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6921  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling destitute on: March 26, 2019, 11:39:43 PM
It is true that gambling is not the proper way to be rich, it is a way to be destitute. Even if there are some gamblers can be a millionaire, we must remember that most of them got it out of luck. The chance to win in gambling is rather hard, so it is better to have self-control to avoid losses. In fact, many gamblers become destitute because of no self-control and forgot that gambling is only for fun. So, it is very important to make our selves aware that the main purpose of playing gambling is not for money, but for fun only.
6922  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How does online gambling operations manage gambling addiction? on: March 26, 2019, 11:28:55 PM
~snip~ The main problem, most gamblers are not admitting that they are addicted. ~snip~
I agree with you. Most of them are not aware if they have already addicted to gambling. While others refuse to get treatment from counseling and advisors. These cases need big support from their families, especially from parents, wives or husbands. They should ensure the addicted gamblers to consult or get special treatment. Besides then, the role of the advisor or consultant determines the result.  
6923  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Fake Volume Trading Bitcoin on: March 26, 2019, 11:44:15 AM
~snip~ yang mana poin ke 4 ( berdasarkan tulisan mas ) tidak tepat kalau disebut FAKE karena memang adanya transaksi, mungkin lebih tepat kalau disebut manipulasi yang dilakukan oleh individu atau kelompok.
~snip~

Oke. Saya paham maksud agan.  Wink

IMHO : Sebenarnya gan, aktifitas tradingnya itu bisa juga dibilang fake. Kenapa? Karena orang menyangka bahwa aktifitas trading tersebut dilakukan banyak orang, tapi pada kenyataannya hanya satu (1) orang saja. Fake di sini ada pada banyaknya seller dan buyer yang melakukan trading.
BTW untuk masalah volumenya, jika yang bermain manipulasi di sini adalah orang luar exchange, saya yakin bahwa volumenya mungkin real. Tapi jika orang exchange tersebut sendiri yang memanipulasi, bisa saja jumlah BTC dari sell-buy dibuat fake.
6924  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Fake Volume Trading Bitcoin on: March 26, 2019, 10:10:03 AM
Fake trading volume yang mas jabarkan sedikit ambigu. point 1-3 menytakan kalau fake itu tidak ada real transaksi . sedangkan poin 4 menyatakan adanya real  transaksi jual beli yang di lakukan oleh whale trader umumny menggunakan robot trading. ~snip~
Cek dulu sub judulnya gan --> "Inti berita tersebut adalah sebagai berikut :".
Jadi poin 1 - 4 itu bukanlah ciri-ciri dari Fake trading. Tapi itu adalah isi berita terkait penemuan Bitwise tentang fake volume trading BTC pada banyak exchange. Asal beritanya saya cantumkan pada "Sumber". Silahkan agan cek dulu.  Wink

~snip~
Kesimpulanny, apakah cryptocurrency bisa di manipulasi oleh sekelompok kecil orang? jawabanny bisa sekali
Yupz. Saya setuju dengan yang ini. Berita di atas sebagai contohnya. Trading BTC terbukti bisa dimanipulasi.
6925  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: [LOG] List Member Board Indonesia by BPIP on: March 26, 2019, 09:39:31 AM
~snip~Mulai sekarang ane mau muter muter lagi dah ini board indo biar lebih paham dan bisa lebih berkontribusi lagi buat orang2 indo khususnya

Mantap Om Apriand. Saya mendukung sekali niat baik Om untuk berkontribusi di lokal board Indonesia. Kalo ada tips2 atau ilmu terkait crypto dan forum, mungkin bisa share sesekali Om. BTW, semoga istikomah ya Om.  Cheesy
6926  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Fake Volume Trading Bitcoin on: March 26, 2019, 09:05:08 AM
Belum lama ini, ada berita menarik dari Bitwise. Berita tersebut berkaitan dengan volume trading BTC pada exchange-exchange yang ada.

Inti berita tersebut adalah sebagai berikut :

1. Bitwise menemukan fakta bahwa sekitar 95% volume trading BTC adalah fake [palsu].

2. Volume trading Bitcoin per harinya menunjukkan angka dikisaran $6 miliar. Padahal faktanya jumlah realnya hanya sekitar $237 juta.

3. Sebanyak 71 exchange dari total 81 exchange, melakukan manipulasi trading Bitcoin.

Hanya 10 exchange yang bisa dipercaya volume trading Bitcoinnya. [Menurut Bitwise]



4. Terindikasi bahwa buy-sell Bitcoin pada exchange tertentu, dilakukan oleh 1 orang yang sama.

Sumber :
1. https://coinvestasi.com/berita/95-perdagangan-bitcoin-palsu/
2. https://www.forbes.com/sites/cbovaird/2019/03/22/95-of-reported-bitcoin-trading-volume-is-fake-says-bitwise/#f1be99767175



Ada 2 pertanyaan yang saya pikirkan dari fakta di atas.  

1. Apakah yang kemungkinan memanipulasi tersebut adalah orang internal Exchange tersebut?
2. Apakah ini adalah the real action dari seorang Whale?

Note :
Saya sebenarnya menyimpulkan bahwa inilah sebenarnya real action dari whales. Yang selama ini banyak yang bilang kalau harga koin crypto bisa dimanipulasi whales. Tapi tentu saya tidak menyimpulkan secara instan. Monggo jika ada yang punya pendapat lain, mungkin ada yang lebih "make sense".  Wink
6927  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: HOW DO WE INCREASE THE VALUE OF CRYPTOCURRENCIES? on: March 26, 2019, 07:12:03 AM
Actually, we cannot increase the value of the cryptocurrencies if the crypto itself doesn't offer good value.
Well, so far, many coins have the same concept and ideas as the other listed on the market, they sometimes also offer the non-real products crypto for the future. It will make us difficult to increase their value, moreover, they have very low volume after listed on the exchange.
First, we must have the right coins with unique, real, interesting, and also promising products for the future. Then, ensure that all the team behind are always active in order to help to manage the coin development.
Make better promotion and ways to ensure the volume always increasing on the market. Then, never become part of panic selling who will sell off their coins at a very low price.
6928  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Am done with KYC on: March 26, 2019, 06:56:12 AM
I have ever heard some people said that the bounty programs that need KYC will be very promising.
In this case, I don't think so, not all of them are successful and give me tokens or coins.
I also have such experience, more than 3 times fulfilling KYC process and I got nothing.
Now, I will think twice when I should fulfill the KYC process if needed, whether it is really true or not, worthy or not, and also ready for exchange or not. We need clear information and we may not need to wait for a very long time later for listing on the exchange.
6929  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Mark Zuckerberg talking about blockchain on: March 26, 2019, 06:47:39 AM
First, I don't know why I cannot open this link site, it is always error.
Second, I think that this is not the first time for me hearing about the news of Facebook going to release the cryptocurrency.
It is actually a common when a professional person like Mark Zuckerberg talking about blockchain, he is one of the people who always keep in tocuh with the technology.
That is why it may be one of his way to offer more interesting thing for Facebook. But, let's see how the progress of this news.
6930  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: DO WE REALLY NEED MORE STABLE COINS? on: March 26, 2019, 06:40:49 AM
Actually, there are some positive and negative sides of the stable coins.
However, so far, what makes many people interested to invest in cryptocurrency is about the volatile characteristics, that can lead them to gain more profits. The presence of stable coins may be the choice when the bear market is happening, it can decrease the consequences of losing more money. However, on the other sides, when it is bullrun someday, how's about the value of stable coins?
However, yeah, stable coins may be also needed in order to be a certain transaction or financial system.
6931  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: [DISKUSI] Harga Bitcoin on: March 26, 2019, 05:36:35 AM
Harga bitcoin mungkin hanya bisa menetap $3700 - $4100 (sekitar 52juta - 60juta), berdasarkan resistance support saat ini.~snip~
"Mungkin hanya bisa menetap $3700 - $4100" maksudnya apa bro? Apa maksud enete "untuk sementara bertahan pada kisaran $3,700 - $4,100"?
BTW, durasi waktu yang ente pakai kapan sampai kapan bro? Sebaiknya dilengkapi dengan keterangan waktunya, biar kita paham harga tersebut merujuk ke mana dan kapan.

Contoh : Kalo berdasarkan history harga BTC sekitar satu mingguan ini, harganya cukup stabil di kisaran $3,900 - $4,000.
Kita bisa melihat historinya pada gambar di bawah ini. [Durasi waktu yang diambil Mar 17, 2019 - Mar 25, 2019]



Sumber : https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin/historical-data/

~snip~ Andai saja bitcoin ini tidak dijadikan sebuah alat scam pada tahun 2018 yang menyebabkan anjloknya harga, dan lain lainnya, mungkin harga bitcoin masih bisa naik lagi.
~snip~
Siapa yang tau bro. Kita tidak bisa menjamin harganya bakal terus naik jika tidak ada faktor "scam" tersebut. Di dalam dunia crypto, segalanya bisa saja terjadi diluar dugaan. Karena pada prinsipnya berjalan secara desentralisasi, atau tidak ada yang mengontrol, termasuk masalah harga. Jadi kita tidak bisa menyalahkan scam sebagai penyebab utama.

~snip~
Para investor juga makin ngeri sendiri kalau masalah ini belum diselesaikan, maka dari itu harga semakin turun dan penolakan bitcoin semakin banyak juga.
Penolakan seperti apa bro? Mungkin bisa ente kasih link jika ada contoh beritanya. Sejauh ini yang saya tau justru adopsi Bitcoin semakin baik.
Bahkan beberapa expert yang berpendapat positif terkait perkembangan Bitcoin di tahun ini.

Sumber terkait prediksi Expert mengenai BTC di 2019 :
https://thenextweb.com/hardfork/2019/02/05/8-expert-insights-on-what-will-happen-with-bitcoin-in-2019/
6932  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: (Parah) Berikut adalah 9 Cara Kerja Seorang Scammer ! on: March 26, 2019, 12:22:30 AM
Beberapa hari ini saya dapat email untuk confirmasi, tapi saya tidak daftar di web tersebut, apa itu juga termasuk scammer atau apa? Mohon bantuannya

Ada baiknya kalo disertakan foto screenshootnya gan. Biar kita bisa tau seperti apa email tersebut.
Kalo menurut saya, yang jelas agan bisa cek beberapa hal dari email tersebut jika agan penasaran apakah scammer atau bukan.

Secara sederhana berikut adalah analisa minimal terhadap email tersebut :

1. Cek pengirim email tersebut.
Cek email tersebut apakah benar berasal dari sumber yang tepat. Misal itu adalah promosi atau penawaran dari EOS, apakah itu benar alamat email yang tercantum resmi pada platform EOS. Lakukan cross-ceck atau cocokan dengan email yang tertera di website resmi EOS.

2. Cek kebenaran isi dari email terebut.
Cek apakah itu berita yang benar atau tidak. Misal itu penawaran dari EOS, maka cek di website atau sosmed EOS apakah itu benar-benar fakta atau bukan.

3. Apakah penawaran dari email tersebut masuk akal atau tidak.
Jangan gampang terpengaruh terhadap iming-iming kerjasama, hadiah, atau uang yang ditawarkan. Sebagai individu yang berkecimpung di dunia crypto, harusnya kita cukup tau terhadap mana penawaran yang masuk akal dan mana yang tidak. Tidak ada hadiah besar dengan effort yang instant dan terbilang mudah. Atau mendapatkan uang yang besar dengan hanya mengumpulkan data atau mengirim sejumlah koin yang nominalnya jauh lebih kecil dengan yang dijanjikan. [Let's think smart to avoid scammers]



Berikut ada 2 contoh pesan email yang saya curigai berasal dari scammer. Pesan tersebut dikirim sebanyak 2 kali ke email pribadi saya.

1. Email yang Pertama

   

2. Email yang ke dua

   

Analisa sederhana terhadap 2 email di atas :

1. Pengirim seharusnya dari email resmi EOS. Email resmi yang tertera di platform EOS : support@block.one, developers@block.one, media@block.one, events@block.one, dan vc@block.one.

2. Saya rasa pengiriman email bukan cara yang tepat untuk mengiklankan Airdrop. Saya pertanyakan efektifitas dari pengiklanan dengan cara ini. [no sense]

3. Mencari real customer dengan pengiriman pesan ke random people adalah sangat tidak efektif. Tentu hanya akan menghabiskan waktu dan tenaga secara percuma. [no sense]

4. Monggo ditambahkan jika ada analisa lain.  Wink
6933  Economy / Services / Re: [CFNP]Rocket.run Signature Campaign | Full Members - Legendary | Up to 0.0165BTC on: March 25, 2019, 02:59:53 PM
First weeks payments have been sent out! ~snip~
Thank you so much Hhampuz and Rocket.Run, BTC payment has received.

~snip~ Please wish the best for my mother's speedy recovery.
I wish she will get a speed recovery, bro.
6934  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Is $25 XLM worth your privacy (identify). on: March 25, 2019, 02:34:13 PM
I was one of the people who fulfilled the KYC process to get $25 XRP. I sent my ID and then got my rewards. Well, that was actually not really worthy. However, I don't know why I believe that site and then offer my ID. Yeah, maybe it is better to be more careful in the future in order to check and re-check again the programs with the KYC process to be fulfilled. It can be also a lesson for us, more careful and considerable when going to offer our KYC ID to get some rewards.
6935  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Interesting Strategy on dice featured Gambling on: March 25, 2019, 01:28:17 PM
Actually, I never use yet this kind of strategy in rolling dice.
Well, I'm also rare to play this because I always have the bad luck and lose..  Grin Grin Grin
That's why never trying it again.
But, does it really work well on every roll? or, this is only the factor of luck of yours?
I'm a little bit curious if it is only based on the luck, it may be one of the hidden strategies?
Well, if you share this and many more people try this strategy, it may not work again.
6936  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling.. way to loss on: March 25, 2019, 06:20:12 AM
We also know that Gambling is one of the fastest selling tokens or coins for sale so far.
Many people are interested in offering from gambling sites and operations.
Well, as you said, gambling really can give double profits in a short time for their players.
However, unfortunately, this is also one of the easiest ways to lose money in a short time when losing in betting.
It means that gambling needs special ability, consideration, strategy, right decision, and also sometimes luck.
We must be aware that playing in gambling will give us high risks, but if we have understood, it means a challenge for many people to win.
6937  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Solid Reasons to Invest in Cryptocurrencies in 2019 on: March 25, 2019, 06:12:46 AM
Well, those 5 reasons are the most common ways for us to ensure entering in the crypto world.
However, there should be also certain specific ways to know which cryptocurrencies that we should invest in 2019.
For, many coins are failed, dumped, and also being shitcoins after they are listed on the exchanges.
I will not give bad news, but this is a fact.
That is why we must be careful when going to invest in cryptocurrencies in 2019.
Analyzing the concept behind the cryptocurrencies, team, how they survive, volume, token allocation, and also what products to be offered will be helpful for us. It can determine how worthy the coins will survive in this bear market to reach higher market place in the future.
6938  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: "BOUNTIES" Is it still worth it? on: March 25, 2019, 06:03:06 AM
Joining bounty since the second quarter of 2018 until now is very decreasing and not optimal enough. Many bounty hunters are not paid or they have shitcoins after the tokens or coins listed on the certain exchanges have the real dump price.
However, there is still some worthy bounty that we can follow. One of them is the bounty with the top listed coins as the rewards, such as BTC, ETH, or XRP.
Those kinds of rewards may be not as much as the amount if we count from the token bounty, however, they are worthier, whenever we need to sell.
That is why, try to find that kind of bounty rewards, keep struggling to make the qualified postings and account.
Just be also careful when going to choose certain bounty to participate.
6939  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Forums and Social Media Communities on: March 25, 2019, 05:55:39 AM
So far, the best forum to gain and integrate the completed information and its development of the Bitcoin is this bitcointalk forum. It has a specific session to talk about the discussion of BTC and more also about other cryptocurrencies.
Besides, Reddit is also another source that will give us updated news around the world. We can find out much information and discussion about BTC specifically.
If on social media, I think I only focus on the telegram group of bitcoin and trading discussion.
6940  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The future of Bitcoin as a sustainable currency. on: March 25, 2019, 05:48:19 AM
So far, the use of Bitcoin is mostly for investment only and getting profits from trading or some.
But yeah, all we know that it is also used for illegal transaction around the world that always becomes the bad issues about Bitcoin.
Actually, today, some industries and companies also accept this cryptocurrency as one of their payment methods, however, they are very limited in some certain countries. It is probably because many countries still forbid the use of cryptocurrency.
So far, the presence of Bitcoin ATM in some new countries may be also a good follow up to make the utility of this coin better than previously.
I believe that along time, Bitcoin can be really part of the sustainable currency worldwide.
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