Nice one gembitz..

Who wouldn't want a wwwwwwwwwwwweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee bit of dat?

Last time I checked, face melting and sustainable do not mix very well.. .

just saying..  you party poop


Are you a bot?

you bot poop


Lookie uie pooie

Trying to put dee king on a schedule.    


you anal-retentive schedule-setting poop

Yes... Make it so.

Oh gawd he is annoying.. just like proudhon, as you said.


I can see (or imagine) potential resistance at $53k and $56k.. but not at $64k...

In other words, where you smoking those charts (resistance levels) from marcus?

 


For sure, that would be a clown show if anyone believes that there would be any value in that beyond charades.

That's some variation of the $80k question...

It is so difficult to know whether we are going to break into no man's zone or not.. so surely we could get up to $55k and maybe even a wee bit above $55k.. but that is not necessarily going to tell us whether we are clearly and decisively into noman's land....

yet at some point, momentum is going to be created that helps us to get through no man's zone...

Many times it is difficult to see in advance, even though we should be able to see once we get through it..

I remain surely curious... but really have no answers either regarding whether we are breaking into it this time, beyond just watching and thinking that "it's looking good."  "It's looking good."



Even though long hair is preferred ... #justsaying


Usually it is not wise to attempt to fight momentum once it has started... and it would be nearly pure retarded to be selling at those prices within the range of our currently standing ATH... $70k-ish as well.


Oh gawd.. not that again.

 


You sound like a real whiner.

Nothing is guaranteed for sure.

And, by the way if you had invested weekly for the past two years (in a DCA way) you would be around 2.5x up off of your initial investment, so there should be little to no reason to be an emotional basket case unless you are both over investing and hoping too much about getting rich quick..

Getting rich does not usually come as quickly as you seem to be wanting it to happen..

But whatever, you do you.

Hopefully you can continue to add to OP in order that we can see all of the data in one place.

Of course, you do not necessarily need to show all of your investments if you have some preference for OPsec, but the extent that you want to maintain some aspect of your investment as a kind of real world learning tool, then it would be helpful to either put it all in one place or to have a reference to the places that it is located so that an overall and ongoing picture can be appreciated.


It may be helpful to look at a chart of the gold prices in the past 50 years in order to get some kind of idea bout what is going on in regards to performance that would thereby affect perceptions of possible future performance.



https://goldprice.org/spot-gold.html

The fact of the matter seems to be that in the past 10 years, gold is barely keeping pace with inflation.. so of course there were price spikes in the late 70s, there was a price spike from about 2002 to 2011 and then there was a recent price spike from about 2018 to early 2021.

In the end, gold seems to be both manipulated as fuck and also diluted based on its having outrageous quantities of paper gold that dwarf the size of its actual backed supply.  One of the advantages that bitcoin has is its ability to be easily and quickly taken possession of - including being verifiable through such process.

Of course some of the same manipulation tactics are going to be attempted with bitcoin, but a BIG ASS question remains whether such manipulation can as easily be successful since bitcoin is not physical and can be verified and taken possession of.... so in some senses, individuals can tell the manipulative custodians to go take a flying hike.. and in the mean time the actual holding of bitcoin will be more valuable through individual holdings or through entities who verify that they are not diluting the supply by making extra copies on their ledgers.

Another aspect of bitcoin remains its early stages of adoption that surely contributes to its ongoing price appreciation through such early adoption process, and of course, early adoption phase does cause some aspects of bitcoin's price appreciation to be artificial, so it could take 20 to 50 years or more for the masses to really get into decent levels of BTC adoption levels, and even if that might cause BTC to be an unfair comparison as compared with gold or with other assets, it still justifies getting in early rather than either waiting around and/or complaining that bitcoin's outrageously current status of considerable price appreciation is not fair because it is still in its earlier stages of adoption.  Seems better to jump on board rather than complaining about it... at least from my perspective, I doubt than bitcoin or bitcoin holders are going to feel sorry for those who failed/refuse to jump on board sooner rather than later... and if governments try to step in to redistribute, there may also be some challenges in that too, so in many senses, it is in each person's interest to act to attempt to preserve his/her own stake and to get a stake rather than waiting for anyone to help them or to attempt to make the distribution of bitcoin more fair.


There might be some challenges in keeping on reporting - but surely whether the person stopped buying BTC might be another question too.. . Sometimes if you are a newbie to an investment, you can get considerably thrown off about what to do if the BTC price more than triples from the period in which such a plan was started.. and then maybe even giving up on the plan after the BTC price had doubled.

I see some shitcoin posting too in regards to the OP of that thread, so maybe he got distracted into shitcoins... which surely could cause anyone to lose focus if they get lured into that quagmire of difficult to decipher pump and dump baloney.


One of the errors that people make is to overinvest, because you never want to withdraw from your bitcoin that is at a time other than your own choosing.

Accordingly, you have to maintain other funds that are to be used for emergency purposes.. sure, easier said than done, but there are ways to build yourself up to such a practice, which may well be to ONLY invest into bitcoin what you are not going to need for 4 years or longer and probably planning on NOT withdrawing from it for 10 years or more would be an even better plan in terms of building and managing your bitcoin stash.

Even if you are starting over, btc78, you are still likely going to be in a better place than a lot of people who have not started to do anything in regards to building a bitcoin stash.


Of course, one of the dangers of NOT having any solid goals is that you will get tempted into changing your BTC investing plan  too soon and start to withdraw too soon or try to play around with too much of the value that is likely to appreciate within the cycle.

Largely what you are saying, aysg76 is that you plan to cash out upon the rise of BTC prices in this cycle,.. and you are going to see how the cycle plays out and then you are going to cash out some or all of your BTC in order to try to buy back lower.. blah blah blah..

yeah.. you did not say that, but your creation of a 6month to 3-5 year timeline shows a lack of clear longer term goals..

Better than nothing, but does seem to have some problematic aspects in terms of its lack of specificity..


I am not going to poo poo the potential level of personal financial issues that might have come from the pandemic situation, and some people are still adapting to such negative personal finances based on the extremes of that.


Part of the establishing of a reasonable BTC budget is to make sure that you have your cashflow in order.

I personally like to attempt to plan out my cashflow for 2 years, and of course, my further out plan is more loose but the plan within 6 months is more specific and having to be more careful that it is specifically covered and not making any major mistakes.  I have been in such practice for about 30 years, and I have used an Excel spreadsheet for that in about the past 20 years.

Say it.

 

You are not the same person.. 

Bring back our real cryptotourist .. that little twat.


Please bring back the piggie headed goofball...

 

In 2013, when I first got into bitcoin, I was looking for a kind of dollar hedge investment, like gold, but I did not like some of the fees and other inconveniences of gold, like you mentioned... so when I came across bitcoin, it seemed to resonate with me right away, and I started a plan right away which involved investing for 6 months from late 2013 until about May 2014, and then to reassess my situation at that time.. which I did and I extended another 6 months, and by the time that I was investing into bitcoin for a year, I had pretty much established my position, and then just tweaked my strategy from time to time.

I do believe that there are going to be some people who look into bitcoin and it is going to resonate with them either right away or soon after looking into it (and maybe making a few mistakes, too?)... There are some people who consider bitcoin to be a good idea, but they are lacking in motivation to set up an account and to begin to take some action right away.. rather than waiting and/or not doing anything.

To me, it seem that if someone takes action right away and even just starts investing into bitcoin slowly, then they are going to start to get more comfortable with it.

I do personally believe that bitcoin is eating some of gold's lunch, and many people are realizing that, but surely there are some people who are already comfortable with gold because they have been investing into it for a while, but it also seems that some of those folks are going to see the light, after a while, especially if they are really trying to pay attention and study into bitcoin rather than failing/refusing to appreciate that bitcoin is actually around 100x or 1,000x better than gold (while bitcoin has a market cap that is about 1/10 of gold.. so there should be some ongoing appreciation of the upside potential of bitcoin), but there are going to be some people who consider the physicality of gold to be a positive attribute rather than really not being as positive as they are making it out to be.. so many of them are going to come around to bitcoin.. even if it takes 5-10 years or so to play out.. not sure how long it will take.. but one or two more cycles in bitcoin is going to be harder and harder to deny its ongoing solid investment thesis.... and more and more people are recognizing such strong bitcoin investment thesis and getting ahead of the game.. including OP and his strategies seem to be decently good in terms of ongoing investing into bitcoin (even if seeming to be relatively modest amounts.. it adds up.. and surely going to put him ahead of his peers (not just gold bugs) who are failing/refusing to see the light and/or failing/refusing to act which is almost the same level of failure).

We are not really going to know if these are currently high prices or low prices, and sure many of us suspect that we are on the verge of another upswing in BTC prices, so hopefully you are not really holding back on any of your BTC buying at this time.. and like a poster below stated that you have not updated your buys since August, which to me does not seem to be a good idea if you stop.. but it may well be an o.k. idea if you just maintain some kind of steady buying amount, and sure saving some extra in case the price dips, but not really stopping on the regular DCA buys.



If you keep buying, you may well become considered as a whale or a big fish down the road by merely accumulating a bitcoin or two.. a lot of it depends upon your timeline and persistency.. so of course, an even worse category would be a no coiner, so there are folks who had established decent stashes of coin and then they sell all or part of their coin because they want to buy back lower, which really just seems nutso to me, even though quite a people go down that path and end up with way fewer coins because they thought that they could time the market.

Let's say for example, you do not really have a lot of cashflow, but you are able to stack between $20 and $200 per week for the next 10 years, and sure maybe you ONLY stack one or two coins, but you still end up being in a very good position compared with someone who is trying to time the market and ends up making mistakes.

In the end, of course, you gotta do you, and so hopefully you figure out some methods that work for you and allow you to continue to be fairly persistent, even  if you might have part of your cash that you buy regularly at any BTC price and another portion of cash that you save in case the BTC price dips.. without being too greedy in terms of how much of a dip that you are waiting for because sometimes the dip that you are waiting for never ends up happening.. we have seen that a lot of times in bitcoin... think about $500 bitcoin in 2016 and people were waiting for lower prices that did not come, and $1k bitcoin in early 2017 and people were waiting for lower prices that did not come and $3k bitcoin in august /September 2017 and people waiting for lower BTC prices that did not come.... and $10k prices in September 2020 and people waiting for lower prices that did not come...  and seems like we had lower $30k bTC prices just recently and people waiting for lower BTC prices of either low $20ks or even sub $20k and those prices did not come.  Those kinds of situation repeat themselves over and over and over, and we do not really cannot know if todays prices are going to never be possible again, so we have to stack what we can to attempt to prepare for UP just in case further down does not happen... which we never know but we could be in one of those kinds of price situations again, even if prices are currently in the upper $40ks.


I think that there are still a lot of people who have failed/refused to get into bitcoin, and they are just going to be coming into bitcoin in 5- 10 years from now, and you are going to be looking like a genius in 5-10 years, especially if you keep on stacking whatever level of sats that you are comfortably able to do.. whether that is $20 per week or $200 per week or maybe once in a while you might get some extra cashflow.. and then you might be able to do more.. but even if you are not able to do more, it is good to make sure that you do not overly do it so that you do not have your regular expenses covered.

Well in November/December 2017, we seemed to have had a shift around that time.. maybe even twice.. once early in the year when we went from the sub $1ks into the $3k area.. and then again when we went into the $19k area from about $3k-ish, but then those higher price areas of supra $10k to $19k did not really stick until late 2020.. so this time around, we did seem to get a shift that happened from about $10k between about September 2020 that lasted until about April/May 2021 to $65k-ish.. but not sure if we are in the middle of another shift that is about to take place because really since May 2021 or so, we have been in kind of BTC price limboland.. correcting down to $28.6k and then just attempting to return back to where we were earlier in the year into the $50ks and hopefully above and beyond that. and perhaps another shift will be taking place, soon^tm?

I never really claim to know what is happening in terms of price.. even though it does feel like we could get another shift UP in the near future, and then perhaps another one or two shifts up in the next 4 years?  Hard to tell in advance, and sometimes it is hard to know even while in the midst of such shiftening - but when we look back, we can surely see and appreciate the progress that has been made.. especially if we (or you) happen to be a BTC HODLer and perhaps a BTC accumulator throughout, no?

Are you on the same page as me, in regards to our likely entering of no man's land upon going above $55k?

We are going to be the best of budds, soon^tm... .... no homo.


Fuck crypto...   

We are talking about bitcoin in these here parts.

Some of us here don't even know what crypto is... and that is not any kind of invitation to explain such vague-ass nonsense because it is probably off-topic anyhow, especially if it is some kind of an amorphous attempt to refer to shitcoins.... fuck shitcoins.


I could swear that the "next level" looks just like the last level.

I agree and understand how you may well consider bitcoin to be and to have been a risky investment; however, at the same time, I believe that there are ways to invest into bitcoin that cause it to be less risky than a whole hell-of-a-lot of other kinds of investments.

I also agree and understand that people vary in their readiness, willingness and abilities to embark upon risk, and frequently younger persons are more willing to take risks than older persons, and if we are getting back to bitcoin, the kinds of risk are both financial and psychological, but at the same time, again, I believe that there are strategies to account for your level of risk tolerance and to plan and create approaches that account for your individual situation when it comes to risk as one of the individualized factors that you should consider when or if you are going to invest into bitcoin.


Actually, there might be truth to this comment too.

Surely bitcoin has had a volatile history, and so when going through investing into bitcoin, if you are considering that bitcoin is causing you to increase your risk exposure, then like Bawb indicated, that increase in your risk exposure, might cause you to lessen your risk in other areas of your life.

Another thing could be true too.. Many of us likely recall how frequently and extensively Bawb was whining like a little baby during bitcoin's price drop in 2018 and perhaps extending into 2019, so those kinds of behaviors could serve as some kinds of evidence that BTC HODLers sometime might need to either get to a certain level of profitability before they start to feel that they are comfortable enough with their investment in order that the investment sends them back into risk taking grounds... so in some sense there could be some psychological elements in the expectations for profits, but if any of us become overinvested and we expect BTC's price direction ONLY to go in one way - which is UPpity, then we might start to whine like a little baby when the price goes against our expectations.

Personally, I prefer to create somewhat low expectations, including the way that I had ended up approaching my bitcoin investment. 

So when I got into bitcoin, I was wanting to get an average of at least 6% per year CAGR.... and maybe it did take me a few years of investing into bitcoin before it started to meet and exceed those first set expectations, so thereafter, I have been ready, willing and able to increase my expectations, even though my current approach of using the 208-week and the 104-week moving averages as my BTC bottom measuring points is still a pretty damned conservative  way of attempting to look at BTC, so in that sense, I feel that my ongoing investment into bitcoin really can allow me to be way the hell more risk taking - because the BTC price is way above and beyond either the 208-week moving average (currently about $16k) or the 104-week moving average (currently approaching $24,500).  What I am suggesting that those BTC bottom measuring prices are so damned far above my even loosest of average cost per BTC (which could be proclaimed to be around $1k), so that being at least 16x or 24.5x in profits by using the bottom prices or even close to 50x in profits if we use our current spot prices, as I type this post, causes a whole hell of a lot of financial and psychological comfort, so in that regard, the comfort levels can contribute to willingness to be risk-taking in other areas.... except for the problem if many of us might feel either super richie, approaching fuck you richie or above and beyond fuck you status, and therefore, we might choose NOT to take risks with certain aspects of our health because we may well feel that we have a lot of reasons to both live and not to injure ourselves because we have a decent amount that we could lose in a kind of opportunity cost way if we were to cause unnecessary damages upon our lil selfies. 

hahahahaha

Nice recovery... (attempt)


By the way, to me consolidation implies that the price is largely going sideways within a range, and after a period of time, it could either break upwards or it could break downwards.

For sure if you presume that we are in a bull market, then you would presume that the odds would be greater that the break, when it comes, it going to be upwards... and the opposite would be true, if you presume that we are in a bear market.

Sure, many of the regulars here are presuming that we are in a bull rather than a bear market, but surely there are some closet bears out there too. and even some closet bears and even folks just looking for almost anything that they can in order to spread a bit of bitcoin naysaying upon the masses... You are not above such a historical practice, so I am not going to presume that you are any time soon graduating out of your bitcoin naysaying inclinations..... even if you might be feeling some wee bit of warmies and fuzziness at this particular moment.


Link or it's a no go.

 


Great minds think alike...

 


He and his lil friend probably need to snap back to reality a wee bit MOAR better - especially there are a lot of entities, whether nation states or otherwise, that are going to hardly give two ratt's asses whether you happen to be 200 miles off some shore (and supposedly in "safe" territories.. to be your own supposed "sovereign")..

yeah right   ...

You better get your lil friend to speak with my lil friend...   .

hahahahaha

Your networth continues to increase in spite of ur lil selfie...

hahahahahaha


Well, the other portion of my post that you cited was largely responding to the aspect of your post in which you were proclaiming a kind of current status of BTC consolidation that appeared like a kind of bearish wishful-thinking.  

Of course, we already know that almost anything can happen in bitcoinlandia including BTC price performance angles that are outside of more likely outcomes..

In other words, your idea (or apparent hopening) of consolidation seems to be wishful in terms of it being outside of likely what is actually currently happening in terms of what seems to be current UPpity BTC price dynamics or likely to happen in terms of the trend being your friend, so yeah, I am having some difficulties considering ongoing UPpity momentum as "consolidation" even if it might end up getting stuckening at some point, so in that regard, you deserve a comment directing you to "suffer bear, suffer" (if not deserving of a more worser comment... or even a batman slappening.... #nohomo..  hahahahaha)

AmiNOTkoreck?


Link or it did not happen.

Are you trying to make friends with me?

sssttttaaaaawwwwwpppp  it.

No... there are other ways that you could get labelled as a troll, too.  The beggening is just one of the ways that you happen to fit within the troll category.  We do not need to go into any more detail in regards to your unimportant situation and/or the other various ways that you are likely a troll..

There is hardly anything important about any no coiner such as ur lil selfie, especially since you fail/refuse to learn or to take action to help yourself.

One thing that currently differentiates you from the run of the mill no coiner (or should I say pre-coiner) is that you seem to have some knowledge and awareness about bitcoin, but you still fail/refuse to act.

There are going to be a lot of no coiners and precoiners who have situations that are likely as bad as your own (psychologically and/or financially), and perhaps even worse than your own, but one thing that is going to end up differentiating them from losers like you, is that they are going to learn about bitcoin and act or at least learn from their mistakes, which also results in actual action that goes beyond mere whining..

So for sure, the choice is yours in regards to attempting to take advantage of a situation that is currently in front of you... and sure, you are likely pretty damned close to a lost cause, and so I give few shits about you on any personal level, and this post is actually an attempt to communicate for some of those folks who are either capable of learning and or learning from their mistakes and to start to take actions rather than merely sitting on their hands... which is also a common mistake, apart from your own situation eXPHorizon, to the extent that we can believe anything that you say is true (so there is that angle, too in terms of your trolliness, eXPHorizon).


For sure, that makes little to no sense, except your attempt at having some artistic and descriptive abilities.. or maybe you are just shit-stirring with your lame-ass illustration?  (puns intended)


In your case there is.


You are a twat.. Yes, of course, there are situations in which donations or gifts are warranted or helpful, but not in your troll-begging situation.  Funny that the forum admins even allow you to continue to whine and beg.  I thought that such behaviors were against the forum rules, but you persist.. you persist.. and we all suffer from your lowering of the standards.. sucks to be us (seems to go quite beyond merely royal).


You would think that Facebook would be a wee bit more sophisticated than that? .. I mean the accounting for trying to retain UPtime... .. kind of like the military that attempts to build in redundancies.. and surely, not all militaries are going to win or to achieve their objectives when they are overwhelmed.. and maybe that is what happened to facebook?  (we might find out later that they were randsome attacked or some kind of modern day thing like that.)..


Personally, I find cryptotourist to be annoying.. but being annoying is not against the rules.  Begging is against the rules.. last time I checked...

so I am not sure what basis you would use to suggest cryptotourist is banned..,..

Oh by the way, I do understand that he seems to engage in provocative name-calling that might be against the rules.. and maybe even various serial targeting of forum members and seems to be making shit up to attempt to denigrate certain forum members.. but I still am not sure if that even rises to the level of breaking forum rules... at least in the WO thread.  and there could be some other behaviors such as cluttering the thread, but I don't even believe that the thread-cluttering to the extent that it has been going on in the WO thread rises to such forum rule-breaking behaviors..

He does not seem to be promoting shitcoins, which is a kind of pet-peeve of mine.. .. so, in essence, I cannot really see what kind of current behaviors of his is rising to the level of breaking forum rules.. at least it is not clear to me at this time.  Maybe elaborate, if you believe that there is some there, there.  I might be a wee too lax or even unaware of some forum rules that might exist.


Well there is that angle, too..

but I have my doubts that aspiring to gentlemen behavior within forum postings would really be a worthy aspiration, even if there could be some value in the real world and maybe even practicing (learning) how to be more richie.. .. wwwwwwwweeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!

You think... ?

hahahahahahaha


Can never get the bear out of the BIG blocker, even if we might have a chance of being able to get the BIG blocker out of the bear.

Perhaps?  Perhaps?

Suffer bear...


Suffer!!!!!!!!


 


JJG is in a position to NOT be begging for BTC..

Go figure that.



Yeah right.  

As if you were actually interested in BTC.  Actions speak louder than words, you little twat.

Even if you were to start buying $10 per week, members would likely have a little more respect for your lame little whining ass.

Problem with you is likely a faulty character, so you cannot even determine what is good versus not..

You need some boot camp, and surely some batman slaps are not going to be even nearly close to sufficient for a wee lil disingenuine and lost twat like uie pooie.  

You need to start from the very, very, very basics to attempt to establish even a semblance of a foundation upon which to build.. and then perhaps?  perhaps you might have a chance, so long as strict guidance is followed and you are NOT allowed to deviate in any even mediocre (even for ants) kind of way.

Wow!!!!!

What strong predictive powers you have there, yung man.