being a game of chance while rolling gambling? If your answer is no, then think again. Otherwise, you should agree that a game of chance (dice, heads or tails, whatever) is only such as long as our predictions are random (read, we take them straight out of our asses). On the other hand, if our predictions are not random, for ourselves it is no longer a game of chance even if our predictions more or less match the odds of the game overall

Cool if I know a star player is sick and might not play I will bet on the other team and it wont be gambling.  I wonder what kind of support groups exist for people addicted to calculated odds betting (not gambling addiction since that isn't gambling)

Here is a great write up by: researchers at the Center for Gambling Studies at Rutgers University–New Brunswick

https://www.google.com/amp/s/finance.yahoo.com/amphtml/news/cryptocurrency-trading-appeals-problem-gamblers-185438426.html

Warren Buffett (but hey what does he know about investing anyway right) https://coinidol.com/trading-bitcoin-is-gambling/
6379  Economy / Speculation / Re: On short-term traders on: June 12, 2019, 10:14:06 PM
As the saying goes, you can take a horse to water but you can't make him drink. I can show you the direction but I can't make you see the point. I can't accurately tell what the price of Bitcoin will be in 2 weeks (or whatever), but that doesn't mean that I will be gambling on it. If I toss a coin (not necessarily bitcoin, though) and make a trading decision based on the outcome or just make a wild guess about the future price, that will be gambling (but if I'm an expert trader, the latter wouldn't count). Anything else which involves a calculated decision (or an educated guess if you please) won't be

Will answer other interesting posts later

Since some sports betters are experts or make educated guesses on their bets that means they aren't gambling?  Are you disputing the actual definition of gambling now  Shocked

They are not, naturally

Tossing a coin is gambling and rolling a dice are unless you can skew the odds in your favor somehow. Experts in the field are doing exactly that by exploiting their expertise. They are not gambling, i.e. they are not relying on chance alone (which is the actual definition of gambling). Technically, even if you toss a coin or roll a dice using some obscure theory which allegedly allows you to predict the outcomes, you won't be gambling. Indeed, we know in advance that with these games of chance no theory is going to help you out but no one promised you that your theories would be correct (though who knows and it may help after all)

So if I put a blindfold on and pick a team to win that's gambling, but if I use analytics about teams, players etc and skew the odds in my favor(or so I think I am) that's not sports gambling?

I definitely understand your pain

To ease it, I can show you the light and give you an example. Say, you have a supercomputer which can reliably calculate the odds of rolling a specific number in a dice game by taking into account a multitude of real-life parameters that the roll outcome depends on. Will dice then stop being a game of chance while rolling gambling? If your answer is no, then think again. Otherwise, you should agree that a game of chance (dice, heads or tails, whatever) is only such as long as our predictions are random (read, we take them straight out of our asses). On the other hand, if our predictions are not random, for ourselves it is no longer a game of chance even if our predictions more or less match the odds of the game overall

So all in all you think short term traders that have been trading for x number of time (they survived?) know what they are doing and are exposed to little to no risk because it's all calculated. 

I do recommend you take a gander at the definition of gambling.  The phrase hope a certain outcome occurs strikes me as similar to someone who buys crypto and holds it short term in Hopes that it goes up.  But heyho maybe the people who defined gambling are wrong who knows
6380  Economy / Speculation / Re: On short-term traders on: June 12, 2019, 09:27:31 PM
As the saying goes, you can take a horse to water but you can't make him drink. I can show you the direction but I can't make you see the point. I can't accurately tell what the price of Bitcoin will be in 2 weeks (or whatever), but that doesn't mean that I will be gambling on it. If I toss a coin (not necessarily bitcoin, though) and make a trading decision based on the outcome or just make a wild guess about the future price, that will be gambling (but if I'm an expert trader, the latter wouldn't count). Anything else which involves a calculated decision (or an educated guess if you please) won't be

Will answer other interesting posts later

Since some sports betters are experts or make educated guesses on their bets that means they aren't gambling?  Are you disputing the actual definition of gambling now  Shocked

They are not, naturally

Tossing a coin is gambling and rolling a dice are unless you can skew the odds in your favor somehow. Experts in the field are doing exactly that by exploiting their expertise. They are not gambling, i.e. they are not relying on chance alone (which is the actual definition of gambling). Technically, even if you toss a coin or roll a dice using some obscure theory which allegedly allows you to predict the outcomes, you won't be gambling. Indeed, we know in advance that with these games of chance no theory is going to help you out but no one promised you that your theories would be correct (though who knows and it may help after all)

So if I put a blindfold on and pick a team to win that's gambling, but if I use analytics about teams, players etc and skew the odds in my favor(or so I think I am) that's not sports gambling? 
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