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6541  Economy / Economics / Re: Fire in the market: Bitcoin is below $4000 on: December 01, 2018, 02:08:44 AM
You almost panic there. What else would it be to those who saw it went down to $5k and have weaker hands?
They already did what you could have done now. I say it is like a landslide of small investors.
One goes down and the other did making a large avalanche that dumps the bitcoin price.
We cannot just blame it to the whales. Those who followed them also contributed a big part to all of this.
6542  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: How to get back invested money from ICO ? on: November 30, 2018, 07:50:24 PM
It is like gambling without even playing any game. You just put your money in them. More like stocks.

If you are going to sue them then you might need a strong documentation of why, how and what reason are you targetting for them to pay back what you have loss.

Most of them just files bankruptcy and Voila there is no need to pay anyone. Better hurry before they find a better reason than what you will complain.
6543  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Open your eyes! on: November 30, 2018, 02:34:46 PM
Don't you feel like once the bitcoin price goes up, the main holders will be the banks and large financial institutions?

No. More of trading website owners will be.
We are selling it to them and they are the ones who are risking to wait now.
When this price pumps again they will be the one next in line to sell back to pay their employees and all the bills that had been stucked for months. Grin

Banks will just me the way but then again it will be sold again for they do not want to keep those online coins. They always want fiat in their hands.
6544  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2019 NBA Pre-Season on: November 30, 2018, 05:11:19 AM
That was some exciting game with GSW against the Toronto Raptors.

2nd unit game the Raptors a hard time to win the game. Even with their 18 point lead, GSW stepped up and tried to get back to the game.

Kevin Durant though, damn he is really a monster. Drake's expression though was funny. He was WOW'ed at what KD could do.

They got to overtime and the Toronto Raptors got the win. Iguodala made 2 major errors but it is okay, they did their best without Green and Curry.
6545  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Buy ideas, should not buy the price on: November 29, 2018, 07:54:31 AM
The basics of investing.

If you do not put so much thought about it then better leave the crypto space.
Here anything could happen. Some of them do not have the legal documents from their country but yet could run smoothly and they get the legality afterwards.

As long as the team behind it is legitimate then it wont be that scary. Also look at the marketing team. They should be perfect to insure a better market once they planted their ICO. Mostly they suffer from this. They begun to stop having the market after the ICO. It must not be that way.
6546  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: ONLY A FEW PEOPLE WITH THE MOST BITCOIN CONTROL THE MARKET on: November 29, 2018, 05:07:57 AM
I believe the crypto market, is heavily manipulated, I'm of the opinion that only a few very powerful people or government, now HODL the most Bitcoin, And are responsible for where the price goes and as a result the entire market is under choas. Is this even possible? I think it is, what's your own opinion?

Again with just the speculation being fed from nowhere.

We dont really know right? We only have guesses. But please do not seriously take those financial analysts that are really the ones responsible for the manipulation.

If most of the bitcoin believers will take those kind of speculations then it will be chaos.

Just like what is happening now. It aint about the technology anymore. Most of them are just trying to make money.
It gets me down seeing this thing happening with the great technology that was created or unfolded.
6547  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2019 NBA Pre-Season on: November 29, 2018, 02:07:10 AM
Once again, the cavaliers are terrible without Lebron James.  Put Lebron on any team and they instantly become a title contender.  His style of play can mesh with any player unlike Kobe.  It's funny that kobe was considered a ballhog that only plays for himself because Lebron James actually has a higher career scoring average.  (27 ppg)

Somehow I think of Lebron as a leader and that is why he can drag this players up to the Finals.
Giving people courage and confidence is not a skill, it is like an inner ability that cannot be trained by any trainors.

This is also one of the reasons why people are bashing him to be just the coach of Cleveland before because he is like that.
Leadership. Once you master it and know how to give confidence to others could really pull them to a higher level.
6548  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Will BTC and the Alts be easier to manipulate now on: November 28, 2018, 03:07:36 PM
I am more scared if the rich people will just be the one to handle it.
Better for them to sell it now and then go away.
If the whales did this then good. If it is a group of small investors then it might be just okay.

I still prefer differenr individual holding it. Maybe 2 bitcoim per person will give a lot of of difference instead of just 10 with thousands of btc in their hands.

Yes it could be manipulated if you have the right amount of money.
6549  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin is worst investment ever on: November 28, 2018, 11:10:07 AM
i bought bitcoin when it was for $14 k
now it's less than $4k. i lost +10k per one bitcoin.

Bitcoin is worst investment ever i could imagine.

Lol. This was funny.
This is one example of those investor who wants a rush profit in just a month or a 2.
Please, other users here do not be like this kind.

Before you invest, think about it. Read carefully about what you are stepping into, it may be a trap.
Also, this kind of people are the victims of those scam ICO projects for they dont read anymore and just believe the hype.
6550  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2019 NBA Pre-Season on: November 28, 2018, 05:46:37 AM
Whatever will happen to the Spurs this season, even they will finished a worst record, will not reached playoffs for the first time in several years or something like that, trading Kawhi is the best move they have done. There is no reason for Kawhi to stay at the Spurs vicinity because of his "own" agenda and it will surely affect the team.

Obviously Spurs today is not the "Spurs" that fans used to watched on but we can't just closed the book about what will be their stand this season. This is just DeRozan's first phase of his journey as a Spurs and who knows they have plans currently discussed on the table.

Anyways their recent game against the Chicago Bulls is intense especially at the last minute. They able to snatch a win by 1 point lead.

Yeah let us not end it just because they have started slow.
DeRozan might have been problem changing his gameplag since he needs to restart all over again.

Intense. Yeah I have seen this guyd always play at their best. They give their fans the best show ever in every game.

Dont want to dissect them for now for they could spark anytime. I dont want to eat my own words afterwards.
They are a good line up. Might not be the best but they could change the tide any time.
6551  Economy / Economics / Re: why bitcoin price fall down? on: November 27, 2018, 11:12:19 PM
what do you think about it? my prediction is bitcoin price will be back to $1000/btc in next 5 months or less. since oil price was fall down now and trade war between US and china. give your opinion pls

It is not connected. They have a different kind of market.
Are you saying that investors in bitcoin are also investors of oil? I dont think so.

In my own opinion it could be a huge seller and then a panic.
Once somebody sees a movement like 500 usd down then some are already shaking and would ride that boat.
Making it dump more instead of just a $500 down.

You cannot stop it. There is no control within the market of crypto currencies. Anyone can sell anytime they want specially when they needed the money. Although bitcoin is already a currency, some still think of it as just an investment or a commodity which is the main problem.
If only merchants are accepting it then they would not need to convert to USD just so they could buy goods.
6552  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What is the best trading platform? on: November 27, 2018, 02:06:43 PM
Best for me is a dex so Idex is what I prefer if you are going for tokens to ETH and vice versa.

On the other hand, if it will be centralized then I would prefer Binance. User friendly application and you wont get lost with it.
Also fast customer service with a variety of listed coins that you would like.
Just be careful for many of this coins also are being played with bots.
I do prefer manual trading.
6553  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: An International Summit of Cryptocurrencies on North Korea to be held in 2019. on: November 27, 2018, 01:13:50 PM
I dont know what to think about this.
But I find it as a bad thing rather than good.
We know how North Korea had been running their government and their restrictions are way too much. Also, it is like they control everything there.

In a different kind of view though it will a good usage if it will just be for their country. Why make a summit for it. Let it stay with the meeting from their officials on their own country. Besides, they dont really care what others will say.
6554  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: New Beginning and a Bright Future on: November 27, 2018, 10:47:02 AM
I believe the dump in the price of cryptocurrencies will not exceed this year. No matter how dip the fall is, we will definitely have a surge in price and soar high  in near future.
This is an opportunity for bounty participants, even for those who are coming in newly to work now, like they are just starting allover, because after this dip will come a pump and it is most likely going to come when you least expected.
Keep up the spirit as it were during the early years of bounty. You will definitely be glad you are still in the system.

It aint bad to have high hopes in crypto currencies but you must also face the truth.
I am not saying you give up but just swallow it and take this as a good opporunity to buy more.
We cannot just stay on holding and let the marker do its job. We also have to move.
Take out the non sense and not support them. Support the legitimate ones and give them more value.
6555  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2019 NBA Pre-Season on: November 27, 2018, 06:00:55 AM
I am not gonna lie I was one of those people who said San Antonio Spurs will be better this year thanks to the trade but apparently I was wrong as well. Of course, we are still early in the season and there are still a lot of games to be played but they do not look better after the trade.

I believed they would be much better because they traded Kawhi who played only 9 games last year and got Derozan who is a star in return, considering a 9 game Kawhi wouldn't make a difference compared to a star that will play a lot of games I believed they will be much better this year.

However, Derozan is basically playing all by himself this year, Lamarcus is good one game and bad another and incredibly inconsistent, Rudy gay scores a lot one game and sucks another game, Dante Cunningham is not a starter caliber player at all and all the injuries they have really crippled them. They were suppose to be really good this year after they got rid of a locker room trouble but not doing as well as hoped.

They are exploding for some time but it goes of for a lot of times too. That is the problem.
I think they are still not synchronized. They might need more time. It is like they are still smelling DeRozan but actually that is how he play even when he is in Toronto. They need to change that.

Pops have a different kind of play and I think he knows what is happening and what is needed to change or if he needs a new player to fill the blank.
6556  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: To-do list in a bear market on: November 26, 2018, 04:35:36 PM
'Do not panic' - when it comes to anything bear-related.
'It creates opportunities' - but first-time investors may become concerned when prices begin falling drastically

Any tips to offer people new to cryptocurrency?

Look at the history.
That is what I always say instead of explaining everything to them.
I dont want them blaming me for I have been the one to push them. Better to just let them do the decision and let them look at what happened before and summarize it.

One problem with being a human. You always look for someone to blame it to, even if you are the one who really made the choice.
6557  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: HOPE FOR SHIT COIN on: November 26, 2018, 03:38:06 PM
Hello

Please i want make a quick inquire please. can there be any possible hope a shit coin to come back alive. i participated on an ICO that are responsible for reinventing dead coins. the project is known as coin janitor. they believed that there are tokens that are good but was closed down due some factors like market dump or no finance which lead to the demise of the token.
Could there be any means by which a dead coin can be resurrected again ?

Forget about it.
Been there. A victim of a pumped coin and BS in the chatbox and I got dragged by it.
Yobit?

There is no getting it back. They make a few bucks and they run away. Then, they will do it over and over again into every dead altcoin out there. It looks like different people investing in, but that could just be one or a group of people in one room. Get over it.
6558  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Don't Lose Hope Just Yet on: November 26, 2018, 02:28:05 PM
You will have to consider on how many holders are now and how many traders playing with the price. That is history my friend and its way far from now.

They became wise making profit from the dump and pump. Before it is just faith because of the lack of exchange.
That is one more to consider again. The number of exchange, also those who are hacked and scam.
6559  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2019 NBA Pre-Season on: November 26, 2018, 01:32:56 PM
It was fun to watch the Portland Blazers but again they lose against the Clippers.

The 2nd unit though at the first half giving their all and getting the lead for the team.
They got a lot of future ahead for they are still young.


I am so glad about Doncic because before the year started I have always said a 19 year old kid who became the euro league MVP should be considered at number 1 in the draft no matter what but Suns did the most idiotic thing ever. I can't understand how Doncic dropped as low as 5th spot knowing full on well that he was a star in the making. Dude is averaging 20 points as a rookie and has 6-7 rebounds per game with some assist. He will be a superstar like Dirk was in 5 or so years.

I prefer more like Kevin Love or Kevin Garnet. A small forward or a power forward only. Dont want to be lining him up with the big men or centers.

He should stay focus on his outside shooting and then rebounds on defense.
6560  Economy / Speculation / Re: Who here brought @ $20K? on: November 25, 2018, 06:23:08 PM
Not me but I got out at $18k because fees hitting $55 a pop per transaction was a sure sign to me that the currency and the software
team behind BTC could not be trusted and as you know that price has been dropping ever since.

Tell me how do you value trust in digital terms

My Ripple has gone down just as fast but the thing is that I still trust them unless they do something that is not written on the box like
installing ransomware on my machine or claiming that someone caught me "Tugging" as I was watching porn and now wants blackmail money from me
paid in XPR because that's happening all the time with Bitcoin but lets pretend that it's being used for real transactions (apart from buying weed) if it makes
people around here feels better.



It is nice to create stories most of the time. Better post it in off topic section because we dont have Funny and Jokes secrtion here. But thank you I did laugh a bit.

Now let us go back to the topic.
I dont think there is much users who bought at 20k for a lot are just waiting and it didnt took long there. It is just like a matter of hours and suddenly it falls bit by bit every minute.
If you are worrying about them, then better not. They may not be foolish to sell at a losing side. It will be worth the wait itf it will bounce back once again. Do not believe too much speculations.
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