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6441  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Two Gambling Stories on: December 01, 2022, 03:48:39 AM
I don't mind giving a generous amount to my girlfriend since, well obviously she's my girlfriend, but also because it was her money that made me win that 100 million. It was plain wrong to just give back 10k. But I think I am not legally obliged to cut 40 million off my prize for her. I think I would only give her 10 million.

In the second story, I won't be giving any amount to my boss. Why should I? Does he have a right to a portion of my prize? I don't think he has. I'd be glad to leave my job of that company and start a business of my own with my winning.
After all, she is my girl who accompanies me every day and if I don't give her the winning money, how can we have a more serious relationship? Marrying her is every couple's dream, especially if we can win a lot of money from gambling and we use that money to marry my girl.

In the second story, I prefer to quit my job and pay the company a fine. After all, the fine wouldn't be as big as the winning money I got. Meanwhile, from the winning money, I can create a new business and maybe even bigger than that company.
Yes, you're right, the girlfriend or partner you have is a person who can share everything you have in any way, I also think that having a lot of money without having anyone is something much more devastating and sad, and there are people who they have everything but they don't have the most important thing, because they can't even have a company, so for that reason I think that in these cases things can be different, and if you start living with it, well, not only 10 million, but the 100 million will belong to both of them, although sometimes the woman takes advantage of it much more than the man, in the case of work she would not even have paid attention to that boss, there are people in the world who are very clever, and they are the dumbest out there.
6442  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing]: Jermell Charlo vs Tim Tszyu - Jan 28, 2023 on: December 01, 2022, 03:28:43 AM
^ Correct me if I'm wrong though, isn't it the relationship between Tim and his legendary father is not that good? At least that's how I got it from the news and he has been in boxing without his father's help or influence in his career. So I don't know if he will learn from him father since he is not with his side in any of his fight.

However, Tim can't deny that he has his father DNA and that might be enough to bring him to greatness.

Yes, hard fought match and so it's starts with finding a good sparring partner in order to better prepare him in this fight.

I have not seen that news about Tim, the truth is that if this is so it is very sad because Tim may need the advice and experience of his father, not only the DNA helps here, the boxers in spite of everything have to have a lot of strength of will and have a very high oral, a boxer will always be a person that anything could affect him, some news, even some statistics, although there are boxers that when they see statistics that do not favor them they start to train much harder, and they want to break those numbers, that's something that happens a lot, but only for boxers who have very high morale and who don't care what they say about them, it's different because their personality changes a lot and each person is different.

Ok, news here:

Tim Tszyu moves training camp to the USA

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“I’m going hunting, it’s hunting season,” Tszyu told Fox Sports. “This the biggest challenge there is right now. It’s going to be a big moment in Australian sporting history. I understand everything that’s involved, everything I’m putting on the line, this is why I’m leaving so much earlier. This is why I’ve been busting my arse in the gym the last four months, non-stop. This is all in.”

Source: “I’m going hunting, it’s hunting season,” Tszyu told Fox Sports. “This the biggest challenge there is right now. It’s going to be a big moment in Australian sporting history. I understand everything that’s involved, everything I’m putting on the line, this is why I’m leaving so much earlier. This is why I’ve been busting my arse in the gym the last four months, non-stop. This is all in.”

Source: https://fightnews.com/tim-tszyu-moves-training-camp-to-the-usa/141050
6443  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: December 01, 2022, 03:09:35 AM
Bayern Munich have made the Bundesliga like a toy for themselves. The reason why I think in this way is that they can just dominate the season in every condition. This season started much more different than the previous ones for them as you know. They got really bad results unexpectedly and this gave a chance to some other team to shine in the lead in the league table. But it didn't take a very long time for Bayern Munich to gather themselves up. They started to be as effective as they were in the Champions League.

Being able to do this even without a striker like Lewandowski is a proof of how strong team they are. It proves that they haven't been fully dependent on Lewandowski.

That is the reason why everyone is not very interested in the Bundesliga, because at times Bayern Munich can appear consistently if they want, it is different from the leagues out there, such as the English league, Spanish league, Serie A league, where these three leagues  really no one dominates, unlike Bayern Munich, they can miss easy matches without having to lose their core players, that will make Bayern Munich dominate the Bundesliga every season.

Well, what you say is true, although some are losing interest in this league, I think it is due to the lack of sponsors and that is something essential in any league, if we look at Ligue 1 in France, PSG has the league is totally dominated, and I can tell that just by looking at the table I tell you once and for all that it is something very logical since they have Neymar, Mapppé and Messi, so this indicates that their stars do a phenomenal job and make the other teams look with a less strong level, in the case of the Bundesliga I see it differently since Bayern was below the first place table and Union Berlin, which is a team that almost nobody spoke about, remained in the 1st position for a long time .

When you look at Union Berlin, which is currently in the same slump as Bayern Munich did in several previous matches, they prefer to lose until they come out to the bottom three and now Union Berlin is in fifth place when they get good opponents and are easy to beat. made himself back to compete for the first position.
The first position is already difficult for Union Berlin to get even though the opportunity is still there, but with Bayern Munich continuing to provide consistency in the Bundesliga, other teams will find it difficult to fight for the first position easily, except just hoping for luck to happen to each of them, because Bayern Munich will still dominate the Bundesliga through every match they will play again after the world cup later.
When bayern was finding its best form and then it will be so hard for union berlin to be able to take the first position that already secured by bayern. Berlin needs more than luck to be able to take the first position again. The fact that if these days berlin is still having a problem with its performance. It was performing so bad during the last match. Berlin never win from last three matches in the bundesliga and so thinking about berlin to reach the first position again is impossible thing to happen.
Bayern has been taking the first position and it will be ruling bundesliga until the end of league. This is why it must become the best chance for bayern to make huge gap with competitors.

Well, to tell you the truth, I very much doubt that Union Berlin will take first place again, I don't think it's something very simple, Bayern have a lot to do and prove, so I don't think they will let themselves take first place, besides right now In the German team they are going to show what they are made of, and I think that all that motivation will take them to the match they have both in the Bundesliga and in the UCL, I think that 2023 will start with everything and this will not be an impediment for them to Muller's team is left behind, that will be another level, Bayern also needs another striker to be able to help much more, the hole left by Lewa is not easy to fill.
6444  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia on: December 01, 2022, 02:42:53 AM
I don't know what to say, both are unique fighters. Both have explosively powerful left hands. Ryan Garcia uses a straight guard, but his left hook is very strong. I'm not sure how durable Davis will be if Ryan Garcia hits, but I think he'll be very hard to catch. I think Davis will make more accurate hits. Apart from the hits, according to my analysis, according to the matches I watched, Davis is a unique fighter who fights more intelligently. I bet Garcia will get a TKO this fight.

Ryan was knockdown by Luke Campbell who is not known as a knockout puncher, it just shows that Ryan has a weak spot and a weak chin, and if Gervonta can connect just one punch then the fight is over, Tank can knock out just anybody with a single punch and we have seen that on many of his fight his match with SantaCruz is very terrifying when Leo was knocked out with one single uppercut, Tank can take a big punch, so its Ryan who will be in trouble when they fought.

Well there if you have the whole tree, for me this indicates that if Gervonta Davis can connect Garcia's chin it is something that can be very bad for him, I really don't blame Garcia because I know that a hit there to anyone throws him off, and Of course, in his case I would take care of myself, I wouldn't look for him to hit me there, always in boxing everyone has a weak point, it's where the kidneys are, a blow near the ribs doubles anyone and if he goes with a lot of power because even more so, just like in the genitals, that is something that cannot control the pain and obviously the strength goes elsewhere, however that is why they are boxers, they have to resist all kinds of attacks.
6445  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3 on: December 01, 2022, 01:49:28 AM

Meanwhile, the WBC mandated 122 WBO/WBC champ Stephen Fulton to rematch Brandon Figueroa at 126 for the WBC interim belt. Should Fulton accepts the mandate, his 2 122 belts might become vacant which is a good opportunity for Casimero and even for Inoue. Maybe Casimero and Inoue will fight for a vacant belt right away.

This is good news for both Inoue and Casimero as they have vacant belts which they can look forward to even if they don't meet right away.

I hope this will happen, for sure Inoue will go for that belt and if Casimero will be the best challenger for him, that would make the fight perfect as their supposed fight did not happen in the bantamweight division but it will happen in a heavier division. I'm looking forward to this, let us keep updated on this news, and thanks for sharing by the way.

Guess if that is the case, it's better if Casimero will have the belt in 122 lbs before eventually facing Inoue. Because both could really be motivated to take each other heads off, Casimero again calling for Inoue and if everything went as plan, (him winning against Akaho, Fulton vacating his belt, and then Casimero getting a chance to get a title or eliminator). So lot of good opportunity for Casimero, he just need to take this 1st step of getting a win in this division.

I know that what characterizes a boxer is his self-esteem and his way of always being very positive showing confidence, I don't know if he called Inoue to gain more fame and encourage fans to ask for this fight, and although this could be very good fight, Casimero has to come out very well from the one that he has previously, it is not good sometimes to assume that he will win in any way, for me it is a very high risk that he can make a statement like that, because in a nutshell, he is telling the world that He will win this fight without having won it yet, because in the event that he loses the fight, then the challenge to Inoue will simply not make any sense, at least I see it that way.

Well, I also think that Casimero could be the favorite, there are some boxing forums, under which I read them almost every day, and many Latinos obviously go to Casimero, Akaho is a boxer who can offer a very different style from that of Casimero, obviously what it could be that Casimero is very careful because I think that the one who has the most to lose here for anything is him, from Akaho, as he had said before, he felt very underestimated, because Casimero said that he wanted to after this fight, going for Inoue, practically what he did was say that he would win easily without effort, I think he got into a little trouble.


I agree with you that Casimero has the most to lose here but i also think that he can withstand this hurdle and ultimately win this fight.

I read an article where one of Philippine's boxing analyst said that this fight is a mismatch for Casimero and he said that Akaho's style is tailor-fit for Quadro Alas for the latter to look good in the ring.

Akaho's game plan would be to box and threw those jabs but i don't think that he can sustain that all night and keep Casimero at bay because Casimero is very good at cutting the distance and if he did close the gap, the fight will be over.
Yes, in that you are absolutely right, now if Akaho had his mind to win, I think his desire increased much more, and that is detrimental to Casimero, really a boxer sometimes has to keep his mouth shut, sometimes an act like those who underestimate is a double-edged sword, sometimes it is not good, no matter how much confidence you have in your technique, things cannot be done that way, here Akho must be training much harder than before, and with all the reason, I would also do it to silence him, you cannot be challenging another boxer by hinting that the one you are going to fight has already won that fight, I think that here Akaho can give serious surprises.
6446  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FIFA World Cup 2022 Group Stage Highlights on: December 01, 2022, 01:22:19 AM
Football always brings surprises.
Predictions for Group A
1. Netherlands
2. Senegal
3. Qatar
4. Ecuador


The result of the match has been determined by Qatar vs Ecuador, in my opinion both countries want to buy and sell attacks, even though Ecuador is everyone's favorite, but we have to be wary of the Qatar host game, because they are playing at home so anything can happen in football so , I hope that Qatar can win its first match in this World Cup..
Qatar hosted this year's World Cup on its home turf. So we must count Qatar.We all know that Ecuador is a very strong team. But depriving Qatar from here is also very foolish for us.Because they will never underestimate the game in this field of their home. Of course, Qatar will do whatever it takes to win.We left the win of the first match for Qatar.
Well here I think that the fight was between the Netherlands and Senegal, Ecuador along with Qatar lost the pass to the round of 16, and as I have seen everything I think that the Netherlands can continue advancing in the World Cup, I did know that Senegal was going to pass, and although I really like the football they do in AFRICA and hopefully they continue to do a great job so that the team continues to surprise the world with their good plays, as I said before, I would like Senegal to do everything they have in their hands to continue advancing in the round of 16, Things in this World Cup are getting very exciting, here there is no room for the wrong team.

Much more interesting is the rivalry between Ecuador and Senegal, which will fight directly for promotion. Ecuador is in a better position, as a draw is enough for them. However, I believe Senegal can definitely win and we are in for an exciting match.
The game between Senegal and Ecuador is also in progress and the winner of the match will qualify to the knockout stage with Netherlands which I think will have an easy win against Qatar.

Senegal is leading 1:0 against Ecuador in the first half of the game they will move to the next stage and Ecuador and Qatar will be out of the competition should Senegal maintain the one-goal difference till the final whistle. I believe the African team will hold on the goal and be among the first African team to qualify for the knockout stage if not the first.
Ecuador against Senegal ended 1-2 in favor of Senegal.
Despite losing their first game and having Mane out due to injuries sustained while playing for his club, Senegal was able to go to the round of 16 of the world cup.

I was one of the select few who consistently predicted that Senegal will perform well in this World Cup and qualify, and they have. Senegal deserves praise for becoming the first African nation to advance from the group stage.
Tbh Senegal did excellently well to qualify for the round of 16. Despite losing their star man, they kept the spirit of playing with seriousness. Ecuador had the upper hand to qualify because they needed only a point why Senegal needed a win. It’s surprising how it turned in favour of the Senegal National team.  It’s really a big one for the Senegal team. Commitment, hardWork and teamwork did the trick.

Well here Senegal showed the world that if you can and what you pursue with a lot of effort can be achieved, I really congratulate Senegal for playing a great role in this World Cup, this is an example of never giving up, here in football everything is possible, the work that Senegal did was impeccable, the truth is that Ecuador gave away everything in the first half and when time is wasted and plays in football there is no going back, they didn't have a chance at the last, sometimes you have to leave everything on the field and I think Senegal did it and showed what they are made of, African football is growing a lot, and I hope they continue like this.

Senegal doesn't have it easy anymore, it's their turn against one of the toughest teams in the World Cup:

Senegal next for England as Marcus Rashford stars in victory over Wales



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MARCUS Rashford's brilliant brace helped England reach the knockout phase as group winners and brought Wales' first World Cup appearance since 1958 to an end.

Welsh hopes of progressing were hanging by a thread heading into a Group B finale in which Gareth Southgate's men only needed to avoid a four-goal loss to progress to the last 16.

The 104th meeting of the old foes was the first to be played at a World Cup and England comprehensively won Tuesday's clash 3-0 in the desert as Phil Foden scored either side of Rashford's fine goals.

Source: https://www.irishnews.com/sport/2022/11/30/news/senegal_next_for_england_as_marcus_rashford_stars_in_victory_over_wales-2921852/
6447  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Losing $350,000 because of a friend, what would you do? on: December 01, 2022, 12:54:05 AM
I had a similar incident, although not exactly in this way. It was 4 years ago. A close friend and I had a joint gambling account. When we were gambling, we made joint decisions and acted that way. But one day it didn't happen that way. When I was going to bet equally on two different games, my friend changed his mind according to his own opinion and played with all the money in one game. He did something like this without my knowledge. At the end of this incident, when we were going to have a lot of money, we didn't have any money. As a result, he is still my friend Smiley After this incident, he returned my main money and we ended our partnership. Since then, I have not involved anyone in gambling.
That is why it is better for us not to share our gambling accounts with other people, even our friends, because we do not know when they will use that gambling account. Moreover, if they don't have good self-control, they can use all the money in the gambling account and not ask or tell us about it. This can lead to fights between us and friendships can be damaged because of this little thing. But you are still lucky not to lose that friend of yours and are still my friend.

The account of us in trading must be private and for exclusive use only, you can make a company with meito, that is, you can exchange information but each person must be the owner of their bets and who manages their own account, sometimes when there is money involved, things can become difficult and the person appeals to their emotions and this can lead to misunderstandings, there are people who are very little aware and would not have paid what is owed to them, on other occasions people are more delicate and I would have created a tremendous problem just by making a decision without the consent of the other.
6448  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: A lottery's defense to not paying a huge winning. on: December 01, 2022, 12:30:06 AM
I think it is better to put this on court so it will be fair for the both parties involve, if the company wins and their claims that the player is cheating since as per then he has a history of it then that man should not get is jackpot and also he must be banned in every casinos or gambling site and if the player is correct, that company should pay him as well and pay some damage fee because they are bigger entity than him.
I agree with you there which it is indeed fair for both parties to determine which side is lying and which side is telling the truth. It is hard to know if someone is telling the truth if the supposedly the victim is telling the truth and with evidence unlike if you are telling something without proof of backing up what you want to say. Let's say, you are a scammer and what proof do I have?, Nothing right?. It's also pointless to put it on court if you don't have proof in my opinion. It is much better if you can prove that they are not paying and a proof that no cheat are used.

Well, it's difficult, tests in casinos like that, if they didn't do it, how could it be done then? there in these cases I think that whoever can have the record of those plays would be an additional server that they should have in the casino, but obviously they will not say it, I think that those casinos that rob people how can they survive? of the new players who do not know much and take advantage of them? I have seen that what they do is find a way for more people to enter and it does not stop possible hacking or security problems, I would make many backups of everything that happens in the day, how much was entered and how much was paid and who was the player who lasted the longest and won... the winnings in a casino must be paid to his client, it is the duty to be.
6449  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League 2022/23 Season on: November 30, 2022, 11:59:35 PM
The Europa League means a lot right now for Barcelona fans, I was on Facebook some time ago and there were some memes indicating that they were going to the Europa League, and I know there were other memes where they said they didn't want to return to the Europa League, but here there are several questions, is this Xavi's fault? because very strong games will come, just see Man United (without CR7) who could win? partly if they don't play with CR7 because of the multiple problems they would be very disarmed, and if they put in Maguire it would be a total disaster, then we could say that Barcelona could breathe a little more.

Coming back from world cup straight into europa would have been hard, it's good that we are not going to have it back to back, teams should rest a bit and do just league games for a few weeks before they play serious games. That way everyone would rest a bit, and then they can get back to being the way they are and it would help them a ton.

I personally would love to see it go on even later on, like not even afterwards but more like April or so, and just condense the games quicker, once every week, that would be a lot quicker results and would help the fun be a lot better as well. Because that way we would get both better players that are rested, but also more games for a good 2 months.

Yes, in this order of ideas, as you put it, it can be positive, obviously when you return from a World Cup, the players are very tired and the fact of having a rest in December helps them to recover a lot for their games, I think some they will return with the firm position of winning in their pending games, some will transfer to other teams and others will arrive new ones, this Europa League will be very exciting and I like that, after having a good dose of football in the World Cup, there is nothing Better than being in a rather voluptuous UCL and Europa League, there are many changes in many clubs, and some are in trouble like Juve, Man United.
6450  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: November 30, 2022, 11:22:04 PM
^^ Boxers will always find "personal" reasons to beat the other party, that's why they are motivated. The Taylor vs Catterall became personal to Taylor because he almost lost the fight, when everyone thought that he was invincible at 140 lbs. Of course he has the belt and the unified champion, but everything went wrong on that fight. And there are boxing pundits who see Catterall winning the fight.

And that makes Josh really wanted to get a rematch and shut Jack Catterall mouth for good. And shows everyone that he is still on top of this division although he has given up his 3 belts because it's hard to defend all against mandatory by different bodies.

Well, that's what you say, and as long as there are those rivalries that are very good for us because that translates into the fact that we are going to have some very good matches and that we must take advantage of not losing them, it is good for us, because from the beginning of the year to except for me, I am a person who imagines what fights can happen in the year, and obviously one imagines sometimes these that are quite good, but everything depends on the infrastructure that the managers have, and sponsors to offer us the best shows, then everything is linked there to the best, that is why the boxing industry also survives, because the money that is handled is very high.

There are rumors roaming around the boxing industry that Lomachenco's boxing style would render Devin Haney's defensive style useless.  I could have put the link to the said rumor but somehow I can't find it anymore.  Either way, I am very interested in whether this rumor is true or not so I hope the negotiation between Devin Haney's camp and Vasily Lomachenco's will have a positive result.

I haven't seen the link as well but I will speculate that it has something to do with Loma's amazing footwork and angles, and if Haney wanted to win then he could come up as the aggressor because he is big and tall and has the reach advantage.

On the other hand, there are boxing analyst who says that Loma's performance against Ortiz is not as we have expect of him.

And that Haney is going to defeat him if he shows that version if the two fight next year.

Both camps will continue to review their opponents fighting strategy, though with what you mentioned, I agree that Loma's last performance is not the same old Loma that we use to know, but on my own opinion, I can say that Loma is a skillfull fighter who can adjust with the way his opponents try to bring the fight, he will observe and will come up with startegy.

We might see the best of him again when facing the title holder, a good matchup that we will expect to happen next year.

Well to be honest I think neither of the two boxers should be underestimated, I think Loma's style is different from Hanney's, if it were Loma he would be much more careful, Hanney is undoubtedly one of the most experienced boxers they have, and he would I consider him to be a very high-level boxer, on the other hand, Loma is not a boxer who wants to throw everything away, he is a boxer who will always want to do something good in order to get ahead, although he has had some mistakes in his strategies and that sometimes he can't figure out what it is, I think he has a good chance that he can do it right.

6451  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you have Lucky Casino? on: November 30, 2022, 11:00:44 PM
Having a casino of luck is a very good thing, in part I always play the same, so I can win in one it is equivalent to winning in the usual one, so that is why I prefer stake.com, it is a casino that not only gives me luck, but it has many plans that its players never get bored, they have a great internal forum, they have DRAKE for their live presentations, it is a series of things that make one say or think that yes, it is a lucky casino, My earnings are not very high when I play, in fact here I am fascinated by poker and blackjack, but I could not change the platform or anything, because I know that in this casino I feel that I am quite lucky.
6452  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: It's on! 2024 US Presidential Election Biden+Harris Vs Trump Bitcoin betting.... on: November 30, 2022, 07:08:30 PM
If Biden behaved adequately, then no one would talk about age even if he was 90 years old. But he often looks into the void, goes in an incomprehensible direction and behaves like an old man who is lost. At the same time, Trump is behaving very cheerfully. This difference has been noticeable to everyone in recent years, so part of the voters will not vote For someone, but rather Against the fact that a person with dementia is the president.
In general, it would be good (for American voters) if they had a wider choice, including younger candidates.

With ever passing day, Biden is resembling more and more like a walking corpse. There are conspiracy theories that claim that the original plan from the Democrats was to replace him mid-way through his term with Kamala Harris. But that would be another disaster, given her radical left-wing agenda. For 2024, IMO it would be again Biden vs Trump. Kamala is still unpalatable for the vast majority of the independent voters. And by then Biden will be 81 years old and Trump would be 78 years old. I sincerely hope that the GOP would rather nominate Ron DeSantis.

It's good that in the United States the power is quite centralized and no madman, even if he became president, can break everything. Kamala Harris is rejected by the average voter not only because she is a leftist, but because she seems frankly dumb - she laughs dumbly at any questions and spouts some kind of nonsense. Even AOC looks like an intellectual against her background.
I really think that for now the government of the USA is in a certain normal degree, if in case Donald Trump wins again I don't know how much he would do, but I think it is not convenient for the world to do it, although there is the possibility that be the best mediator between the war in Russia and Ukraine, it can be a catalyst for many things that happen around the world and that cannot be channeled except with changes of government, in the case of Trump, he will change immigration policies again, eventually He will make it clear that he will make changes in his cabinet or in heads of authorities, and he would totally go nuclear.
6453  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Boxing: Errol Spence vs Keith Thurman on: November 30, 2022, 06:12:52 PM
You know what I'll wait on this match? And that is the hype of Thurman and that's the same thing that he has done when he was against Pacman.

It'll bring more hype to this match if he'll do the same marketing as those words that he has said on how confident he is to beat Spence on defending his title.

And when this match is done, is there still possibility that Spence will fight Crawford?

Yes, I think Thurman has still the hype behind his name, although his performance against Barrios is a lot to be question because Barrios is not a legitimate welterweight and he chooses him as his comeback fight. Obviously, he won and then he went on another hiatus.

But this time, for sure Thurman will hype this fight like he did against Manny Pacquiao. He is also a gifted "talker". So who knows, maybe he will sell this fight through his mouth again.

Forget about Spence vs Crawford.
He's a good PR person and that's on his blood already.

The diversion of attention of the fans are now on this match. Okay, there's no more Spence and Crawford because of this match and that's why schedules and deals won't be possible anymore.

Both has good set of records, as Thurman's performance isn't convincing against Barrios. Maybe this time, he'll retrieve himself and will show the expected Thurman that everyone wants.

I'm also expecting that it will be a different Thurman because he will be fighting a champion, who has a 3 belt right now. And Spence is not going to back down from any trash talk, but not sure why there are news that he didn't want to fight Thurman, or at least that's what Crawford is trying to say.

Yes, we no longer interested as of this time to a Spence vs Crawford.

We are now focused on this fight, as we have a lot of very intriguing and interesting fight in the calendar.

With all this, I would like to see a scenario where Thurman wins, what would happen to Spence and the fight against Crawford, and in the hypothetical case Crawford wins the fight? What will happen or what move would Spence make? maybe look for the fight against Crawford to regain moral value and his gfans forgive him? I think that these things can sometimes get hotter than normal, and yes, in this case the fight that was expected between him and Crawford does not matter, but it is in everything we know that it would be an exceptional fight, but in chaos that happens all of the above, would Crawford want or accept the challenge to Spence?


Only if Spence is not interested with the belt that might be the reason these fights won't happen, but if he still wants to be keep the belt, then he needs to fight Thurman. Otherwise, the belt will be stripped of him and be rewarded to Thurman. For me, it's a good fight that many fans are waiting to witness, a title matchup that will give entertainment to all the boxing fans who love seeing both known fighters sharing a same ring and throwing punches with each other.

This will be a good fight and it would be best if we see a close match-up between these two and take the fight up to 12 rounds of boxing I don't know how Spence will knockout Thurman because he seems to learn a lot since he fought Manny and he still has the speed and power. So it is still unpredictable though the odds will be with Spence the chance is still high for Thurman to win this fight. Both are famous and known to be knocking out their opponents but only one will emerge as a winner and with these guys, only a small chance of a draw, and most likely the fight will end in the official's decisions.

The truth is that I would like Thurman to win this fight, not so that he loses his title, but so that he can learn to be a little more receptive, because Crawford was waiting for the fight against him, if in the event that Thurman wins and Crawford wins his fight, I think the roles here will be reversed and now it will be Spence who wants to rebuild his reputation and climb again against Crawford, there in that situation I would like to see how everything will develop, there are many clear things here, if Spence wins, he consolidates himself as a great leader and leaves Crawford on the way, on the other hand Thurman would lose credibility, so if we put them in concetxto these things, every scenario turns out to be very strong for one than for the others.

Terence Crawford: “Jermell Charlo, He’s Not On My Level Nor Errol Spence Level”



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Though he’s at the tail end of his career, Terence Crawford has set several lofty goals. Amongst them, of course, is an undisputed showdown against current unified champion, Errol Spence Jr.

Should the WBO trinket holder truncate Spence’s title reign, his next objective would be to move on from the 147-pound division and campaign as a full-fledged junior middleweight. His primary goal, ultimately, would be to strip Jermell Charlo of his WBA, WBC, IBF, and WBO titles.

Charlo, unsurprisingly, has berated Crawford for his ambitions. While the two have continued to go back and forth in the public eye, a lightbulb has flickered on in the mind of Crawford.

Source: https://www.boxingscene.com/terence-crawford-jermell-charlo-hes-not-on-my-level-errol-spence-level--170799

This can make things come off as a direct taunt, but I actually like the way he said it, let's see later if it has repercussions on others.
6454  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: New Solution to Address the Problem of Gambling in Australia. on: November 30, 2022, 05:51:12 PM
I really believe that a government should not get involved in this type of business, the solution that occurs to me is very daring, and quite fresh, but I do not know what the laws are like in Australia, but if that happened in a country like the one in alive, the people and owners of the casino or the platform must seek an audience with the government representative to speak, to negotiate, here a casino is known to be a very good business model, a good agreement can be reached with the government and regulatory entity to let them continue doing what they normally do and with the solution they sought so that everything continues ok, that is what would occur to me.
6455  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Terence Crawford vs David Avanesyan December 10 on: November 30, 2022, 04:08:58 PM
^^ That's part of it I guess, no one wants to accept the blame for a fight to not happening as big as this one. But at least we have heard the side of Crawford, maybe it's just half truth or wait, I'm still interested to hear though as who is that hedge fund manager willing to offer them guaranteed money of $50 million, maybe it's just a bluff on his end, hehehehe.

But yeah, December 10, we shall see if Avanesyan is really good as advertised by Crawford as an opponent. Or will it be just an easy fight for him and then his critics will go after him for taking an easy route.

You got some point but I don't think that Crawford was indeed bluffing when he told Al that there's someone out there who is willing to fund the fight, he won't be doing that just for the sake of pressuring Al and the latter is quite smart too and won't believe a single word without a proof. Crawford might have said all those words to save himself from the blaming game.

It's an open secret in the boxing industry that Al Haymon is very powerful and mysterious entity in boxing. And in his revelation, someone whisper to him, and this guy is under PBC that he needs to be careful on dealing with Al since he has no manager or someone that knows the ins and outs of boxing. And that he might be taking advantage of Al. And basically that's what happen, with no guarantee money. And that's why Crawford pitch that he knows rich personality willing to give both him and Spence $50 million, just a matter of how much they are going to split it up. But Al says no, and obviously Crawford didn't agree as well and that is why he is going to fight Avanesyan this December and then Spence moving forward with in house money fight with One Time Thurman.


What I didn't understand is Al Haymon should have told Crawford much earlier like weeks or months earlier that they have no intentions on materializing the fight. What they did was too unreasonable as they let Crawford go back and forth and wasted a couple of months for nothing. And I'm also curious on one other thing, Al said that he talked someone from Crawford's camp but Crawford was surprised because he didn't know about it that there's someone who came to Al and introduced himself in behalf of Crawford to have a discussion.

Good thing that Crawford already prepared a fight in-case the unification fight won't be happening, no one expected it for sure and people are asking why Avanesyan. For me, it's okay to fight whoever he wanted because he haven't got a fight for more than a year already, but the next fight should be at least more interesting.

It's that Crawford's plans went in another direction, he either wanted a fight like that, he wanted the fight against Spence, I think this was where Crawford burned almost all his energy to make that fight happen, that in fact I'm one of those who They think that he has been training very hard just for that fight, but it hasn't materialized yet, and I think it will be very difficult if Crawford can pull it off if he loses to David, so these are the things to think about first, yes. things did not happen, go for this one that is the clearest change, despite the fact that it is longer but it is possible that Craqwfoer wins and that over there in the Spence fight he loses it, everything is in the possibilities and statistics as possible.

Anyway, Spence vs Thurman fight is not yet final. They haven't speak of anything after the order of WBC but I know this will push through because Spence won't just let Keith have his way without even fighting for it. Lastly, the fight has been rumored to happen on December 17 of this year.

Yes, I know that this fight is ain't final yet and I expect that this will happen somewhere in the 1st quarter next year. But next month? That's totally not possible. The fight have just been ordered recently and both camps are not yet done with the terms if they already began discussing it that is why I don't think that it will happen next month. That is too rush and this is not an ordinary fight, this is a title fight.

Yes, not going to happen this December, most likely it will be early quarter next year. Although both of them have been notified of the potential fight so for sure they might be doing some light trainings just to get the blood going specially for Thurman.

For this fight Crawford is still way the odds favorite, and should be focus and not take away and be distracted by the fight between him and Spence not happening because both sides failed to come up on an agreement.

Definitely not this year, apart from the boxer's preparations and trainings. Promoters do need some time too to plan the fight carefully on where they will hold the fight and the correct date where there's no conflicts like important holidays or other fights that will divide the crowd. For a title fight, it's best if they can finalize the fight and give the final details 2 months prior the fight so that the audience can prepare for it as well so that the fight will be packed.

Agreed, no movement huge movements on their odds as well. It is expected already that Crawford will defeat Avanesyan easily and will just look this as a mere tune-up to prepare him from the future fights that may happen next year.

Crawford is the titleholder and with all those past fights it shows that he still has the upper hand here, bookies are just following that trend and place odds according to how the system works, we might see adjustment or changes plus additional available odd when the schedule is near or in the live events.

Nothing to say but expecting for Crawford to win and negotiate again against Spence if the other champ will win against Thurman on their schedule mandatory fight.

Without a doubt, Crawford is the undisputed leader in this fight, for me he is a fighter who is always a favorite in any boxing scenario, however for me there is something here that he must and wants to show, he wants to show that he is at the level and that he can do anything to fight against him, the fight against Spence could not be finalized, but if Spence loses his fight, it is obvious that he will accept his proposal, but if he is more intelligent, he does not challenge him anymore and expects Spence to challenge him, because there the roles change, the one who should show interest now would be Spence but not Crawford, in the event that both win, I think that Crawford's duty will continue to feel that way, calls Spence's attention.
6456  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: November 30, 2022, 03:20:36 PM
Otherwise this trio is quite likely to disband in the near future. Maybe we would see all of them here one more season but I don't expect the trio to stay the same after that. Apart from Messi and Neymar, even Mbappe might think of leaving depending on a possible strong offer by another solid team which are successful in the Champions League also.

LOL, Does winning the UCL title or not have anything to do with their contract at PSG? Believe me, even if they don't win the UCL title, they will still play together at PSG. Then you talk about the potential for Mbappe to leave PSG, is that possible? I think that at the moment there are no other clubs that can sign Mbappe (perhaps financially) other than Real Madrid and also Manchester City, and as we know that Mbappe had already rejected Real Madrid at that time and preferred to stay at PSG because of additional offers. Manchester City, they already have a bomber from Norway "Erling Haaland".
But there could be other repercussions as they continue to fail for the Champions League.
For Mbappe and Messi there may be a little consideration, but it seems not for Neymar because we know that Neymar's condition with PSG is actually not very good from last season and there could be several possibilities regarding his future later, especially if you look at last season there were several clubs who wanted to bring Neymar even though he was hindered by a salary.
What happens is that Neymar is a very controversial player despite the fact that he has an exquisite technique and apart from everything he has matured a lot, he is no longer that same boy who did not care about everything and who did everything he wanted, I think Messi has I have been his mentor in that sense, so I think that for next year the Sheikh will not take risks, for sure he will go all out in the UCL to beat Bayern, but Bayern is a team that is not afraid of anyone. , and this can complicate things for the trident of death, that when they connect completely they will be unstoppable, here I think that the one who does not fit much is Mbappé, he is something or very egocentric and he thinks he owns PSG, obviously I he thinks not, he will leave, it is the consent of the sheikh.


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At the moment we can say anything about PSG, doubt it, convince it or whatever. But since the Champions League is only starting in February next year, then everything will be different and that is very possible. Messi and Mbappe have really done well so far in the World Cup, but Neymar is injured. It is not impossible that several of Bayern Munich's main pillars will also be injured, this is obviously still very much worried about by the two teams who will compete in February.

If it is related to the Champions League regarding PSG, indeed any results can still occur, but if it is related to PSG's position in League 1 then of course no one will be able to doubt PSG. Also, if we consider the results of their national team in this World Cup, it is clear that France has better results than Germany.
Meanwhile, most of the German national team players themselves come from Bayern Munich and so, if we consider this result, we can also say that PSG has a good chance to win later.

But unfortunately, we are fixated on PSG's results in the group stage which only finished runners up under Benfica. These results at least make us doubt PSG a little for the match against Bayern Munich later, it's different if, for example, PSG gets a perfect result in the group stage then of course I'm sure PSG will also get better support.
This is a very interesting match because both are teams that dominate their respective leagues, moreover PSG has many star players that PSG should indeed be able to beat Bayern Munich.

I understand his position, there is no doubt that what PSG helps him the most are his stars, is that playing against Messi, Neymar and Mbappé is quite a challenge, I know that now the Almena team is in suspense that he could be left out of the World Cup, but there is something that this team has shown, in the World Cup the Germans grow when they are in danger, and Bayern for nothing in the world will want what happened to them last season in the UCL to happen, I think they have that very clear, they will come out with everything, and they will fight until they can't, I know it will be a very spicy match, with certain airs of pique between the two, also the Germans play very well under pressure.

I really don't know at this moment which team will win, France without a doubt the level that they have shown in the World Cup is impeccable, Germany is debatable, but I think that this is something that can be easily fixed to see who can go further in the world cup however, I know that Bayern is Bayern and emotionally, and with respect to his tactics he is very good.
6457  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: November 30, 2022, 12:11:52 PM
Rabiot right now is having is best season ever with Juventus but sadly (?) he will expire in June.

The rumor is that he wants 10m € net after taxes to stay in Italy and at that price Juventus will probably let him go.

The conseguent rumor is about the new player for Juventus and it seems they will try for Serjey Milinkovic Savic from Lazio
I find Rabiot to be a very good midfielder but a change must happen in Juventus if things aren't going well, look at what Napoli are doing right now, they sold a lot of their players that were in the starting squad in most of their matches, and they replaced them with new players with a high potential and they are now leading in Seria a and they qualified first in the champions league group, I think Juventus need some changes to see different results.

Yes, in fact I see NAPOLI as a lottery where this time they bet and won, but this is something very risky, Juve will always be Juve and they have a very good reputation to do something like that, as I see it, it is It is better to give him that money more than the player asks than to sell him and bring someone else to continue with an adaptation process and all the required protocol, while if he continues in the team he will be with a very good midfielder, who knows in which direction to go and He knows what to do and how to act, he knows his teammates and little by little Juve will be gaining their level, but if they leave that player, not only the midfield will fail, but it will also cause the entire structure to fail.

As you must have heard, Juventus are about to deal with a huge problem now. The president Agnelli and the whole board have resigned. Juventus are even under the danger of relegating to the Serie B as well. If this really happens and we start watching them there then we might be very likely to see many players leaving the team as well. I wouldn't expect their best players to decide to stay. In this case one name is already coming to my mind for a probable transfer: Dusan Vlahovic.

Vlahovic is one of the most talented strikers right now. There is no way seeing no team being interested to sign him in this situation. Maybe Manchester United might try their luck but their job would be still difficult against more successful teams in a probable race for him.

It would be a real problem if this happens, that they could go down to Serie B, I really don't see Juve there, however I don't know how the managers are able to leave the team when they need it the most, obviously a team that is going to be relegated The players will seek to have another team, it's obvious, I think the most loyal to the team would stay, it's incredible how a team in trouble is capable of relegating so much, when it comes to Man United I don't know if they want that striker, for me They will look for another player, let's remember that they have to replace a CR7 that they never put in, and even more so he was a star and that gave that team some elegance, as soon as they published that CR7 interview and Man United's shares fell a lot .

Elkann breaks silence after Agnelli and Juventus board of directors resign



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Chairman Andrea Agnelli and the rest of the board of directors unexpectedly resigned on Monday, leaving the club in disarray during the mid-season break. Juventus’ worrying financial situation precluded the move and the club are at serious risk of punishment due to hidden player salary payments during the early stages of the COVID pandemic. 

Below is Elkann’s statement in full:

“The resignation of the Juventus Board of Directors represents an act of responsibility, putting the interests of the Company first.

“The new Board that will be created in January will be made up of highly professional technical and legal figures, led by President Gianluca Ferrero, together with the other directors, they will have the task of addressing and resolving the legal and corporate issues that are on the table today. I am confident that the company will be able to prove that it has always acted correctly.

Source: https://football-italia.net/elkann-breaks-silence-after-agnelli-and-juventus-board-of-directors-resign/

And well, as they say here, the board of directors resigned, so what does this mean? Juve is weaker than ever? new directors who take the club forward, all is not lost for a club as privileged as this one, and with so much history.
6458  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can you still win with free spins? on: November 30, 2022, 04:00:23 AM
Yeah possible if you can hit decent multiplier. Gamdom usually gives free spins each week, it is hard to hit anything over 100x let alone winning that much profit. I dunno same RTP is applied on regular gambling and free spins, hard to win even if bonus rounds come back to back, from my experience.

I think that's because they're putting limits to the amounts you can win from free spins. Free spins trigger separate algorithms that will not go beyond a certain multiplier.
I've seen many threads by people who were farming all the freebies and never were able to win anything. IMO you can't win farming free spins. If you do, please bring some screenshots and prove me wrong.
Of course they set a limit for the free spins so that no user can win a large amount from it because they are constantly giving free spins to their regular users if a large amount is won from the free spins then they are able to carry it over and over again from their platform and at some point they may go bankrupt.  So they always make a calculation and give some part of their profit to free spins and various channels, this is their marketing strategy.
The purpose of giving free spins is to make players happy and try more experience playing in the casino. so when the limited number of free spins runs out it will make the player deposits the casino to continue the game.
whether it's an opportunity to win or not, free spins certainly provide players with their pleasure. The longer you play at the casino, of course, the more players will get a more interesting playing experience.

Yes, I agree with what you say, when they give free spins it is like a way that casinos have to make their customers fall in love with the game, of that free money if the player does not decide to deposit he can continue playing, but the caveat will be that you will lose it soon because honestly when it is like this you need to have some money to be able to perform, sometimes an incredible winning streak can come, but sometimes things go wrong and good luck can end for certain intervals of time, for that is that whenever a casino looks for and gives free spins it is to face them to its players, I am one of those, normally with slots I play them just for fun and not to win, I do not seek to win, but if I have victories, So they will be well received.
6459  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [BOXING] Manny Pacquiao vs. DK Yoo on: November 30, 2022, 03:21:17 AM
It's good to see Pacquiao back in the ring even though it's a promotion fight. It's obvious who will win in this match. I've seen a few videos of DK Yoo on youtube and had no idea he is a martial artist. As long as the fight's proceeds go somewhere else and it will benefit those who are in need it will be worth promoting. I am really not a fan of exhibition match since most boxer who does this do it for the money, take Mayweather and Logan Paul for instance. If you retire from boxing keep it as it is, stop for good and stop going back just to make some money. Not to mention most of it are scripted.

There could be hard fans like you who doesn't want exhibition matches, but what can you do? this boxers will need to earn money again, and in this case, easy money as this is the only way they know how to make ends meet.

So Mayweather and Paul Brothers started this whole even, but as you know, Floyd is very smart, taking fight after fight and in just matter of minutes earning millions without having to sweat it out, like Jake Paul recently against Anderson Silva.

I don't really see any reason why the fans would be against such fights. It's not a continuation of a career, it's just another activity. With their fame, they could go on a cooking show and make a lot of money too, but the best ex-pros can do is in the ring, so it's not surprising that they end up there again.
It is necessary to separate a professional career and everything else. Boxers, even if they ended their career at the age of 40, cannot go to a monastery for the sake of remembering themselves as just a pro and not doing anything else.

Best explanation so far for those people who are against exhibition fights that the legendaries themselves are making. We cannot really stop them if they wanted to make that happen because they loved the sport and that's what they've been doing since their teenage years, also, they can still make millions from it. So, let's say that you're one of those legendaries, wouldn't you make the same decision too? I bet you'll say yes.

Well it is a fact, when we stop to think, those boxers have the right to have their money and that is the only way they learned throughout their lives how to make money, and since they are Legends, in this case I consider Pacquiao Legend, How many of us don't wish Tyson would come back even in exhibition fights? and there is someone to rescue here, he still has his chance, even though his health is a bit poor he can do it, if he recovers I would be fascinated to see him win, because he will not accept any defeat even playing, so these things that some of us would like to see again, because Pacquiao is doing them.

Not really, so we believe that Pacman will just be okay with losing? Which is more important, Pacman's legacy or DK Yoo's business? I guess both have important name to protect, so they will try to win to stay popular, so I'm hoping there's no script to follow.  Smiley
If Pacquaio is losing against a big name boxer like Mayweather, he wouldn't mind about it. But DK Yoo is really unknown since he's from MMA and he haven't coached a good MMA fighter that can qualify for UFC fight, so he's literally just a local MMA coach. I think the script is make Pacquiao will win this fight since he said he will back in professional career after he won this exhibition fight. Also there's no bookies added this fight which mean there's no hype.
Is Pacquiao really thinking about making a comeback to professional boxing? Because as incredible as he was as a boxer I think his best days are behind him and maybe it is a better idea for him to embrace his retirement, after all an exhibition fight does not have anywhere near the same intensity as a professional fight, and even if I still think he can beat the majority of the boxers in his division out there, it would be difficult for him to beat a champion.

It's a mixed report though, others say that he is going to be back in the ring and try again, but obviously, he is just playing it 'safe' in this exhibition matches. And I think majority here will agree that it's better for Manny to retire in the professional level, he has nothing to proved anymore. Let the younger generation took over the 147 lbs division, we have Spence and Crawford and others already.

So we will see him in the ring again, but it's just a exhibition match and me being a fan, I'm cool with that.

And maybe there will be more exhibitions for him in the future.

In particular, I would like the Legend Pacquiao to return to the ring as a professional, I know that many like to have Pacquiao in exhibition fights, the truth is less effort, less stress, it is something that is very comfortable and that everything they are in their comfort zone and that he himself can feel comfortable, but there is nothing like the emotion of doing a really great fight, that his preparation is much stronger, that the fights are of great emotion, that he hardly intervenes the technical aspect, because Pacquiao is a fighter who goes to blows as he is, leaves the technical aside (as it should be) and adds emotion to any fight, one of those fights that we like so much.
6460  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: November 30, 2022, 02:49:20 AM
Milan is currently experiencing an unpleasant change in performance. They lost a lot of points so Napoli are really comfortable at the top of the standings with an 8 point advantage. I hope Milan will improve soon, it must be done if they want to win the Scudetto again this season.

Napoli is 8 points ahead of Milan. So even if Milan can return to form, and even if they win consistently, they are not guaranteed the title. Because Napoli is far ahead. And Milan has a chance to top the table if Napoli loses 3 matches. But the Napoli players are very confident now. And so now Napoli is in the best position to win the title. Teams like Milan and Juventus are unlikely to win the title.
The Seria A getting interesting with teams gaining their best form this season. Napoli are top when it comes to ranking first, the best form team this season with no single defeats in their league game. Luciano Spalleti always behind the good performance from his players as he always motivate them and give them the basic tactics of winning a game. The Naples can back out now that they're closing enough to keep big gap points with the team ranking second position on the table. Milan will improve with time, probably after the world cup.
Well I can't deny that Napoli is an exceptional team and I think this comes from a very long work, both from their players and the empathy that exists with the coach, in that sense I think that now Napoli is an essential value of Serie A , All the Serie A teams are playing him with more respect, and what I like the most about Napoli is that it is not a team of stars, like other teams that have outstanding stars and that obviously make the difference, however here in At Napoli, the team is compact and has great ways to solve a game together, all the players do their job very well and let the team as a whole continue to rise in level.


I feel like they are already the champions and will probably stay that way. There are no other teams that could end up with a title run if they really win the whole games but Napoli already did that, they are undefeated and doing amazing and I do not think that they will start to lose games all of a sudden.

Sure they could have a few losses by the end, I do not expect them to stay undefeated forever, but that doesn't mean that it would make sense for them to lose their position just because they lost a few games. All in all it will be a big deal for them to stay here, and I feel like it will happen very well too because they are doing so great.
Napoli's chances for the title this season are indeed very large considering the difference in points they managed to have between other competitors. Nobody would think Milan, Juventus or any other team would easily overtake Napoli at the top of the table if they knew how Napoli performed in the first half of the season. But the league isn't over yet, so it's possible that things that are currently difficult will be easy in the second half of this season, including Napoli's failure to maintain the current top of the standings.
I can't agree more than that, it's simple, Napoli has been improving a lot for the last two seasons, and I think that all this began since Ospina had excelled in those games, covering in an impressive way, of course the players did everything they they could but honestly for now Napoli has been quite good since that time, that was an announcement that they were starting from there, now the team has been well developed, I think it still needs more, in series A we are used to seeing the usual teams in the first places, as it had been said, Juve, Milan, Inter, all those teams that always stand out, now Napoli is setting a new course for Italian football.

World Cup: Napoli concerned after injury to Kim Min-Jae



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The 26-year-old defender was brought in for around €18m in the summer to be the long-term replacement for Kalidou Koulibaly and he immediately hit the ground running in the Campania capital, proving his incredible defensive capabilities from the outset. 

Kim is one of Luciano Spalletti’s key players and he’ll play a leading role in Napoli’s Scudetto charge in the second half of the season.

Source: https://football-italia.net/world-cup-napoli-concerned-after-injury-to-kim-min-jae/
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