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6741  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Cloud Minig Vs Hardware Mining Which is best ? on: October 15, 2016, 02:57:36 AM
Hardware mining, after you done the mining, you still have the mining hardware that can be resell again.
I do this, mining using R470 and if I wanna for changing into the another type I just selling this tools and hardware mining are more convenient and the risk is very low comparing with the scam investment like cloud mining.
6742  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Bitcoin exchange websites without withdrawal fees on: October 15, 2016, 02:50:26 AM
I think there is no exchanger that without withdrawal fees because all exchanger have fees the fee is 20k - 50k satoshi in different exchanger. If the exchanger have no fee be careful i think that exchanger is scam. So much better choose wise for the safety of your bitcoin.
The best answer are never, I told you your transaction are might never get a confirmation forever without fees, except the exchange are not put some fee for them self but the miner is always needed it. so if you're wanna for making your transaction are stuck try for never put fees on your transaction.
6743  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: I'd like to get some bitcoins. Is now a good time to do so? on: October 15, 2016, 02:44:56 AM
Actually it depends on what you are planning to do with that bitcoins. If you are planning to hold it for long long time then you can buy anytime but if you will need to sell it when you are needed (For example paying for your unexpected expenses etc.) then you should be careful you may lose money.
yes that is a fact and i think as people are expecting that the price of bitcoin can raised to a very very high level then in next few months then it is still good time to buy bitcoin and hold it for the price increase.
yes i am also agree with you, to me it is really good tie to buy bitcoin and then hold if for the price increase but you have to hold bitcoin for a long time and only the you can enjoy the profit of bitcoin.
I guess too late for buying bitcoin in this time and i think the pumping are already finished and in my opinion too difficult for get a pumping again, just waiting for the decrease rate will coming...  hold for a long time and best moment is in a short time.
6744  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading issues. on: October 15, 2016, 12:19:28 AM
Any trading issues?
Withdrawal from a certain crypto currency? Any problems?
Deposits? Buying problems or selling takes time and the price already changed.
The percentage they take whenever you exchange it back to bitcoin, are they higher or lower?
Which website takes a higher percentage?

Please share to make all of us aware of this circumstances.
Thank you.
The worst trading issues if the network gets a hardfork.....  the performance are very less and will giving a worst impact for the traders and i think that is the serious problem. and the other just a common problem i don't mentioning it in the important issues.
6745  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What would be your recommendations when trading crypto? on: October 15, 2016, 12:11:58 AM
But at this time are the best moment for buying an alt with your amount, totally all of the alt kind are already got big waves from bitcoin and get a lot of dropped and I think just waiting for a few weeks the price will get a repair into the normal value or standard rate.
6746  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Alt coins worth buying on: October 14, 2016, 05:23:01 AM
Buying altcoins is even the best thing that ever came up to me because its profitable with a taste of risk but that is also what I like about it.
I really love trading and I think its worth investing in some altcoins!

it  sure fun investing to the ICOs as well. i get to invest just $25 for an ICO and take profit 3x due to the bonuses i got.
seem like a good way to earn few bucks really. the worst part though its that if the altcoin gets to have better price later.
REALLY, investing in the reliable coin will giving a multiple profit for use, and i be an addict caused by that....  Grin the important think you need to be a patient for waiting about the pumping will coming after the dumping period are gone...
6747  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: advantages of bitcoin on: October 14, 2016, 05:15:18 AM
please pen down all the advantages of bitcoin over traditional bank system. Also mention if bitcoin system is adoptable for bank system.
This thread are similar with this one i hope you're just visiting the old one in here
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1638759.20 for your second question is already provided too and just use the toolbar search for that.
6748  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How do I grow my btc? on: October 14, 2016, 02:56:48 AM
If you need to grow bitcoin i suggest not to put it on any investment sites now because it's very tempting to them to turn to scam because the price of bitcoin is continue rising. So i were you i will just increase my bitcoins by signature campaigns.
What the relationship of the price btc is rising and the investment place to be a scam?if your means about the value will be more caused by the rising i can say no for that, because the scammer are not cares about that.
6749  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: The best strategy on: October 14, 2016, 02:46:48 AM
I don't think there is a formula for best strategy. Like there is no strategy to win the lottery. The best way is to develope your own method using experiences and knowledge that you gain with time. And you always have to be flexible and listen to the market.
Yeah there is no best strategy in trading. Because
trading we need it to learn how to be a good trader
and we time to do that. Yes experience and time
that you need in trading to gain.
I just using a simple strategy like buying in low and selling in high, the another additional for my strategy to be a patience person, and i already make a profit over 5BTC and what about that, i never need a special strategy for it... Grin
6750  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: I have 5K€ to invest ! on: October 14, 2016, 12:49:46 AM
if you do not like to take risks, maybe it can buy and hold bitcoin for the price increases.

but, mining ETH risks also not too big, just buy mining tools, building mining RIG and buy a few VGA, I think it is good enough for it.

or take a little risk and investment in ICO's, it could be huge profits, can even get a 2-3 fold.

The mining Ethereum is get less profitable now, especially for the people with high electricity price and old GPU.

ETH seems to be a coin that will go down in the future, I would not mine it nor invest in it. The coin I think that will prosper on the short term is stellar and bitshares. Other coins seems to be rip of off others which means no innovation and no future.

Tell me what is the innovation of stellar? and bitshares?  You are very biased in your statment,  what can you say about Vcash? Monero? Dash?  these three coins are far better than the coins you promoted.  There are other coins that have dedicated dev too and keep on improving their coins, so aside from your favorite coin there are far more worthy coins to invest .

I think it is better to use the Etheruem or the Monero than the stellar and bitshares. They are not so innovative.
Too bad for the stellar, i guess the stellar is already born in the 2014 and 2 years are passed and i don't see the price of stellar are like the eth and monero... seems to be a bad place for becoming the investment place.
6751  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Do you think Bitpay can use in many stores online? on: October 14, 2016, 12:22:22 AM
Hi guys i just new about bitpay and i didn't here about bitpay here so i want to know if we can use this in any stores online to buy services or product like in amazon?
Be better for directly visiting their site and find what you're curious things about bitpay seems like in the homepage of bitpay are already mentioned what the features they are supported.
https://bitpay.com/
6752  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Version of Kickstarter? on: October 14, 2016, 12:10:55 AM
So, question: Is there a Bitcoin version of Kickstarter?  A platform where people can pitch ideas for businesses/products to the masses and find backing through Bitcoin?  I am looking at launching a business and was thinking about this idea as a potentially amazing platform. 

Also, please forgive my ignorance, but has Bitcoin been classified as a money or commodity, by the IRS?  The reason for this second question is due to the S.E.C. trying to "protect" small investors...  If Bitcoin isn't considered a money, but a commodity, then I could see it opening up the option for people to "invest" in a company via a kickstarter platform with Bitcoin, and eventually receive a dividend in Bitcoin.  Even for a initial investment of $5 (unlike the $5 "donation" level most kickstarter campaigns have).

Barring the S.E.C. and the classification of Bitcoin, I imagine you could just once remove the Bitcoin through another Alt currency and accomplish the same thing.

I apologize if my thought process isn't as concise as it could be.  Any input would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks!
In the past times, I just heard about the bitcoin starter are like the fiat crowdfunding platform but caused by the demand is so lowest. the owner is choose for closing their platform and there is not bitcoin crowdfunding platform at this time .
6753  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: BetterBets - Not Provably Fair AGAIN on: October 14, 2016, 12:03:18 AM
I also thought the same about this why using moneypot, only a few people know how it works
Only a few people know how MoneyPot works! Shocked
Okay, let's say 5ato5hi8itcoin are one of the money pot users and he knows anything about the money pot and the another are the people are never or not know about the money pot. this is a great joke.  Cheesy
6754  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: where you invest? on: October 13, 2016, 11:56:22 PM
I have never invested in HYIP, Pyramid schemes, cloud mining, or any kind of "double-your-money=fast" schemes.
Never have.Never will. Don't ever just 'follow' anyone recommending you such options.

I have found that investing in gambling casinos are quite good, though it's mainly for long-term investment but the returns are okay and it's fairly safe as long as you've chosen a good casino. I would recommend crypto-games.net. 


Exactly investing in gambling site is good strategy to earn money but need carefully selected the site maybe you had recommend good site because crypto-games have good reputation.
That's very good in this time with a clear statement if i already know i have more than 50% will get lost in gambling. that's so beautiful way for you guys. what are you mean about investing in gambling site?are you referred into the bank roll?
6755  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: where you invest? on: October 13, 2016, 07:11:32 AM
hi guys where you invest, maybe I can follow you? Undecided
Are you wanna for follow me? Grin in this time I just be addict person or investing into the reputable ico of new coin or presale coin....
I can imagine sometimes if I got a correct place of ico I can not only doubling my bitcoin but over for quadruple my starting funds caused by the ico....
6756  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin or Ethereum ? on: October 13, 2016, 07:02:07 AM
Bitcoin is no way near zero, i think it wont happened in the future, and i think we still can't compare ethereum and bitcoin,  because ethereum still in early stage and bitcoin already exist for a long time, so i think ethereum won't be able to catch up with bitcoin after the hard fork incident
people is wanna for using eth caused by their volatility and using bitcoin caused by their stabilization in this time, both have a different behind that and you can't compare them at the same time and in fact people is need bitcoin and eth for making a profit for their life.

Thats right. The questions isnt "Bitcoin or Ethereum?" its "Only Bitcoin or Bitcoin and Ethereum?"

The bitcoin will be long lasting if it is developed properly. It has withstand the test of time, and people trust it.

That could be true at the moment. It is being tested by the DDos. The respose of the developers is quite good.
Are you sure if the vitalik are testing their own network with DDoS... the sounds is weird for me....  that already makes some coin are migrating into the another network and database.... let me know what means testing....
6757  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Do u think ICO is Good or Bad on: October 13, 2016, 06:55:51 AM
ICO is only shown as a good thing, which means the idea of it is good but in reality those who are asking for ICO investment are 99.9% looking to scam and make some money out of it.

not majority is ico coin this end scam
you can see this now is selling ico is finish pesobit(much people profit ico price only 350satoshi 5 day after ico finish listing in exchanger price 700 satoshi and this now price 4000 satoshi)
another big coin selling iconomi, anthsare and decent i think is same pesobit too buyer ico can take profit

so if you want buy ico, you must choose good dev and must use escrow
Especially pesobit i think there is a lot of people are not realize if the price of pesobit will rocketing like this, too many people are doubtful with them and this is very surprised for me the price of pesobit already increase more than 1000%.
6758  Other / Off-topic / Re: [Discussion]What work would you do for 1$USD per hour? on: October 13, 2016, 04:17:56 AM
1$/hour, 10 bucks in a day... For 10$ I would do some very basic things like clicking on something in every 5 or 10 mins, or filling some surveys.. For Anything more complex, I need to get paid more. A Lot more.

Well people already do almost a similiar thing like you saying, the faucets are allowing to get an income but you need to have a lot of them to reach those income, and hourly i doubt you can reach such alone. I would make 5- 10 clicks at any ad space if requested.

Well working with or claiming with faucets for one hour is not sufficient just for you to earn $1. As we know that you are going to claim very small amount in faucets so I won't waste my precious 1 hour for claiming there. I think it is just like paid to click sites that has needed to have a lot of referrals and not just referrals, but active referrals.
And who are suggesting about for claiming a faucet for earning your salary?what the hell is that, i just can imagine how much the time is already wasting into the faucet's place, that is very bad in my mind.
6759  Other / Off-topic / Re: I will invest! on: October 13, 2016, 03:59:29 AM
Somday i will invest on the right place and in the right time. Cause for now there are lots of scam investing sites. Too risky to join ,and no guarantee that your money will go back to you.
that's why you need for talking about it in here because in here there are a lot of the people can share about their experience for investment place and me think that's already be an obligation for us.
6760  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Best selling item online for bitcoins? on: October 13, 2016, 01:34:22 AM
What you think about this topic, I wonder what would be most profitable to start selling for bitcoins, and I found out that I have no idea what is happening on the online markets.

https://news.bitcoin.com/top-5-products-openbazaar/

OpenBazzar have a list about top 5 things that people are buying with bitcoins.

1. Food
2. Cigarettes
3. Seeds
4. Comic Books
5. Clothing & Accessories

What is your opinion about this?
Just voting about clothing and accessories and I'm not sure you're wanna for selling a food through the online market and that's like impossible for me and too risky.
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