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641  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to play gambling in a smart way? on: June 20, 2017, 06:49:16 AM
Gambling is either you win or lose and its a game it depends on the player when to quit the game.But in a smarter way dont put all for betting.Set aside the capital then everytime of winnninng keep on pocket so that your money is in safe  and secured.You donnt go home a loser but a winner.

Good strategy but I think you can't always keep you capital because you can't win all the time. But if you keep on winning then its sounds good to keep your capital. But if you are loosing then you can't quit because you are also thinking of recovering you looses.
yeah the problem always on how good you manage your bankroll , a lot of people experienced lost their previous profit in the end. as gambling are nearly impossible to make it profitable in the long run. the odds always against you , and even you are lucky enough i'm not sure for how long you can survive.
Not only how good you manage your bankroll but how good you to select the time because in gambling you need to win as fast as possible if don't you will loses. did you ever hear many gambler end with loses because they choose to play in long term. that's why i said smat selecting the time is how to play gambling in a smart way.
642  Economy / Gambling / Re: Investing in btc casinos on: June 20, 2017, 06:21:10 AM
I had an experience investing in the bankroll of betking and bitvest. Though there is a profit in long run, I couldn't help holding my coins on slow passive earning.
Withdrew all, lost some on bets and spent others.
Overall It's good if you can invest some and forget for some months to years.

It is like investing in Mutual funds, if you want to get high returns in a short time then it is of no use. You have to be patient and knowledgeable about everything in details. You have to invest little by little for a long time then you will yield maximum.

Mutual funds are subject to market risk but its not same as investing bitcoins in casino. If you are sure with your goal then you can invest in any casino. Currently i know of only one with leverage system and also most transparent investment system and that is YOLODICE.

Investing money in bitcoin casino bankrolls are also higher risk than investing money in mutual funds. Because if some big whale wins a huge amount, then the investor may need to wait for quite long time to see the profits. So the best way tot reduces these risks don't put all your money in any single casino bankroll instead put it in few good casino bankrolls then these risks will reduce.
Yeah I agree investing in a casino has a bigger risk than investing money in a mutual fund because if you invest in a mutual fund through a bank, I think it's pretty safe. The bank has selected several companies that have good potential.
643  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How much risk in bitcoin investement ? on: June 19, 2017, 09:11:51 AM
I just wanted to know that,what amount of risk is there in investing in bitcoins.
Right now i am planning to buy btc approx 3-4 btc and just hold them as i guess the price of bitcoin will increase in future and i will get some good profit.But i want to know what is the risk involved.Can bitcoin price decrease and is this right time to buy the bitcoin.
There is no actual answer to your question, because Bitcoin is a project and it is speculating and cannot fall down in price so soon.
 Buying Bitcoin has no actual time to say is it good I buy now or I wait latter, now might be a good chance to buy and wait to sell later or buy later and keep it.
Every investment has a risk and we must think about it before investing. If you do not think about how big the risk you will get then do not ever expect to be able to get a  profits because in investment is very important for us to determine when it's time to buy and when it's time to sell.
644  Economy / Speculation / Re: Sold on: June 19, 2017, 08:46:15 AM
I sold about 10% of my stash. I'm not sure whether the bubble has burst or not, but I decided I'll take some profit (bought at sub $100). We might see $5000 or $10000 in the next few days, but I'm pretty sure the price will go down to $1500 (or even lower) at some point in the next few months or next year, and that's when I'll buy more. If that doesn't happen then it's fine, I'll invest in something else.

What do you think of my decision?
It is a good decision that you sold only 10% of your stash. If you would sell 100% that would be a bad move.
As you said there is a very high chance that we will see $10000 in the future, but I don't expect that happen in the few next days.
I am sure that after next halving price of Bitcoin will be around $15000-$2000 - of course if nothing crazy would happen in the meantime, for example scaling upgrade fail.
Yes I agree with you, the decision he took was very good. only sold 10% of his stash because he was not sure of bubbles he might think that the price of bitcoin is now quite high and I'm pretty sure there are many who agree with me. But 10% is very little to invest why he does not sold 30-40% of his stash because if the bubble really comes he will get a good profits and if the dump comes he can cover by selling the remaining of his stash.
645  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Getting started with sports betting! on: June 19, 2017, 08:37:33 AM
   I plan to start with sports betting. I know there is many threads about betting on sports here, I read most of them, but I`m interested in which site have the minimal bets.
   -Cloudbet.com
   -Sportsbet.io
   -Nitrogensports.eu
   -Betcoin.ag
   -Lunarbets.eu
   -Directbet.eu

   All this sites are looking great on first look, but I don`t wish to register on each one of them just to check how much is the minimal bet. I also wish to ask how much is your minimal bet per match or per betting slip (did I say this good? I`m not so familiar with some sportbetting terms in english, when I stuck on something I will ask for specific words or terms in the future), and do you bet more on goals, half-times, results, or name it yourself.
   I`m looking forward to read everything you have to say about this.
 
Each site has a minimum limit for betting no matter it is a casino, dice game, sports betting. You can see it easily because specifically for their sports gambling site it will show you, what is the minimum bet before your bet is approved.
646  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does experience matter in gambling? on: June 19, 2017, 08:31:56 AM
It will always matter, why im saying because there are people wich does studies the market, the teams, collect information and them make their bets, while newbies just bet without any information, sure the lucky is the key of the sucess at the most gambling but strategy and information will always let you with better ods to win.

It depends on what are you going to play for, if it is for profit then it might be useful however if it is only for fun then I dont see how this is useful. I play for fun so I dont need to think of anything while I do that, I want to have as much fun as possible thats why I dont want to care about the result and only want to enjoy playing
But whatever you are looking for, profit or fun. I think have experience in gambling is really matter because it will help you to determine something like 'when you must start to bet,how many the value of your first bet,etc.'
647  Economy / Gambling / Re: BETTING SITES TO AVOID on: June 19, 2017, 08:24:20 AM
I think that mostly we can find out whether the site is good by the trust of the author of the official casino's OP. If that is not enough, we  can go to scam accusations thread. It is also better to avoid new casinos with unconfirmed payments, because newbies could not have recieved negative trust yet but this doesn't mean the site is not a scam. For example, hcoinloto gives you the sum in equivalent of 50$ (you can't withdraw it) to try their lottery. And every hous there are people who won but no payments confirmed and no escrow.

Better to just play to online casinos that have many players and are established in the market already. Don't ever take chances and risk to sites that are not known yet and just wait if there will be reviews and many players that will play on that site in the near future.

If we go to vegas you will find many casinos, and the one that makes you feel most comfortable will be a good choice! the same goes for online! sure the owner or dev or whoever runs the place is also to justifiably be considered but if you dont like the lag or the graphics or the games then its kinda obvious to use your mouse and click till you find a place to call home!
Sorry we are here talking about online gambling sites instead of real casinos if we want to gamble on a real casino, I think we do not have to worry about it because we certainly will be paid if we win. It's different with online gambling sites, we must carefully to choose before playing in one of the site.
648  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What's your favorite game provider? on: June 18, 2017, 07:21:13 AM
If you care about the game provider, it will have an impact on you. I mean like you can almost always win if you have one favorite game provider. we should not care about that because there is a lot game provider and i think what we must to know before gambling if this site is fair or not.
649  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What do you feel when win in gambling? on: June 18, 2017, 07:13:45 AM

I felt happy and nervous at the same time because i might bet it again to gain profit.

well i am not a gambler so i do not know that what is the feeling of winning gambling but still few of my friends are gamblers so we they win in gambling at that day they are very happy and satisfy and at that day they enjoy very much and celebrate their winning and after that they always feel nervous and fear because they thought that whether they will win again or not.
It is a natural thing always faced by gamblers when we want to gambling because they never know will win or lose, that's why in here said we must have a sense of satisfaction or another so as to make us feel our winning even for a moment.
650  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What do you think about Casino with 0% Edge? on: June 18, 2017, 07:07:15 AM
I just found out about this project of Casino that will be opened and it has 0% Edge and I just thought, seriously, why we pay an edge in online Casinos?

I mean in Traditional Casino they need this Edge money for all the environment and all the feeling, a lot of employees and all the little things they give to us but in Online Casino, we don't get this, so why we need to pay? For them to be rich? Just this idea really annoys me.

I really hope this project will work out!
From where you heard the news, it is very unlikely they will open an online casino with 0% house edge then from where they will get a profit if not taking that's because house edge is their main source of income. i'm not sure this project will come out.
651  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: When to leave the game? on: June 18, 2017, 06:55:35 AM
The only thing that comes in my mind when I already read your question is when I am winning. When I am winning then I think it is a good point to just leave the game and secure the profits and try again after a few days so I will not regret it and I will not miss the chance to get a lot of profits and prevent from losing money in gambling.
Strongly agree but a few people who think like that, human nature always wants to get more. As I said some time ago the greedy nature will come up when we are winning and sometimes it can make us not feel the money of victory. we not leave even know this is the time for us to leave gambling for a while.
652  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How can gambling help you with your life? on: June 18, 2017, 06:52:43 AM
There are times in one's life that you will need a quick cash to do something very urgently, most of the times people resort to gambling and they may win the money that they need. This kind of scenario happens for some time to time but not always, at times you end up losing and being in debt.
It's that easy that you think that getting money from gambling is so easy. This is why people can become addicted to gambling because people like them think gambling can give easy money for them, we need to know that gambling can only help us when we are in a stressout so we can relax for a moment by playing gambling.
653  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: June 17, 2017, 11:11:10 AM
I think Donnarumma should play with Juventus, if he would keep himself in touch of Buffon then he could learn many things from the legend of Italy side, so if he decides to leave his current club then I don't think anything wrong with his decision. In modern football, every player must ambitious to play like legend, one thing we should consider that, money can change anything in this Age...

If he stay in juventus that means there will be no spot for him to showcase his skill. The number 1 position for the goalkeeper choice will always be buffon so I dont think that he should be staying there. He should find a team that will make him their number 1 goalkeeper so he could keep on playing and learn more
Indeed the buffon will still be trusted to be the number one goalkeeper at juventus but he is not young anymore and I think Donnarumma intend to be able to learn from buffon how to be a tough goalkeeper if true Donnarumma moved to juventus.
654  Economy / Gambling discussion / Confederation cup russia 1017 on: June 17, 2017, 07:41:44 AM
Group A:
Russia
New zealand
Portugal
Mexico

Group B:
Cameroon
Chile
Australia
Germany

I've prediction the winner for this competition is germany or portugal because only their is the strongest team.

Frist match saturday 17 june 2017
Russia vs New zealand
655  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Dutch League Prediction Thread (Eredivisie) on: June 17, 2017, 07:36:55 AM
Eredivisie 2017/2018 will officially start on August 11th and end on May 6th 2018.


Here are the matches of the first day:

Den Haag vs Ultrecht
Venlo vs Sparta Rotterdam
Heracles vs Ajax
Psv vs Almaar
Vitesse vs Breda
Zwolle vs Roda
Feyenoord vs Twente
Willem II vs Excelsior
Groningen vs Heerenveen

Ajax and Psv will definitely wanna take revenge on Feyenoord

Feyenoord has taking over the trophy last season but i think for season 2017/2018 would not easy for them as the defending champion they have do more hard works because Ajax and PSV will have same ambition to get the trophy too but for first matches Feyenoord vs Twente i think Feyenoord will through this match with the winning results
Yeah it will always be difficult to defend the champion title but for league like dutch it is very common, ajax and psv is a team that can maintain champion predicate several times.
656  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2017 Football Summer Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: June 17, 2017, 07:33:44 AM
agent from Mohamed Salah is reportedly in London and will make a deal with the liverpool regarding the transfer of Mohamed Salah to Liverpool. Rumors that have tasted very long but still no agreement. But there are also signs that Mohamed Salah will actually be a Liverpool player in the 2017-2018 season. Let's enjoy the rumors.
If it is true liverpool will get Mohamed Salah then liverpool aja very dangerous next season because they have two fast players that is salah and mane and this is exactly as ever klopp do with dortmund. He always wants to have two wing players that are very agile and fast, I'm pretty sure next season liverpool can compete to become the winner of premier league.
657  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread (EPL) on: June 17, 2017, 07:24:04 AM
Premier League 2017/2018 will officially start on August 12th and end on May 13th 2018.



Here are the matches of the first day:

Arsenal  vs  Leicester City
Brighton vs Manchester City
Chelsea  vs Burnley
Crystal Palace vs Huddersfield Town
Everton vs Stoke City
Manchester United vs West Ham United
Newcastle United vs Tottenham Hotspur
Southampton vs Swansea City
Watford vs Liverpool
West Bromwich Albion vs Bournemouth




Hard match for manchester united against west ham and lucky for manchester city against brighton, i bet manchester city will take first place since the competition start.
658  Economy / Speculation / Re: Can bitcoin hit 3500$ in 2018?  ??? on: June 16, 2017, 06:45:39 AM
Hopefully yes, after the dump hoping it will bounce back. i will believe on it history will repeat itself and if that things happen i will be happy. the demand on bitcoin are really increasing and hoping for the price will also increase. so i do save bitcoin so that if the price hits it peak i will earn more.
Whether history repeats itself or not, but everytime once after price​ dump it used to bounce back increasing high than the price from which it falls. This time too the price has fallen at some unexpected time when every user was speculating about bitcoin to reach $3000. So the upcoming pumping will take it towards $3500 and more.
It will always be pumped after disposal but we never know how big the pump will happen and by looking at the current price movement after the disposal some time ago. I think it takes a couple of years to be able to see the bitcoin price could reach $ 3500 because the bitcoin price is already very high.
659  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin heading to $4,000 on: June 16, 2017, 06:34:51 AM
IMO we'll have to wait at least 1 and 1/2 to 2 years before BTC reach $4000. Also August 1st is coming and it makes it even harder to make a prediction.
It might not be that long of a wait because with the amount of news being stored up for Bitcoin within the upcoming months the price could go up to around $4,000 per Bitcoin based on the hype alone. I want to try to have some Bitcoin before that happens.
True I also believe this year bitcoin will reach $ 4000 maybe even up to $ 5000, it is very likely to happen, a lot of things that encourage the rise in bitcoin prices, the legality of bitcoin in some countries makes a very good news to raise the price of bitcoin
Bitcoin price will reach $ 4000 ?? It's very hard to expect that it can happen as we already know it has happened several times big pump but bitcoin price never touches $ 3000 from the average exchanging site. I predict if there is no big news bitcoin prices will be stable in the range of $ 2000- $ 3000 until end of the year.
660  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can gambling be profitable in long term ? on: June 16, 2017, 06:23:47 AM
So after reading this thread the first time back on Page 22 or something I've now tried to only live on gambling for the past 60 days. There's been some crazy ups and downs and an emotional rollercoaster. The Mrs. has not been too happy either.

I believe I've been earning around $150-$450 on a daily basis. Been betting on Sports & eSports and I've been playing a small amount of Casino & Poker.

I have some research and some complete numbers that I can share later on when I'm at my PC. If there would be any interest.

Conclusion: Can gambling be profitable in the long term? - Absoluteley. Is it fun? - Not really, a lot of stress and pressure with a lot of highs and lows throughout the day.

I guess the stress come from the wanting to win.  When we fail to predict the right outcome, it will become frustration or when we fail in our strategy to win the game.  Though I believe gambling is profitable to those who knows the in and out of gambling rules .  Though I think being the owner of a gambling casino can give you more chance of winning or get profit in long term.
Being an owner of a casino or a gambling website surely profits, if it has got a good development team as well has a funding team to popularize and the perfect calculation in odds to have a house edge will surely profit in the long run. Same time there are gambling websites that were much popular in the beginning and went bankrupt in a short. So gambling and owning gambling websites is profitable in the long run, if the person is good to learn from mistakes.

owning an online casino is much profitable in the long run than just being an ordinary gambler. online casino make a profit through the loses of the gamblers - there has to be a winner and a loser between the 2 but, the casino owners have their special weapon to secure profit at the end of the day and that weapon is what we called house edge advantage.
That's the way to play in the gambling world. We use logic, if casino owners do not get a profit in the long run, they can go bankrupt, and if they go broke, how can we gamble in the casino again? So we also should be grateful also with such conditions.


I think you have mistakenly have a mind like that way if we have such thoughts that it's means we already know that we will lose if gambling in a long term what for we're gamble. We do not have to think about whether the casino is profitable or not, because what we have to think about is how we can win at the casino.
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