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7241  Other / Politics & Society / Re: U.S. CrowdFunding Bill Passes, CAPS Advisory Panel on: March 24, 2012, 10:10:10 AM
A "funding portal" that will act as intermediary between crowdfunding investors and crowdfunding issuers is a type of broker.  Crowdfunding is now an industry and there is this group within the industry that has formed to become the industry's governance group.  They've created a panel that came up with a framework that specifies what and how the funding portals will do the work that they do.  This framework is called the Crowdfunding Accreditation for Platform Standards (CAPS).  

The Crowdfunding Act is not signed into law even yet, so the SEC hasn't deemed what rules the funding portals must follow.  CAPS was apparently created though to meet or exceed what those rules from the SEC will likely be requiring.   The creators of CAPS are a governing group called the CAPS Council, and includes key people that helped to guide and lobby for the Crowdfunding Act legislation.  

They've already had eight crowdfunding (funding portal) platforms successfully go through the process to become educated on and accredited in CAPS and are now having another twenty of these funding portals become accredited.

 - http://www.crowdsourcing.org/editorial/crowdfunding-industry-establishes-standards-to-help-prevent-fraud/12670
 - http://www.crowdsourcing.org/caps
7242  Other / Politics & Society / U.S. CrowdFunding Bill on: March 24, 2012, 10:06:34 AM
S.2190 the CROWDFUND Act passed in the Senate this past week.

The next step is for it to be sent to the House to be reconciled with the JOBS Act passed previously and a revised bill passed by both the House and the Senate.  Then President Obama is expected to sign it and it becomes law.  But hold on, then the SEC has 270 days to make the rules for the regulation.   So give it nine months before the unwashed masses will be given the immense privilege of being able to invest $100 into someone else's project.

Here's a snippet I posted in another thread relating what the Crowdfunding bill brings:

In the U.S. a crowdfunding bill passed in the House of Representatives and is currently making its way (slowly) through the Senate.  Some who are familiar with the bill's backers are hoping to see it passed and enacted into law in March of this year.  Similar to how GLBSE works, a crowdfunding bill will allow for the first time in generations the ability for a company to offer equity to the general public.  Current restrictions limit the field of investors (other than friends and family) to only those that qualify as "accredited".

Unfortunately for most solo entrepreneurs and for small startups that are not already generating revenues the crowdfunding law will not help much.  The law, as has been proposed, will still require an expensive intermediary funding portal that would likely not even consider still be too expensive for many of the types of micro startups that GLBSE can accommodate.

As a result, those in the U.S. that list under GLBSE by themselves (as U.S. entities) would likely still be violating securities laws by raising capital from the general public through GLBSE.  

Perhaps at some point (once specific listing and investing requirements are known after the law is passed) there would be the possibility of an intermediary listing with GLBSE companies from its portfolio to a set of investors that it has authorized -- for the purpose of enabling trade between members of the set of investors.  raised.  [i.e., using GLBSE not to raise capital but to use GLBSE's exchange technology, liked a "Second Market" for crowdfunded capital.]  That doesn't do anything to help the would-be entrepreneurs left unserved by the crowdfunding bill though.

It is great to see the competition though.  Just like how Kickstarter and IndigGoGo found a workaround pushed boundaries relating to pre-selling to the rigid securities law hopefully some smart cookies will figure out how to legally use GLBSE for crowdfunding in the U.S.  This exchange will probably be used from the U.S. regardless for the reasons including it serving a great need currently left unmet, and being able to do so by being small enough to fly under the regulators' radar and by operating in a manner that enforcement probably isn't motivated nor prepared to aggressively pursue.

There are many details though -- assuming they remain in the Act and become law.

For instance, if the amount of funds being raised (IPO'd) are under $100K, the latest tax return plus self-certified financials are all that is required for analysis of financial health by the funding portal.  Above that amount and the financials must be reviewed by a public accountant (a "compilation") and above $500K audited financials are required.

The Crowdfunding bill has limits as to how much one can invest.  For instance the maximum investment (added, per-year) in all crowdfunded projects combined for any investor is 5% of the investor's annual income when either that person's income or net worth is under $100K (though regardless of income at least $2K is allowed).

To raise funds, registration with a "funding portal" is required.  The funding portal does background checks, ensures that investors are aware of the risks [which possibly means giving an opinion (or rating) on the project's viability,] verifies that the above maximum investment levels aren't exceeded and manages the money during the raising of funds.  This "portal" function will not be cheap, so most of the types of projects you see on Kickstarter will remain on Kickstarter looking for for donations rather than being able to raise capital instead.

The Crowdfunding bill will not allow IPO'd shares to be sold for the first year after purchase to other investors (except to accredited investors or back to the issuer).  Compare that to GLBSE which has no lockup period once IPOs begin trading.

The raising of funds must hit the target (i.e., be fully funded) otherwise investors can opt to cancel any funds already paid to the portal.  Once fully funded, a 21 day hold occurs before the portal delivers the funds raised.   This is to give additional time to vet the issuer.

There may be restrictions on how the offer is pitched -- so forget sending out a tweet that reads: "Please buy shares in my new project!".  There are restrictions on using an agent or paid campaigner for help in raising funds as well.  On the upside, if you will only be issuing to accredited ("wealthy") investors, you actually will be allowed to pitch yourself at an event for the public now though.

All this is very interesting but nothing was really unexpected.  One exception though was when I learned that there is an advisory council (CAPS Council) that has already been formed and has already been operating to come up with guidelines that these funding portals would follow in vetting issuers who are raising the funds.   I'll post that in the next thread.
7243  Bitcoin / Legal / Webinar: Digital Cash: What is Bitcoin and is it legal? [April 11, 2012] on: March 24, 2012, 08:25:33 AM
Webinar titled: Digital Cash: What is Bitcoin and is it legal?

Quote
FACULTY: Joseph Alotta
AIR DATE: April 11th 2012 3:00pm

Description:
Although the term “Bitcoin” is unfamiliar to many attorneys, this digital currency is rapidly becoming a global phenomenon.  Originating in January of 2009, the Bitcoin is a new kind of cash that is transferred as payment through a decentralized cash system.  But what is the global impact and significance of this digital currency?  Specifically, what economic and legal issues arise with the use of this digital currency?  Join financial advisor and investment manager Joseph Alotta as he introduces the Bitcoin and explains the history surrounding its inception.  Specifically, this CLE course will address the economic impact of the Bitcoin and its main features such as private keys and security.  Mr. Alotta will also provide legal considerations in the wake of this new technology and the possible international effects.  Mr Alotta will also explain the important numerical concepts in a manner that all individuals, regardless of technical background, will understand.  Don't miss this important presentation on what may become the future currency in the global economy.

Agenda
I.      History
II.     Economy
III.    Private Keys & Security
IV.    Legal Issues
V.     Bad Money History
VI.    The Future

Schedule:
Date:    Wednesday, April 11, 2012
Time:    3:00p.m. - 4:00p.m. (EST)

Live Webcast Purchase Information:
To watch this live webcast, you must first purchase the course on the right-hand side. Then go to http://www.lawline.com/webcast at the scheduled date and time to view the program. If you purchase this course, you will also have access to the on-demand version when it becomes available in our catalog.

Technical Assistance:
If you have any questions or concerns, please do not hesitate to contact us at 1 877 518-0660.

The cost is $40.  Some day bitcoin will be a payment method in more online shopping carts.  For now it is Visa/MC/AmEx, etc.

 - http://www.lawline.com/cle/course-details.php?i=1942
7244  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: US Accountant recommendations? on: March 24, 2012, 08:22:05 AM
Can anyone recommend a US accountant to help file US personal taxes associated with Bitcoin trading?

Here's one: Dewey, Cheatem & Howe

err ..., here maybe:
 Jankovic LLC - The First CPA Firm to Accept Bitcoins
 - http://www.jankovicllc.com/apps/blog/jankovic-llc-the-first-cpa-firm-to

they accept bitcoins so I would guess they'ld know how to account for them.

If not, here's a starting place:
 - https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Tax_compliance

But if you do find one, you could suggest they participate in this webcast course:
 - http://www.lawline.com/cle/course-details.php?i=1942
7245  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Las Vegas Property Management Co Accepts Bitcoins for Rent Payments on: March 24, 2012, 07:46:20 AM
This is a notable milestone, and I've added it to the list of Firsts:
 - http://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Bitcoin_Firsts

This not only broadens awareness of Bitcoin to a wider audience (each of the 100 properties will see "bitcoin" on the website's menu), it also works as an endorsement giving Bicoin needed credibility.  Hey -- if my landlord accepts bitcoin is must be legit!  And, of course, a tenant that receives bitcoin (e.g. from an online store, or mining, etc,) now has a place to spend those without having to convert them into fiat.  

That's how bitcoin goes from just being a digital currency to being real money!

His wife runs the property management company. He does software development.

Is that custom software for that company, or is that a vertical that is sold to other property management companies?

Also, out of curiosity some questions.  Assuming the lease is in terms of USDs, then the amount of rent is calculated based on the current market exchange rate when it is paid, or the market's "open" price on the first of the month, or ??   And does the landlord include a fee (to offset the exchange fee the property manager has) or perhaps a discount (as bitcoin costs less for the property manager than the debit card payment method).    Additionally, does the payment method allow partial payment in bitcoins with the remainder via other methods?
7246  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: p2pfoundation Bitcoin criticism on: March 24, 2012, 05:25:14 AM
They like Ripple a lot more: http://p2pfoundation.net/Ripple

Maybe, but take notice of what they are actually using:

 "Today, the P2P Foundation has payed its first salary in Bitcoin, the new global reserve currency based on social sovereignty"
 - http://twitter.com/#!/mbauwens/status/183139264731688960

Bauwens had a number of tweets today regarding bitcoin:
 "bitcoin as "global reserve currency": if national currency collapses, you can switch to 'global' bitcoin, and back again;"
 "bitcoin's social soveignty: not created by banks, not by state, but by a group of people who trust in a protocol"

Stacy Herbert of RT / Max @KeiserReport will be doing an interview with him.
7247  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] Max Keiser's website PirateMyFilm.com now accepts Bitcoins! on: March 24, 2012, 03:17:25 AM
I see that another film project on PMF which I helped to fund is now having trouble collecting.  It was oversubscribed even when it hit green light state but then only 80% of the amount that was pledged ended up getting collected.

This can really cause a problem when the project director starts to make commitments based on the funding target being reached and then collections fall short.

One method to prevent this from occurring is to require payment (as escrow) at the time the pledge is made.  

PayPal's terms of service don't allow for prepayments like this, so the project that wants this escrow feature would need to be configured as a project that accepts only bitcoin.  The problem then though is getting enough pledges for the film if it requires not only bitcoin payments but bitcoin payment upfront.  This specific film is based on a current event in the news so if it took, let's say, twice as long to get funding it might no longer have been a viable project.

What would be fantastic to see happen would be if a star from the KickStarter world  wants to do a project where equity is issued and comes on over to PMF.  The project then becomes a financial success for its investors and a bunch of those who donate through KickStarter start thinking that capitalism through PMF looks like an interesting alternative -- even if the project's investors have to figure out how to buy bitcoins to participate.

Here's my suggestion for PMF to allow projects to be configured for prepay/escrow:

 - https://getsatisfaction.com/piratemyfilm/topics/allow_a_project_to_require_escrow_payment
7248  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How would Bitcoin have prevented the MF Global client money going missing? on: March 24, 2012, 01:16:43 AM
Triple-entry accounting is a related topic here:
 - http://iang.org/papers/triple_entry.html

But as far as this story -- the latest is that it was Corzine himself who directed at least a $200M transfer of customer's funds.
 - http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-03-23/mf-global-s-corzine-ordered-funds-moved-to-jpmorgan-memo-says.html

We still don't know the exact details but perhaps in a Bitcoin world with multisignature capabilities available then even if a direct order from the CEO were given the transfer wouldn't have been possible without the corresponding signature from a second party, like the firm's risk officer, for example.
7249  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / High Risk Merchant Accounts on: March 23, 2012, 11:25:38 PM
High Risk Merchants Accounts are accounts that allow merchants to accept credit card as payment when the merchant does not qualify for a standard merchant account.

Business types that are prone to customer chargebacks, fraud, or have questionably legal practices or products will often be forced to use a high risk merchant account provider and end up paying a higher rate for payment card transactions.

Below is a list of business types that are generally considered as “high risk” merchants.

Bad Debt Services
- Debt Consolidation
- Credit Counseling
- Credit Restoration/Repair Agencies
- Collection Agencies
- Loan/Mortgage Modification Services
- Credit Card Rate Reduction Services
- Financial Coaching/Restoration (Consulting or Software)

Call Lines
- “Chat” and “Gossip” Lines
- Horoscopes and Fortune Telling (Includes retail locations)

Dating & Escort Services

Gambling
- Sweepstakes
- Sports Forecasting/Odds Making
- Lotteries
- Internet Gambling
- OTB (Off-Track Betting)(Generally excludes bingo, pickle cards & raffles for charitable purposes; i.e. Legit charities

Merchants Whose Product/Service May be Illegal
- Age-Restricted Products (i.e. alcohol sold via MOTO/Ecommerce without proper means of age verification)
- Tobacco Products sold via MOTO/Ecommerce
- Prescription Medications sold via MOTO/Ecommerce
- Medical Marijuana
- E Cigarettes
- Illegal synthetic marijuana supplements or “Teas”
- Paraphernalia Stores (either retail or moto) where over 50% of merchandise is for illegal purpose (water pipes, bongs, etc.)

Money Service Businesses
- Currency Dealer or Money Exchanger
- Check Cashing Services
- Dealer, Seller or Redeemer of Traveler’s Checks, Money Orders, or Stored Value Instruments
- Money Transmitter
- Any Organization Diverting Money out of the U.S.

Sexually Oriented and Pornographic Businesses, Materials/Services
- Adult Telephone Conversations/Audio Text (900 Numbers)
- Adult Book and Video Stores
- Adult Novelties
- Adult At-Home Parties (i.e. Passion Parties)
- Gentlemen’s Clubs
- Massage Parlors
- Male/Female “Enhancement” Supplements

Travel
- Airlines
- Charter Services
- Tour Operators
- Travel Agents and Brokers
- Time Shares and Time Share Related Businesses
- Travel-related Membership Clubs
- Cruise Lines
- Vacation Planners

Other Merchants Types
- Bail Bonds
- Firearms
- Infomercials
- Multi-Level Marketing (MLM)
- Merchants Offering an Extended Product Warranty/Guaranty or Service Plans
- “Opportunity Merchants” using a “free/discounted trial period” / “pay for shipping only” model
- Online supplements or nutraceutical businesses using a “free/discounted trial period” / “pay for shipping only” model

------------------------------------------------

The above list is from:
 - http://www.cardpaymentoptions.com/credit-card-processing/high-risk-merchant-accounts

Because a merchant can begin accepting bitcoin in a matter of seconds (rather than having to apply with a payment card processor, and then wait), it would seem to be a valuable tool for a business startup that is of one of the types of merchants in the list above.

Even existing merchants would benefit from adding Bitcoin as a type of payment method they accept due to the difference in fees.   Hgh Risk merchant accounts can be in the 8% to 10% fee range, or higher even.   With bitcoin, the merchant receiving payment loses nothing on the transaction fees, and converting to USDs is under 1%.  And then the bitcoin payments are non-reversible -- a significant savings there alone.

For a merchant in the travel category, for example, it would seem that bitcoin would bring significant benefits.  The nature of the business is:
 - High dollar amount transactions ($500 to $1,500 for an airline ticket alone).  
 - Price sensitive (Travelers shop around seeking a deal)
 - Repeat customers (important, so you don't have to explain what Bitcoin is / how to use it).  
 - Online (can serve customers located anywhere, rather than having to draw just from a small collection of local customers who might be Bitcoiners)

One of the few options we currently have for travel are the gift cards from Spend Bitcoins good towards Southwest Air tickets:
 - http://www.SpendBitcoins.com

Yankee is offering airfare and hotel discounts:
 - http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=69090.0

Are there any other categories from above where Bitcoin really should be finding traction as a replacement for (or complement to) high risk merchant accounts?
7250  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Use Case - Bitcoin intl money transfers on: March 23, 2012, 10:16:26 PM
Africa has more mobile phones than homes with electricity. Towns and villages provide public phone charging stations!

Interesting.  Vouchers for fertilizer will be issued to farmers in Nigeria via mobile.
 - http://allafrica.com/stories/201202140981.html
7251  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Would you be intrested in a bamt setup guide? on: March 23, 2012, 09:09:22 PM
Bookend for this post ... your guide:
 - http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=73650.0
7252  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: US citizens, do you pay taxes on bitcoin exchange? on: March 23, 2012, 09:01:49 PM
Related:
 - http://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Tax_compliance
7253  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Why Bitcoinica is Good For Bitcoin, You Can Be Short BTC on: March 23, 2012, 07:08:50 PM
Are there any other ways to be effectively short BTC?

You can sell call options.

There is #bitcoin-otc marketplace in which you might find a counterparty:
 - http://wiki.bitcoin-otc.com/wiki/Option_orders

And there is MPOE:
 - http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=67302.0
7254  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: WTB Eve Online PLEX on: March 23, 2012, 08:39:12 AM
i am looking to buy a PLEX for Eve Online preferably as an ingame item if possible

You might wish to PM gabi:
 - http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=23132
7255  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [ANN] bitaddress.org Safe JavaScript Bitcoin address/private key [BOUNTY 0.1BTC] on: March 23, 2012, 07:46:19 AM

I can verify that the site has been updated and returns the same HTML from the latest commit (e58a86a2fad0e9ac4c9530abd1035a71abbbcce7) in github.

To confirm this I first check the sha1sum hash of the html returned by a request to http://bitaddress.org:

$ wget --quiet -O - http://bitaddress.org|sha1sum
f2e410251c8741ac65d29a1c6fb8ef6919b6ab8b  -

Then from my bitaddress.org repo:

$ git rev-list --max-count=1 HEAD
e58a86a2fad0e9ac4c9530abd1035a71abbbcce7

$ sha1sum bitaddress.org.html
f2e410251c8741ac65d29a1c6fb8ef6919b6ab8b  bitaddress.org.html
7256  Economy / Gambling / Re: StrikeSapphire - Handing out 5 BTC every weekend. on: March 23, 2012, 01:34:35 AM
I have an anti-authoritarian streak a mile wide. I once fired a potato at 250mph from a home-built cannon and took out the first speed camera in LA. I was 17.

And now the cameras have been turned off.  Who knew the way to beat an unjust system was to simply ignore it as if it didn't even exist.  [About a year ago the cameras were turned off because there were nearly 200,000 tickets that went unpaid which caused the scheme to become unprofitable to operate.]

And Glendale just turned theirs off also:
 - http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2012/03/glendale-gives-up-on-red-light-cameras-wont-enforce-tickets.html
7257  Local / Suche / Re: Suche BTC - biete Paysafecards on: March 23, 2012, 12:41:52 AM
jemand mit ner vernünftigen Rate hier?

I believe there is demand for PokerStars $s.  I don't know if PaysafeCard EUR can [apparently] be deposited just like PSC USD so that might be one way of offloading them.

 - http://www.pokerdepositoptions.com/paysafecard-poker
7258  Economy / Gambling / Re: *[~BITLOTTO~]* April 4 draw past 90 BTC! on: March 23, 2012, 12:21:06 AM
BitLotto just started an affiliate program for webmasters who want to sell BitLotto tickets.
http://www.bitlotto.com/affiliate.html

Could that URL be aliased?  e.g.,  so that /affiliate  instead of the full /affiliate.html is necessary?
7259  Economy / Gambling / Re: *[~BITLOTTO~]* April 4 draw past 90 BTC! on: March 22, 2012, 11:45:05 PM
This will help BitLotto grow to the next level! It will also help make BitLotto more decentralized in true Bitcoin spirit

But with this method tickets are then purchased by payment to a different address.  How can it be known how many tickets are purchased?
7260  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: [BitInstant] Instantly Deposit Cash at 4 Different Banks into MtGox and TradeHil on: March 22, 2012, 10:58:16 PM
you'd be in violation of most exchanges rules.

Looking at Mt. Gox's terms of service, it doesn't say anything about funds deposited must be used for trading purposes.

 - http://mtgox.com/terms_of_service


it might be arguable whether this already counts as money laundering.

Money laundering is the process of concealing the source of illegally obtained money.
 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Money_laundering

I'm simply trying to get funds into my Dwolla account faster than their normal procedure takes.
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