According to the BitDeer website, they have an L5 on offer. So assuming that isn’t made up marketing by BM, they have an unreleased scrypt miner.
Specs as quoted:
1473 MH/s
1425 W
0.97 J/MH
I doubt they can made up something like that, bitmain would lie about anything else but not about a gear they don't have, so it seems like these info are accurate, it's only a matter of when will they release it. thanks for the information. if true thats great news as it sucks.
a properly setup l3 + does 500mh at 700 watts or 1.4 J/MH
so the improvement is not much which means the l3+ at low cost price and low cost power is better bet.
it sucks big time to say the least, i was expecting something more like 3gh for 700w range , at least based on the improvement of the x11, this is also what you got when you used sha miners for reference, this makes me wonder ! how is it possible to improve that much for x11 but not for scrypt? also giving the above specs, L3++ would be differently a better option specially that new miners usually come at extremely high prices. |
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I am so mad at myself, a so called legendary with 0 merit ! .  when was the last update by the way? i am a few merit short  Thanks again for the amazing free service. |
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I have been visiting the forum as a guest for years, mostly being directed by Google when looking for answers regarding mining gears. I was always too lazy to go through the sign-up process , neither i felt the need for being a member. on April 14, 2018 I "had" to sign-up because I was looking for Bitmain coupons and i had to send PMs to some sellers, that was the only reason I joined the forum " The funny/stupid username explains it" After looking around the forum specially the mining and technical discussion sections, i thought to myself that this might actually be a good place to hang around and gain some knowledge. i was not active at all in the beginning, I was mainly making WTB topics, made a few semi-good posts ( just to get some merit so i could send more PMs for trading purposes ) so I became a Member and then i was almost not active at all until December 2018. i started to like the forum, started to share my humble knowledge mainly about mining , technical analysis ,reputation and sometimes DT drama. on Dec 2018 i started to take the forum a bit more seriously !  From Dec 2018 up to this point I have received 468 Merit and became 65th most merited member. Here is an overview of my received merit using DdmrDdmr's dashboard  and here is a diagram by LoyceV I am sure that there are many other members who gained merit in a quicker manner, so this is not even impressive, but to everyone who thinks it's impossible to become a self-made hero /legendary - my story proves you wrong. The key is to always try to "help" . every member at some point has a problem that needs solving, you should know your strengths, what you are good at, and help other members accordingly, and most importantly, do not post for the sake of merit only , because you will most likely turn into a shitposter and end up on most member's ignore list - as simple as that. I would also take this chance to thank all my merit cycles senders for encouraging me to keep up a good quality content. |
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شكراً جزيلاً على الموضوع الجميل وجدت معاناة بالحبث عن تكلفه الكيلو واط ببلادي لا اعرف هل يخفون هذا السعر لكي لا نكشف عن الكنوز حتى بالفواتير الشهريه لم اجد سعر بخانة ك.و.س !! اظن المفترض يكون سعر الكيلو واط بهذا المكان لكن بحثت ببعض المواقع وجدت تقريباً سعر الكيلو اكثر من ثلاثين سنت 0.30 (ساتأكد مره أخرى) لكن بعيداً عن هذا ماذا عن تعدين العملات الاخرى altcoin باستخدام كروت الشاشة هل الامر مجدي ؟ تكلفه الكروت اقل بالكهرباء صحيح ؟ هل استهلاكها كبير للكهرباء سؤال آخر من باب الفضول الاجهزة التي ذكرتها تتأثر كثيراً بانقطاع التيار المفاجئ ؟ لا خلاف ان كروت الشاشه ستكون اكثر تأثر بالانقطاع المفاجئ بل ربما اخطر يسبب تعطلها ماذا عن اجهزة الانتي ماينر يستحيل ان تكون هناك دولة عربية تكلفة اكيلو وات فيها 30 سنت "دولار" , تسطيع ان ترسل لي اسم دولتك في رسالة خاصة وربما لدي احد الاصدقاء المعدنين في بلدك يكمن سؤاله, بالنسبة للتعدين بكروت الشاشة الموضوع اصبح شبه غير مربح , السبب الرئيسي في دلك هوا ان معظم العملات اصبحت تعدن ب اجهزة الاسيك , لازال هناك بعض العملات مثل الايتيريوم والمونيرو و غيرها لكن الدخل سيكون بسيط جدا , يمكنك التحقق من الدخل اليومي عن طريق هدا الموقع www.whattomine.com, انا شخصيا لدي بعض كروت الشاشة مزالت اعدن بها , استرجعت راس المال من فترة طويلة ولا مانع عندي في مكسب بسيط منها الان لكن لن اشتري اي كروت شاشة في الوقت الحاضر اي استتمار لي سيكون في اجهزة اسك مثل المدكورة في الموضوع. بالنسبة لموضوع انقطاع الكهرباء المفاجي لا يسبب اي مشاكل نهائيا, المشكلة تكمن في عودة التيار, لو كانت قوية جدا او ضعيفة يمكن ان تسبب مشاكل , لكن في العادة محولات الاجهزة قوية وتتحمل تيار منخفض وعالي في نفس الوقت, بصفة عامة لا مشكلة في انقطاع الكهرباء المفاجيء |
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"Me , myself and I"
Thanks
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You say the team won't get paid until the arabic translation is done, but then you say "they will only get paid after the ICO ends" , you said this in your trial of defending whoever is suppose to pay those other members who have finished the job. So which part are you lying about?  |
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Can i get another one of mine |
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Most likely you made a mistake in your worker/pool.
Make sure you have no spaces in it, also try a different pool.
This error usually means cgminer has not started correctly, in many cases a simple reboot fixes it.
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Well I guess it's not much worse than everyone here mis-using the term "ROI" for freakin' ever. Return On Investment is a continuous process (usually described as a percentage, or fixed value, per unit time), and what most people are trying to discuss is the breakeven point (where the accumulated returns equal the initial investment).
Sorry, I just woke up from a nap, and the only thing I remember from the dream I had was the line "I'm not angry at you. I'm not angry at all. It's more like disappointment. I'm very familiar with disappointment; it's... nigh perpetual."
Regarding the initial question, remember the first rule of any venture: don't spend more than you can afford to lose.
you remind me of my dad, he cares a lot about these tiny details, he would "correct" everyone at least 2-3 times a day, don't get me wrong i like my dad , but i think we " the average people" just prefer to use simple words that are easy for us to understand, regardless of the technical meaning behind it, when i use the word ROI , i think of it as a point of time when my 100% HODLINGS are back to where they came from prior to buying the gears, this does not mean that i don't know that the actual ROI % by then would technically be 0% (excluding whatever my gears are worth by then) thanks for the advice, good to know you are not angry at me if you notice I recommended
a 50 kwatt for sha
a 10 kwatt for scrypt
I think i am going to take this recommendation with a slight change in ratio depending on the exact price of L3++ , i have contacted a few sources in china, still waiting for the best price, the L3s have less weigh so shipping should be a plus, i will share the exact number with you once i get the final quote. thanks a lot pal. |
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I'd be willing to take a vouch copy and vomit a couple of thoughts back into this thread. Sort of like a review, but not necessarily structured in that way.
My main question though, is why wouldn't you just make something like this public, for free - in the form of a thread or database that is maintained and updated regularly?
this is my hard work , I do it while you sleep , why should i give it for free ? i will send you a vouch, please post a honest review. I'd like a vouch copy please  sent vouch to you sir. I'd like a vouch copy too but I'd gladly pay if I can use escrow or PayPal.
sent you copy sir, sorry can't accept paypal, i am worried you charge back sir, btc only. thank you sir. |
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Mods > this is a legit guide , it's a proper "DIGITAL GOOD" that i worked on for months, now i want to sell it , please don't delete this topic.
Are you planning to buy something from a member on the forum ? you are probably a bit worried that you might get scammed, i have done an intensive research, collected names of scammers and put them all in a list which now i want to sell. If you buy this guide/list . you will avoid dealing with many scammers. While my list does not contain all the scammers, everyone on the list is a scammer, this is the perfect guide specially if you are a newbie. I am selling my guide for 0.00001 BTC , discount is available for first 100 buyers. I am willing to send FIRST, no need to use escrow. PM for guide. vouch copies are available for trusted members only.
VOUCHED !! I can confirm this is a real list of scammers. I verified it against another list of scammers available for free here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3486346.0 and it's a 100% match. If you try buying from the users in mikey's list you will most likely get scammed. Get a copy of the list for yourself and for everyone in your extended family. Stay safe. Thank you for the review, stay safe.
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Although I'm not buying digital goods in the marketplace of this forum, it is good if you can post their profile link or even the thread they have started for people awareness, sometimes people mistype the name and might think that they are dealing with the right person.
I don't have an automated method to do that, nor the time to do it manually, i hope someone else can take care of it.
You should charge .0000000001BTC but have the buyer drop a penney in a collection box to officially make it a sale.
the list is now on sale, get it while available |
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sup people ! so up to this point, the 2014-2015 seems to be playing out quite accurately, or maybe because we have no better reference, this seems to be the only proper way to make these long-term analysis.  looking at the weekly chart, 2015 aside, we can clearly see that the 40-42 zone on the RSI has been the most circuital area for the lower side of the market. by looking at the 2015 bottom, we have the following. a major drop to around 28 level on the weekly RSI, 3 breakout failures, a break out , a retest and a bull run. so what do we have in common so far ? a major drop to around 28 on , 1st attempt to break above is about to happen - this leads to a short term market analysis ; For this mini rally we having, many traders are calling for a test for the 6k area, but why do i doubt that? along side with many other inductions, breaking the 42 RSI on the weekly is something MAJOR , i don't see it happening this time, we are already at 39.5 , i don't see much room for price to move up , a few hundreds is probably it ,if ever. Back to the long term view, now assuming the theory remain valid and we drop from the 40-42 level, we should head back to 3.3 to 3.4k where the 50SMA on the monthly and the 200SMA on the weekly sit, we then need to test the 40-42 level again maybe 2 times, once we break it, we going to test it again, fail to break below and the bull run begins. this puts us some where around July, tho timing is not important, it's all about breaking that 42 level and then retesting it , that will probably be the best time to go long if you want to watch your portfolio grow every week, but as far as we are below the 42 RSI on the weekly, chances are we going sideways or dipping even more. This is not financial advice, buy/ sell as you see fit at your own responsibility.
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I've been waiting for years so I can wait a little longer. It's just that I miss the good old days with 10% ups/downs, a little bit of boost will give a little excitement too. Not a lot, something about $7k-$8k, it's too long since we're crawling in the $3k-$4k range.
assuming we have bottomed, then you "might" see those numbers by end of 2019, maybe Nov / Dec . it's very likely that we will be ranging between 3 and sub 4k range till then, hardly possibly anything above 5k, now all of this assuming we have already bottomed, things will take longer if we have not. |
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This worked for my L3+ that was on the blissz FW then downgraded to the L3++ FW from Bitmain, then back to Blissz. After downgrading to L3++ I got the signature not found and did the above to fix.
Thank you!
Glad this worked out for you as well, did you face any difficulties? was the guide easy enough to follow? please let me know if you think i need to clear out any of the steps. Thanks. |
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Because they know it's a myth ! it all started by a novel writer, then a few ships disappeared around that area, and the fud become real, but how many other ships and airplanes were lost somewhere else far from Bermuda? the logic states that it's nothing but a fake story followed by a coincidence that turned to a myth. do your two relatives believe in flat earth too? |
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رغم اني لا احب التعميم ولكن في بعض الاحيان يتوجب عليا دلك.
دعنا نقول ان 99.9% من البوتات التي تتحدث عنها حضرتك والتي نرا اعلاناتها على مواقع التواصل الاجتماعي والقروبات وغيرها , هي مضيعة للوقت فقط لاغير !
كما شرح لك الاخ عمر البوتات وجدت لتسهيل اوامر التواصل والتنسيق لاصحاب القروبات , ولكن في حد داتها فهي ليست مصدر للدخل ابدا مطلقا , يوجد طرق اخرى مثل الباونتي في المنتدى يمكن ان تعطيك مكسب ولو بسيط " لا املك خبرة فيها ولم اجربها ابدا " لكن فكرتها منطقية وقابلة جدا ان تكون حقيقية على عكس بوتات التليقرام التي تقوم بالتعدين لك وتدفع لك بتكوين هكدا بكل بساطة , هده كلها نصب وغش واغلبها يستعمل لسرقة محتويات هافتك او حاسوبك , لدلك ابحت في مواضيع الباونتي واعتقد بعض الاعضاء هنا لديهم الخبرة الكافية لمساعدتك.
تقبل مروري.
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موضوع مفيد جدا ولكن لم افهم كلمة ان التعدين يعتمد ايضا علي الحظ ؟
هل تقصد سعر البتكوين؟
كذلك اري ان بند الصيانة والعمر الانتاجي للاجهزة كان افضل انه يدخل في معادلة الربح
وليكون مساعد في الاختيار ما بين الاجهزة ؟
كل الاشياء التي قمت بسردها في تعليقك هي عوامل الحظ في التعدين , ومن شبه المستحيل حسابتها في المعاملة دعني اعطيك مثال عملي , لدي بعض الاجهزة تشتغل بصفة دائمة للسنوات ولم تتطلب اي صيانة, ولدي جهاز توقف كليا عن العمل بعد 3 شهور ! وشبه كل المعدنين مرو بنفس تجربتي بعض الاجهزة قد يعطل خلال شهرين او 5 شهور او سنة وبعضها يشغتل من 4 سنوات الى هدا الوقت, و الاعطال تختلف, بعضها يكون تغير مروحة ب 10$ البعض الاخر تغير لوحة في الجهاز ثمنها 100$ البعض الاخر غير قابل للصاينة اصلا.. لا يوجد اي دراسة او ارقام تبين لك كم سيشغتل جهاز التعدين عندك , فهي تعتمد كليا على الحظ حتى لو وفرت لها نفس المناخ والظروف ! بالنسبة لجودة الاجهزة تعتبر متقاربة لحد كبير, يعني لا يوجد شي سوا الحظ والقدر من ناحية بند الصيانة والعمر الافتراضي ! للاسف الفرق الوحيد الدي نسيت ان اقوله , وشكرا لك لتنبيهي انه جميع الموديلات الحديدتة "من غير الاس 9" لا تشغتل على كهرباء اقل من 200 فولت ولا اكتر من 240 فولت,, رغم انه هدا الشي نادر الحدوث لكن وجب التنبيه منه , فبعض الدول لديها جهد كهرباء اكتر او اقل من الطلوب,, على خلاف الاس 9 فهو يشغتل من 100 فولت حتى 260 فولت. العامل الاخر الدي يحدده الحظ هو سعر البتكوين, بعض الناس اشترو اجهزة رخيصة بي 300$ او 400$ وعند الارفتاع الجنوني للبتكوين رجعو راس مالهم في شهر وكسبو عشرات الاضعاف ! البعض الاخر دفع 5000$ لشراء جهاز تعدين وعندها حصل انهيار للسعر ومرت شهور وشهور وهوا لم يرد حتى نصف راس ماله! الاشياء العملية الوحيدة لدراسة الجدوى هيا التي تم دكرها في الموضوع, يوجد عشرات العوامل الاخرى والتي تندرج كلها تحت عامل الحظ لذلك يستحيل حسابها ابدا.. |
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why is this because like you I know a ltc miner doing 1.2gh and 700 watts is coming sooner or later.
i won't be worried about such improvements,am worried about something similar to x11. 119gh/D5 vs 19gh/D3 that's 6.26 improvement with almost the same power range,the next scrypt miner might do 3gh at 700 watts, and it could come out any time soon, that will be a killer! correct me if i am wrong. i do want to be wrong this time honestly as the numbers for L3 seem slightly better than S9. Please tell me I'm not the only one here whose linguistic sensibilities throw up just a little bit every time the word "hodl" is used intentionally. I know it's become an intrinsic cultural element of this industry but gosh dang is that a stupid word.
I think it has been intentionally misspelled from day 1, and I love how it sounds and even how it looks, i am going to Hodl on to saying the word Hodl every time i see fit , i apologize for the innocence HODL |
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من ردود الاعضاء اتضح ان الامر سهل ؟ بل ما يسهل الامر اكثر نشرك معه المفتاح العام ! لماذا تتوقع ؟
(في الحقيقة لا اعرف ما اذا ممكن اكتشاف مفتاح مخفي 20 حرف ساحتاج لفهم ردودهم اكثر هناك .. ما رايكم هل الامر ممكن ؟؟ )
ليس من المستحيل انك تعمل بروت فورس لي 20 خانة لمفتاح خاص..مثلا المفتاح الخاص بالبتكوين كل خانة تتكون من اي رقم من 0 الى 9 واي حرف من A الى F مما يعني وجود هدا العدد من الاحتمالات في حالة عدد الخانات يساوي 20 "1208925819614629174706176" طريقة حساب الاحتمالات هي عدد الاحتمالات مرفوعة لاس عدد الخانات وهوا 16 "مجموع الاحتماليات لكي خانة من 0 ال 9 والحروف من A to F " 16 مرفوعة لاس 20 هدا الرقم كبير جدا ومن الصعب معرفته .. لكنه ليس مستحيل ابدا لكن لنفرظ انك اعطيت 5 خانات اخرى من البرايفت كي للهاكر.. الاحتمالية ستكون 16 مرفوعة لي 15 = 1152921504606846976 لاحظ ان الرقم نقص جدا. لكن تخيل مدى صعوبة المفتاح كامل وهوا عبارة عن 64 خانة يعني 16 مرفوعة لي 64 الرقم كبير جدا حتى الالة حاسبة هنقت عندي مع هدا حتى ان تمكنت من ايجاد البرايفت كي ستواجه عقبة معرفة المفتاح العام, لافائدة من ايجاد مفتاح لقفل انت لا تعرف مكانه.. لذلك لاحظ انه معظم المواقع او المحافظ تغير المفتاح العام فور استعماله, لانه عنوان المحفظة هوا لي المفتاح العام, المفتاح العام يصبح متاح فقط عند استعماله لارسال العملة لمحفظة اخرى. فهدا سلوك حماية اضافي يستخدم معظم الناس,بالرغم من انه نسبيا زائد , لاحظ انه يوجد كتير من العنواين المفاتيح العامة المعروفة ويوجد بها ملاين الدولارات ولم يستطع احد ان يخترقها. هده بعض الامثلة 70 الف بتكوين تقريبا https://bitinfocharts.com/bitcoin/address/1HQ3Go3ggs8pFnXuHVHRytPCq5fGG8Hbhx 50 الف بتكوين https://bitinfocharts.com/bitcoin/address/1JCe8z4jJVNXSjohjM4i9Hh813dLCNx2Syتم ارسال بتكوين من هده المحافظ والمفاتيح العامة معروفة. ولكن لا احد استطاع ان يجد المفاتح الخاص بها حتى الان. |
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