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6681  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Traders; what do you look for on: September 05, 2017, 10:42:16 AM
Profit,Profit and Profit.
what else other than that ?
Nobody cares about their project and something like that,
all that we should know,how to get profit from this project and make a lot of money in every trade.
that's the mindset of every trader,and should be like that.
it's not charity my friend,hoping to get success by supporthing their project and others.
so whenever i do the trade i will always looking for the best profit from it.
and i hope i can double it in every trade that i make.

that is my honest opinion,i don't know about others.
everybody should be like that right when you're trading ?
 Roll Eyes
You are right that most traders would really aiming for profits and not minding on anything like on the project development or what but maybe they do engage on some news regarding on it but they are not really serious on it they are just accumulating news just to make decisions regarding on their coin holdings and assuming on where would prices go.Only a few trader would only mind up seriously on a certain project regarding on its usage but same as you believe most of them will always aim for profits.
Yes you are right. We can see a long list of the names that only focus on profits. They only need profits by hook or crook. Basically, the newcomers are more of them, reason is, and the shine of bright bucks cleanses their minds to just stick to the methods for getting extra dollars.
Newbies would definitely jump in for profits specially when they saw some traders that do earn big amounts then its normal for their minds to follow the same path too on which they would really decide to learn trading because they do like to earn profits like on those persons that they saw which are doing trading.This is really the main reason or view of people why they do really try to learn up.
6682  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The DEATH of Bitcoin Surfaces Again on: September 05, 2017, 10:14:34 AM


Is this the beginning of the death of Bitcoin? Well, the topic is now resurrecting again now that Bitcoin just experienced one of the biggest bloodbaths ever in its trading history. And this the trend right now for the whole cryptocurrency market...we are seeing waves of red all over.

No wonder the FUD community is now having a fiesta...they think that this can be the start of the end of the world...I mean the end of Bitcoin and that it can crashed soon towards the $100 price.

Are they kidding me?
FUDS are everywhere and those people who do always say that bitcoin would be dead this time.They are saying those things for how many years already, we did really see a dip but the price have somehow manage to recover as of now and we did see on those price range of 3900+ but eventually it rise up again and if you did make an active trade then for sure you are earning some bucks as of now.
6683  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: lost and struggle of trading. on: September 04, 2017, 01:42:05 PM
Is trading hard?
I want it to come from the people who actually trade who experience trading I myself just read from goggle and some websites. Please do share some experiences and lost of money and earnings.
What do you called this? struggles yeah thats its struggle of traders.
Theres no easy thing on making money besides on doing gambling.If we do talk about trading i would say this is really a hard thing to learn and it would really takes time and lots of mistakes and failures you would able to experience before you would able to learn from it. Trading is really good for long term since profits will really be possible on this field if you do already know on what you are doing.Struggles are normal,if you are persever enough these things doesnt really matter at all.
6684  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Good time to buy ETH now? on: September 04, 2017, 01:16:07 PM
much better to be ready to grab those cheap eth when downfalls continue to happen for sure a lots of things will comes out after this news more coins not only
eth but more of the coins inside the exchange will be in its dip, I will try to grab mine with 200$ and wait for the rebound, long wait big profits.
This is the wisest thing to do as of now on where we should really be worried too much on the price if it would dip since theres a news then it will normally go down.We should wait for the dip price and would wait to buy on the most sweet spot and then hold it for long because for sure price of ETH will definitely rebound later on same as you said.
6685  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin Can be $5,000 Again? on: September 04, 2017, 12:40:29 PM
bitcoin has broken the wall 5000 dollars? How do you know ? to my knowledge bitcoin has not broke the wall 5000 dollars bitcoin up to 4800 dollars the wall he solved years now bitcoin will only break the price of 5200 dollars
It didnt actually break 5000 dollars price as far as i remember it did only reach 4912 or more but didnt reach 5k which means theres really a strong resistance on that price and now the price did dip again and going back on 4200 price again and this is the time we should really watch out on bitcoins price and be alert on setting up buy orders. We wont know if the price would dip even more.
6686  Economy / Economics / Re: Moment for buying or selling? on: September 04, 2017, 11:51:13 AM
if seen in the current market movement I prefer to wait or it could be to buy, because it looks like the price will rise again so it's better to buy, but if you already have bitcoin better to wait because bitcoin prices will likely increase again.
Yes, It is the right time to hold onto your bitcoins because they are very much likely to touch 5 dollars before the end of this year. But if you want to grab bitcoins, I don’t suggest buying at the moment because you won’t be enjoying big profits at this time. Wait for a sufficient decrease in the values.
I would say this would be the best time to buy cheap bitcoins as of now because anytime soon we wont see this price again. $4300 is the recent price on which we would able to buy for now.It not necessary to buy whole bitcoin because it is really somehow expensive to do such thing.Moment for buying would really be as of now not only for short term trading but also for long term.
6687  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: China's Central Bank Declares ICO Illegal on: September 04, 2017, 10:57:58 AM
these chinese and korean markets are pretty much fake, this is when you all giving so much credit to coinmarketcap and he's making a killing.
these morons calling them self experts need to get their stupid head out of cow poops. korean and chinese market in this crypto world is very very small but their egos are pretty huge!
also the chinese can create and participate in any ICO freely all they need is a VPN


I dont think Chinese can participate ICO from now on. No bank is allowed to provide service for those who are involveed  in ICO market.
If they do impose new law or announce/declare that illegal then they would really mean it and theres no returning back on the words that have been said already.For now they cant really join ICO as of now but there are still some ways on how to join just as being said people can anytime use of VPN.Just be sure on the money you would use on participating not to be traced or suspicious.
6688  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Fun seeking gamblers vs profit seeking gamblers on: September 03, 2017, 07:23:05 PM
For me personally which side i gamble, i prefer to seeking a profit than just for fun on gambling. Because only with just for fun in gambling, it is less lead to the profits that will be in result. I prefer to set achievement targets that must be achieved to profit from gambling.
If you have that mentality I guess you will be able to achieved and enjoy your stay as most of us here declared that gambling is just to have some fun but its much exciting if achieving your goal has been achieved its really a matter of attitude inside any activity.
Even if we set ourselves goals in gambling, that does not imply we will success in them. There is no guarantee of that obviously. I think it is better to not even think about this word profit when you are gambling because no matter what you do, your fate ain't change.
It wont really change since gambling do works on that way and no matter how much we try the results would really be in common for sure this is why gambling just for entertainment and dont ever seek on making money with it because gambling wont really work on that way. Gambling is just designed for pure entertainment and theres no other means and winning amounts would only just a bonus into that.
6689  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What's your biggest regret about bitcoin on: September 03, 2017, 06:19:54 PM
If I am not wrong then I think we have discussed this topic more than 10 times on this board and search box in the upper right corner would give you all of the links. I am quoting some topic links for you,

* Your biggest bitcoin regrets?

* regret by not believing in BITCOIN?

* Regret and depression.

Go through these links and you will get to read almost 1K+ total views expressed about this topic. Hope that helps.
This thing i wanna like to say on which this question have been asked already a hundred times and been answered by thousands of people already but i will still answer for the sake of non-topic reply Cheesy
Biggest regret on bitcoin is when my friend introduce to me earlier on year 2011 as far as i remember and i didnt pay attention to it until i knew the price of bitcoin on year 2015 and i was amazed and regret that i didnt bought thousands of it when it was still cheap.
6690  Economy / Economics / Re: How to teach kids about Bitcoin? on: September 03, 2017, 03:42:07 PM
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/9-ways-kids-smarter-money-100050132.html

This article doesn't talk about bitcoin but it got me thinking how to get kinds interested in bitcoin within the context of appropriate money management lessons. Think of we could teach kinds about it. The growth, the adoption, the inflation and retraction. The allure of the "internet money".

...what other ideas come to mind?
Common dude let em enjoy their lives, because after they grow up all they are going to do is figure out on how to earn money.  Until then let them take the time to gain some knowledge and to become smart and not fall into people 's traps.
true... after they graduate college, responsibilities are gonna hit them like a truck.
I remember my sister always tells me before  that she can't wait to work and earn for herself, now after 6 years in the industry she's already tired of working Grin
They would really such thing on earlier times because they dont know whats the hardship on having a work and raising their own self on their own money. Teaching kids about bitcoin is always a good thing for them to know on what it is not only on money making opportunities but also on its main usage which is making a money transfer on other people with less fees.
6691  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin fees are like 5 sat/byte now what? on: September 03, 2017, 02:54:03 PM
This is all well and good, thanks for the information.
Segwit fix all of the problems with Bitcoin.
Advice, Don't use Coinbase !
I use coinbase and it wants to charge me $16 for a $8 transaction lool

I just did make a transactions on coinbase which i do pay up still $7 as a far as i remember on transfering my coins on other wallet which do really suck. Hope it would really be fixed soon and hopefully these service would adjust later on to its designated or normal rate of fees.For now its unjustifiable to pay-up large fees specially on micro transactions.
6692  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Bitcoin Cash - hold or dump? on: September 03, 2017, 02:17:01 PM

Quick poll just to check what's the forum members sentiment towards Bitcoin Cash and how will it impact the BTC price (therefore - yes, it's bitcoin related).

Changing votes allowed.
Im doing short trades on bitcoin cash as of now on which i can able to make money out of those movements and i can say that i really love to go with the waves of it. Not to be serious on which one i would choose between bitcoin as long i can able to make money with it then i still can consider that thing the same on bitcoin which i do always consider as the original one.
Yes, nothing can replace bitcoins and it is really ridiculous to leave bitcoins for any other coin. As far as the bitcoin cash is concerned, for short term trading and even for day trading, it is a nice choice. Bitcoin cash is showing continuous fluctuations, leaving many people with loss and profit.
Bitcoin Cash is just really good for making short trading or engaging it on active trading because its price do move on fast pace which traders would able to make money if they did ride with the flow in the exact time and as you said it would really leave some people on profits as well on loss too.You are right no one can replace Bitcoin to its place even Bitcoin cash.
6693  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: what do you think about pump and dump? on: September 03, 2017, 01:45:27 PM
what do you think about pump and dump?  did you ever trade on pump and dump event? can you give few tips for how to make money from this events? what i need to look for?
Pump and dump? Its just a normal thing on this trading world of crypto which this thing do normally happen on most coins. Riding the flow or the wave would be the hardest part of all.If you did miss or enter on the wrong time then for sure you would able to lose money but if you did get in on the right time then money will flow into your pocket. Indications?  most likely seek up for news regarding on a certain coin,either on its developments or updates.
6694  Economy / Economics / Re: Being a Smart Person or Strategic on: September 03, 2017, 01:14:50 PM
Is it enough to be smart with just nothing to lean on and go on with your life? Because i feel that there are a lot of people who doesn't know how to handle their money with regards to see in the future. Is it enough to be smart and not be strategical or somewhat a person who has a lot of experience. Who would you choose?

For me it is required to be a master of both things like of course you can not have experience if you are not going to try and some people would think it's a waste of their time if they are doing what they know already like repeating their work over and over again. So it should be in a balance.
People are different on any ways regarding on their knowledge and experiences. Some maybe on the other side and some may have these both things and i do agree on which we should really have both if we do like to maximize and save up for our future and making our plans effective and somehow are on successful side as always.There are people who are just smart but lacking on some aspects which can be considered as flaw.
6695  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: DeepOnion going down fast on: September 01, 2017, 01:00:48 PM
if you want some profit better not wait until it goes to the $0.XX, $0.0X and finally $0.00X pricerange where it belongs to

remember, 90% of the volume is the 'dev' selling premine chunks on novaexchange...

Just for the fun of it - i set reminder for September 1st 2018 with link to this thread. You say its gonna be $0.00X , I'm gonna say $28.

I wouldn't make plans long term for this coin, there isn't much activity around development, github page is crickets territory, it looks very centered around the signature campaign and not technology itself.

Although, I don't think people should get hyped about price increase or start panicking when drop, project is very young and there's no real liquidity.
This is what i observed too on which theres no activity around regarding on its activity and i see this coin was only get hyped too much. For those people who did get in on the airdrop would really benefit on this one.
This is just an another pump and dump coin for sure later on when the hypes goes down again.Price would go down again on where it is.
6696  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Where do you get your ideas for investments? on: September 01, 2017, 12:29:50 PM
I follow other's successful examples, but first I check if these people are really reliable. I don't follow my own knowledge at first point, because if I don't know about the investment how could I have knowledge about it?

And even believing other's suggestions you should start with a low investment, so you can take your own conclusions in practice if that is good or not for you.
This is what im doing too on which i dont really rush things up and i do go with my own decision without seeking information from other first.I do always find on reliable persons on a certain investment and i do tried out small amounts and wont really decide to put huge sums or going all in specially when im not really sure on the venture.If you do observe that it does give you some return and you already gained knowledge then that would be the time to make some add-ups.
6697  Economy / Economics / Re: Why Is Bitcoin's Value So Volatile? on: September 01, 2017, 12:00:44 PM
Why Is Bitcoin's Value So Volatile? I am confused to buy bitcoin now when it's value is too high.


Are you trying to join an investment or trading thats why you want to buy bitcoin? if so bitcoin is too expensive to purchase for now but you can have and keep a bitcoin by not investing but instead you join the signature campaign with no investment, by joining the campaign you can collect bitcoins with no cost. You just need to spend your time and enough patience.
For a newbie you are quiet knowledgeable already when it comes on money making which is actually right and its really possible to make money without the need on investing or pulling money from your own pocket since theres a way on earning it.Yes,it does really need patience and time because joining on signature campaigns wont really be an easy task.There are lots of things to consider first.Bakc to topic bitcoins price volatility is totally depending on the supply and demand which makes the price moves.
6698  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: ICO + Altcoins is it double bubble? on: September 01, 2017, 10:47:56 AM
Everyone keep saying that all crypto and especially ICOs are a bubble. and that they will all go down in the future.

But currently everything is going up and the virtual money move from hand to hand.

So what do you think will survive for long, tokens or altcoins?
We cant still say that still on ICO is already considered are on bubble since they are not being launched yet on any exchange. Bubble prices would be determined if they are already on the field.Most coins do really comes to a point on where prices are on bubble state which it usually pops out and go bearish again or being dumped.Its not really new on this trading world this is why we should really be wise regarding on our entries.
6699  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: the value of a coin. on: August 31, 2017, 12:19:02 PM
how do you determine the value of a coin or project? (against bitcoin) it's a broad question I know, but what helps you determine the value of coins ??
Value of a coin? Then it would depend on how big or small its entire supply and the coins are circulating and price do matter on how much investors or users do tend to buy or sell it. If there an active community and having a big trading volume on famous or big exchanges then expect this coins would really valuable.These are the factors i do see on which it can really affect the price of a certain coin.
6700  Economy / Economics / Re: panic selling on: August 31, 2017, 10:55:26 AM
Man bitcoin market is open to everybody and isn't controlled by central body so everybody can sell whatever bitcoin they have at any price they are happy with. But there are also buyers who see potential rise in price and buy those coins sold by weak hands. This happen in all day trading, you seem new to bitcoin trading.
That's right, panic selling is the main reason problem why many of the traders here loss in the end, They didn't become patience on waiting. Dropping the price of coins is not a sign for us to to get on panic, but a sign for us to buy it. So the next time it happen our emotion must be control by ourselves.
Well, they just showed an immature action, why did I say it? because if they are matured already, they would know the nature of price movement.
Bitcoin is volatile and that is its nature, so any dump is not really a problem as we have seen it many times rise after a big dump, big dump is just an opportunity for smart people, meaning it's time to buy.
Its not actually immature but this is just really a common mistake of a newbie specially on trading on which we would really able to commit these mistakes since we arent aware enough on the price movement of bitcoin.If we are already experienced we would able to say that we did a mistake back when we are still a newbie. We do really learn as the time goes by and panic selling would happen.I bet you did such mistake too when you are still a newbie.
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