Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions

[Fredomago]

There are rumors roaming around the boxing industry that Lomachenco's boxing style would render Devin Haney's defensive style useless.  I could have put the link to the said rumor but somehow I can't find it anymore.  Either way, I am very interested in whether this rumor is true or not so I hope the negotiation between Devin Haney's camp and Vasily Lomachenco's will have a positive result.

I haven't seen the link as well but I will speculate that it has something to do with Loma's amazing footwork and angles, and if Haney wanted to win then he could come up as the aggressor because he is big and tall and has the reach advantage.

On the other hand, there are boxing analyst who says that Loma's performance against Ortiz is not as we have expect of him.

And that Haney is going to defeat him if he shows that version if the two fight next year.

Both camps will continue to review their opponents fighting strategy, though with what you mentioned, I agree that Loma's last performance is not the same old Loma that we use to know, but on my own opinion, I can say that Loma is a skillfull fighter who can adjust with the way his opponents try to bring the fight, he will observe and will come up with startegy.

We might see the best of him again when facing the title holder, a good matchup that we will expect to happen next year.

[btc_angela]

There are rumors roaming around the boxing industry that Lomachenco's boxing style would render Devin Haney's defensive style useless.  I could have put the link to the said rumor but somehow I can't find it anymore.  Either way, I am very interested in whether this rumor is true or not so I hope the negotiation between Devin Haney's camp and Vasily Lomachenco's will have a positive result.

I haven't seen the link as well but I will speculate that it has something to do with Loma's amazing footwork and angles, and if Haney wanted to win then he could come up as the aggressor because he is big and tall and has the reach advantage.

On the other hand, there are boxing analyst who says that Loma's performance against Ortiz is not as we have expect of him.

And that Haney is going to defeat him if he shows that version if the two fight next year.

Both camps will continue to review their opponents fighting strategy, though with what you mentioned, I agree that Loma's last performance is not the same old Loma that we use to know, but on my own opinion, I can say that Loma is a skillfull fighter who can adjust with the way his opponents try to bring the fight, he will observe and will come up with startegy.

We might see the best of him again when facing the title holder, a good matchup that we will expect to happen next year.

I also agree, there are many fans of Loma who was obviously shaken with his performance because maybe the bar has been set very high. Maybe Ortiz is huge for him or Loma is getting old already (as per his crtics).

But he all know how Loma is very skillful, maybe he just had a ring rust or his mind is still with his beloved Ukraine that's why his performance is kinda disappointed.

However, if he is going to fight Haney for all the belts, then that is a extra motivation for him because that's what he really wanted until he lost to Teofimo Lopez.

[serjent05]

Both camps will continue to review their opponents fighting strategy, though with what you mentioned, I agree that Loma's last performance is not the same old Loma that we use to know, but on my own opinion, I can say that Loma is a skillfull fighter who can adjust with the way his opponents try to bring the fight, he will observe and will come up with startegy.

We might see the best of him again when facing the title holder, a good matchup that we will expect to happen next year.

Lomachenco is a great adaptive boxer, he can flawlessly transition to the style he thinks will have an advantage over his opponent.  The thing that I worry is that, Haney is huge, he is way bigger than Lomachenco reason why in their face-off during the interview after the fight of Loma, Loma asks if Devin Haney is a lightweight.[1]  It is obvious that Haney is way bigger than Lomachenco not only that Haney is also younger.  So I am somehow hesitating about the effectiveness of Loma's strategy against Haney due to the size difference.




[1] https://youtu.be/ZjQ9vcQ81eM?t=18

[OgNasty]

Paddie the Baddie has accepted Jake Paul’s terms for a fight. This will be interesting. I don’t think there’s any way this fight actually happens but the videos are hilarious to watch.

https://twitter.com/happypunchpromo/status/1597749499098976261

If this fight does actually happen then it will be a pretty good test for the both of them. Jake is quite a bit larger though and boxing is his sport, so I think Paddie would be the underdog.

[danherbias07]

Moving on, what's our next big fight?

I don't really know what's the criteria of big fight do you want, if you're only looking for popular boxers then it's a lot but the odds is really small and doesn't worth to bet since it's less than 1.15x like Tyson Fury, Teofimo Lopez, Terence Crawford and Naoya Inoue.

But if you're looking for better odds you can check a fight between Chocolatito vs Estrada, Charlo vs Tszyu and Warrington vs Luiz Lopez. There's so many fights from popular boxers will happen in this month.

Let's not forget the John Riel Casimero vs Ryo Akaho fight this Saturday @ 4AM ET at Incheon, South Korea

5 days left but their odds is not yet listed on my betting platform, maybe the bookies will list this bout in like 48 hours before their fight begins. This is interesting to see because it is somehow personal for Casimero because he need to avenge his fellow countrymen who fell in the hands of Akaho and this fight will determine Casimero's future in the industry. Failure to win will cause him his career.

Thank you for the suggestion guys.
I will be eyeing the Naoya Inoue vs Paul Butler fight this December 13. It should be a good one. The World Bantamweight belt will be on the line.
Plus, a chance to see if Inoue will continue his untainted record and add 1 more to his wins.

-Johnriel Casimero vs Ryo Akaho
This is not much profitable as Casimero is a hard favorite, it would be better in a parlay.
Odds in Stake.com is already open.

[YuginKadoya]

Both camps will continue to review their opponents fighting strategy, though with what you mentioned, I agree that Loma's last performance is not the same old Loma that we use to know, but on my own opinion, I can say that Loma is a skillfull fighter who can adjust with the way his opponents try to bring the fight, he will observe and will come up with startegy.

We might see the best of him again when facing the title holder, a good matchup that we will expect to happen next year.

Vasyl Lomachenko's last fight was with Jamaine Ortiz and I think Ortiz did a great job with their fight but still, Lomachenko has become dominant in their fight when Ortiz sends a punch to Lomachenko's guard he surely counters it with his own combination, Vasyl Lomachenko has given Ortiz the pressure on that fight, now regarding what is next to Vasyl Lomachenko I really think like you have said he can surely observe his opponent movement and can adjust his style on who is his opponent,

I also agree, there are many fans of Loma who was obviously shaken with his performance because maybe the bar has been set very high. Maybe Ortiz is huge for him or Loma is getting old already (as per his crtics).

But he all know how Loma is very skillful, maybe he just had a ring rust or his mind is still with his beloved Ukraine that's why his performance is kinda disappointed.

However, if he is going to fight Haney for all the belts, then that is a extra motivation for him because that's what he really wanted until he lost to Teofimo Lopez.

Well given another opportunity that these two would fight chance that Jamaine Ortiz will be prepared and knows what his going to do with Lomachenko I can say he surely showed a great performance against Lomachenko and given time and preparation I think he can win their fight at some point, but knowing Lomachenko skill he can also be prepared for Ortiz, but there will be a chance that Ortiz can have his way if they fight again,

[OgNasty]

Paddie the Baddie has accepted Jake Paul’s terms for a fight. This will be interesting. I don’t think there’s any way this fight actually happens but the videos are hilarious to watch.

https://twitter.com/happypunchpromo/status/1597749499098976261

If this fight does actually happen then it will be a pretty good test for the both of them. Jake is quite a bit larger though and boxing is his sport, so I think Paddie would be the underdog.

Jake Paul has seemingly doubled down on this bet and has offered to send Paddie a private jet to fly him to Puerto Rico for their spar.  A bit unfortunate that they are both playing this, "come to me" game.  That's what makes me think this will never happen, but Paddie certainly could use the million dollars so I will never say never.  It might even be fun to see Paddie put on a ton of weight for a fight instead of the other way around.  Not sure this would be great for his future fighting in the UFC, but a million dollars is a lot of UFC fights...

[LUCKMCFLY]

^^ Boxers will always find "personal" reasons to beat the other party, that's why they are motivated. The Taylor vs Catterall became personal to Taylor because he almost lost the fight, when everyone thought that he was invincible at 140 lbs. Of course he has the belt and the unified champion, but everything went wrong on that fight. And there are boxing pundits who see Catterall winning the fight.

And that makes Josh really wanted to get a rematch and shut Jack Catterall mouth for good. And shows everyone that he is still on top of this division although he has given up his 3 belts because it's hard to defend all against mandatory by different bodies.

Well, that's what you say, and as long as there are those rivalries that are very good for us because that translates into the fact that we are going to have some very good matches and that we must take advantage of not losing them, it is good for us, because from the beginning of the year to except for me, I am a person who imagines what fights can happen in the year, and obviously one imagines sometimes these that are quite good, but everything depends on the infrastructure that the managers have, and sponsors to offer us the best shows, then everything is linked there to the best, that is why the boxing industry also survives, because the money that is handled is very high.

There are rumors roaming around the boxing industry that Lomachenco's boxing style would render Devin Haney's defensive style useless.  I could have put the link to the said rumor but somehow I can't find it anymore.  Either way, I am very interested in whether this rumor is true or not so I hope the negotiation between Devin Haney's camp and Vasily Lomachenco's will have a positive result.

I haven't seen the link as well but I will speculate that it has something to do with Loma's amazing footwork and angles, and if Haney wanted to win then he could come up as the aggressor because he is big and tall and has the reach advantage.

On the other hand, there are boxing analyst who says that Loma's performance against Ortiz is not as we have expect of him.

And that Haney is going to defeat him if he shows that version if the two fight next year.

Both camps will continue to review their opponents fighting strategy, though with what you mentioned, I agree that Loma's last performance is not the same old Loma that we use to know, but on my own opinion, I can say that Loma is a skillfull fighter who can adjust with the way his opponents try to bring the fight, he will observe and will come up with startegy.

We might see the best of him again when facing the title holder, a good matchup that we will expect to happen next year.

Well to be honest I think neither of the two boxers should be underestimated, I think Loma's style is different from Hanney's, if it were Loma he would be much more careful, Hanney is undoubtedly one of the most experienced boxers they have, and he would I consider him to be a very high-level boxer, on the other hand, Loma is not a boxer who wants to throw everything away, he is a boxer who will always want to do something good in order to get ahead, although he has had some mistakes in his strategies and that sometimes he can't figure out what it is, I think he has a good chance that he can do it right.

[TopTort777]

In two days Tyson Fury is going to have a third fight against Derek Chisora and YuginKadoya seems to be the only one who remember it, as there were only few posts about this fight during last 30 days. It is time to wake up boxing fans Why so silent ? No one is going to watch this fight ? Aged Chisora is no longer dangerous? Because Chisora havent won anyone convincingly since 2019? Undefeated WBC champion is about to have a belt defence, or even might have his last fight before retirement, and people show low interest in that fight. Strange...

[Baofeng]

It's just funny though that Prograis said that his check has bounce



https://twitter.com/RPrograis/status/1597966053719838721

So it's about a million paycheck for him in his knockout against Zepeda. In any case, I think this will be solved since he goes to the media already.

It's was MarvNation, a small promotional company based in Southern California who won the bid in this fight beating some notable names in boxing industry with more than $2 million as a bid price.

[lionheart78]

Dimitry Bivol being tired of Canelo Alvarez's excuses just stated that he is willing to fight him at 168lbs.  So Canelo won't have any excuses that it is not his natural weight division.  This is very interesting in the development of their rematch, I wonder if the match would include the defense of Canelo's current title.  Would be exciting if it would be  .

[Japinat]

Dimitry Bivol being tired of Canelo Alvarez's excuses just stated that he is willing to fight him at 168lbs.  So Canelo won't have any excuses that it is not his natural weight division.  This is very interesting in the development of their rematch, I wonder if the match would include the defense of Canelo's current title.  Would be exciting if it would be  .

I don't think Eddie Hearn and Canelo will agree to contest the fight at 168 lbs. or that dumb enough to even consider that idea Dmitry Bivol would loved to visit Canelo in his division where he doesn't have any titles to risk whereas Canelo got everything to lose, and if ever Canelo's camp will agree but with no titles on the line, I wouldn't be surprised that Bivol won't give him any attention because what's there to fight or where's the challenge if there will be no titles on the line. I think it will be unfair for Bivol because he also risked his belt during their first encounter.

[inthelongrun]

Dimitry Bivol being tired of Canelo Alvarez's excuses just stated that he is willing to fight him at 168lbs.  So Canelo won't have any excuses that it is not his natural weight division.  This is very interesting in the development of their rematch, I wonder if the match would include the defense of Canelo's current title.  Would be exciting if it would be  .

Let's see if Canelo really has the balls. It should be a fight for the undisputed belts at 168. Canelo's top options now are Bivol, the Benavidez vs Plant winner, Andrade, and Charlo. If Canelo won't fight Bivol next, he will have an upcoming WBC mandatory probably against Benavidez.

It's just funny though that Prograis said that his check has bounce



https://twitter.com/RPrograis/status/1597966053719838721

So it's about a million paycheck for him in his knockout against Zepeda. In any case, I think this will be solved since he goes to the media already.

It's was MarvNation, a small promotional company based in Southern California who won the bid in this fight beating some notable names in boxing industry with more than $2 million as a bid price.

I was surprised Top Rank was not the one promoting that fight neither was Probellum (Prograis promoter). Did it really go into a purse bid and MarvNation won it? Because the original call was Zepeda vs Ramirez but the latter showed no interest in a rematch. Hopefully, Prograis and Zepeda get paid asap.

In two days Tyson Fury is going to have a third fight against Derek Chisora and YuginKadoya seems to be the only one who remember it, as there were only few posts about this fight during last 30 days. It is time to wake up boxing fans Why so silent ? No one is going to watch this fight ? Aged Chisora is no longer dangerous? Because Chisora havent won anyone convincingly since 2019? Undefeated WBC champion is about to have a belt defence, or even might have his last fight before retirement, and people show low interest in that fight. Strange...

Because Fury cherry-picked someone that has zero chance of becoming a world champion. What's more strange is he already beat the better versions of Chisora twice and they aren't even close. And with Chisora picking this fight in less than 2 months, Fury can probably carry the fight and can decide which round he will stop Chisora.

DAZN has the better event this weekend. The trilogy between Roman Gonzales and Juan Francisco Estrada.

[mirakal]

Dimitry Bivol being tired of Canelo Alvarez's excuses just stated that he is willing to fight him at 168lbs.  So Canelo won't have any excuses that it is not his natural weight division.  This is very interesting in the development of their rematch, I wonder if the match would include the defense of Canelo's current title.  Would be exciting if it would be  .

I don't think Eddie Hearn and Canelo will agree to contest the fight at 168 lbs. or that dumb enough to even consider that idea Dmitry Bivol would loved to visit Canelo in his division where he doesn't have any titles to risk whereas Canelo got everything to lose, and if ever Canelo's camp will agree but with no titles on the line, I wouldn't be surprised that Bivol won't give him any attention because what's there to fight or where's the challenge if there will be no titles on the line. I think it will be unfair for Bivol because he also risked his belt during their first encounter.

This scenario might happen as long as it is not written on their contract that a rematch should only be contested at 175 lbs. where the first fight happened. But this case got me thinking, will Canelo accept the challenge and host the fight on his comfortable division? Regarding that his title will be at risk while Bivol don't have any troubles if he will get defeated because he has nothing to lose at 168 lbs. Not sure if it will be worth for Canelo because I bet he just want to take advantage of that rematch clause to make money.

[BitcoinAccepted]

Soon Rico Verhoeven will fight again. Normally he always fights in the last quarter of the year, but this time it will be in the first quarter of 2023. I don't know exactly who that will be against. I have read that Overeem would have used prohibited substances in his match against Verhoeven, would a certain suspension be linked to that? He also looked very fit for someone of 40+. Too bad Badr Hari has stopped altogether. I think there is only one man on earth who can beat Verhoeven, and that is Ben Saddik.

[Dave1]

Dimitry Bivol being tired of Canelo Alvarez's excuses just stated that he is willing to fight him at 168lbs.  So Canelo won't have any excuses that it is not his natural weight division.  This is very interesting in the development of their rematch, I wonder if the match would include the defense of Canelo's current title.  Would be exciting if it would be  .

I don't think Eddie Hearn and Canelo will agree to contest the fight at 168 lbs. or that dumb enough to even consider that idea Dmitry Bivol would loved to visit Canelo in his division where he doesn't have any titles to risk whereas Canelo got everything to lose, and if ever Canelo's camp will agree but with no titles on the line, I wouldn't be surprised that Bivol won't give him any attention because what's there to fight or where's the challenge if there will be no titles on the line. I think it will be unfair for Bivol because he also risked his belt during their first encounter.

Why not? This will be a true test for Canelo, how good he really is, by accepting Bivol to go down in weight.

And isn't it that will be in his advantage? Bivol is not a 168 lbs, he never fought in this division in his career. So all advantage points to Canelo in this fight, so why not give it to Bivol?

So yeah, we will hear another excuses for Canelo and Hearn, or maybe they will include like rehydration clause that Bivol can't go and rehydrate to this x weight during the fight. Meaning he can still weight drain Bivol even if he made 168 lbs in their fight night.

[serjent05]

Why not? This will be a true test for Canelo, how good he really is, by accepting Bivol to go down in weight.

And isn't it that will be in his advantage? Bivol is not a 168 lbs, he never fought in this division in his career. So all advantage points to Canelo in this fight, so why not give it to Bivol?

It would be a good and a bad thing.  Good because Canelo will be fighting in his comfortable weight division, and bad because there is a possibility that his title will be put on the line.  I think a catchweight would be the best option and both titles should be on the line which makes it way more interesting.

So yeah, we will hear another excuses for Canelo and Hearn, or maybe they will include like rehydration clause that Bivol can't go and rehydrate to this x weight during the fight. Meaning he can still weight drain Bivol even if he made 168 lbs in their fight night.

   That would be insane if they don't allow Bivol to rehydrate, why not tell Bivol to knock himself out during the fight? 

[Baofeng]

It's just funny though that Prograis said that his check has bounce



https://twitter.com/RPrograis/status/1597966053719838721

So it's about a million paycheck for him in his knockout against Zepeda. In any case, I think this will be solved since he goes to the media already.

It's was MarvNation, a small promotional company based in Southern California who won the bid in this fight beating some notable names in boxing industry with more than $2 million as a bid price.

I was surprised Top Rank was not the one promoting that fight neither was Probellum (Prograis promoter). Did it really go into a purse bid and MarvNation won it? Because the original call was Zepeda vs Ramirez but the latter showed no interest in a rematch. Hopefully, Prograis and Zepeda get paid asap.

Yes, it was MarvNation who won the bid, Probellum (Prograis promoter) bid $1,060,000 and Zanfer (Zepeda's promoter) bid  $1,004,500.

MarvNation bid a huge $2 million, but as of the latest, Prograis said that he got his bread already

Here is the video, maybe the bank just didn't clear it up as early because of the huge money involved or perhaps if Prograis didn't go to his social media, the money might be delayed.

https://twitter.com/RPrograis/status/1598430284600451093

[TopTort777]

In two days Tyson Fury is going to have a third fight against Derek Chisora and YuginKadoya seems to be the only one who remember it, as there were only few posts about this fight during last 30 days. It is time to wake up boxing fans Why so silent ? No one is going to watch this fight ? Aged Chisora is no longer dangerous? Because Chisora havent won anyone convincingly since 2019? Undefeated WBC champion is about to have a belt defence, or even might have his last fight before retirement, and people show low interest in that fight. Strange...

Because Fury cherry-picked someone that has zero chance of becoming a world champion. What's more strange is he already beat the better versions of Chisora twice and they aren't even close. And with Chisora picking this fight in less than 2 months, Fury can probably carry the fight and can decide which round he will stop Chisora.

DAZN has the better event this weekend. The trilogy between Roman Gonzales and Juan Francisco Estrada.

But still it is a WBC belt fight. It cant be not interesting. Who cares if it is a cherry-picked fight or not, both fighters will get this fight in their record and huge money rewards. Besides, this is a heavyweight fight; a fight where a single punch can be a game changer. Anyway, strange that no one is interested in that fight, and to see a daily discussion of a boxer against youtuber fights (Pacquiao vs. DK Yoo, or Logan vs anyone).

[Russlenat]

In two days Tyson Fury is going to have a third fight against Derek Chisora and YuginKadoya seems to be the only one who remember it, as there were only few posts about this fight during last 30 days. It is time to wake up boxing fans Why so silent ? No one is going to watch this fight ? Aged Chisora is no longer dangerous? Because Chisora havent won anyone convincingly since 2019? Undefeated WBC champion is about to have a belt defence, or even might have his last fight before retirement, and people show low interest in that fight. Strange...

Because Fury cherry-picked someone that has zero chance of becoming a world champion. What's more strange is he already beat the better versions of Chisora twice and they aren't even close. And with Chisora picking this fight in less than 2 months, Fury can probably carry the fight and can decide which round he will stop Chisora.

DAZN has the better event this weekend. The trilogy between Roman Gonzales and Juan Francisco Estrada.

But still it is a WBC belt fight. It cant be not interesting. Who cares if it is a cherry-picked fight or not, both fighters will get this fight in their record and huge money rewards. Besides, this is a heavyweight fight; a fight where a single punch can be a game changer. Anyway, strange that no one is interested in that fight, and to see a daily discussion of a boxer against youtuber fights (Pacquiao vs. DK Yoo, or Logan vs anyone).

I'm interested with this fight because when Fury fights, the fight is very exciting to watch. However, I just hope that he would choose a good opponent, someone who has a championship caliber, not an old boxer that are close to retirement age already. By the way, I love Roman Gonzales and Juan Francisco Estrada than this one.