Thanks for all the ideas, leaning towards something without the word "coin" in the name, but not ruling anything out at this point. I'll respond to some of the interesting issues brought up sometime tomorrow, after some sleep Tomorrow I'm gonna make a few graphs and create some examples, propose some possible economic ideas an expected outcomes, etc. to attempt to summarize some of the constructive thinking going on in this thread, as well as alleviate some of the confusion associated with the idea of an increasing block reward. If my math isn't failing me right now, it would be an exponential block reward, but not in the way people usually use the word "exponential" as it would not continue to increase at an ever increasing rate. until tomorrow, if you want to look up "square root graph" it will give you a basic idea of what the network block reward would look like over time as the hashrate increases. I think it might be interesting to, in my original post, summarize some of the ideas people are proposing (limited coin mints, unlimited coin supply, a max-cap for block reward (say, 256 was mentioned), however not having a max cap on actual possible supply, etc. And then have a new thread where people can criticize the ideas, give input, perhaps some insight on magic constants, etc. Each idea has its own benefits, perhaps some hybrid system could be devised. (Limited max block reward, but max block reward increases with time? Limited maximum coins, but approaching limit coin would decrease with a square root function, in such a way that in the very middle of the time between launch and last generated coin would be maximum value, etc.) Not sure about the technical side of implementing some of this, but of course if the idea is good enough a way will be found . Well, good to see that we're actually trying something different here You've totally captured my interest. Looking forward to it
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plus, the "always becoming worth less" model of no caps and an ever increasing rate doesn't exactly inspire confidence in buyers, retailers, exchanges, anyone who expects the coin to retain some sort of value.
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I think that having the supply tied by the square root is a good idea. A even better idea is to have no cap at all on coins.
After 20-50 years even though people can still mine and get a lot of coins, the inflation will be really small because the amount of coins in existence will always increase against the amount of coins mined. Because of this there is really no reason to cap or slow down the supply after a set amount of years. The volume of coins over the new coins will always increase thus decreasing inflation.
After a hundreds years inflation would be 0.0001% for example, but even this would be enough to keep people interested.
I really like this idea. If you add a cap then I think you will miss out on something important.
While the forward thinking is awesome, don't you think people would get kind of weirded out if they used to mine with 100 SQC (yes, I'm using my own name) rewards and suddenly everyone with a CPU is getting 1000 SQR a block? I don't think perminant exponential reward growth would help the coin to be adopted and used to that it's relevent for that long, even if it's mathematically ideal
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Basically, if ASICs hit for Scrypt, the coin reward would go up, and naturally over time as hardware like GPUs gets faster the block reward will go up as well, but the square root means at some point it will reach a maturity point where large amounts of added hashing power have little affect on the reward. This seems like a good enough effect to not need a block size cap. because as u said, hardware will get much faster. soon a teraflop card will be old news. I guess you have a point... but I'd think that once this stability is reached, the coin would take on a bitcoin style difficulty management system, which would just make the hashes harder when some guy comes in with a AMD Radeon 9001X99 Super-Duper-Card GPU @ 999999999 PHs
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Then from that point on, moving up towards X value of coins, (let's say 40 million)
So the total coins in circulation would be about 40 million + Whatever was made before stability
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I'd just be careful about how high the coin generation can get... if the hash rate ever gets to high due to (for example) some sort of ASIC type hyper effienct miner, the coin would be subject to run away inflation... Not sure of the solution to that, but hey, there's 6 weeks
Idea, One could have this sqrt growth until the network reaches a "hash rate of stability" Where the coin reward stops growing, and would remain there. From that point on, it could take on a Bitcoin style halving ritual up to a certain amount of coins (relative to the point at which it reaches "stability", not the initial zero point) I like this idea, problem is determining the magic numbers . . . Well, I'd try to think about what would determine "stable". Some sort of a point at which you could easily say that the coin is well supported and will continue to be mined at a somewhat regular rate. I'd cross compare with other coins, but I suppose that's for later time Just as a random suggeston, how about a maximum of 256 coins per block (square that for a hash rate around 65GHs?) (256^2/1000 = Hashrate in KHs)
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I'd just be careful about how high the coin generation can get... if the hash rate ever gets to high due to (for example) some sort of ASIC type hyper effienct miner, the coin would be subject to run away inflation... Not sure of the solution to that, but hey, there's 6 weeks
Idea, One could have this sqrt growth until the network reaches a "hash rate of stability" Where the coin reward stops growing, and would remain there. From that point on, it could take on a Bitcoin style halving ritual up to a certain amount of coins (relative to the point at which it reaches "stability", not the initial zero point)
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I'd just be careful about how high the coin generation can get... if the hash rate ever gets to high due to (for example) some sort of ASIC type hyper effienct miner, the coin would be subject to run away inflation... Not sure of the solution to that, but hey, there's 6 weeks
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I was looking online for domains ending with 'coin' and it's seems like people are registering anything with coin at the end. Someone who loves to register at Godaddy... arrr. It might be a great idea to ditch the whole 'coin' idea and come up with something better.
SQRcash.com SQRbucks.com Etc. ? -MarkM- http://www.checkdomain.com/cgi-bin/checkdomain.pl?domain=sqrtcoin.com Seems to be available....For now... Maybe SquaReCoin (SRC) ?
Or RooTCoin (RTC)?
Or SQuareRootcoin (SQR) ?
-MarkM-
SqrtCoin? Just ^Coin. As much as I love this, I'm pretty sure that'd be invalid Maybe on a logo?
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SqrtCoin?
SQrtCoin (SQC) ? (Remember, currency symbols are three characters not two. Unless you're aiming at XSC ? (The X means worldwide, pretty much.) -MarkM- Yes, SQrtCoin (SQC) although I'd like the q to stay lowercase in the name (v not that it's my say )
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Maybe SquaReCoin (SRC) ?
Or RooTCoin (RTC)?
Or SQuareRootcoin (SQR) ?
-MarkM-
SqrtCoin?
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How about StratosCoin / Exocoin / Skycoin ? All in relation to levels of the atmosphere (or the sky itself) due to the fact that from the way you say it, it just keeps increasing in a "sky is the limit" fashion.\ Honestly think this is getting a bit crazy, with all of these coin releases (although it's quite profitable...) but good luck
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Sell Order
Amount : 135 Chinacoin Rate : 17 Litcoin per thousand Chinacoin
Thanks
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this is indeed the RAREST crypto coin in the WORLD.
Good thing? Bad thing? Who knows. All I know is it seems that this is slightly impossible XD
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Not that I'm particularly interested in 100000000x coins, but I love bidding for some reason 0.02 BTC
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Has anyone figured out the fix for the increased frequency mod? I really want to put it to use with getting info every minute. Also, Check out my lottery! 99% goes to the winner! plus a .2 BTC bonus since this is the first lottery www.bitcoinlottery.coI paid for a custom mod of the bot that made a lot of improvements, including that one. Maybe thats the way to go for you. Any chance of a release of that lol Anyone know an (possibly free) alternative to this bot? It's really nice, but I'd like for a custom trade frequency (specifically 1/2 hour intervals in case the trend shift back and forward)
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Not so sure about feathercoin's future myself, but that's just me I'll keep my 5770 going here until we find that block. Anyone else want to jump in? Maybe. CryptoCurrencyMiners is online atm, but we haven't had any news here lately, nor have I seen any changes to the website since the 30th. Hope s/he hasn't abandoned the project! I'll throw a few more hashes that way for a little while. But unless CCMiners is actively engaging with the project & getting/keeping more folks on board, I don't see how we're ever going to keep enough hashes around to find that block. kdochoa hasn't mined in days. Brenda, though, is going great gangbusters! I'm sure we're hear something
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CMWuhmJf95k35EdazkrfNNWgCmSch5bfvx Free money @_@
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Not so sure about feathercoin's future myself, but that's just me I'll keep my 5770 going here until we find that block. Anyone else want to jump in?
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