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6861  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: June 09, 2015, 03:11:43 AM
Looking forward to a 'Monero'-like ring signature sidechain and Lightning network sidechain as first working demonstrations for the force of the distributed sidechain solution of self-similar networks operating concomitantly at multiple scales transferring value effortlessly up and down the wealth cascade.

Shit this is too important to ignore. Actually I had been thinking this out over the past days.

Subsumption of all altcoin advantages into pegged Bitcoin side chains is a very powerful threat to avoiding NWO dominance.

At the end game, TPTB push all their zombies that use Coinbase, Circle, Paypal, Facebook, etc into a pegged side chain which is a centralized ledger with world bank control over the debasement rate. MP's defense plan is destroyed by the pegging.

Monero has no technological disruption scaling advantages over Bitcoin in terms of mining, thus subsumption into a pegged Bitcoin side chain is imminent. Whereas a coin with scalable mining AND protections against implemention of pegged side chains (if that is possible, on my todo list to research the Blockstream whitepaper federation proposal) would not be implemented as a pegged Bitcoin side chain without losing the protection. Thus such a coin would garnish support from all those who want to resist the NWO outcome. Or they buy the pegged side chain version, because unlike other pegged side chains which can't resist 50% attack, such a side chain could survive alongside the cabal NWO side chain. However they may not be inclined to invest in the pegged side chain version of such a coin design, because they lose the upside ROI of such a novel design. Thus I am fairly confident that I possess the killer design which resists this subsumption. Blockstream is attempting to destroy the economics of altcoin, but I have an ace up my sleeve.

That in a nutshell is how this battle is going to play out. You read it first here. Don't forget who told you first.

The wildcard is if GavinCoin proceeds and there is a war now against MP et al. That might open a (probably short-term) window for Monero.

in the end, Bitcoin with larger blocks is what will win.  sidechains will die and take Blockstream with it.

Sorry but the zombie masses who will use Circle, Coinbase, Paypal, Facebook, 21 Inc devices, etc.. won't care when their coins are processed in a centralized pegged side chain (with large blocks).
6862  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: June 09, 2015, 02:35:00 AM
another way to look at this is that are we (meaning ALL of us in the community) really prepared to be the real resistance fighters in this war on USD hegemony?  i'll admit right here that i am not.  i live here in the US, have a family to take care of, and i provide a valuable service to my community.  i am not prepared to sacrifice this.

This deserves a reply from me.

Finally some overt honesty from the man. This explains everything. He has compromised for pragmatic reasons. Thus I can understand very well. This is what I said upthread. Doctors are invested in the system. They can't disrupt it.

except i'm not making any transition to Monero.  oh well...

Your fate is clearly tied to the politicized NWO outcome.

that doesn't mean it won't happen though but is the reason for the extreme resistance to it's adoption from the economic majority who are currently invested in Bitcoin.

Astute. It is quite true that old money will resist change because it has a vested interest to do so, and even will resort to political leverage to make it so. And only technological disruption will force change.

In addition to potential technological disruption, there is also an internal war within Bitcoin now. If the antagonists don't compromise, Monero may be the beneficiary. Thus I assume they will compromise, except MP won't. MP must be short Bitcoin and long Monero. There is no other logical explanation, unless he is irrationally ideological (or a disinformation agent).
6863  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: June 08, 2015, 11:45:45 PM
One more post to clarify some final issues of great importance...

Given the links I provided in the prior post (e.g. the Reese commission report) on the existence of a cabal and given Armstrong's unwillingness to post the revelation about Larry Summer's involvement with "21 Inc" given he had published every detail about Summer's involvement, and given Armstrong's insistence on a NWO monetary cooperation reset and him conditioning us for such on set dates, has anyone else entertained the possibility that Armstrong is a fraud set up by the DEEP STATE to condition us to accept the coming machinations of the TPTB as natural? (P.S. I am still evaluating the Farrell video which mentions UFOs, as this seems too fantastical to take seriously, but I am pondering an interpretation whereby TPTB created UFO mirages to scare their own members into believing they are reptilian. Keep in mind the strange pagan rituals of these elite groups, e.g. Skull & Bones, Bohemian Grove, etc)

Armstrong's unwillingness to publish the 21 Inc revelation could be simply explained as it would blow a huge hole in his assertion there is no global coordination amongst the elite towards a NWO. But why would he resist this interpretation? Why would he resist a mea culpa? Perhaps the non-conspiratorial reason could be that he feels so strongly that the only way the world can avoid a Dark Age is to implement his proposed solution and he may feel that if the readers think TPTB are preordained then they won't work for the political solutions Armstrong has proposed.

But if Armstrong's life vocation has been about not ignoring data, then the above explanation makes no sense. Thus I return to Armstrong being a fraud as perhaps the only explanation that makes sense, but then that doesn't compute entirely either, because he was in jail for so many years against his will. Perhaps the one explanation that makes sense is that Armstrong's model is real but he was hypnotized and mind programmed while in SuperMax prison and now is incapable of thinking for himself on this issue of TPTB. Or that the circumstantial evidence about TPTB is not sufficient for Armstrong to falsify their existence and his overriding desire for a political solution allows him to justify ignoring some data  Huh

Interesting reading the following post from Ethereum's Vitalik. My design also attacks the same problem, but in a much more elegant and non-heuristic manner that is guaranteed to always avoid censorship.

https://blog.ethereum.org/2015/06/06/the-problem-of-censorship/

Also why are iCe and Cypher so adamant and unwilling to respond to my points completely and instead resort to ad hominen actions such as a political move of putting someone on ignore or posting cartoons about trolling? Is it because they are paid operatives of disinformation? Has Cypher been compromised to work for some group because of the case threat against him? I don't know the answers to these questions. My overriding conclusion is that politics and technical disruption are mutually exclusive. If we see the preponderance of former, then we know we don't have the latter.

On the issue of Cypher's case, the business agreement he entered into as described by the plaintiff's filing, appears to me to be an intentional scam based on the 10% of every unit sold by HashFast. The percentage is too high to be profitable on hardware and/or HashFast existed for no other reason than his forum promotion. Clearly that does not represent a real sufficiently diversified business plan and model. Also Cypher has denied to publish a link to his rebuttal of the facts of the case even I asked him for it. He may think this is his personal affairs, but he made it public by profiting in an alleged scammy way on his reputation here. This is another reason I said I would never put my reputation on any altcoin. I don't want to be dragged into culpability for a public exposition. Also Cypher has stated that he wants to verify the identity of each person in this thread who is on the opposite side of his case. This appears to be a preparation for revenge. I had deduced his motive before he wrote that, and that is why I decided he is disingenuous and I have no incentive to Skype with him. Furthermore I am now contemplating that he is a compromised by TPTB and may be working as a disinformation agent. Occam's Razor would argue that the least assumptions are that he is just a greedy guy (who doesn't have "mea culpa" in his vocabulary) that isn't that astute on computer science and tries to misapply medical research practices to a different vocation that is outside his expertise. And thus the only way for him to profit greatly on this new technological wave was to resort to scammy political actions.

P.S. rpietila the Farrell video discusses the technology for anti-gravity at 32 minute mark. He also posits at the 57 minute mark that the amount of gold in world may be understated by an order-of-magnitude. I have not formed an assessment of this video yet.

Edit: the bearer bond issue towards the end of the Farrell video potentially has enormous implications on crypto-currency!

Which is a long way of saying... cypherdoc, you should start a "Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. [moderated]" thread. All of the intelligent people will migrate over, and then you can just kick out the trolls.

You do realize don't you that you just destroyed your rationality. But rationality wasn't your objective was it. Politics is all we have here.

RE: TPTB, I tend to ignore people who consistently reply multiple times in a row during a conversation.  Because there is a pathology there... they are writing more for themselves than for others.  The exception to this rule of course is the guy who is stimulating conversation in a thread by citing interesting new news, etc.  Cypherdoc in this thread and adam in the classic wall observer for example.

Because you are more interested in politics than technological disruption. Anyone who desires rationality will not ignore data. You do realize don't you that I have technological disruption and thus I don't need your politics. Check mate.

Friendly reminder, just in case you forgot.

In case you forgot that a notice of intention is not a usury insurance against discovery. Where are your priorities?

imagine getting all those ppl and their fiat involved in those operations to switch to Bitcoin or Bitcoin mining.

Mining ROI is the problem that has to be eliminated if you want technological disruption. Abstractly, for as long as resource extraction power vacuum is concentrated at the center of the network, then it can never escape velocity on politics. If you can't understand the prior sentence, then just need to wait for your imminent education.

Every reasonably advanced thread is indistinguishable from magic, and therefore attracts non-intelligence and trolls like a honeypot. Letting them destroy the vestiges of readable discussion that might once have existed, is your holy commission.  Huh

Bet you don't even have a thread as you seem not to care about your readers even that much  Embarrassed Tongue

How can a scientist know what is data before he employs unexpected data to refine his theory. He can't. You may argue that you are omniscient and can pinpoint in real time relevant data, and I can argue you delusional on this particular point (not overall). Afaics, your most egregious errors in judgment have come from creating moderated threads to discourage dissent and encourage an aura of superiority, e.g. reinforcing your calls for "Bitcoin to the moon" and HODLing at $1000, $700, $600, $300, $200, ...

Given the links I provided in the prior post (e.g. the Reese commission report) on the existence of a cabal and given Armstrong's unwillingness to post the revelation about Larry Summer's involvement with "21 Inc"

I missed something. What is the 'revelation'? As far as I know 21 Inc and Summers have both been entirely up front about it (using it to promote in fact).

Revelation for his readership (which is perhaps 100,000 or more) who are not aware of that specific publicly available data. It is an anomaly because Armstrong has made vilifying Summers one of his main and most intense themes.

21's mining use case shows that blocksize has no impact to miners at all.

 Huh Ultimately block size modulates transaction fees when debasement declines, with another halving due in 2016. You all seem to forget TPTB operate with long-range planning.

You may be only focused on the point that their miners will send hashes to a pool, thus don't have to process the transactions, but is not sufficient to make the conclusion of "no impact".

merely for the opportunity to troll me would be one reason.  but i suspect that doesn't explain it all.

He is likely just bored while waiting for true disruption to arrive.

You are more spot-on than you might realize.  A good part of what draws me to this thread is indeed watching your head swell.  I bet you are as surprised as I am ... the native abilities which your mind has to draw in the following.

I strongly encourage lurkers who are not yet 'found out' to add to this pressure because the resulting display is very amusing.

Politics is a least common denominator effect. Is that really surprising?

Intelligent people should feel trapped by the lack of technological disruption in Bitcoin. I presume they do (otherwise they are not that intelligent).

see, i told you, you can't stay away.

He (and most everyone here now) will be gone when technological disruption arrives. Enjoy it while it lasts. The pinprick approaches...
6864  Economy / Economics / Re: Economic Totalitarianism on: June 08, 2015, 11:38:32 PM
One more post to clarify some final issues of great importance...

Given the links I provided in the prior post (e.g. the Reese commission report) on the existence of a cabal and given Armstrong's unwillingness to post the revelation about Larry Summer's involvement with "21 Inc" given he had published every detail about Summer's involvement, and given Armstrong's insistence on a NWO monetary cooperation reset and him conditioning us for such on set dates, has anyone else entertained the possibility that Armstrong is a fraud set up by the DEEP STATE to condition us to accept the coming machinations of the TPTB as natural? (P.S. I am still evaluating the Farrell video which mentions UFOs, as this seems too fantastical to take seriously, but I am pondering an interpretation whereby TPTB created UFO mirages to scare their own members into believing they are reptilian. Keep in mind the strange pagan rituals of these elite groups, e.g. Skull & Bones, Bohemian Grove, etc)

Armstrong's unwillingness to publish the 21 Inc revelation could be simply explained as it would blow a huge hole in his assertion there is no global coordination amongst the elite towards a NWO. But why would he resist this interpretation? Why would he resist a mea culpa? Perhaps the non-conspiratorial reason could be that he feels so strongly that the only way the world can avoid a Dark Age is to implement his proposed solution and he may feel that if the readers think TPTB are preordained then they won't work for the political solutions Armstrong has proposed.

But if Armstrong's life vocation has been about not ignoring data, then the above explanation makes no sense. Thus I return to Armstrong being a fraud as perhaps the only explanation that makes sense, but then that doesn't compute entirely either, because he was in jail for so many years against his will. Perhaps the one explanation that makes sense is that Armstrong's model is real but he was hypnotized and mind programmed while in SuperMax prison and now is incapable of thinking for himself on this issue of TPTB. Or that the circumstantial evidence about TPTB is not sufficient for Armstrong to falsify their existence and his overriding desire for a political solution allows him to justify ignoring some data  Huh

Interesting reading the following post from Ethereum's Vitalik. My design also attacks the same problem, but in a much more elegant and non-heuristic manner that is guaranteed to always avoid censorship.

https://blog.ethereum.org/2015/06/06/the-problem-of-censorship/

P.S. rpietila the Farrell video discusses the technology for anti-gravity at 32 minute mark. He also posits at the 57 minute mark that the amount of gold in world may be understated by an order-of-magnitude. I have not formed an assessment of this video yet.

Edit: the bearer bond issue towards the end of the Farrell video potentially has enormous implications on crypto-currency!
6865  Economy / Economics / Re: Economic Totalitarianism on: June 08, 2015, 01:55:06 PM
For those who don't believe there is a cabal:

https://archive.org/details/TaxExemptFoundationsTheEnemyWithin-NormanDoddDrStanMonteith

Princes of the Yen: Central Bank Truth Documentary 『円の支配者

http://billmoyers.com/episode/the-deep-state-hiding-in-plain-sight/

https://www.google.com/search?q=Anthony+Sutton

https://solari.com/blog/the-bilderbergers-with-dr-joseph-farrell/

https://solari.com/blog/solari-stories-the-black-budget/

Rumsfeld 2.3 Trillion Dollars missing Pentagon

$9,000,000,000,000 MISSING From The Federal Reserve SHOCKING FOOTAGE
6866  Economy / Speculation / Re: Can I predict the value of BTC/USD? on: June 08, 2015, 12:58:35 PM
PS: my other egregious attack on knowledge points to a link that I have not posted anything... Do you want to fix it / correct it?

It points to a quote of you and clicking the link of that quote takes the reader to your post immediately above mine and contains the context of your argument. Is that insufficient or did I misunderstand your grievance?

I will come back some other time to read and digest what you have written here. The theoretical is a lower priority for me at this moment for reasons you may be able to imagine. Thank you for your cordial reply.
6867  Economy / Economics / Re: Economic Totalitarianism on: June 08, 2015, 10:09:26 AM

The conspiratorial view is this can be used as a justification for martial law.

Armstrong's pandemic model expects one of some yet unspecified scale 2018ish. Should rear its head in 2017. He did also predict the current ebola epidemic would be contained and die down.
6868  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: June 08, 2015, 09:41:34 AM
The season you are born (climate in general) has MUCH to do with who you are (and not the stars).
Epigenome.

There are studies, bored to dig them up now, but it is very straightforward for people with evolutionary biology, epigenetics etc background.

Dude, our climate is from the Sun (a star)  Huh

If your choice of nickname is apt, then you should easily realize that.

I don't think he excluded that entirely. My assumption is he was arguing a direct correlation so as to give his argument maximum veracity here.

I look at language maybe like a programmer would their code, and using the operator "and not the stars" would, to me, exclude all stars from that set.

It is well known in computer science that syntax doesn't capture semantics. The semantics here is highly layered, so it is difficult to concisely express intent in syntax, because he is also dealing with politics and audience comprehension/belief.

What's poetry? What's musick?

A living, dynamic and reinterpretable interaction with the audience?


NOTICE: I am leaving this thread. Want to get some other things in my life done. Anyone can PM me if there is something important I need to read. Otherwise assume if I didn't reply, it is because I didn't read this thread again.


For those who don't believe there is a cabal:

https://archive.org/details/TaxExemptFoundationsTheEnemyWithin-NormanDoddDrStanMonteith

Princes of the Yen: Central Bank Truth Documentary 『円の支配者

http://billmoyers.com/episode/the-deep-state-hiding-in-plain-sight/

https://www.google.com/search?q=Anthony+Sutton

https://solari.com/blog/the-bilderbergers-with-dr-joseph-farrell/

https://solari.com/blog/solari-stories-the-black-budget/

Rumsfeld 2.3 Trillion Dollars missing Pentagon

$9,000,000,000,000 MISSING From The Federal Reserve SHOCKING FOOTAGE
6869  Economy / Economics / Re: Economic Devastation on: June 08, 2015, 09:11:58 AM
Korean kimchi. Again last night. Multiple Sclerosis going away. Hope it works for you too.

Camote, boiled fat green bananas, no grains. Copious protein, whole food fats, no nuts, and lots of raw greens. High dose vitamin D3 to feed the immune system while it is being repaired in the gut.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiVROBhwHUM&spfreload=10

This very brilliant guy Tellinger is advocating the society based on small communities that voluntarily send a part of their produce to the neighbors. Yet there is no money, no barter, no trade nor value involved.

It will become possible via higher consciousness, he says.

I say that even a higher consciousness cannot alleviate the economic calculation problem which makes it possible to construct a pencil, involving 80 phases of work, and sell it 12 for a dollar. The most important reason why we have money is to enable economic calculation and whenever someone ignores it yet talks about abundance, he does not know what he is talking about.

Tellinger says money is evil, I say the love of money is evil. Thoughts?

Astute of course.

Considering my eristic and aneristic observations, it seems that as soon as we can clear the obfuscation caused by fraudulent metrics of capital, capital will start flowing even faster to factories that make said "many things modern society requires" as people are freed to do what they Love, together.

I am also seeing the light more lately about the importance of giving back. Most of my learning required I adjust my preexisting perspective than the acquisition of new data (although in some dimension the two may not be distinct).

Hoarding capital with no purpose of giving back is dead capital and is re-awarded as in the Talents of the Parable.

Gates and Buffet are giving back through massive foundations, but appears to me that place too much emphasis on top-down management and thus are forced to choose projects with large economies-of-scale and apparently those sufficiently high economy-of-scale (to consume $billions) available correlate with NWO precepts (e.g. sterilization vaccinations in Africa). Point is that the Knowledge Age will require capital be distributed between more people in the upper % of the power law distribution. Thus vokain's point that we need to break the totalitarian grip the cartels have over the $millionaires. Monero may be one step in that direction.
6870  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: June 08, 2015, 09:06:29 AM
Korean kimchi. Again last night. Multiple Sclerosis going away. Hope it works for you too.

Camote, boiled fat green bananas, no grains. Copious protein, whole food fats, no nuts, and lots of raw greens. High dose vitamin D3 to feed the immune system while it is being repaired in the gut.
6871  Economy / Speculation / Re: Can I predict the value of BTC/USD? on: June 08, 2015, 09:02:27 AM
I mean that stars have nothing to do with the mechanisms astrology describes but of course a lot with the physics involved.

Pardon my ενγλις  Grin

The stars and everything else that go around in circles all follow a calendar, all together. It's all a mathematical pirouette.

http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/435:_Purity

But due to chaos theory we can't predict that the sun will rise tomorrow  Huh

(this is satire)
6872  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: June 08, 2015, 09:00:36 AM
I mean that stars have nothing to do with the mechanisms astrology describes but of course a lot with the physics involved.

Pardon my ενγλις  Grin

The stars and everything else that go around in circles all follow a calendar, all together. It's all a mathematical pirouette.

http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/435:_Purity

But due to chaos theory we can't predict that the sun will rise tomorrow  Huh

(this is satire)
6873  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: June 08, 2015, 08:57:59 AM
Pardon my ενγλις  Grin

Shit I am not a polygot much.
6874  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: June 08, 2015, 08:53:54 AM
The season you are born (climate in general) has MUCH to do with who you are (and not the stars).
Epigenome.

There are studies, bored to dig them up now, but it is very straightforward for people with evolutionary biology, epigenetics etc background.

Dude, our climate is from the Sun (a star)  Huh

If your choice of nickname is apt, then you should easily realize that.

I don't think he excluded that entirely. My assumption is he was arguing a direct correlation so as to give his argument maximum veracity here.

I look at language maybe like a programmer would their code, and using the operator "and not the stars" would, to me, exclude all stars from that set.

It is well known in computer science that syntax doesn't capture semantics. The semantics here is highly layered, so it is difficult to concisely express intent in syntax, because he is also dealing with politics and audience comprehension/belief.
6875  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: June 08, 2015, 08:47:40 AM
The season you are born (climate in general) has MUCH to do with who you are (and not the stars).
Epigenome.

There are studies, bored to dig them up now, but it is very straightforward for people with evolutionary biology, epigenetics etc background.

Dude, our climate is from the Sun (a star)  Huh

If your choice of nickname is apt, then you should easily realize that.

I don't think he excluded that entirely. My assumption is he was arguing a direct correlation so as to give his argument maximum veracity here.

Note we are all aware that correlation != causality.
6876  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: June 08, 2015, 08:38:41 AM
Fur the first  time in my history here I hit the ignore button before going to bed. I  think this is going to work  out.

Hi Führer, I really think that is for the best don't you?


I also thought astrology was bullshit. But as hard as I tried, I was proven wrong in my experience (now that isn't a double-blind survey but relativity can't be i.e. your experience may be different).


I'm not surprised at all. People (such as myself) who are drawn toconflate "conspiracy theories" with data correlation tend to be suspicious about everything except the most obvious fraudsassume that everything that can't be falsified within their (our) data set is a fraud (and should be ignored thus further limiting their <our> available armchair dataset in a self-reinforcing myopia).

ftfy

Now; lets make things simpler. Say we can set with a very good precision the initial conditions. We're now talking about a SIMPLE dynamic system here with fully determined initial conditions. Now pay attention: Even if you can set the initial conditions on such a system, small differences have a totally different outcome; so as the time goes by; your predictions are getting enormously difficult to be true, thus rendering the predictions useless. This system's behaviour is called "deterministic chaos" and was first observed by Edward Lorenz who defined it like this:

Chaos: When the present determines the future, but the approximate present does not approximately determine the future. 1

Implicit in your point is that we can not specify initial conditions with exact precision due to Planck's constant (which is intimately related to that the speed-of-light is finite and also conceptually related to the Heisenberg uncertainty principle).

That is all fine and dandy, except it is irrelevant to games of chance in real world outcomes. If it were true that no order emerged from chaos, then entropy would be simultaneously infinite (internally) and 0 (externally) and nothing could exist from an internal nor external perspective. The internal perspective would fail to find any relative order (no point of reference with which to make an observation) and the external observer would observe a void.

Order exists at higher levels of conceptualization. And this is your myopia on our disagreement about Armstrong's computer model and your other egregious attack on knowledge. I encourage you to delve into the links I gave you to Armstrong's writings about his model and chaos theory wherein he explains that moving to higher dimensions can extract order that is hidden in lower dimensional conceptualizations similar to your myopia here.

P.S. you are correct that the existing stochastic models employed are one-dimensional and thus don't have the scope to pull order out-of-chaos. Armstrong developed a multi-dimensional entropy stochastic model which extracts hidden order.
6877  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: June 08, 2015, 08:20:57 AM
Now; lets make things simpler. Say we can set with a very good precision the initial conditions. We're now talking about a SIMPLE dynamic system here with fully determined initial conditions. Now pay attention: Even if you can set the initial conditions on such a system, small differences have a totally different outcome; so as the time goes by; your predictions are getting enormously difficult to be true, thus rendering the predictions useless. This system's behaviour is called "deterministic chaos" and was first observed by Edward Lorenz who defined it like this:

Chaos: When the present determines the future, but the approximate present does not approximately determine the future. 1

Implicit in your point is that we can not specify initial conditions with exact precision due to Planck's constant (which is intimately related to that the speed-of-light is finite and also conceptually related to the Heisenberg uncertainty principle).

That is all fine and dandy, except it is irrelevant to games of chance in real world outcomes. If it were true that no order emerged from chaos, then entropy would be simultaneously infinite (internally) and 0 (externally) and nothing could exist from an internal nor external perspective. The internal perspective would fail to find any relative order (no point of reference with which to make an observation) and the external observer would observe a void.

Order exists at higher levels of conceptualization. And this is your myopia on our disagreement about Armstrong's computer model and your other egregious attack on knowledge. I encourage you to delve into the links I gave you to Armstrong's writings about his model and chaos theory wherein he explains that moving to higher dimensions can extract order that is hidden in lower dimensional conceptualizations similar to your myopia here.

P.S. you are correct that the existing stochastic models employed are one-dimensional and thus don't have the scope to pull order out-of-chaos. Armstrong developed a multi-dimensional entropy stochastic model which extracts hidden order.
6878  Economy / Speculation / Re: Can I predict the value of BTC/USD? on: June 08, 2015, 08:20:16 AM
Now; lets make things simpler. Say we can set with a very good precision the initial conditions. We're now talking about a SIMPLE dynamic system here with fully determined initial conditions. Now pay attention: Even if you can set the initial conditions on such a system, small differences have a totally different outcome; so as the time goes by; your predictions are getting enormously difficult to be true, thus rendering the predictions useless. This system's behaviour is called "deterministic chaos" and was first observed by Edward Lorenz who defined it like this:

Chaos: When the present determines the future, but the approximate present does not approximately determine the future. 1

Implicit in your point is that we can not specify initial conditions with exact precision due to Planck's constant (which is intimately related to that the speed-of-light is finite and also conceptually related to the Heisenberg uncertainty principle).

That is all fine and dandy, except it is irrelevant to games of chance in real world outcomes. If it were true that no order emerged from chaos, then entropy would be simultaneously infinite (internally) and 0 (externally) and nothing could exist from an internal nor external perspective. The internal perspective would fail to find any relative order (no point of reference with which to make an observation) and the external observer would observe a void.

Order exists at higher levels of conceptualization. And this is your myopia on our disagreement about Armstrong's computer model and your other egregious attack on knowledge. I encourage you to delve into the links I gave you upthread to Armstrong's writings about his model and chaos theory wherein he explains that moving to higher dimensions can extract order that is hidden in lower dimensional conceptualizations similar to your myopia here.

P.S. you are correct that the existing stochastic models employed are one-dimensional and thus don't have the scope to pull order out-of-chaos. Armstrong developed a multi-dimensional entropy stochastic model which extracts hidden order.
6879  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: June 08, 2015, 07:53:25 AM
MPEX may have invented the GavinCoin Short, but it will be far from the only exchange using it to nuke the Gavinstas' trollfork from space.

The same WMD can be used against Core too. This could be mutual annihilation (reverse wealth effect, which is levered) as you have mentioned. Or one fork could gain momentum and avalanche effect.

Again I would sell BTC for XMR or dollars immediately. I own no XMR and I keep a small amount of BTC because I can't spend XMR easily (or at least hasn't been worth it for me to figure out how).

I do intend to hold most of my wealth in crypto-coin in the near future. XMR will part of my holdings. BTC probably not.
6880  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: June 08, 2015, 07:51:26 AM
That comment is at best unclear except for the content-free insults, and at worst incoherent and rambling in the frothy manner of a crank like Anonymint.

Ain't it nice that you admit you can't comprehend. At least you didn't dishonestly accuse me of being context-free and you admitted you just can't wrap your mind about my logic. There are numerous possible reasons for this effect.
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