I'm very happy Evan's taken this action. Yes, it's taken guts and it's causing a temporary shuffling of the deck chairs of who's involved, who's no longer wanting to be here (with considerable short term disruption/upset) but he's too good a developer, an entrepreneur and a human being to be taken down
Not to mention more vision in his pinky than most coin devs have with a couple of long range telescopes parked in front of their eyes - plus productivity to boot. It's taken me a while to come to that conclusion but nights like this where you feel like everything's blowing up in your face one minute and then you sit down and start to see how it pieces together the next are probably part of it. It reminds me a bit of when Apple ditched the CD ROMS from their laptops. There was total outcry about it and 100 mile long forum threads about how people had stuck with Apple through thick and thin but this was the last straw. Apple probably never thought twice about it - it was obvious to anyone with half a brain that could detach their emotional bonds to history that that piece of overweight junk that occupied 30% of the physical space for half a percent of the storage space had to go. A couple of years later no-one's even arguing and have probably forgotten which side of the debate they were even on. So it will be here. Good example of these "storms in a tea cup" Toknormal (and yes, most of us are forgetting the incredible insight Evan has....who knows what else is coming!) Eventually this name change will all be forgotten and people that bailed in such sudden disgust and mouth-frothing will wonder what sort of anger management therapy they may need to avoid similar knee-jerk reactions next time. |
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Ok... After my walk and some fresh oxygene, to try to liberate me from my emotional fealing.n I think that people involve in Darkcoin since the bigenning (well at least during the 1rst name change) are emotionnaly affected. It's normal. To see vertoe leaving make me really really sad  , and I admit that he have balls and stick to his ideology. I remember during some discution about implementting DrkTor on masternode, we were the only to think that it should be free, while everyones was seeing $$ in their eyes. So yes there is ideology behind this coin : privacy, liberty, freedom, try to make the world less directed by "power" and more with the heart... I hope that changing the name will not make the ideology behind it change too, otherwhise it will failed. Please learn to type english before u respond so ur comment isnt worth s4it Please learn how to ensure your text doesn't end up inside someone else's quote box. Also there are many people on here for whom English is not their first language. But then, based on how you're behaving, what would/could you possibly know about any "s4it"? |
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DRK is being sold to the government that's why they want to change their name its useless now sell now before u sell ur self
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Exactly so ur post is worth nothing ur only trying to get more $$$ in ur pocket well let me tell u this u wont get any i will lose alllll!
I'm not in any position to acquire more Dash at the moment, so you're completely wrong. I'm considering the enormous potential for the future and Evan's ability to avoid the extraordinary mud and savage character assassination that would have inevitably been part of his experience if we'd stayed with the name Darkcoin. It is an entirely valid move. You won't lose anything unless you panic sell. The name change has assured we will go way way beyond anything even remotely possible with the name Darkcoin. |
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Who decides if darkcoins name should be changed.
Ultimately the market decides but it will need sometime to make up its mind. I truly believe this is for the best and I am more excited than ever to call on businesses for Dash, it will be fun. I will work full time calling to businesses to adopt Dash for the next few months. It is a way easier sell, when I propose Dash people will wait to understand what it is. When I call for Darkcoin they make up their mind before I have time to explain. +100 My experience exactly Minotaur. The name is toxic beyond toxic. It would never have achieved anything like the adoption the world deserves to experience with this technology with the Darkcoin name. It's interesting reading the past few pages. Many of the people that are screaming and baling are also people that openly talk about dark market adoption and express excitement about how this is going to really push Darkcoin to new and higher levels. For me, Evan's announcement virtually directly tackles this, an absolute inhibitor of his work being taken seriously by the mainstream and an absolute guarantee that (with the Darkcoin name) he would eventually be characterised as a criminal and friend of the illicit drug industry, terrorists and pedophiles. For the many that are really pissed off, you've all been so happy to be associated with Evan and you've all been so thrilled with his work, but now when he takes steps to ensure survivability of his work, protect himself and his family's reputation, you scream and throw your toys out of the pram. Really, that's a selfish and terribly narrow minded response. I'm very happy Evan's taken this action. Yes, it's taken guts and it's causing a temporary shuffling of the deck chairs of who's involved, who's no longer wanting to be here (with considerable short term disruption/upset) but he's too good a developer, an entrepreneur and a human being to be taken down (as he inevitably would have been) as the head of the nefarious and illegal activity promoting "Darkcoin". As Dash, the future is exciting and we'll enter thousands of realms we never would have come even close to as Darkcoin. Great work Evan; onwards and upwards! Agreed. You're never going to win 100% of the community with a move such as this but those that made the tough choices are the ones that actually see the long-term picture. So tell me you got 1k $ or euro in ur bag of DRk tell me pls because ur nonsense isnt worth shit I done nee to tele u nuffin....i fink ur lame poast is worf efen les |
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Who decides if darkcoins name should be changed.
Ultimately the market decides but it will need sometime to make up its mind. I truly believe this is for the best and I am more excited than ever to call on businesses for Dash, it will be fun. I will work full time calling to businesses to adopt Dash for the next few months. It is a way easier sell, when I propose Dash people will wait to understand what it is. When I call for Darkcoin they make up their mind before I have time to explain. +100 My experience exactly Minotaur. The name is toxic beyond toxic. It would never have achieved anything like the adoption the world deserves to experience with this technology with the Darkcoin name. It's interesting reading the past few pages. Many of the people that are screaming and baling are also people that openly talk about dark market adoption and express excitement about how this is going to really push Darkcoin to new and higher levels. For me, Evan's announcement virtually directly tackles this, an absolute inhibitor of his work being taken seriously by the mainstream and an absolute guarantee that (with the Darkcoin name) he would eventually be characterised as a criminal and friend of the illicit drug industry, terrorists and pedophiles. For the many that are really pissed off, you've all been so happy to be associated with Evan and you've all been so thrilled with his work, but now when he takes steps to ensure survivability of his work, protect himself and his family's reputation, you scream and throw your toys out of the pram. Really, that's a selfish and terribly narrow minded response. I'm very happy Evan's taken this action. Yes, it's taken guts and it's causing a temporary shuffling of the deck chairs of who's involved, who's no longer wanting to be here (with considerable short term disruption/upset) but he's too good a developer, an entrepreneur and a human being to be taken down (as he inevitably would have been) as the head of the nefarious and illegal activity promoting "Darkcoin". As Dash, the future is exciting and we'll enter thousands of realms we never would have come even close to as Darkcoin. Great work Evan; onwards and upwards! Can people STFU up with Dash already? It's a garbage choice. If it was anything even remotly reasonable we wouldn't see dumps like we haven't seen in months. Dash is done, move on to another name for the rebranding. What a bunch of fools. In your opinion. But that's all it is, your opinion. Plenty of other people think it's perfectly fitting and will work a treat. |
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Who decides if darkcoins name should be changed.
Ultimately the market decides but it will need sometime to make up its mind. I truly believe this is for the best and I am more excited than ever to call on businesses for Dash, it will be fun. I will work full time calling to businesses to adopt Dash for the next few months. It is a way easier sell, when I propose Dash people will wait to understand what it is. When I call for Darkcoin they make up their mind before I have time to explain. +100 My experience exactly Minotaur. The name is toxic beyond toxic. It would never have achieved anything like the adoption the world deserves to experience with this technology with the Darkcoin name. It's interesting reading the past few pages. Many of the people that are screaming and baling are also people that openly talk about dark market adoption and express excitement about how this is going to really push Darkcoin to new and higher levels. For me, Evan's announcement virtually directly tackles this, an absolute inhibitor of his work being taken seriously by the mainstream and an absolute guarantee that (with the Darkcoin name) he would eventually be characterised as a criminal and friend of the illicit drug industry, terrorists and pedophiles. For the many that are really pissed off, you've all been so happy to be associated with Evan and you've all been so thrilled with his work, but now when he takes steps to ensure survivability of his work, protect himself and his family's reputation, you scream and throw your toys out of the pram. Really, that's a selfish and terribly narrow minded response. I'm very happy Evan's taken this action. Yes, it's taken guts and it's causing a temporary shuffling of the deck chairs of who's involved, who's no longer wanting to be here (with considerable short term disruption/upset) but he's too good a developer, an entrepreneur and a human being to be taken down (as he inevitably would have been) as the head of the nefarious and illegal activity promoting "Darkcoin". As Dash, the future is exciting and we'll enter thousands of realms we never would have come even close to as Darkcoin. Great work Evan; onwards and upwards! |
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Not only is Evan going to prison, anyone operating a masternode is too. It's a brave new world, too bad you idiots misplaced your trust in the shittiest of shitcoins (drk)
definetely a young fool young and incredibly jealous fool with (as you pointed out qwizzie) very very low troll efficiency because he's constantly helping to bump the thread up the altcoin section of BCT so more and more people will come to the Darkcoin thread, see the obvious trolling desperados hard at work and then realise Darkcoin has a lot going for it. Yep, pretty much definition of "fool". (but we still understand Adam....we understand you) |
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Adam, it's lovely to see you here. You see, what's perfectly obvious about your presence and your need to throw mud is that Darkcoin has you wobbled. It has you in a twist. It's that hook that reaches right into your gut and tugs on your jealousy strings. Jealousy - Jealousy is an emotion, and the word typically refers to the negative thoughts and feelings of insecurity, fear, and anxiety over an anticipated loss of something.
So instead of looking for ways to better your position through a valid engagement in something profitable and useful (like Darkcoin for example), you're attacking Darkcoin and the Darkcoin community. Not very grown up is it? Well, we know you're feeling these feelings. We get quite a few people like you coming in here and vomiting their insecurities everywhere. It's okay. You'll eventually find your way. In the meantime though, we're all just going to keep on doing what we do and Darkcoin's just going to go from strength to strength. So while you can keeping slinging your mud and derision, all you're doing is making this community stronger and more determined. So maybe you'd better think about your approach and whether there's something more useful in life you could be focussing your attention on? Yep, you got me. I'm jealous over an instamined, centralized shitcoin whose main developer is a known criminal destined for prison. You and the rest of the cheerleaders need to give yourselves a pat on the back  Oh good. So glad you've been able to see what you're doing. Good on you Adam! |
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Adam, it's lovely to see you here. You see, what's perfectly obvious about your presence and your need to throw mud is that Darkcoin has you wobbled. It has you in a twist. It's that hook that reaches right into your gut and tugs on your jealousy strings. Jealousy - Jealousy is an emotion, and the word typically refers to the negative thoughts and feelings of insecurity, fear, and anxiety over an anticipated loss of something.
So instead of looking for ways to better your position through a valid engagement in something profitable and useful (like Darkcoin for example), you're attacking Darkcoin and the Darkcoin community. Not very grown up is it? Well, we know you're feeling these feelings. We get quite a few people like you coming in here and vomiting their insecurities everywhere. It's okay. You'll eventually find your way. In the meantime though, we're all just going to keep on doing what we do and Darkcoin's just going to go from strength to strength. So while you can keeping slinging your mud and derision, all you're doing is making this community stronger and more determined. So maybe you'd better think about your approach and whether there's something more useful in life you could be focussing your attention on? |
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He isn't asking you to track his web traffic so why are you asking him to track yours? Why is it not possible for you guys to directly answer a question or take a challenge? He's asking you to track coins sent from one address to another. Who the fuck cares about the rest of your net traffic. Break the anonymous transaction.
You sure are good at playing dumb. But just in case you're not: Smooth's point is that just because your system is secure against regular folk doesn't mean it's invulnerable to greater threats with more access and resources (ISPs, large corporations, governments, etc.). Just like you can't deanonymize smooth's web browsing, he can't identify your transactions. Does that imply either are truly anonymous or secure? Nope. Is this starting to make sense to you? This is why "put up or shut up" is an argument for retards: Link my bitcoin address to my identity. Go ahead, Kuriso. Can't you do it? If not, then I guess we don't even need darkcoin, right? Just more of the same. FFS! You people are unbelievably determined to keep moving the conversation off onto a tangential angle away from the issue at hand to a whole raft of other hypothetical possibilities that are so far out in "one in ten trillion" land it's a pointless exercise. No one is saying Darkcoin's anon is "for regular folk", its anonymity is ANONYMITY.....period. Demonstrate to us HOW Darkcoin's anonymity can be broken. It's simple.....it's what this thread is about.....it's what's troubling you all just SOOO MUCH! Do it.....or SHUT UP.....that's the whole point of this thread and all your other stuff is just rhetoric and a never ending attempt to discredit Darkcoin. Lame....so lame. |
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You people realize that when you make a purchase with your anon coins, if you are buying something that has to be shipped, which would be most of your online purchases, they have your fucking address! Unless you are doing face to face transactions with no personal information exchanged AND you are wearing a mask while doing it, you're not going to be anonymous....
Totally. It’s significant to this debate that Darkcoin had ring signatures on its roadmap and decided against implementing them (for now) because of adverse practical issues associated with their use - in particular the bloat problem. Cryptonote fanatics (In particular, Monero devs) have their heads stuck so far down the cryptography manhole that they’ve lost sight of all monetary objectives other than “hiding from the NSA”, which isn’t even a monetary objective. A bit like a formula 1 car designer that becomes so obsessed with the tyre tread that they forget to make the car light and get lapped in the first round (as Monero has been by Darkcoin). We’re talking about money here. The goal is to address a particular monetary property - fungibility, the only property in which Bitcoin is deficient - as well as financial privacy and to do that at least as well as the current fiat banking system (which is not the least bit opaque as far as NSA et al are concerned). At this moment, Darkcoin’s implementation of anonymity suits a cryptocurrency far better than cryptonote does because it supports all immediate commercial design objectives and leaves options open for the future. In addition to that, it supports the oldest boost to reliability known to man - multiple redundancy. If you want commercial privacy, use a standard number of rounds. If you want super anonymity just put it through the full 16 rounds. Contrary to what highly conflicted Monero coin developers would have you believe, useful modern cryptography was not invented 4 years ago, it was invented about 70 years ago and a myriad of successful implementations of every conceivable type have been in use ever since. More specific monetary-oriented cryptographic algorithms came along in the eighties so even those have been around for 30 years. Also contrary to what conflicted Monero devs would have you believe, there is more than 1 solution that satisfies the design objectives of a bitcoin-based currency which addresses the fungibility and privacy issue. Success will not go to the solution that has the most modern cryptography - or even the most secure - but the one that best addresses all of the priorities across the board. For me, that is Darkcoin by a mile right now. Whatever amounts of sand get thrown in its devs’ and its community’s face over hypothetical security scenarios it still has way more forethought and relevance across the whole offering. In addition, having read all of the challenges in this thread I think its security model is well in excess of what’s needed for the role it has to fulfil. A far more realistic weakness than ‘NSA tracing your transactions’ for example is simply some 3rd party buying up the coin supply and that’s something that applies to all coins / mining power / you name it. Cryptographic priorities aren’t the biggest issue here - monetary ones are. So before deciding what’s the optimal design cryptographically you need to decide what’s the optimal one monetarily and how much difference a legacy compliant blockchain makes because everything else flows from there. What's it Worth ?Monero staff have made a clusterfuck of a PR job for their coin in this thread by attacking Darkcoin’s anonymity approach because it’s a straw man. The real question is not Darkcoin’s anonymity approach, it’s its legacy compliance approach and how much that’s worth. A year ago that wasn’t clear but now it’s crystal clear - Bitcoin’s marketcap has continued to prevail over all alts. Darkcoin’s cap was sustained, Monero’s tanked. None of the alts have made a dent in Bitcoin’s cap despite being more advanced technically. So legacy compliance IS worth something big according to the market and in that regard it will accept the optimal anonymity solution if it wants a high-privacy version of it. So critics can keep on pulling on that (it’s not secure !!) chain - it won’t matter because Darkcoin has the right solution for what it’s trying to do at the moment and it’s only likely to consolidate from here according to the conclusions of last year’s alt-coin arms race.  And, as you can see from Toknormal's brilliant analysis above (tremendously well articulated and he even knows how to use grammar properly.....my kind of guy) we have highly intelligent people within the Darkcoin community who are constantly thinking through the bigger picture on how all this stuff hangs together and what the higher level considerations are to making an anonymous digital currency. This (Toknormal's observance of the need for focus on sound monetary objectives) is what separates Darkcoin from Monero and the other 13 or so wannabe anon coins and why Darkcoin's market cap is more than 5½ times that of Monero. We're thinking about, and considering, the overall landscape of qualities, attributes and the robustness/integrity of the architecture against the commercialisation and real-world adoption issues rather than taking this "head down the cryptography manhole" approach that has you caught up in pedanticism and the never ending need for obtuse muddying of this thread's main point. And, I would put it to you smooth and others, it's what's getting so far up your collective noses that you need to partake in such obviously childish attempts to discredit Darkcoin, the Darkcoin devs and community. As per previous postings and what people are constantly pointing out. Demonstrate how the anon transactions can be deanonymized and traced or STFU! |
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It is a challenge to you to put up or shut up.
OK then, I'll be happy to, just as soon as you demonstrate how you can track my web browsing the way google, etc. do. OR, alternatively, you could claim that because YOU, personally, can't track my web browsing, it must be private and anonymous. Which is it (as I have nothing more of substance to put forward so I'm reverting to the old 'turn the tables' and putting it onto you to prove stuff to me)? I'll assume neither, but certainly correct me if I'm wrong. To that end he's my new "product" -- Smooth's Unbreakable Anonymous Web Browsing (who needs Tor?) Step 1: Wave your hands over your computer and think positive thoughts. Step 2: Say a prayer to the Flying Spaghetti Monster that your browsing today remains private. Now, here's the good part. If you think my product doesn't work go ahead and put up or shut up: Deanonymize my browsing! Can't do it? I guess my product must be good after all. I should start selling it to suckers right? Reality check dude. If you are disclosing information to third parties (which IMO dark does), and it isn't protected by strong and well-vetted cryptography (which IMO dark doesis not), IMO it isn't secure. Fixed it for you. Over and out. |
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GO AND "BREAK" DARKCOIN'S ANONYMITY THEN COME BACK TO US.
THE ABOVE IS A FALLACY, AND A PARTICULARLY STUPID ONE. I can't track you on the web and record and correlate nearly every web site you visit they way Google, Facebook, your ISP, the NSA, and hundreds of little companies nobody has heard of in the internet tracking and data brokering business can and do. Nor can I track every electronic financial transaction you make the way Visa, MC, banks, the NSA, IRS, etc. can and do. That doesn't make these systems private and anonymous just because they aren't wide open to some random idiot. Likewise, DRK's architecture for "anonymity" is a flimsy house of cards that provides only an illusion of anonymity whether or not I personally can unravel a conjoin transaction or two. The above is not a fallacy nor is it stupid. It is a challenge to you to put up or shut up. More muddying of the waters and obfuscation of what this thread is about and a never ending need on your part to just keep going on and on without any substance or proof of what you're talking about does nothing for your credibility or integrity. The OP Evil Knievel started this thread with: Here I will tell you, how I think one can deanonymize every single darksend transaction from beginning of Darkcoin up to now.
Maybe someone of you guys can comment on this!
He laid out the steps of how he thought this would work. Then Evan Duffield responded and negated what the OP was portending with: Since then people like you have come on here and put forward copious amounts of FUD and general negativity about Darkcoin's architecture and the nature of the Darkcoin community's belief that it is valid and does offer the anonymity being claimed. What you need to do now is what Evan suggested: If you believe it's really a weakness you need to map the outputs to the inputs and show who's anonymously spending money on what.
Until you do this and can demonstrate how it's done, and how it can be repeatably and reliably done, you are just blowing a whole lot of hot air that carries no substance or authority as it's just your opinion. So your "THE ABOVE IS A FALLACY, AND A PARTICULARLY STUPID ONE" is a statement that (once again) is about you avoiding needing to back up your claims with proof and documentary evidence and does nothing to further confirm this thread's core suggestion which is "Darkcoin is NOT Anonymous? Possible Proof inside". What you think about "Google, Facebook, your ISP, the NSA, and hundreds of little companies nobody has heard of in the internet tracking and data brokering business can and do" is completely and utterly irrelevant to the debate at hand which is that Darkcoin's Darksend transactions can be deanonymized. I won't be responding to you again because all of your posts are about shifting the conversation onto a tangential issue or set of issues and obfuscating so you don't ever have to prove or confirm anything (and not to mention they're a ridiculous waste of time). And it's all your opinion, not the proof that was being suggested potentially is here which, although was being proffered by Evil Knievel, you have added to with a whole lot of rhetoric that you need to substantiate. So again, put up or shut up. That means "show and demonstrate" how Darkcoin is not anonymous. When you do this and can reliably and repeatably trace transactions I (and no doubt many other Darkcoin proponents) will be very interested and ready to take your counsel on what is wrong with Darkcoin's anonymity. |
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I've read through this thread.
Good grief! What a tedious, boring, pedantic and ridiculously unnecessary waste of time!
"Smooth" and others who just want to rubbish Darkcoin and bring never ending suggestions to the table of it being terribly flawed, UNTIL you have broken the anonymity and can demonstrate how it can be done and shown a repeatable process, your words and innuendo of Darkcoin being susceptible to all these issues are just words and innuendo, nothing more (but certainly copious quantities of).
Frankly you need to put up or SHUT THE F%^* UP!!!
What an incredibly verbose, long winded and torturous series of posts smooth!
Can you like just put a sock in it ffs?!!
WHEN you've proven Darkcoin has these fatal flaws and WHEN you've demonstrated how to repeatably break the anonymity THEN you have something important to say and people from the Darkcoin community will be very interested and thankful to you.
But at the moment you're just peddling conjecture, rubbish, absurdity and pontifications (let's see Conjecture, Rubbish, Absurdity and Pontifications....CRAP!....yep, you're just peddling CRAP!)
PS - And pleeaassseee! For the sanity of all of us, don't come back with yet another long winded rebutal and pontification about how what I'm saying is not addressing what you're saying blah blah (OMG, I think I need to watch the 10 hour "tra la la la lah" Youtube guy) blah. GO AND "BREAK" DARKCOIN'S ANONYMITY THEN COME BACK TO US.
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Although the BTC-e trollbox has many people with little comprehension of what's going on, it's an interesting exercise tuning in there every so often to feel the pulse of "regular world" crypto, what they believe is hot and what's not. Here's yet another gem of dear-in-the-headlights confusion around LTC and why DRK is outpricing it:  Well you'd better believe that "pruce" Bruce cause things are not going to get any better for LTC going forward whilst its development has languished so badly and DRK powers ahead. |
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Please RT if you're on Twitter.
WHAT ?? DRK ON BTC-E ?!?! Holy Smokes. LTC holders must be shaking badly right now. Congrats DRK !! Booo-ya!! DRK's not listed there nor btce made a statement about going to add it. What are you guys talking about? Gosh how rumours can form into a bubble then lift-off under their own power and start floating upwards! I'd say Tao is just putting out a great visual feast of an image to get BTC-e's attention! Well done Tao. Brilliant graphic and campaign. |
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Finally my MN just got paid! Last payment was early on 25/Feb/2015 so I was starting to think it would never come!
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So guys... What is the plan?
What to do with my 4K SPR?
Take 0.2 BTC and run?
Or wait that aliens implement master nodes?
Consider your investment gone and hold the spr. Thats what I'm doing. Well that what I was thinking... Anyway what I'll do with 0.2 BTC? I'll buy what hmmm like14 DRK with that? lol If I consider that in one year it'll be 100$/DRK .... Don't know... Bit drk could be the same or worse and spr could be 100 per Sorry but I'm a DRK core suporter so... Don't agree with you ... Sell if you want, but I think you will regret it. lol... I'll keep my SPR, I don't care about 0.2 btc. I already have 3 time more drk.. 14 more DRK is not the point. But I don't think that SPR will go anywhere... Even if HE re-appear the damage is done... End of the story...  I think you're right Lebubar. It's admirable that people are stepping forward to try and grab hold of this and make it work. But a project like this needs a leader, a visionary. And it really needs to be one leader, one visionary, one driver, not a loose collection of individuals that's effectively a "committee" development team. I know everyone compares what's happened with SPR to what happened when Satoshi left Bitcoin, but that situation and what's happened here are two completely different scenarios. Bitcoin was far more established (even though it was still fledgling in many ways) and it was a break through development that many people saw as being too important (i.e. there was more momentum around the fact that bitcoin was completely revolutionary). By comparison in many ways SPR has no clear purpose to exist. It was somewhat confused from the beginning with the choice by Mr Spread to not implement Darksend but instead focus on masternodes and InstantX. Without an anon focus, one wondered what it would be for then. fast transactions aren't enough for a coin to get adopted, there needs to be other attractive functions and capabilities. I think it's great that coins101 is exploring so many different potential uses of the masternode network (and I really hope he's successful with some angle), but it also highlights all too starkly that SPR doesn't have a definitive purpose or direction. This is it's glaring problem that will only get worse as the weeks go by. |
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Well if you see what happens with Drk is that it will slowly drop again like it did without those walls,it will find a new bottem again and will stay in that zone.
what the new bottem will be i dont know,if you have lots of money just buy and setup masternode's,if you dont have a big budget wait and see what happens in 2 weeks and further.
DRK always found a stable bottom before Otoh's walls. As you say, lets see what the next two weeks has in store. In the meantime, I expect that we will see some movement today first. There is still a 20,000 DRK buy wall on Bitfinex, it's not going anywhere. Since the wall was removed on Cryptsy the price has increased on very high volume, like 12,000 DRK, this is an experiment to see how well the price holds with just the one anti dump wall atm. Good on you Otoh! I can see your wall there when I'm logged in to Bitfinex. That's about all I know how to do. Yes, Sub-Ether, I think it is an intelligence test. So far, I've failed! |
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