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6441  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Volatility Trading (BTCUSD/VIX) on: May 10, 2012, 10:30:36 PM
How do volatility contracts work?
6442  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: mtgox/bitcoinica historical price data? on: May 10, 2012, 10:08:52 PM
Here's one source for Mt. Gox data:

 - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AmcTCtjBoRWUdHJuUE1mUkFxa3A0eHBDQkxZLVVFZmc

Origin of data:

 - http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD

Choose custom date range, then click "Load raw data" link.
6443  Bitcoin / Press / Re: NEW articles in Press Forum on: May 10, 2012, 09:37:17 PM
2012-05-10 Bitcoin Report: A Breakout Warning [MensNewsDaily.com
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=80755.0
6444  Economy / Speculation / Re: 2012-05-10 Bitcoin Report: A Breakout Warning on: May 10, 2012, 09:36:14 PM
Ha, that's from s3052's subscription service.

Posted by s3052, so it was intentionally published publicly.
6445  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Frighteningly Ambitious Bitcoin Startup Ideas on: May 10, 2012, 10:35:59 AM

2. Bitcoin Ad network
What I think Bitcoin echo system needs is something large like the Google ad sense network.

There were three that just launched in the past couple of weeks:

 - http://www.BitcoinAdvertisers.com
 - http://www.ThroughAds.com
 - http://www.thebtcnetwork.com

And that is in addition to:
 - http://www.OperationFabulous.com
 - http://www.AnonymousAds.com


3. Large Affiliate Market/Network

Just like the Bitcoin Ad network above we need a large affiliate Ad network like the likes of Commision junction, Maxbounty, Clickbank, etc. The network would be 100% Bitcoin based. The advertisers would pay in Bitccoin and publishers and affiliates would get paid in Bitcoins. The ad network should be a general purpose network offering  a wide range of products and services for promotion.

I know that ThroughAds has Cost per action (CPA), Cost per click (CPC) or Cost per 1,000 impressions (CPM) billing methods.  Others might have this as well.

4. Bitcoin Bill pay
Perhaps the most disruptive idea in my mind is a Bitcoin bill paying services. This service would take your Bitcoins and covert it to dollars and then pay most of your bills, like cell, utillites, whatever.

That's coming.  Maybe not in one step like that, but when you have bitcoins you can today use them to buy mobile prepaid wireless monthly bills and top-up type plans.
 - http://btcbuy.info/CallingCards.cshtml

Another forum member was soliciting feedback on a bill payment system:
 - http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=79669.msg883857#msg883857
 - http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=78254.msg873107#msg873107
6446  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: Bets of Bitcoin - Bitcoin betting on real world events on: May 10, 2012, 09:39:57 AM
In reading the Tweets for new bets, I somehow notice the bet statement as if it were a news item or statement of fact, and not a bet statement with two options.

For Example:

Quote
Bet: Greece will leave the Euro in 2012 http://betsofbitco.in/item?id=370 #bitcoin
- http://twitter.com/#!/betsofbitcoin/status/199679638841196544

What might help to make it more clear would be if there were appended some text to help point out that it is a bet.

e.g., I add [Agree or Disagree?]

Bet: Greece will leave the Euro in 2012 [Agree or Disagree?] http://betsofbitco.in/item?id=370 #bitcoin

Then it becomes a call to action.
6447  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Satoshi Dice -- Statistical Analysis on: May 10, 2012, 09:28:55 AM
I thought all reward transactions included the wager transaction as an input.  Thus, if someone invalidated the wager by double-spending, they'd also invalidate the reward transaction.  And thus it would be pointless.

But if I can double spend (e.g., Finney attack) to invalidate only my losing wagers, did I really lose?

See:
 - http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=77870.msg882919#msg882919
6448  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The best new Bitcoin idea from China! (MACAU and BITCOINS) on: May 10, 2012, 09:22:32 AM
Anyone live near a university with a large Chinese student population?  
(of course it's not just Chinese students who could benefit from this, but this is a thread about Bitcoin in China)

First attempt at it didn't go so well:
 - http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=8492.0
6449  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: So a newbie needs to sell $90.00 of amazon gift cards for $75-$80 in bitcoins on: May 10, 2012, 05:00:13 AM
for the love of god cut a bro a break and buy my gift cards  Tongue

Next time, use BitInstant.
6450  Economy / Speculation / Re: The Weekend Dip Myth on: May 10, 2012, 04:15:14 AM
Without knowing the impact of the Golden Week backlog of wired funds to Mt. Gox, it is probably wise to re-enter now rather than waiting this dip out much further hoping for a drop below $5.

Well, the dip did come, below $5 as proudhon predicted.

So here we are, once again.  Wednesday evening (west) / Thursday morning (east).  Time to apply the test.

The high in the past week was a little under $5.20 (last week about this time) and the high in the 7 day period prior to that was just a tiny bit higher but also was just under $5.20.  So overall it looks like a downtrend does continue.  And as a result then, for the second week in aA row, the Weekend Dip indicator is flashing green.




 - http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD#rg60zczsg2012-04-18zeg2012-05-11ztgSzm1g10zm2g25

This situation has historically been followed with a dip over the weekend.  The weekend dip strategy then suggests to sell bitcoins heading into this weekend and to then buy them back if a selloff occurs.  The time to buy back will vary.  If there is a quick selloff, then the rally back might be quick as well (usually thanks to arbitrage).

Last week selling at $5.084 and then buying back Sunday afternoon (west) at about $5.035 caused the trade to basically break even after considering the exchange fees.  Perfect timing with waiting and seeing the drop below $5 would have garnered a bit over a 1% gain.

As of this writing, the exchange rate is bouncing between $5.02 and $5.07 but it appears to be headed down.  Being the first to sell as it goes down further gets the best price, so there's no gain from being patient here.  So, here goes ... selling at $5.05 into the weekend, hoping for a dip.



Factors that might cause selling at $5.05 to end up being a dumb move?

Well, there's a few things going on in Europe, for one.  Bitcoin is probably seeing some demand as a result.  BitcoinNordic writes:

"Demand has lately been too high for us to keep up. Expect a refill of Bitcoins in a day or two. Also, we're acquiring more liquidity soon."
 - http://twitter.com/#!/BitcoinNordic/status/200356315401433088

Additionally, the novelty among first-time players of SatoshiDICE should be wearing off soon but their daily transaction counts are holding up, meaning here's another area where Bitcoin serves a need very well.  And the weekend dip strategy had never been tested with this scenario of a runaway success afoot.  As the currency finds wider and wider use elsewhere as well, the demand will go up.

As a result of a promising future, fewer parties are willing to sell aggressively.  They and others look to buy more with anything that looks like a dip.

If a new rally up is to start could it come between now and Monday?   It has happened before.  

Whatever the chances though they probably pale in comparison to the weekend dip strategy's success ratio.

And for that reason, selling at $5.05 might not end up being a mistake after all.
6451  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: transactions wont confirm... on: May 10, 2012, 02:14:00 AM
I thought sending .005 as a tx fee was pretty good....lol i mostly see tx fees of.0005

Just to make sure there is no understanding, the fee you add when you send a transaction will not help nor hurt the payout transaction from SatoshiDICE.  They are two completely separate transactions as far as any benefit from adding fees go.

The amount and the age of the coins used in the spend are relevant.  Bitcoin wasn't designed to be a microtransaction payment system so smaller SatoshiDICE wagers and payouts (particularly on the losing wagers) will appear to the network to be spam-like.  The more popular SatoshiDICE (and other ways microtransactions occur) becomes more popular the problem as you describe will become more widely felt.
6452  Bitcoin / Press / Re: 2012-05-09 Bitcoins: A Decentralized Digital Currency? [Arbitrage Magazine] on: May 10, 2012, 01:41:25 AM
Doh! You're right, disquss message shows it was commented four months ago
6453  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [VIDEO] New Animated Bitcoin Video! "Screw Banks" make it viral! on: May 10, 2012, 12:38:37 AM
(3) The notion of "screwing" the banks is insulting and juvenile. "We" (the "bitcoin community") are not out to screw anyone.

I interpreted the use of that word as a slang word used in the following referenced from Dictionary.com:

screw off, Slang .
  b.) to leave; go away.

 - http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/screw?s=t

So, not as in "to cheat" but as in, "stop using them" or "forget them!"

Not at all. It's not "screw off," it's "screw." Dictionary.com defines this variously as meaning "to coerce or threaten"; "to extract or extort"; "to cheat or take advantage of someone"; "to practice extortion." There is no ambiguity at all with regards to what this means in American English, though perhaps there is with respect to other dialects of English.

If you re-listen to the last few seconds of the video you will know the context, and it is not "to threaten" or "extort" or "cheat".   They would have used the phrase "Fuck banks" but couldn't for obvious reasons.  To me, there is little doubt as to the meaning.

As far as to whom a message must resonate the most with (assuming there's only one message to deliver), see the left half or so of the following:



 - http://payments.intuit.com/mobile-payments-infographics
6454  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: get at my bitcoins without updating block chain on: May 09, 2012, 10:51:23 PM
I'm a little surprised that no one has created a simple, small program by now that just reads the wallet.dat file and spits back out a simple text file of the private keys, in the desired format (hex or whatever format starts with '5'.)

Multibit and Armory aren't close enough?
6455  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Date for 25 BTC per Block on: May 09, 2012, 10:49:31 PM
I think it's pretty safe to say that if you think the price per coin is going to stay the same or rise then we'll see the date before December 9th, 2012 for sure.

Let's say the difficulty in December is up over 15% from here.

But to get there from here saw a 10% rise in the next adjustment, then a 8% drop in the one after, over and over for the next 14 adjustments remaining before block 210,000.

Even with the difficuly increasing, the date for 210,000 would be pushed later, past December 9th even I believe.  That is because the faster hashing burns through the calendar days on the way up and does not more than offset the death march that occurs on the calendar when trying to get to the next adjustment when hashing is below the difficulty level.

So it isn't just a question of will the difficulty be higher, but will it be volatile from one adjustment period to the next (on net, pushing the date further back), or will it be an even steady increase along the way ( pulling the date to be earlier ).
6456  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Satoshi Dice -- Statistical Analysis on: May 09, 2012, 10:29:38 PM
a quick basic question: would it be possible for any third party to alter these statistics if he was generating 1diceXXX vanity addresses and sending random transactions around?

There are 24 specific 1diceXXX vanity addresses that SatoshiDice generated for their service.

Anyone can create their own 1diceXXX address as well, but that doesn't have any impact on the statistics for those 24.

There is one attack method I'm aware off ... send wagers that are too low (below the minimum) or too high (exceed the maximum) and thus the site sends a refund by returning the payment (and pays the transaction fee, mind you).  The service has ways to deal with that if it becomes a problem (deduct the fee before sending the refund, for example).

The other problem is the dust-like wagers.  The minimums are small enough that the site loses money on the smallest wagers due to transaction fees for the return payment.  That too can be adjusted should it become a problem.

But any transfer within the accepted range is a wager, and thus gets played and the return transaction created.   I can''t think of anything further that this third party could do (or why) to mess with the site.   (well, the Satoshi Dice site does describe other attack vectors, but they are precise and require double spending using Finney attack or other methods.)
6457  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Two Newbies walk into the Do Not Use PayPal Saloon... on: May 09, 2012, 10:14:34 PM
Hey how do I get in this WoT thing?

The #bitcoin-otc Web of Trust (WoT) is an an irc-based web of trust network.   You'll need to install GPG to use it:

Installation:
 - http://wiki.bitcoin-otc.com/wiki/GPG_authentication#Third-party_guides

Once you've registered, others with whom you've traded can rate you:
 - http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratings.php

Also, once registered you can place orders in the #bitcoin-otc marketplace:
 - http://bitcoin-otc.com/vieworderbook.php

You don't even need to be registered to chat with other -otc users in the foyer:
 - http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=#bitcoin-otc-foyer

6458  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Two Newbies walk into the Do Not Use PayPal Saloon... on: May 09, 2012, 09:57:39 PM
Why don't you mind you're your own fuckin' business.

That was a joke, by the way.  [Update: Oh, and quoted exactly as it existed in the OP.]  Though I do make trades through #bitcoin-otc where I'm using PayPal to buy or sell bitcoins or MTGUSD.   The -otc Web of Trust (WoT) helps signficantly, for both sides.
6459  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Air gapped wallet printer on: May 09, 2012, 09:55:45 PM
Pardon my ignorance but what does "air gapped" mean exactly?

Not connected to the network.

There actually are varying degrees of this though even.   You could have a desktop Windows system with the network cable unplugged and no wif-fi and try to call that airgapped, but it isn't.  Because if that system was compromised by a keystroke capture or malware that read the wallet.dat file as then that malware could transmit when the network connectivity is eventually restored.

So the more secure air gapped device doesn't have connectivity and won't.  Since you don't want to have to have around an extra PC or other device just for Bitcoin, a less-capable, specialized system like this wallet printer idea might be more useful.

 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_gap_(networking)
6460  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Two Newbies walk into the Do Not Use PayPal Saloon... on: May 09, 2012, 09:25:35 PM
Why don't you mind you're own fuckin' business.
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