Name me one example in which you will see strictly better results by complaining than by thinking up different potential solutions. You can't. Because complaining is a destructive force with a net effect that is either zero or negative. What you call "complaining" I call advocacy. And advocacy works. We wouldn't have the UK modern slavery laws without advocacy. Making it illegal for Western companies to profit from slavery is highly effective, because the directors go directly to jail. And guess what, company directors sit up in their chairs and pay attention when you say "if you don't do X, you will go to jail". Then the directors tell their C-suite, "don't fuck up on X, or I will fire you without hesitation". Those are real results, in real time. That is one you will see strictly better results by "complaining" rather than blaming the victim. Because what you are doing is blaming the slave for being a slave. And that achieves nothing. People like you avoid having to take responsibility for anything by always blaming the victim. "If he wasn't such a dissident, he wouldn't have gone to Chinese prison camp". You keep ignoring one crucial thing. How does trying to get rid of slavery in shithole countries benefit us? Discussing something is the opposite of "ignoring" it. Dismissing it it is exactly "ignoring" it. NOW, tell me who is doing what here. Ohh shit, 5 pages and I don't have time for this shit this morning. BBL to argue.  |
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If said slave chooses to spend time that he could've used e.g. on devising an escape plan on complaining.
That's a joke right? We are talking about young girls who are chained to beds to work as prostitutes. We are talking about kids on fishing trawlers in the middle of the Pacific Ocean. We are talking about people who have been in North Korean concentration camps for two generations, whose entire family will be executed if they escape. Your opinion is they should not complain about their circumstances, and we as wealthy Westerners should not try to help them? You keep pulling shit out of your ass and trying to shove it down my throat. You act as if I had stated that considering helping them or actively (trying to) do so shouldn't be allowed, which is false. None of that crap has anything to do with the argument though. Name me one example in which you will see strictly better results by complaining than by thinking up different potential solutions. You can't. Because complaining is a destructive force with a net effect that is either zero or negative. Nobody is stopping you from helping others, and props to you if you're not just a hypocrite running your mouth and actually doing what you preach to others (which I doubt). But none of that has anything to do with the fact that energy invested in complaining is wasted energy. Best case you will make people aware of a given problem, but if that was your goal there are vastly more efficient ways that won't cause other gullible people to just complain as well. Simply denying they have a right to complain about their situation is detrimental to their cause. Deriding them is paramount to helping oppress them. I may not agree with what you have to say but I will fight to the death for your right to say it. But you should be aware of what repercussions your words may reap, if you are aware and still don't care then I will fail to listen although still acknowledge your right to speech. Even hate speech should be free although abhorrent, the problem is you can;t draw the line clearly, one mans hate is another mans reality.  |
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If said slave chooses to spend time that he could've used e.g. on devising an escape plan on complaining.
That's a joke right? We are talking about young girls who are chained to beds to work as prostitutes. We are talking about kids on fishing trawlers in the middle of the Pacific Ocean. We are talking about people who have been in North Korean concentration camps for two generations, whose entire family will be executed if they escape. Your opinion is they should not complain about their circumstances, and we as wealthy Westerners should not try to help them? We should not try to help them. We should keep them out of our country. We have enough problems to deal with. Some of them arguably more severe than theirs. That really is the crux of the debate, should we help the guy on the other side of the street or put up a wall and ignore his plight. And I would postulate that your opinion on this depends on just what kind of a person you are. “Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free.” |
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This would be amazing if not for the infinite supply and stupid emissions policy.
Just because it's design does not meet your specific use case does not make it stupid. Actually it is quite the opposite. |
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So you are stating that the child soldier in your example would be better off complaining than trying to figure out how to stay alive or find a way out of his current life?
I have been speaking in generalities but yes if that was his only outlet other than getting killed. I refer now you back to my original post, this is why speaking in absolutes is always wrong. So you'd rather have people complain and die than having them trying to figure out steps to improve their life in whatever ways accessible to them. How is that supposed to ever accomplish anything? Which part of "other than" did you not understand? I have been speaking in generalities but yes if that was his only outlet other than getting killed. I refer now you back to my original post, this is why speaking in absolutes is always wrong.
Absolutely. Always. +WO  General reminder to everyone that slavery has been abolished in our part of the world for hundreds of years.
General reminder that there are no criminals and everyone adheres to the law. |
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He's correct the level of journalism in this space is on par with straight bloggers.
It only appears that way because this happens to be a niche that you are particularly educated on. It's the same for every other subject too. Remember this when you are listening to "journalism" on some subject you aren't that knowledgeable on. If you were more knowledgeable on that subject it would sound just as bad as it does for the thing you are knowledgeable on. I hear ya, and I blame it on the money trail to the click baiters. Nite all. |
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So you are stating that the child soldier in your example would be better off complaining than trying to figure out how to stay alive or find a way out of his current life?
I have been speaking in generalities but yes if that was his only outlet other than getting killed. I refer now you back to my original post, this is why speaking in absolutes is always wrong. |
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Allow me to pull it from the quote above: Anyone who has time to complain about wealth inequality doesn't really deserve moving upwards in the food chain, as they could've invested the same time on figuring out sensible goals for their life as well as some steps towards them.
You're welcome. If you truly believe that is globally true then you are either blind or a fool. first world views for first world problems. You cannot think beyond Nintendo fat slobs that leach off society. The world goes beyond your front yard. What opportunities can these kids take advantage of? https://www.child-soldiers.org/where-are-there-child-soldiersI have no idea. I'm not on the ground where '56 non-state organizations' in '14 warring countries' are employing kids in this manner. All opportunity is specific to the individual. You're going to need to be more precise in your inquiry. But to come full circle, what does that have to do with BITMILLIONAIRE's original statement? I shall repeat it once again, should you have already forgotten. Anyone who has time to complain about wealth inequality doesn't really deserve moving upwards in the food chain, as they could've invested the same time on figuring out sensible goals for their life as well as some steps towards them.
And I will refer you back to my original reply to your snip of his post for your full circle. Update:There is an official response from Binance CEO  He's correct the level of journalism in this space is on par with straight bloggers. There are no fact checkers left and there is no accounting. The revenue stream has changed from people buying news to people being tricked by click bait sites. |
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Hi guys. Been a while. Hodling strong. How is kovri progressing?
It's a shitshow apparently, sorry can't find the links. And my search came up empty?? I think Globb0 has them handy. |
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Dump your monero before its too late boys, Grin taking over
w0w, look at that nice new Red trust you got there buddy! Welcome to ignore as well. ;P |
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I wonder how much of the fractional reserve will be set aside for them? |
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Very interesting rise in price and volume (as well as hashpower  ). Not in concert with much of anything else... Not really huge yet, but some of the highest volume on an upswing in months. Thoughts? I was sitting there watching the last dump before the rise and had a bid in at .012251 IIRC and it dropped right to my bid and never touched it before shooting up. It was like going to a strip club. I think those that were waiting on Grin realize it is years away and are trying to quietly get back in. Grin is amazingly cool. But there are SEVERAL issues that mean it is not a replacement for Monero or Bitcoin. 1. New tech, new implementation. Unproven. 2. Difficult UX (remember when Monero was only for "geeks"?)3. Diametrically different emission to BTC. And even though XMR has the tail emission which is hated by 21MM purists, Grin's version is even more anathema for them. 4. Monero is still best in class privacy. Period. I think #4 is where Monero needs to continue to push development. Along with scaling improvements that is really what is important. Monero's privacy is the only real reason for it to exist at all in my humble opinion. To be honest I am wondering if MW is better as a sidechain on BTC/XMR than as a base layer... but I have not spent as much time analyzing that. The glory days when people laughed at you and said, "NO OFFICIAL GUI!?! What a shitcoin!!!" Lol, Soon TM seems so long ago now. |
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Very interesting rise in price and volume (as well as hashpower ). Not in concert with much of anything else... Not really huge yet, but some of the highest volume on an upswing in months. Thoughts? I was sitting there watching the last dump before the rise and had a bid in at .012251 IIRC and it dropped right to my bid and never touched it before shooting up. It was like going to a strip club. I think those that were waiting on Grin realize it is years away and are trying to quietly get back in. Grin is amazingly cool. But there are SEVERAL issues that mean it is not a replacement for Monero or Bitcoin. 1. New tech, new implementation. Unproven. 2. Difficult UX (remember when Monero was only for "geeks"?) 3. Diametrically different emission to BTC. And even though XMR has the tail emission which is hated by 21MM purists, Grin's version is even more anathema for them. 4. Monero is still best in class privacy. Period. I think #4 is where Monero needs to continue to push development. Along with scaling improvements that is really what is important. Monero's privacy is the only real reason for it to exist at all in my humble opinion. To be honest I am wondering if MW is better as a sidechain on BTC/XMR than as a base layer... but I have not spent as much time analyzing that. That is a good question and While I would think having Monero as a base layer will not allow (as much potential) leakage and keep the privacy safer I'm not sure if the trade off for bitcoins security of chain is a better option. So basically, Idunno either. |
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Allow me to pull it from the quote above: Anyone who has time to complain about wealth inequality doesn't really deserve moving upwards in the food chain, as they could've invested the same time on figuring out sensible goals for their life as well as some steps towards them.
You're welcome. If you truly believe that is globally true then you are either blind or a fool. first world views for first world problems. You cannot think beyond Nintendo fat slobs that leach off society. The world goes beyond your front yard. What opportunities can these kids take advantage of? https://www.child-soldiers.org/where-are-there-child-soldiers |
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What really is BS is stating that everyone has the same opportunity to endeavour to improve their situation. In order to do that you'll need, well, opportunity. If you're totally tied up in whatever circumstances you might not have that.
Not everybody has the same opportunities. But everybody has opportunities. This idea that anyone can just 'break free' at any time from any circumstances is just plain naive frankly.
Not break free. Rise above. The discussion started with an observation that there is a permanent whiner class that does nothing other than whine. And it strayed into patently false global assumptions and accusations, btw that whiner class is whats called a vocal minority and is easily ignored. |
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I actually want a sailboat because I love sailing and the sea. Doesn't need to be too nice, and I don't think it is some huge money hole. If I bought a $25,000 sailboat, I would expect to put another $7000 into it's repair, upkeep, etc. To use it for 5 summers and re-sell at something like $15,000 is well worth it in my case.
Word of advice from a sailing brotha, expect to spend as much on repairs and maintenance and upgrades as on the boat itself. That's why the definition of a boat is "a hole in the water you throw money into". |
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Anyone who has time to complain about wealth inequality doesn't really deserve moving upwards in the food chain, as they could've invested the same time on figuring out sensible goals for their life as well as some steps towards them.
QFT. +1 What he said. What if they used the time, then figured out the solutions and then realized every one of those solutions would get them killed so decided to just sit back and complain until someone else finds a better solution that doesn't get them killed? I can't even figure out what you are getting at. Working on life will get you killed? I guess in some sense. In the long run, we're all dead. Life is hard. Buck up, bucko - or get lapped by those willing to put in the work. I dated a girl for a number of years. Her father was wealthy and powerful. He owned 25+ houses that he rented out. He was also a drunk and highly abusive. The mother eventually divorced him after a series of domestic violence incidents. The father decided to make the mother's life a living hell. He hired lawyers to sue the mother for everything under the sun, stalked the mother and tried to destroy her friendship networks. This went on for five years. The mother grew deeply depressed and semi suicidal. My girlfriend and her sister at the age of 8 had to get the mother out of bed in the morning, get her dressed so the mother could drive them to school. Some days they couldn't get their mother out of bed so they missed school. My girlfriend was incredibly smart and motivated but she missed a lot of school during that five year period. It affected her grades and she had to work hard to try to catch up. She also had the mental load of trying to parent her own mother through the divorce and aftermath. There is no doubt in my mind if she had had a normal, stable childhood, she would have been a surgeon or rocket scientist. Instead she will likely never achieve her full potential. Let's not kid ourselves that everyone has equality of opportunity. Because they don't. Relevance of anecdote? Sounds to me as if you are claiming that, seeing as we all have access to different opportunities, it isn't even worth trying to improve your circumstance. I call bullshit on that. Everyone has the same opportunity to endeavor to improve their situation. Show me where anyone said otherwise. no one said someone can not ATTEMPT to better their standard because of where that standard started. Your argument is a red herring fallacy or your reading comprehension has failed you. Nice try on qualifying a statement to change it's content though. Anyone saying that success is linked to hardwork deserves to be let alone in any third world country to see how their hardwork will be rewarded. Or in any poor family in any Western country.
Absolute twaddle. The circumstances of one's birth are relevant, indeed. However, anyone who works hard will experience more success than one who does not. Period. Absolute bullshit again trying to change the argument to suit your reply. |
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Very interesting rise in price and volume (as well as hashpower ). Not in concert with much of anything else... Not really huge yet, but some of the highest volume on an upswing in months. Thoughts? I was sitting there watching the last dump before the rise and had a bid in at .012251 IIRC and it dropped right to my bid and never touched it before shooting up. It was like going to a strip club. I think those that were waiting on Grin realize it is years away and are trying to quietly get back in. |
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EDIT: Hey Bob, shouldn't you be doing the 31 algo?
Dude. I have no fucking idea what's going on. How do I get off this shitty ride, while getting paid out, ASAP ?!?1?!!1?? Someone in that mining thread needs to organize some structure on what those pools are doing. I was going to run a miner in a VM for fun until I found the miners needed all those M$ dependencies and I couldn't get a pci passthrough on the virtualbox working correctly. I sold off my gpus years ago so only have a few in my main system to play with. Less than a decade ago, 10,000 bitcoin bought you a pizza. Today, 10 will buy you a car. Five years from now, one may buy you a house.  #HMcreatedBULLsentiment 10 years from now 10 will get even the roach laid! |
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8.PM
Another game to try and catch Some precious BTC’s
I like your games Mic! This kind of shit too too hard for my brain Ok, here's a 1BTC puzzle.
The question is the following:
WhyTheCombOfNatashaOtomoskiHas21Teeth?.txt
The solution is a 32 characters long plain-text (the private key).
Hint: 8 camel case english words, no special symbols
Happy puzzling!
G/cbms/K/DNzcRin5v2B03iXdbpdVoZbTebt7KG95j3FUqnJvcP9rDYcGpSV27RLspR7SlPjqma4h0tDAMwovIo=
txid 39ae730abf9190f1985a3600e35b6451efc51bfb885bc9d1c3b91d502de3907d
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5096267.0https://explorer.goopen.si/address/179sxfh6rw6bHSo5wVUhLP96k46QaEzVP |
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