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661  Other / Meta / Re: Trust flags on: June 13, 2019, 07:51:54 AM
We're use to seeing RED warning below the user profile in threads where they participated. Now we have to look into their trust to check if a user has the credibility before making transaction.

It takes 1 minute only. To check the profile. I opened a new thread about this.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5153576.msg51442422#msg51442422
662  Other / Meta / Re: Trust flags on: June 13, 2019, 05:44:02 AM
I will keep pushing for your blacklisting

Dude, believe me, for you it's very important to be calm. Because people with schizophrenia can sometimes act on suicidal thoughts impulsively. I'm very worried about you.
663  Other / Meta / Re: Trust flags on: June 13, 2019, 05:27:06 AM
That is a page of lies and bullshit from a bunch of scammers and their supporters like you.

Yes all DT members that left that feedbacks are bunch of scammers. Sure... Listen, why don't you visit a doctor and tell him that seeing this page makes you nervous https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=2580400  Grin

Schizophrenia causes many symptoms, including:

Delusions (believing things that aren’t true)

Hallucinations (seeing or hearing things that aren’t there)

 Grin
664  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: IMPORTANT UPDATE FOR BEGINNERS AND NEWBIES. on: June 13, 2019, 05:19:17 AM

Maybe we could help spread or prevent scam by posting on threads made/commented by those suspicious accounts, just in case some members don't make an account and there's no flag yet on those suspicious users. This might be covered by the first changes unless the user who tags the account is not in DT list (cmiiw).

Of course, we should start flags too.

Not DT member can start a flag too. But it want be visible and will be burred very deep.
665  Other / Meta / Re: Trust flags on: June 13, 2019, 05:10:15 AM
Can you present the instance where you see us scamming people out of money exactly or been remotely connected in anyway to dealing with other peoples money ever?

Instance ? Wait.. Uh... Whaaat ? Whaaat ? Is this your feedback page ? Jesus.. This must me a mistake... Grin

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=2580400
666  Other / Meta / Re: Trust flags on: June 13, 2019, 05:01:44 AM
The system is not bad. Let us wait for a month or so, and we will see the actual results of this new implementation. I guess people are more concerned about the color of a negative trust score  Grin Just change it to red and everyone will be satisfied. I never saw a danger warning sign in orange color. Why are they orange Theymos ? Is it your favorite color ?
667  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: IMPORTANT UPDATE FOR BEGINNERS AND NEWBIES. on: June 13, 2019, 04:48:47 AM
More updates from Theymos : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5153344.msg51448285#msg51448285
668  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: IMPORTANT UPDATE FOR BEGINNERS AND NEWBIES. on: June 12, 2019, 05:24:33 PM
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I figure the orange colour is intended to mean "warning" as opposed to a red colour which would imply "avoid". Since the negative trust counter is just that (a counter), and cannot take into account the actual reasons left behind, then orange seems appropriate as a warning, and it is down to each of us to go into the trust page of a given profile and read through the Trusted/Untrusted feedback + Active/Inactive flags to get a proper understanding of the numbers on a case by case basis.

The example you’ve provided is well known on the Forum, but asserting he is a scammer is not, as far as I know, correct. His profile's feedback provides information that does not imply the account being a scammer, whether we like the user or not. The new system would vouch from now on for a red trust flag to be used if this were to be a fact, with the necessary support.

Nevertheless, it is good that you mentioned here that the trust system has changed quite a bit today, as most people do not visit Meta, and therefore miss out this type of information concerning forum updates. I've just read through the, so far, 11 pages of posts on the core thread, and still need to grasp a few user case scenarios that are not completely clear yet.


You are right ! Accusing of scamming based only on feedbacks from DT members might be not correct. That's why I added a word "Potential" It means that people with such profiles are "Potential scammers" In the last sentence this word was missing and I added it.  Thanks for a merit. Unfortunately I'm out of them and can't merit you back.
669  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: IMPORTANT UPDATE FOR BEGINNERS AND NEWBIES. on: June 12, 2019, 04:55:17 PM
Ideally there shouldn't be a case of "i don't like this new system" becasue, it was just implemented some hours ago and we all should give it sometime to understand the system. Theymos has done the needful and we must commend him for this change and not be sabotaging the system.

Basically, Newbies quiet understand the difference between Positive(+) and Negative(-), and the Orange goes with the Negative(-); meaning that, there's a problem with such profile and opening the account profile give the written letters in RED, and he/she will not trade with such user or if he/she will do; he/she will be more extremely careful.

Even I did not understand correctly the meaning of orange numbers in trust scores before reading the explanation. So I'm quite sure, that this information will be useful for newbies.
670  Other / Meta / Re: Trust flags on: June 12, 2019, 04:26:26 PM
YOU FAILED


Sorry dude, I forgot to add a typical scammers profile example. Edited. Now you are a super celeb.


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5153576.msg51442422#msg51442422






671  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: IMPORTANT UPDATE FOR BEGINNERS AND NEWBIES. on: June 12, 2019, 04:23:27 PM
I didn´t like this new system very much....

A yellow color like this looks much more like a neutral trust than a negative trust. This Color should be bold red.

That's why I opened this new thread. Because the orange color can mislead newbies.
672  Other / Meta / Re: Trust flags on: June 12, 2019, 03:29:54 PM
Have another try fool.

Now you are a celebrity. The screenshots from your profile are posted in the warning thread for beginners.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5153576.msg51442422#msg51442422
673  Other / Beginners & Help / IMPORTANT UPDATE FOR BEGINNERS AND NEWBIES. on: June 12, 2019, 03:24:55 PM
Hello.

Due to new trust system, that was implemented today, be very careful if you are buying or selling anything. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5153344.0 Potential scammers profiles do not show red trust ratings any more. Because of this, before making any deal, please visit the person's profile. If this person is a potential scammer, instead of red tags you will see the orange marks like this.  


You can clearly see orange colored trust score -16 in this profile. After that press the button Trust You will see red colored feedbacks like this:



More orange numbers means more negative trust. Same with feedbacks.

Here you can see how the potential scammers profile looks like:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2580400

DO TOT BUY OR SELL ANYTHING FROM PEOPLE WITH SUCH PROFILES. THERE IS A BIG POSSIBILITY THAT YOU WILL BE SCAMMED.
674  Other / Meta / Re: Trust flags on: June 12, 2019, 02:44:11 PM
A new user logging on is going to need a 4yr college degree to  figure out what all the =+#-1=2 mean.  I REALLY think this has been overthought and overly complicated especially for someone just logging in to buy a fake gift card from a scammer who they found on Google. Cheesy  IMO only (no personal offense intended to anyone) I think this is a mistake.  The ONLY people who will benefit from this are the scammers.

You nailed it!
675  Other / Meta / Re: Trust flags on: June 12, 2019, 02:04:54 PM
Now this thread will be used by potential scammers who were tagged by Kitty, to attack Lauda and celebrate.

^^ probably laudas alt ^^^

who has ever heard of this nothing poster before. Just randomly shows up munching ass.

LFC is that you?

Hey moronpigsnoz do you not understand that the flag system is not pushing for a fair and transparent system? where only REAL scammers can be flagged?

You don't want a transparent and fair system? you want to keep retain a system where PROVEN and VERIFIABLE liars and scammers like lauda you kitty kat master can still brand those that whistle blow on him as scammers?

Yep plenty of bottles of cristal are going to pop tonight I'm sure. Even more when your favorite kitty cat gets black listed. Meow.

Scammers like you always seeing things. For you, everyone is Laudas alt. Do not forget that we still have a "Scam Accusation" thread. So all I can advise you, is to go and fuck yourself with the bottle of "crystal" during your celebration.
676  Other / Meta / Re: Trust flags on: June 12, 2019, 01:49:54 PM
Now this thread will be used by potential scammers who were tagged by Kitty, to attack Lauda and celebrate.
677  Other / Meta / Re: Trust flags on: June 12, 2019, 01:40:57 PM
The warning above threads started by such users is also gone. Those two things combined make them worthless.

Scammers heaven..
678  Other / Meta / Re: Trust flags on: June 12, 2019, 01:34:21 PM
The trust system still works and only people in your trust network (DT by default) will count as supporters or opponents.

OK. Got it. But support button is active for me and I'm not DT member.
679  Other / Meta / Re: Trust flags on: June 12, 2019, 01:31:05 PM
A newbie-warning flag is active if there are more people supporting such a flag than opposing it.

Does that mean that a newbie with a lot of alts (There are a lot of them here) can red flag you and destroy you profile? In that case you must search for a bunch of opposers to clear it. Please correct me if I'm wrong
You will need support or oppose from DT members if I get the idea correct.

DT members are not mentioned in Theymos post. It is written "A newbie-warning flag is active if there are more people supporting such a flag than opposing it."
680  Other / Meta / Re: Trust flags on: June 12, 2019, 01:23:40 PM
A newbie-warning flag is active if there are more people supporting such a flag than opposing it.

Does that mean that a newbie with a lot of alts (There are a lot of them here) can red flag you and destroy you profile? In that case you must search for a bunch of opposers to clear it. Please correct me if I'm wrong
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