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661  Economy / Economics / Re: The Internet is Changing the Very Definition of Money on: June 09, 2015, 06:23:59 AM
Our current money was never designed with the internet in mind. We are dealing with deprecated forms of money in the modern internet era, this is why Bitcoin is the objective superior way to move and store value. Those that get it now, will reap the benefits later, this is pure physics.

Bitcoin may be superior to our current money, but will that be sufficient to succeed? Money evolves - we have had the gold standard, Bretton Woods system, floating exchange rate, etc. Bitcoin may be the flavour of today, but we can't be sure it will stay that way.

There's only one way to find out... wait and see. I don't personally think a new coin will come and dethrone Bitcoin, it's network effect is way too powerful. What could potentially happen is the abolition of cash and all transactions done digitally, either in the old way or with a government issued digital currency to compete against Bitcoin, to keep their fiat scam going.

If the government issued a digital currency, they would still control the money supply, and in a way, that is what the government does today.  Most transactions are done digitally.  The unique characteristic of Bitcoin would be that the supply is static right?
662  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Time to pack it up on: June 09, 2015, 01:46:48 AM
I don't think it's a big surprise that Mastercard would take a stance against Bitcoin.  It fits the normal corporate model to reject something new out of fear of losing existing business.  Adopting a model with cheaper transactions would cannibalize some of the revenues they currently make.
663  Economy / Economics / Re: Government & Bitcoin on: June 08, 2015, 05:15:28 PM

I agree, but what's the point that you would say to us? I couldn't find any link between religion with taxes.

There are a lot of links between religion and law.  For example, the only reason that there is an issue with abortion or gay marriage is because those laws came from Christianity.  Catholic schools are also publicly funded and religious organizations are tax exempt.

Okay it has a connection between them. But, I think abortion is not only religion issue, but also humanity. And imo every organization should pay the tax, even at lower rates to religious and humanity organizations.

I believe the side that argues that there should not be a choice for abortion is largely religious, and Catholic in particular.  Because one group of people believe that it is wrong, does that mean someone that doesn't think it's wrong should have to follow the same rule?  For example, if a 15 year old gets pregnant and lives in a trailer, and doesn't have the resources to raise a child, should she be forced to have the child and take care of him/her?  Doesn't make sense.

Don't want to take this too far off topic, but there is a difference between morally sound behaviour and sin.  Some sins have become illegal even though they are morally sound, and that is because of large groups of religious voters.
664  Economy / Economics / Re: Government & Bitcoin on: June 08, 2015, 03:31:48 PM

I agree, but what's the point that you would say to us? I couldn't find any link between religion with taxes.

There are a lot of links between religion and law.  For example, the only reason that there is an issue with abortion or gay marriage is because those laws came from Christianity.  Catholic schools are also publicly funded and religious organizations are tax exempt.
665  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Your perception of INDIA in ONE word... GO!! on: June 08, 2015, 04:04:50 AM
Polarized.

There seems to be a large gap between extreme wealth and extreme poverty.  I did enjoy traveling through parts of India and it is a special place to me.
666  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Will Your Job Be Done By A Machine? on: June 03, 2015, 04:55:21 PM
I don't think so.
I work in customer service, every day talking to customers and I am sure that when people wants to resolve their problems, they have desire to speak to another man and not a machine.
I don't think this will ever change.
Maybe machines can replace humans in very heavy physical work in mines and factories but again people will have to monitor machines.
So, I don't think that my job can be dome by a machine, no way.

I think that when people want to have their problems solved, they just want to have it solved in as little time as possible, without having to wait for extended periods of time, and without having to call back in.

Customer service in the form of chat is becoming more popular as the wait times are far less, and you don't have to deal with an IVR or transfers.  I'm sure a small part of customer service requires dynamic problem solving, but the bulk of it is a step by step process, which could be automated without too much trouble.
667  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Will Your Job Be Done By A Machine? on: June 03, 2015, 04:40:57 PM

My job is a series of decisions and interactions/negotiation/communication with other people.  It can be done by a machine if the interaction is no longer necessary, meaning if the interactions are done with other machines.  I think it'll be a long time before that happens though.

A lot of job types can already be automated. Or it will be possible very soon to do so. Even some creative work may be affected. Someone posted this video in another thread: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Pq-S557XQU

Interesting video.  I think it really depends on when the technology will be cheap enough to hit the mainstream.  If most companies are making decisions from a profitability perspective, then when it makes sense financially, costs will be reduced significantly to the point that it may be difficult to compete without automation if the rest are doing it.
668  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Will Your Job Be Done By A Machine? on: June 03, 2015, 04:30:49 AM
My job is a series of decisions and interactions/negotiation/communication with other people.  It can be done by a machine if the interaction is no longer necessary, meaning if the interactions are done with other machines.  I think it'll be a long time before that happens though.
669  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: how much can you make weekly? on: June 02, 2015, 02:36:06 AM
Thats a lot of waste time on a faucet though.

Wouldnt it just make sense to get a normal job, and not worry about this nonsense, also another factor is if the faucet even consistently pay sout.

Because it's on the internet it has the illusion of 'free' money even though it values the average person's time at about 0.005c an hour.

It seems an awful lot of people have a bit of a disconnect going on when actually thinking it through.

Agreed.  Other than kids who are not legally permitted to work, it really is a terrible wage.  When I was <16 years old though, it's probably something I would have done for awhile, especially when bored.
670  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: how much can you make weekly? on: June 01, 2015, 04:21:35 PM
$1 per hour? JA!

I recommend you to go out there find a Job, save some money, find out what people around you needs: clothes, food, puppet accesories. Buy a good stock and start your own Bussines... Repeat, Grow, Repeat, Grow. And never stop finding more needs/products for sell or people as costumers..

I guess if he can find that amount like $1 per hour that is a great thing and he doesnt need to find any job may be this can be his passive income. Let

say that he do that 12 hour per day. In one day he could get $12 and in one week he could get $84 and one month he could get $336. That is a good

point with that. But I think that must be boring since he will sitting there 12 hours clicking captcha.

How is $1/hour a good thing?  It's not passive income because he is needing to do work for it.  Passive income is where you don't really need to invest your own time for the income you receive.

It depends on where he lives and what his expenses are like, but there must be better options available than $1/hour for a job that isn't even enjoyable.
671  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it better to save money or invest it? on: June 01, 2015, 03:23:18 PM
Also, interest rates pay nothing. Unless you are already rich and inherited, I don't see how leaving all of your stuff on the bank is going to benefit you more than it does benefit the bank. While you make peanuts off interest, rich guys can live off bank interest only even if they are single figure %, only because they have so much that it creates a solid passive income.

The rich guys are bank owners themselves. It doesn't make much sense to live off a bank interest when you can establish the bank yourself and live off a loan interest...


Exactly why should we be dependent on bank if we have our own bank and no one can access your bitcoin account nobody would come to know that how much do u have in your wallet. So it is better to invest in bitcoin rather then keep money in banks.

Invest in bitcoin half of your money is good but you really do need bank too for your fiat. I dont think you would convert all of your fiat to bitcoin right? What are you gonna do without any fiat? How to pay your bills? You can't use your bitcoin to pay your bills, they wont accepted it anyway so you need bank at least to convert your bitcoin back and then you can do your things with fiat

Half of your money in Bitcoin?  That's still a pretty large investment in something so speculative and volatile.  There is no rate of return on holding Bitcoin other than speculating that the exchange rate will move in your favour.  It would be cool if one day there were financial investments within Bitcoin that do offer a rate of return in the form of interest, coupons, dividends, etc.  That would also increase the demand for Bitcoin.
672  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BTC in your country on: June 01, 2015, 03:15:00 PM
BTC have only banking systems not still have properly very much available still. For available everywhere need a lot of marketing and take time for properly as usual. I have very much hope and trust on BTC Whole administration and technology team whom great works today BTC is very well stabilise everywhere maximum position in the business and economical systems. Its very much possible and very much quick to whole world's will be biggest and valuable BTC currency will use.

There will be no currency as BTC if government never support bitcoin although bitcoin is in a stable and all of the technology support it, there will be nothing if no one support it. And what I scare if bitcoin is stable enough and caught the attention of government, they will take action what to do with bitcoin, we never know what will happen in the future

Are you talking about Bitcoin as a national currency?  I agree that is very unlikely to happen.
But I think that along with many other things, anything can succeed without government support.  All online piracy continues without government support.  All drug trafficking around the world also continues against government policy.  To legitimize Bitcoin and have it as a payment option for all purchases and taxes is another story, but people are still free to use it as long as there are people willing to accept it.
673  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BTC in your country on: May 21, 2015, 04:24:16 AM
I live in Canada, and aside from a couple friends, I don't know anyone that knows about or cares about bitcoin.  I also haven't seen any retailers accepting it.
674  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it better to save money or invest it? on: May 21, 2015, 04:18:36 AM
Invest if you have a big principal, if not your goal should be getting it.

Theres a mixture of all points, but it needs to be getting that goal or else you`ll be working alot more then you should. As for the comments about splitting choices with real estate, gold, or any other forms of assets.

You should be making a passive amount from the start to acquire in those other areas, so it doesnt matter of which one to choose. 

I'm curious as to why the size of principal matters?

If you have the ability to generate consistent positive returns, then it makes sense to invest; and if you don't it doesn't make sense to invest - regardless of the size of the bank account.
675  Economy / Economics / Re: Government & Bitcoin on: May 19, 2015, 04:46:05 AM

What do you define as a criminal?  The government has made drugs illegal, so it has evolved into a worldwide black market with conflict resolution coming from violence.  It is government policy that has created the violence and "criminals" who are put into jail without having a victim.  Which wars would take place without government?

Criminals are those who conduct things outside of the law. It is a fact that most goverment are corrupt and of course the policy created more criminals because some people just cant stand to be ruled with the silly rules but ofcourse a country without a goverment will not be a better places than those with goverment


So if a criminal is defined as someone that breaks a law, then everyone is a criminal right?  But more importantly, what is the basis of the law?  Moral integrity?  No not really.  There are several crimes to which there is no victim, yet there is unusually harsh punishment.  So really that is just a law taking away civil liberty (gambling, consenting prostitution, illicit drugs, gay marriage) partly due to the lack of separation between church and state and partly because of the profit incentive.  At what point does civil liberty become priority vs. implementing restrictions to which there is no benefit?

Another problem is that the government creates laws and then polices or enforces the laws.  But who polices the police?

Countries with large, small or no government can all be good places to live.  If the government is benevolent, then it's good, but I don't see many realistic examples of that.  And in that case, smaller government is better.  No technological solutions, innovation or evolution (which are really the only solutions) comes from government.  It's the only place where you can be treated like shit and still have no choice but to do business with them.  I'm not saying that's always the case, but it is definitely the case sometimes.  Any private organization run like the government would go bankrupt.
676  Economy / Economics / Re: Government & Bitcoin on: May 18, 2015, 07:36:23 AM
I say keepz the government out of da cryptos all together. We don't need them. we don't want them. We are strong without them.

I think we can't live or our life will be ruined if theres no government to support us. Even if theres so many negatives ideas or things that government done, we need them to have a peaceful life and to have a leader to lead us in a great community.

Actually this isnt true, we CAN live & live a very happy life without much governance, just google about the Indus valley Civilization, it is believed that ancient culture was 'ruler less' as in there was no government, just a bunch of international PEACEFUL traders living & trading away.
If theres no government? who will caught to the criminals? who will protect us from terorist? who will construct the road? who will help us in state of calamity? Think about that ? who will?

What do you define as a criminal?  The government has made drugs illegal, so it has evolved into a worldwide black market with conflict resolution coming from violence.  It is government policy that has created the violence and "criminals" who are put into jail without having a victim.  Which wars would take place without government?

Private companies can construct roads (and do today).  Roads can be privately owned and charge a toll for anyone that uses it.

You should read on the spectrum of societies with different levels of government involvement from communism to socialism to minarchism and anarchy.  All of them can work given proper execution, however I don't expect proper execution from current governments.  I expect the bare minimum service with corruption and policies that benefit a select few over the greater population.  With that expectation, the less government you have, the better it is.
677  Economy / Economics / Re: Government & Bitcoin on: May 17, 2015, 04:44:31 PM
Without government support crypto currencies will in normal times ever be just a niche thing for nerds, techies and libertarians. You need the government regulation and acceptance to reach the mass and mainstream.

I say keepz the government out of da cryptos all together. We don't need them. we don't want them. We are strong without them.


No, it is for normal people. And no, there will never be government support, because there is nothing in bitcoin that is an advantage for the government.


Absolutely. Don't expect government to be so generous to the country. They are busy in making their own money and buying their own bread n butter. government will never support the bitcoin as a currency as they know it can be end of corruption if they adopts bitcoin

Government will start to adopt bitcoin when they getting the full control of this bitcoin so they will eat both of them and start to make a new regulation to a new bitcoin user and everything that they do is sure proftable to them rather than us

How would you go about getting "full control" of a decentralized currency?  Government has two tools when it comes controlling or manipulating an economy which is the monetary and fiscal policies.  Monetary policy being the interest rate and money supply, both of which don't apply to bitcoin.

Of all the fiat currencies available, all the government can do is market their own home brew and make you think that the thin air that is backing "our" currency is far superior to the thin air backing another currency.


They can use their power to all extents, by creating fear: If you use BTC at all, you'll go to jail. Even if it's technically nonsense because Bitcoin is effectively unstoppable, if the fear gets inside people's minds, they could stop supporting it and since people in general are scared of the government, they'll not break the law in order to keep BTC going, and they'll bite the bullet and keep supporting whatever scam government and the powers that be have on mind. So basically, it's on people's hand to keep BTC alive or to get keep getting fucked by the fiat (and in the future, e-fiat) scam.

In any case, there will always be people out there running BTC just like every other decentralized network, and specially BTC being the strongest ever, so underground or mainstream, BTC will never disappear and will be there for whoever wants to use it.

The government definitely has the power to discourage the use of bitcoin by implementing regulations, fees, penalties, etc.  However my response was to BTCevo and the government adopting and taking full control of bitcoin.
678  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin should outperform any investment long term wise on: May 17, 2015, 06:11:28 AM
We know that all the investment inevitably causes inflation in capital goods, this can be clearly observed on stock prices and house prices after added QE money supply

Although this kind of inflation does not count as inflation by CPI/PCE definition, it anyway indicated fiat money's reduced purchasing power against those capital goods: Same fiat money, now you can only buy one share while before you can buy 2 shares

However, bitcoin do not inflate as much. The increase of capital goods are caused by a large increase of fiat money supply, and the capital goods inflation as a result. But that will almost for sure cause their bitcoin price to drop (long term wise, currently bitcoin still have an inflation rate of more than 6%, that will be cut by half by next reward halving)

So, capital goods' value rises against fiat money (fiat money inflation), their value drops against bitcoin, thus bitcoin become the top performer in all investments

The reason for this is simple: Any capital goods, if you pour more fiat money into it, it will be produced in more quantity, thus reduce its value somewhat, but bitcoin's coin generation speed will not be affected by added fiat money supply, it is the most accurate measure of fiat money inflation


Does this assume that demand remains constant?  Change in the demand of bitcoin can influence its price incremental to any price movement from fiat expansion.

Currently, everyone values and accepts fiat currency, and pretty much anything can be purchased with fiat.  There are many people that do not value bitcoin, and would not accept bitcoin as a form of payment and I think that plays an important role in bitcoin's valuation.
679  Economy / Economics / Re: Government & Bitcoin on: May 16, 2015, 03:37:58 PM
Without government support crypto currencies will in normal times ever be just a niche thing for nerds, techies and libertarians. You need the government regulation and acceptance to reach the mass and mainstream.

I say keepz the government out of da cryptos all together. We don't need them. we don't want them. We are strong without them.


No, it is for normal people. And no, there will never be government support, because there is nothing in bitcoin that is an advantage for the government.


Absolutely. Don't expect government to be so generous to the country. They are busy in making their own money and buying their own bread n butter. government will never support the bitcoin as a currency as they know it can be end of corruption if they adopts bitcoin

Government will start to adopt bitcoin when they getting the full control of this bitcoin so they will eat both of them and start to make a new regulation to a new bitcoin user and everything that they do is sure proftable to them rather than us

How would you go about getting "full control" of a decentralized currency?  Government has two tools when it comes controlling or manipulating an economy which is the monetary and fiscal policies.  Monetary policy being the interest rate and money supply, both of which don't apply to bitcoin.

Of all the fiat currencies available, all the government can do is market their own home brew and make you think that the thin air that is backing "our" currency is far superior to the thin air backing another currency.
680  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it better to save money or invest it? on: May 15, 2015, 09:22:40 PM
Is it better to save money in bank or invest it online, in real estate or maybe gold?
if you can manage, half of your income could invest with a gold, cause gold is the first easy invest for new comer , but if you want to try, maybe the property not a wrong choice,(but for me, property is difficult cause you must know where you buy, the perfect location, rate every year of that estate, even rate always up)

Very True. Gold can be the one option to invest and there are assured returns in it but you to have patience as the prices of gold fluctuates everyday and so far real estate is concerned you need huge amount to invest in it as the land prices are climbing up and up so for an average person its not possible to invest in property or land.

Gold is always profitable investment. But my question is it really possible for an middle class person with very average salary can afford to invest in Gold as it requires good amount of capital in hand so i think his basic necessity is to take care of day to day expenses so saving is best option.

No investment is always profitable, and as someone that is currently experiencing negative returns on gold, I can say along with many others that gold is not always profitable.  I'd say it's a good alternative store of value, especially for those that have lost faith in fiat, but it's still very possible to have losses in gold.
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