Losing $350,000 because of a friend, what would you do?

[LUCKMCFLY]

He particularly chose Black 15 for $10K on roulette which he could have won $350,000 but a friend took the $10K and replace a safer bet. I know this is likely not to happen in real life. But let's say it did. What would you do?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fT4GcK6Dpkk
I was trying to look for Kevin Hart movies on Netflix so I found one. Turns out one scene is an unsatisfying win.

Actions are restricted once the spin is now in the action.

And if some sort of movements were done while spinning and chips got moved for whatever reason, the supposed first number that is chosen is the original number and that won't be changed.

The movie shared is a comedy that's why stories like that occur but it can't happen in real life.

Well I would interpret lop as profit, there are times we let opportunities go by because we don't know very well, of course letting go of winning so much is something that can affect a lot, especially emotionally, especially when it is such a monstrous amount of money, but that would help of teaching, I think that here in gmbling as in trading the best of all are the teachings, I think that the friend learned a very valuable lesson and that is what matters, of course if we see it from the winning point of view it is obvious that He stopped winning a lot, but at least he won something and I am in favor of leaving with a positive balance and not a negative one, that is what I like the most.

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[rahmad2nd]

2. This cannot happen because afaik nobody is allowed to touch your chips, even if that one is with you/your friend. An I wrong?

Let's not confuse movies with reality.

It happens in real gambling in my country especially in the place where I live. Although the game is not the same as mentioned by OP but it is a bit similar. It is a game where players against the dealer. Players place bets and other players can move other's money to others or even take the money of other's players but they responsible for it. Means that if the taken money or moved money is a bet, the one who take or move it should pay the winning. Perhaps it is not happening in big and professional land based casino, but it is happening in traditional gambling in my area.
Below is the gambling game I'm referring to where players can touch (take/move) other's money:

It is very clear, traditional gambling and casino gambling have a difference that looks very contrasting. whether it's from game rules, security guarantees, playing comfort, the many types of games, and the most important thing is the purity of the game which tends to be controlled by the dealer.

I mean, traditional gambling like you show in this picture. I don't guarantee 100%, but in most cases bookies from traditional gambling tend to play unfairly with the various tricks they do. at least, that's what happened in my country. after all, most of this kind of gambling is no longer popular because of the sophistication of technology. Gradually, traditional gambling will disappear with time.

however, there is one thing that modern casinos and traditional gambling have in common, namely, in the end, the dealer always wins. the difference is, traditional bookies are more inclined to cheating tricks, but if in a modern casino, players don't know the time so the money at stake will gradually run out too. So, that's roughly the difference.

[Sanitough]

Isn't that the point? What are you going to do? Prosecute them, leave them to get thrown out and stay on, or just what most would do and do nothing?

I don't have to do anything. Maybe tell the manager to look at the recording.
The dealer should have been not letting anyone touch the chips, so it's all on him.

I'm afraid that the casino won't bother at all and will just try and help to de-escalate the situation so that the other bettors won't be disturbed. Lucky for you if they will return your bet because most management will just talk to you privately that the situation can't be restored nor the bet, and will put the finger to your friend who did moved the chips. Trying to claim that $350k will be impossible, that's just pushing your luck for nothing.

[jakdanyel]

I had a similar incident, although not exactly in this way. It was 4 years ago. A close friend and I had a joint gambling account. When we were gambling, we made joint decisions and acted that way. But one day it didn't happen that way. When I was going to bet equally on two different games, my friend changed his mind according to his own opinion and played with all the money in one game. He did something like this without my knowledge. At the end of this incident, when we were going to have a lot of money, we didn't have any money. As a result, he is still my friend After this incident, he returned my main money and we ended our partnership. Since then, I have not involved anyone in gambling.

[Silberman]

I had a similar incident, although not exactly in this way. It was 4 years ago. A close friend and I had a joint gambling account. When we were gambling, we made joint decisions and acted that way. But one day it didn't happen that way. When I was going to bet equally on two different games, my friend changed his mind according to his own opinion and played with all the money in one game. He did something like this without my knowledge. At the end of this incident, when we were going to have a lot of money, we didn't have any money. As a result, he is still my friend After this incident, he returned my main money and we ended our partnership. Since then, I have not involved anyone in gambling.

It is a good thing that he is still your friend because this can be easily be an incident which could destroy a friendship if it is not managed correctly, personally even if I have great friends and family members in which I trust I have always thought that it is important to keep the topic of our finances apart, as this is a very sensitive topic and even something which you think it is not a big deal for you may destroy a friendship as the other person does not share your opinion.

[adzino]

He particularly chose Black 15 for $10K on roulette which he could have won $350,000 but a friend took the $10K and replace a safer bet. I know this is likely not to happen in real life. But let's say it did. What would you do?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fT4GcK6Dpkk
I was trying to look for Kevin Hart movies on Netflix so I found one. Turns out one scene is an unsatisfying win.

Well you didn't lose $350,000, you lost $10,000 only. If you are going to think this way, every time you place a $1 bet in slots and lose, you may as well say you lost $10,000 which isn't true. Maybe yes, you can say that you lost the chance of winning $10,000, that would make more sense but still weird.

Well, if that is something that happened to me because of my friend, I guess we both would regret and laugh it off. I am sure he is feeling much more shittier than me. But things like this never happen in real life. Once you place the chips, there is no taking back.

[ethereumhunter]

I had a similar incident, although not exactly in this way. It was 4 years ago. A close friend and I had a joint gambling account. When we were gambling, we made joint decisions and acted that way. But one day it didn't happen that way. When I was going to bet equally on two different games, my friend changed his mind according to his own opinion and played with all the money in one game. He did something like this without my knowledge. At the end of this incident, when we were going to have a lot of money, we didn't have any money. As a result, he is still my friend After this incident, he returned my main money and we ended our partnership. Since then, I have not involved anyone in gambling.

That is why it is better for us not to share our gambling accounts with other people, even our friends, because we do not know when they will use that gambling account. Moreover, if they don't have good self-control, they can use all the money in the gambling account and not ask or tell us about it. This can lead to fights between us and friendships can be damaged because of this little thing. But you are still lucky not to lose that friend of yours and are still my friend.

[BitcoinPanther]

I had a similar incident, although not exactly in this way. It was 4 years ago. A close friend and I had a joint gambling account. When we were gambling, we made joint decisions and acted that way. But one day it didn't happen that way. When I was going to bet equally on two different games, my friend changed his mind according to his own opinion and played with all the money in one game. He did something like this without my knowledge. At the end of this incident, when we were going to have a lot of money, we didn't have any money. As a result, he is still my friend After this incident, he returned my main money and we ended our partnership. Since then, I have not involved anyone in gambling.

That is why it is better for us not to share our gambling accounts with other people, even our friends, because we do not know when they will use that gambling account. Moreover, if they don't have good self-control, they can use all the money in the gambling account and not ask or tell us about it.

I don't know anyone sharing their gambling accounts with others and I also think that any account is a personal thing and should be kept private.  Because often times friends plays joke and it is no joke if our accounts get compromised.

This can lead to fights between us and friendships can be damaged because of this little thing. But you are still lucky not to lose that friend of yours and are still my friend.

Indeed even can end in worst than just a fight.  I read lots of news about friends committing crime because because of money.  So as far as friendship is concern, lets be responsible and keep our accounts by ourselves.  It will keep our friends away from sinning.

[carlfebz2]

Reality is far from a movie, and a movie is far from reality.
Ain't gonna happen in real life. You don't wanna touch your friends bet coz it's gonna be a total chaos when something like the movie happens. Plus, I guess we are not allowed to touch other person's bet on the table, most especially once the roullete have started rolling.
The most realistic scenario for that, is to give your friend an advice on what kind of risk he's been into, but touching his bets and replacing it, not gonna happen in reality. Unless you and your friend are drunk af.

You are right!

There's no way that the banker or the one whose incharge on a certain table would allow to do it so.Once the ball is rolling then those bets on the table are considered final.
Any alterations or changes would really be that not allowed.
If ever someone or your friend do change up your your bet and the it won but you didnt able to win up the amount because it was changed.
Then it would really be a huge chaos.
This isnt an amount which you can just slip away and move on, even if he's your friend you would really be beating him up
so badly for what he had done but eventually this isnt realistic.

[Jemzx00]

I had a similar incident, although not exactly in this way. It was 4 years ago. A close friend and I had a joint gambling account. When we were gambling, we made joint decisions and acted that way. But one day it didn't happen that way. When I was going to bet equally on two different games, my friend changed his mind according to his own opinion and played with all the money in one game. He did something like this without my knowledge. At the end of this incident, when we were going to have a lot of money, we didn't have any money. As a result, he is still my friend After this incident, he returned my main money and we ended our partnership. Since then, I have not involved anyone in gambling.

That is why it is better for us not to share our gambling accounts with other people, even our friends, because we do not know when they will use that gambling account. Moreover, if they don't have good self-control, they can use all the money in the gambling account and not ask or tell us about it. This can lead to fights between us and friendships can be damaged because of this little thing. But you are still lucky not to lose that friend of yours and are still my friend.

Actually, it's not always bad to have a joint gambling account as I have one myself with one of my friends which is just mainly for sportsbetting as we want to maximize our profit by having a larger bankroll. One thing that we established before making the decision of sharing an account is that we will make a decision where we can both agree on but if in any case one of us is not available to make a decision then we have a certain amount limit to bet on to avoid losing a huge chunk of our bankroll. Also, we never blame each other if one of us bet and lost as we both share our winnings as well as when we lose.

[agustina2]

Actually, it's not always bad to have a joint gambling account as I have one myself with one of my friends which is just mainly for sportsbetting as we want to maximize our profit by having a larger bankroll.

I agree with you. What matter there is, we are still control our financial status properly even we do gambling. That's why I don't consider a heavy gambler as a person that don't know what do as what if in the end, they are still disciplined even how addicted they are in gambling.

Back to topic, it's really hard to put some real thoughts there because that is something can't really happened in real life.

[lienfaye]

He particularly chose Black 15 for $10K on roulette which he could have won $350,000 but a friend took the $10K and replace a safer bet. I know this is likely not to happen in real life. But let's say it did. What would you do?

Well, mix emotions if this happened to me. I place the bet, that means i'm already prepared whatever the outcome is. Because it's my decision to go all in and try my luck. If my friend changed my bet out of concern, I appreciate it and his intention, but still, he has no right to interfere. So regardless of the result I'll be mad at him.

But anyway this is just a movie and can't happen in reality since you can't change/move bets when the ball is already rolling. The dealer should not allow this too.

[xSkylarx]

I had a similar incident, although not exactly in this way. It was 4 years ago. A close friend and I had a joint gambling account. When we were gambling, we made joint decisions and acted that way. But one day it didn't happen that way. When I was going to bet equally on two different games, my friend changed his mind according to his own opinion and played with all the money in one game. He did something like this without my knowledge. At the end of this incident, when we were going to have a lot of money, we didn't have any money. As a result, he is still my friend After this incident, he returned my main money and we ended our partnership. Since then, I have not involved anyone in gambling.

That is why it is better for us not to share our gambling accounts with other people, even our friends, because we do not know when they will use that gambling account. Moreover, if they don't have good self-control, they can use all the money in the gambling account and not ask or tell us about it. This can lead to fights between us and friendships can be damaged because of this little thing. But you are still lucky not to lose that friend of yours and are still my friend.

Actually, it's not always bad to have a joint gambling account as I have one myself with one of my friends which is just mainly for sportsbetting as we want to maximize our profit by having a larger bankroll. One thing that we established before making the decision of sharing an account is that we will make a decision where we can both agree on but if in any case one of us is not available to make a decision then we have a certain amount limit to bet on to avoid losing a huge chunk of our bankroll. Also, we never blame each other if one of us bet and lost as we both share our winnings as well as when we lose.

Oh, it's a nice idea to have a joint gambling account with a friend, as long as your friend is trustworthy. I have yet to try to have a joint account with my friend, that is a good idea to win bigger, but I am just scared since it involves money, though I do really know them well. Still, it involves money, so I am curious how they react. Also, when betting, you and your friend should decide which team to bet on, but the problem is that if you are betting on a different team, how do you decide?

[ethereumhunter]

I had a similar incident, although not exactly in this way. It was 4 years ago. A close friend and I had a joint gambling account. When we were gambling, we made joint decisions and acted that way. But one day it didn't happen that way. When I was going to bet equally on two different games, my friend changed his mind according to his own opinion and played with all the money in one game. He did something like this without my knowledge. At the end of this incident, when we were going to have a lot of money, we didn't have any money. As a result, he is still my friend After this incident, he returned my main money and we ended our partnership. Since then, I have not involved anyone in gambling.

That is why it is better for us not to share our gambling accounts with other people, even our friends, because we do not know when they will use that gambling account. Moreover, if they don't have good self-control, they can use all the money in the gambling account and not ask or tell us about it.

I don't know anyone sharing their gambling accounts with others and I also think that any account is a personal thing and should be kept private.  Because often times friends plays joke and it is no joke if our accounts get compromised.

Thus, we are free to use our funds and do not need to share with our friends because one day, we can feel jealous of the profit sharing. And if that has happened, there may be a fight between us.

This can lead to fights between us and friendships can be damaged because of this little thing. But you are still lucky not to lose that friend of yours and are still my friend.

Indeed even can end in worst than just a fight.  I read lots of news about friends committing crime because because of money.  So as far as friendship is concern, lets be responsible and keep our accounts by ourselves.  It will keep our friends away from sinning.

When it comes to money, the little things that happen between us can turn into betrayals and bring us great losses. We can lose money and also lose friends. We definitely don't want to feel that because losing a friend can make us sad.

I had a similar incident, although not exactly in this way. It was 4 years ago. A close friend and I had a joint gambling account. When we were gambling, we made joint decisions and acted that way. But one day it didn't happen that way. When I was going to bet equally on two different games, my friend changed his mind according to his own opinion and played with all the money in one game. He did something like this without my knowledge. At the end of this incident, when we were going to have a lot of money, we didn't have any money. As a result, he is still my friend After this incident, he returned my main money and we ended our partnership. Since then, I have not involved anyone in gambling.

That is why it is better for us not to share our gambling accounts with other people, even our friends, because we do not know when they will use that gambling account. Moreover, if they don't have good self-control, they can use all the money in the gambling account and not ask or tell us about it. This can lead to fights between us and friendships can be damaged because of this little thing. But you are still lucky not to lose that friend of yours and are still my friend.

Actually, it's not always bad to have a joint gambling account as I have one myself with one of my friends which is just mainly for sportsbetting as we want to maximize our profit by having a larger bankroll. One thing that we established before making the decision of sharing an account is that we will make a decision where we can both agree on but if in any case one of us is not available to make a decision then we have a certain amount limit to bet on to avoid losing a huge chunk of our bankroll. Also, we never blame each other if one of us bet and lost as we both share our winnings as well as when we lose.

Maybe you don't think that's always a bad thing because as long as we can be honest using that shared account, no problem will happen. There may be a way to avoid getting into trouble later; if you want, you can make a pact between the two of you. But I still don't want to share accounts with my friends; instead, I will suggest they create their own accounts and gamble together. That's probably a good way for us because we learn to be responsible for managing our accounts.

[Jemzx00]

Actually, it's not always bad to have a joint gambling account as I have one myself with one of my friends which is just mainly for sportsbetting as we want to maximize our profit by having a larger bankroll. One thing that we established before making the decision of sharing an account is that we will make a decision where we can both agree on but if in any case one of us is not available to make a decision then we have a certain amount limit to bet on to avoid losing a huge chunk of our bankroll. Also, we never blame each other if one of us bet and lost as we both share our winnings as well as when we lose.

Maybe you don't think that's always a bad thing because as long as we can be honest using that shared account, no problem will happen. There may be a way to avoid getting into trouble later; if you want, you can make a pact between the two of you. But I still don't want to share accounts with my friends; instead, I will suggest they create their own accounts and gamble together. That's probably a good way for us because we learn to be responsible for managing our accounts.

You don't need to made a pact to each other as long as both of you have agreed on disclosing information regarding every bet you'll both made. Also, it's best to only do this to someone you personally know so that you won't have any issue trusting each other.
I don't personally suggest sharing an account to every gambling activities you made as not all bets should be shared on as some are better done separately. We only do this on sports betting and not on other kind of gambling games.

[ethereumhunter]

Actually, it's not always bad to have a joint gambling account as I have one myself with one of my friends which is just mainly for sportsbetting as we want to maximize our profit by having a larger bankroll. One thing that we established before making the decision of sharing an account is that we will make a decision where we can both agree on but if in any case one of us is not available to make a decision then we have a certain amount limit to bet on to avoid losing a huge chunk of our bankroll. Also, we never blame each other if one of us bet and lost as we both share our winnings as well as when we lose.

Maybe you don't think that's always a bad thing because as long as we can be honest using that shared account, no problem will happen. There may be a way to avoid getting into trouble later; if you want, you can make a pact between the two of you. But I still don't want to share accounts with my friends; instead, I will suggest they create their own accounts and gamble together. That's probably a good way for us because we learn to be responsible for managing our accounts.

You don't need to made a pact to each other as long as both of you have agreed on disclosing information regarding every bet you'll both made. Also, it's best to only do this to someone you personally know so that you won't have any issue trusting each other.
I don't personally suggest sharing an account to every gambling activities you made as not all bets should be shared on as some are better done separately. We only do this on sports betting and not on other kind of gambling games.

It would be better because if they can make it, they won't try to break it, especially if it's about profit sharing. It's better if we can choose someone we already know so well that we can trust each other and won't try to cheat.

But if it can provide a bigger chance of winning at sports betting because each of us has skills in choosing a team to compete with, we could share an account with someone we trust.

[Silberman]

I had a similar incident, although not exactly in this way. It was 4 years ago. A close friend and I had a joint gambling account. When we were gambling, we made joint decisions and acted that way. But one day it didn't happen that way. When I was going to bet equally on two different games, my friend changed his mind according to his own opinion and played with all the money in one game. He did something like this without my knowledge. At the end of this incident, when we were going to have a lot of money, we didn't have any money. As a result, he is still my friend After this incident, he returned my main money and we ended our partnership. Since then, I have not involved anyone in gambling.

That is why it is better for us not to share our gambling accounts with other people, even our friends, because we do not know when they will use that gambling account. Moreover, if they don't have good self-control, they can use all the money in the gambling account and not ask or tell us about it. This can lead to fights between us and friendships can be damaged because of this little thing. But you are still lucky not to lose that friend of yours and are still my friend.

And if there is a credit card linked to it things could be many times worse, after all people trust in their friends and they are not going to check every single thing they do, and if you have a joint account then it could be possible for your friend to abuse that trust you have in them and make some withdrawals without your permission, so it is better to keep our accounts separated, besides I think most casinos do not like arrangements like this one as it could bring financial loss to them.

[worle1bm]

What we are trying to here is match the fictional part of movie with the real one which is very unlikely to happen as others have already told you.If someone is allowed to change the bets and remove chips then what's the fun of placing bet at all? So casino don't allow it but what if happens? You would not speak to him for rest of your life and end friendship with him but can't kill him  The gambling is full of risk and even with the same bet you might have not be able to win that amount so take a chill pill and relax and creating imaginative scenes.

[ethereumhunter]

I had a similar incident, although not exactly in this way. It was 4 years ago. A close friend and I had a joint gambling account. When we were gambling, we made joint decisions and acted that way. But one day it didn't happen that way. When I was going to bet equally on two different games, my friend changed his mind according to his own opinion and played with all the money in one game. He did something like this without my knowledge. At the end of this incident, when we were going to have a lot of money, we didn't have any money. As a result, he is still my friend After this incident, he returned my main money and we ended our partnership. Since then, I have not involved anyone in gambling.

That is why it is better for us not to share our gambling accounts with other people, even our friends, because we do not know when they will use that gambling account. Moreover, if they don't have good self-control, they can use all the money in the gambling account and not ask or tell us about it. This can lead to fights between us and friendships can be damaged because of this little thing. But you are still lucky not to lose that friend of yours and are still my friend.

And if there is a credit card linked to it things could be many times worse, after all people trust in their friends and they are not going to check every single thing they do, and if you have a joint account then it could be possible for your friend to abuse that trust you have in them and make some withdrawals without your permission, so it is better to keep our accounts separated, besides I think most casinos do not like arrangements like this one as it could bring financial loss to them.

I would not suggest using a credit card to deposit money for gambling because I am worried that the bill at the end of the month could increase due to the lack of control from each of us. While we might say we have good self-control, we know how the temptations of gambling will get to us so each of us should deposit some money into the sharing account and tell the others. That is to avoid cases of abuse of trust and credit card bills later. We must protect our accounts by not sharing them with friends unless they are very close to us and can be trusted.

[Slow death]

What we are trying to here is match the fictional part of movie with the real one which is very unlikely to happen as others have already told you.If someone is allowed to change the bets and remove chips then what's the fun of placing bet at all? So casino don't allow it but what if happens? You would not speak to him for rest of your life and end friendship with him but can't kill him  The gambling is full of risk and even with the same bet you might have not be able to win that amount so take a chill pill and relax and creating imaginative scenes.

here in africa if that happened i am absolutely sure that the guy who was deceived would spend years looking for his friend to do the same thing to him, here in africa they even kill each other for something like 1$, yes you are not reading it wrong, here in africa in africa people are capable of killing another person for 1$, now imagine if it was $350,000? losing that money the person would not forgive you and would spend years resentful and hating you, even if they were friends since they were children, when it comes to money here in africa people forget things like friendship and love, money becomes the most important thing It is important, even when people go to buy lottery tickets, there is already a tense atmosphere, it seems that they are in a fight

I had a similar incident, although not exactly in this way. It was 4 years ago. A close friend and I had a joint gambling account. When we were gambling, we made joint decisions and acted that way. But one day it didn't happen that way. When I was going to bet equally on two different games, my friend changed his mind according to his own opinion and played with all the money in one game. He did something like this without my knowledge. At the end of this incident, when we were going to have a lot of money, we didn't have any money. As a result, he is still my friend After this incident, he returned my main money and we ended our partnership. Since then, I have not involved anyone in gambling.

That is why it is better for us not to share our gambling accounts with other people, even our friends, because we do not know when they will use that gambling account. Moreover, if they don't have good self-control, they can use all the money in the gambling account and not ask or tell us about it. This can lead to fights between us and friendships can be damaged because of this little thing. But you are still lucky not to lose that friend of yours and are still my friend.

And if there is a credit card linked to it things could be many times worse, after all people trust in their friends and they are not going to check every single thing they do, and if you have a joint account then it could be possible for your friend to abuse that trust you have in them and make some withdrawals without your permission, so it is better to keep our accounts separated, besides I think most casinos do not like arrangements like this one as it could bring financial loss to them.

I would not suggest using a credit card to deposit money for gambling because I am worried that the bill at the end of the month could increase due to the lack of control from each of us. While we might say we have good self-control, we know how the temptations of gambling will get to us so each of us should deposit some money into the sharing account and tell the others. That is to avoid cases of abuse of trust and credit card bills later. We must protect our accounts by not sharing them with friends unless they are very close to us and can be trusted.

If there's one thing that I absolutely wouldn't do, it's using a bank card to go and play at the online casino, even at the physical casino, even if I'm a person with a lot of self-control, I wouldn't do that, for the following reason: when a person plays and has money to spare at that moment when he is playing that person will always be tempted to use that money that is with him, the thought will always be that he can use that money and then when he wins he will replace that money and with that thought the person will continue losing money, and will continue thinking that next time he will win and will replace the money but at the end of the day the person will lose all the money that is in the bank. the right thing is for the person to always deposit a small amount, that even when he loses, he will not have more money to deposit