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681  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin kwoledge is not complete without bitcoin investment on: October 22, 2023, 08:34:14 AM
Op, it is good that you have gained some knowledge about Bitcoin before you decided to buy and hodl it for a long term. This Bitcoin knowledge you have gained will help you to hodl your Bitcoin even when the Bitcoin price fluctuates you will still hodl your Bitcoin because you have already studied how Bitcoin works, and nothing will discourage you from selling your Bitcoin at a low. And is like you have perfect timing for buying Bitcoin at this period because Bitcoin price look stable these days.
It's true what you said, if we buy something, whether at the market or supermarket, we definitely look at the function of what we buy. Moreover, when we buy an asset, the price fluctuates very erratically. If you have studied or understood the concept of this asset created by its inventor, perhaps your eyes will be opened to how great he was in creating this asset. In creating a wallet to store it, the secret key to the wallet, I think he is the most genius inventor in this most sophisticated century. Yes, maybe everyone should study first, including me, before investing in this asset. After gaining little by little knowledge, I became more confident in this asset, I continued to accumulate it every month and continued to hold it until my children grew up. Yes, I gave a small inheritance to my children, of course when they grow up my children will enjoy the results of their father who is struggling now
682  Economy / Economics / Re: Is there a formula for Bitcoin starters? on: October 22, 2023, 03:46:55 AM
If you look at investors who have just entered the world of investment, usually these novice investors confuse their monthly income with making additional money through investment, even with small capital, which is not only challenging but very dangerous for your life. Look for additional or side work to make ends meet or create your emergency fund. You also need to know that in the world of investment, prices are very volatile and uncertain. If you experience a decline, the value of your money will automatically decrease, not the value of your assets, usually beginners will sell it all of a sudden, seeing their money decrease and being afraid of a bigger loss.

Fulfill your living needs first, if you feel sufficient and stable in your finances and life then you can re-enter the world of investment, set aside cold money that does not disturb your daily needs, you must be prepared if at any time your money decreases very drastically. Not the value of your assets, keep doing it with Dca, you will get the best average value in accumulating your investment assets.
683  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: October 21, 2023, 07:52:59 PM
Sassuolo vs Lazio match is gonna be a difficult match to predict with Sassuolo being in the 12th position, having played 8 matches with 10 points, 3 wins, one draw and 4 loses likewise Lazio also in 13th position, with 10 points, played 8 matches as well, won 3 matches, drawn 1 and lost 4 matches with this analysis one can easily predict the outcome of this match as a tie but I see Lazio being the possible winner of this match, let's see how it turns out as there are just few minutes to the kickoff time.
Yes, this is a middle standings match, maybe Lazio is superior in this match even though they are playing at their opponent's home ground, if you look at the last previous match Lazio has a good track record in the local or Champions League. Even though Sassuolo has won against big teams such as Juventus on 23 September 2023 and Internazionale Milan, it has become confident in every last match. Even though you are playing at home, don't underestimate Lazio, Lazio is quite good at having players in every line. Yes, this will be an exciting battle later, I choose Lazio as the winner this time


684  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ UEFA Euro 2024 in Germany ⚽ - Qualifiers on: October 21, 2023, 06:39:14 PM
In about a month's time, the remaining matches will be played and the group stage will be completed.
Starting from group A, Spain and Scotland will most probably be the two teams to come out of this group. Norway no longer has a chance.
In Group B, France are definitely out of the group and will most probably be the leaders. It's still early for the second team, but I think the Netherlands will most probably get out of the group.
In Group C, we see England definitely out of the group and there will be a big battle between Italy and Ukraine for second place. I hope that Italy will be the winner of this competition.
In Group D, our representative Turkey is most likely to come out of the group as the leader. Secondly, there will be a big competition between Wales and Croatia.
In Group E, we see that everything is not completely clear, but it would not be wrong to say that Albania will most likely come out of the group and the second team is not yet clear.
In Group F, we can see that Belgium and Austria are definitely out of the group, I think there is no need to talk more in this group.
In Group G, we can say that Hungary and Serbia will most likely exit the group, Hungary is guaranteed to exit for sure, but Serbia is not guaranteed.
In Group H, although it is not entirely clear, we can say that Slovenia and Denmark will go out hand in hand.
In Group I, Switzerland and Romania are most likely to get out of the group, but we should not forget that Israel is also in the race.
And finally, in Group J, we can say that Portugal is the clear leader. It should not go without saying that Portugal played some good matches in this tournament, they had a really good tournament.
Yes, I agree with what you said about Groups A and B, G, H, I, and J. Yes, in group C I think so too, Italy still has the last 2 matches, North Macedonia, in the next match Italy must win to narrow down the number of points against Ukraine in the standings, if Italy loses against North Macedonia then it's over for Italy . In fact, Ukraine will be more enthusiastic about facing Italy in the next match at the end of the match.

Group D, if you look at Croatia's last 2 matches, Croatia is far superior in winning every match Compared to Wales, Wales in the last match will be against Türkiye. Group E, the top 3 candidates in the team standings, still have a chance to become group winners and group runners-up.


685  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: October 21, 2023, 05:43:43 PM
Chelsea has the advantage now to win Arsenal but how are we sure that they would use this opportunity wisely to secure a win. Arsenal will definitely fight back for an equalizer and who knows if Arsenal might even win the game. There will be joy in Stamford Bridge this evening if Chelsea ends up winning this game.

Chelsea 1-0 Arsenal
Yes, Chelsea are now in the lead in the first 45 minutes, yes this will be exciting in the second half, of course Arsenal in possession of the ball is more dominant than the hosts in the first half, and for the 4-3-3 formation Arsenal are much braver to go wide to attacking the opponent's camp, looking at Chelsea's 4-2-3-1 formation, it is quite troublesome for the opponent in the midfield by playing at home with full support from the crowd, I am sure Chelsea will dominate this match.


686  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Do you ever feel tired of waiting? on: October 21, 2023, 10:18:01 AM
Investing in bitcoins takes perseverance to finish a four-year cycle. It is essential to build up a sizable bitcoin portfolio to prevent panic and rash judgments. The amount of money you make during a bull run depends on the size of your portfolio. Waiting for a volatile asset like bitcoin is worthwhile, and stockpiling more now while the price is low will help you be satisfied with your profit when the bull run comes. Like bitcoin, life requires patience. Therefore, it is crucial to exercise patience when making investments in bitcoin.
It is everyone's dream to become rich, but we all need to know that no one gets rich instantly, either in the investment or business world (commerce). Yes, many people are impatient when waiting for their investment, usually this habit is for people who are just starting out in investing, and are afraid of losing their money. It's true that you said Bitcoin has a four-year bull and bear cycle. If people already understand this investment, you should add as much to your portfolio as you can. Many rich people accumulate these assets. Many have succeeded and become rich from bitcoin. It is the extra patience or emotion within them that determines their success.
687  Local / Ekonomi, Politik, dan Budaya / Re: Sulitnya Mengedukasi Masyarakat Untuk Menolak Amplop Para Calon! on: October 21, 2023, 06:25:36 AM
Saya sependapat dengan agan-agan, bahwa politik uang ini hanya akan laku dikalangan masyarakat yang ekonomi nya rendah alias miskin dan tingkat pendidikannya rendah alias bodoh.
Maka pemimpin seperti ini jika terpilih dia akan cenderung mempertahankan kemiskinan dan kebodohan.
Dia tidak akan mendorong masyarakat nya untuk berpendidikan tinggi dan memberikan lapangan pekerjaan kepada masyarakat nya agar masyarakatnya punya pekerjaan.
Dia akan lebih senang memberikan masyarakatnya sumbangan dan bantuan terus.
Tahap ekonomi nya gitu-gitu aja ga maju-maju.
Kalau mau berubah pilihlah pemimpin yang memberikan kita Ide, Gagasan bagaimana kita bisa mandiri.
kebetulan ane tinggal di pedesaan Kab. Natuna yang mana mayoritas nya sebagai nelayan ya bisa di bilang mayoritas nya miskin lah. Memang banyak dari calon mengincar kalangan bawah (miskin), mereka pikir gampang untuk di iming-iming kalau misalkan calon jadi, desa akan begini akan begitu biasalah angin angin surga .
Setau saya Desa itu sudah ada plan nya di setiap anggaran tahunan. Dan balik lagi setiap individu orang miskin tersebut bukan gampang untuk di kelabui, mereka pasti mempunyai akal sehat yang mana , yang baik atau ambisi untuk memperoleh kekuasaan dari para calon tersebut.
Bukan mempertahankan kemiskinan, yang ada gimana cara nya modal nyalon maren harus balik, dan harus untung selama menjabat. Biasanya orang kalau dah jadi apalagi nebar sana nebar sini biasanya kacang lupa kulitnya. Kalau saya kurang sependapat jika masyarakat tidak di dorong untuk berpendidikan tinggi, justru bupati setempat pernah mengatakan dalam pidatonya jika ada anak yang mempunyai potensi dalam sekolah nya dan kategorinya tidak mampu untuk melanjutkan ke jenjang berikutnya lapor langsung ke saya, atau lewat instansi yang sudah di tunjuk. kebetulan saudara saya selepas SMA di beri masukan dan arahan kepada kepala sekolah setempat dan Alhamdulillah nya di terima di jakarta, biaya gratis hingga lulus dan ada biaya masukan di rekening di setiap semester nya.
688  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin can change lives on: October 20, 2023, 05:09:48 PM
Bitcoin will certainly change someone's life, but whether those changes are positive or negative will largely depend on us, bitcoin has no power to decide that. After all, bitcoin is like any other investment, it can bring us wealth or it can make us lose everything, and it all depends on us. Many people have become rich by investing in gold, real estate and stocks, not just bitcoin. Don't forget today's top billionaires don't invest in bitcoin, it's all their talent, not gold or real estate that makes them rich.
Many billionaires in the world believe in this one asset, Bitcoin has the strength, namely that its technology is currently difficult to hack. Besides that, Bitcoin also has a limited supply and is not controlled by any party. If it had been easy to hack at the start, perhaps many people would not have trusted Satoshi's creation. For me, there have been many successful people who have changed their lives in Bitcoin, such as Davinci Jaremie, etc. As far as I know, the price of gold is controlled by the Fed in its monetary policy, in raising or lowering interest rates.
689  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: "Lump sum Vs DCA" for Bitcoin Accumulation on: October 19, 2023, 04:55:51 PM
In investing there are various strategies used by investors, the right choice will determine our future results, as we all know in investing prices are very uncertain and very fluctuating. Lumpsum Technique: This strategy is where investors invest large amounts at one time. This technique is also good for investors who are patiently waiting for the timing when we determine the best price. This technique also has advantages or benefits if we are right in determining the price to buy it. Dca technique: This strategy is where investors routinely accumulate every month. This technique also makes us disciplined in investing and also gets the best average price for investing.



690  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: A Lady Cried After Losing to Sports Bet. Gambling is Not Your Mate. on: October 19, 2023, 02:44:56 PM
I still wonder what a woman is lurking around for in gambling, they can't take risk, afford to loose money or even get the mind of gamblers, women are very emotional and therefore cannot have that kind of a risk bearing mind to take risk for gambling, she would have expected to see the winning coming instead of losses but things came to her surprised all of a sudden that she discover her money is gone for good.
Yes, that's why before we enter a gambling game, we have to take into account all the risks. And we must have a minimum amount of money to play. If I look at cases of women who really want to get an instant financial boost in gambling, and these women hope to win, there are many cases like this in every country and as far as I know, in these gambling games it is regulated. to experience defeat.

691  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: Bounty sebagai pekerjaan utama? on: October 19, 2023, 07:57:14 AM
ngobrolin masalah bounty, sekarang bounty apa nih yang recomended, udah lama ga pernah join bounty. aku lihat sekarang banyak yg lagi ikut moonbet, tapi untuk signaturenya minimal Sr
Masalah recommended susah om banyak dari bounty sekarang kebanyakan tidak di bayar, ada beberapa manajer cukup mempunyai nama besar seperti juler, dan brainboss sedang open kampanye media sosial, ada kawan saya beberapa bulan kemarin mengikuti bounty mananjer nya cukup terkenal di kalangan signature tetapi sampai sekarang teman saya tetap menanyakan di telegram, sampe sekarang tidak di tanggapi untuk pendistribusiannya . Kalau untuk signature bord local sering update koq om oleh senior senior , kaya saya sering sering lihat update nya, saya langsung apply dulu, masalah dapat tidak nya urusan belakangan, yang  penting aplly dahulu. kalau saya liat profil akun om , om cukup lama di forum ini, seharusnya tahu seluk-beluknya.
Contoh seperti bounty Combo dan Metropoly yang tidak bayar para peserta nya, saya lihat di papan reputasi distribusi Combo yang di tunda hingga akhir desember terus bounty Metropoly di bayar setengah dari pool yang didiskusikan oleh manager dan tim, entah lah mana yang benar tapi itu rame di papan reputasi. Grin

Kalau di pikir ya mending join Signature bayar BTC perweek tidak ada penundaan lama kek bounty berbulan bulan hehe, sebenarnya ane juga liat tidak gampang join signature BTC akun harus benar-bener post nya kontruksif, merit pun harus bisa lebih banyak lebih bagus karena persaingan ketat slot pun terbatas saya liat.
Ya salah satu nya bounty itu juga yang pernah di ikuti oleh teman saya , dan bounty finxcoin, hingga terakhir ketemu sama dia sedikit cerita belum ada kabar untuk pendistribusiannya, untuk sementara teman saya ini fakum terlebih dahulu dari perbounty an. Saya sempat bercerita sama teman saya coba naekin akun situ, emank si rada rada puyeng tapi nikmat si menurut w naekin akun. Mungkin belum ada kemauan aja dari teman saya itu.

Memang Tidak mudah juga dalam mengikuti Campaign Signature, dengan slot terbatas dan para pesaing juga banyak dari berbagai negara atau global forum ini. Ya Jika mendapatkan kesempatan akun kita di pilh  oleh manajer, jaga lah kesempatan itu soalnya kesempatan tidak akan pernah datang 2 kali hehe. Ya benar yang om bilang merit banyak bisa mempengaruhi akun kita dalam mengikuti Campaign tersebut, tapi balik lagi ke manajer nya dia mempunyai kriteria khusus dalam memilih peserta nya dan Potensi untuk penyegaran bisa terjadi kapanpun. Dan dari segi pembayaran memang jauh lebih cepat dari mengikuti bounty media sosial.
692  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: 16k DOLLARS LOSS IN JUST 1 YEAR on: October 19, 2023, 05:10:07 AM
For points 1 and 3, 4 it is one unit, indeed everyone has different views in determining what coins to invest in, there is no problem investing in several coins other than BTC. If I had that much funds I would do it in just one coin, namely Bitcoin. Increases and decreases have become commonplace in the investment world, prices are very volatile. You need to remember that in investing, don't think about getting rich quickly or instantly. Everything needs a process, learn like rich people like M Saylor, they continue to accumulate their bitcoins. Regardless of the current price, he is sure that this asset will be bright in the future.

For point 2, if you have tried this over and over again, I really regret your actions, even someone who is skilled can lose too. Have you studied it before, if I were you I would never try it, the risks are very, very big.

Learn from your failures, this will make you survive in the following year, this failure is your best teacher.
693  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: October 19, 2023, 03:13:57 AM
In the last five El Clasico matches, the home team is not always the winning team because in their last encounter, Barcelona won four and three of these wins were at the Santiago Bernabeu, and Real Madrid won one, which was the Copa del Ray, at Camp Nou. This shows that the match is always unpredictable because your home may not favour you unless you played very well.
Yes, it is true that predictions will be difficult for all parties to guess, they are just guessing at their respective champions. This depends on the coach in fielding the best squad and there must be cohesion within the team. Indeed, if you look at the statistics for the 2023 meeting, Barcelona is far ahead of Real Madrid, Barcelona won 4 matches in various leagues. Copa League, Copa Del Rey etc. There are several Barcelona players who are injured, R Lewandowski and other players. Here the medical team pays attention to the condition of each player, if the player is fit, it is likely that Lewandowski will play in the match later. Moreover, competing later at home, this will provide additional encouragement for the team.



694  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: My first Bitcoin on: October 18, 2023, 06:31:05 PM
When I didn't know this forum, my first Bitcoin was by buying it with my monthly salary, and I routinely collect it every month until now, I also got to know this forum through my friend, through my friend's information this forum can make a lot of money by participating in bounties campaign or signature campaign, almost a year ago I started focusing on this forum, and 10 months later I achieved it, exactly 4 days ago I got my first bitcoin through the signature campaign provided by the bounty manager, I feel infinite pride because I was able to achieve my goal so far by participating in the campaign.
What you have been doing is basically the thing you should focus on more. Signature campaigns are good, but they are not a permanent way to earn Bitcoins as campaigns end, there might not be any in the future, but when you are buying Bitcoin constantly every month, you are accumulating for the future and that accumulated sum will surely give you great profits in the long run, so you should never stop doing that thinking that now you are earning from the signature campaign, consider signature campaigns earnings as a bonus or a side income.

I have always been grateful to this forum for giving us the opportunity to earn a few extra bucks through signature campaigns while we do our routine surfing and participate in a few discussions. I could never think there could be a way like this to earn some Bitcoins before joining the forum. However, I never forget that it's always temporary, and my only permanent way to accumulate is to buy some Bitcoin every now and then.
Yes, it's true what you said, The Campaign Manager may at any time pause or terminate the project he or she is leading. And not so long ago, the manager was quite famous and held many signature campaigns, substituting participants for refreshment in the project. Yes, when I first joined the Campaign and got paid and the project was paused by the manager. Yes, we are always grateful for what we currently get from participating in the campaign. We must use the manager's trust, In recruiting early and trusting us, we must remain consistent as much as possible. Yes I agree with you. This method is not a permanent way to accumulate the bitcoins we have. We have to have another way to accumulate it, yes I am a worker and set aside every month to buy this asset.



695  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League 2023/24 Season on: October 18, 2023, 04:16:40 PM
Yes is a good oportunitie not only to secure a easy title but also to reach the Champions League in case you are not doing so good in the league. I think this year its not the case because i can see a Liverpool tryin to fight for the Premier League title, but still a nice double chance to reach Champions LEague against weakers teams.
Liverpool must be consistent in every match if everything is to be achieved this year, the coach must arrange for each player to be replaced so that there are not many injuries. In the Premier League the competition is quite tight between the top of the standings and not far away in points. In the EUFA league, Liverpool have been quite good in carrying out their duties in this prestigious league in the last 2 matches. They have not lost in the last match


696  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Government job or private job? on: October 18, 2023, 11:11:12 AM
Yes, it is true that working in the government is the dream of many people in various countries, with a fairly stable income and having a pension fund, many people are hunting to get it. With the situation the country is facing like Covid yesterday, working in the government means that people don't panic and there will be no dismissals.

It's different from working in a private company, someone must think about the impact on their fate of continuing to work at the company or the company management to terminate their employment relationship, if the company's finances continue to decline. If you still survive until the specified age, what you say is true, even though you get pension funds, it makes people think quickly about managing their money when they receive the pension funds if we no longer work at the company.
697  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin accumulation at all time high on: October 18, 2023, 08:37:00 AM
This is not a sign of a bull market, basically when the bitcoin halving happens right then and there. When a whale buys a lot of bitcoins, and he sells his bitcoins, it can be a sign of a bear market. Also, see after the whale bought so many bitcoins, but the bitcoin market didn't increase or decrease. So no matter how many bitcoins the whale buys, it has nothing to do with the bull market, the bull market in bitcoin will basically happen after the halving.
Basically whales are smart in playing the role of playing the market for Dropping the price or being bearish and news on social media to panic everyone to sell their bitcoins, at the time plankton plankton sells in each size and in large quantities everyone sells, that's where the whales gobble it back with much more funds big. We should learn from them why they are so thirsty for more. In general, for everyone, every time we accumulate dca, it will definitely increase every following month. The important thing is that we are confident about this asset. Bitcoin has 4 yearly bearish and bull phases. We shouldn't be too provoked by the news out there, just keep accumulating as much as we can.



698  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: October 17, 2023, 06:54:53 PM
Even before several of their players were injured and underperforming, Manchester United's previous performance cannot be compared to that of Bayern Munich, and they are far superior to them and will finish ahead of them in the group stage. Manchester United still has a chance to finish second in the group because they have four more matches to play, but I doubt they can beat Bayern Munich in their second leg clash. If they lose or draw a point with Bayern Munich, they will be disqualified from finishing first, and Bayern Munich will almost certainly win their remaining four matches.
I think MU's chances of finishing in second place in the group will be very difficult, because Manchester United's performance itself is unstable or inconsistent. I prefer Galatasaray, in the domestic league they are quite impressive with the 8 matches they have played, the 7 wins they have achieved and so far they have never lost. On the 24th Galatasaray will play against Bayern Munich with full support from the crowd, I am sure Galatasaray will get points at home to maintain the points position in the group
699  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Don’t push playing more on: October 17, 2023, 05:36:41 PM
Every day, gambling on a roll can make you become addicted to gambling. Sometimes you have to give it a break, no matter how serious it is, you have to give it a break. Many people have been stocked with this mindset of trying to win back the money that they have lost from gambling.

Trying to get a win when losing is very difficult in the gambling world, so many chronic gamblers don't know, but only a few deals with it so well. However, in this case, when gamblers gamble for undeviating days, it makes the winning hard to come, but if the gambler just takes a break for days, then the winning might start coming.
I agree with you, yes, if we lose from gambling that day, we should take a break the next day or the next few weeks. Sometimes many players find it difficult or difficult to control themselves and continue playing instead of getting the next opportunity to get lucky in gambling. This is where we need to take a decision to stop controlling our finances and emotions in gambling games.

700  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Cash out or keep playing? on: October 17, 2023, 03:50:13 PM
Yes, actually in a situation like this a person can think clearly that he has won before his eyes and we should cash it in and then go home and enjoy the results. But in gambling, not many people try to cash out their winnings, instead they continue to play, this greed makes a person broken and messy.

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