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6981  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Americans, do you regret voting for Biden? on: June 03, 2022, 12:25:44 AM
I am not American and not that much interested in their politics but since Russia started a war with Ukraine, I read the news very often and it can't seem strange if I say that I see Joe Biden very frequently on TV and social media.
When I watch this man, it's very clear that he is very old for his job and probably he suffers from Dementia. Sometimes he forgets what he wants to say, sometimes he forgets what he was actually saying and sometimes he calls Iranians to Ukrainian people.

I can't believe that in American there weren't better alternatives than Joe Biden. What was wrong with Trump that made you to choose president with Dementia?

Meet the "new boss same as the old boss"


Biden vs Trump has no meaning.

All politics are is a version of the WWF a show. If you get caught up in the show and pick a side you allow the real

manipulators  to pick your pockets.

Russia vs USA over Ukraine

is all a show to simply make fuel go to high prices.

Both USA and Russia are mere pawns in the hands of behind the scenes movers and what is gasoline up to in the USA oh $6.99 for premium .

Mission was accomplished.

The side thing is these fuckers are killing decent people for the $ or the Ruble.
6982  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 02, 2022, 06:35:24 PM
$30,000 definitely feels like the $6,000 point in 2018. We’re just here chilling, thinking this is the bottom & we can’t go any lower. I hope it is but if we test the lows I am going to buy with all I have.

Interesting times!

True, but...  $3k was not supposed to happen: it was caused by a black swan event when sort of a flash crash happened and we were back to ~$6k soon. So quite possible $6k was the true bottom. We will certainly never find out. Atm I don't see how we can go lower than $25k without something really apocalyptic like "US bans Bitcoin" which is btw totally possible because of the latest news of Russia embracing BTC. There's always old good zombie apocalypse for sure too...  Grin Grin Grin

I prefer Alien 👽 space invasion.
6983  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Quiet [40 dB, 8 THs/500 W] Hotmine Convector Miner. Product Overview on: June 02, 2022, 06:32:27 PM
I think it pays for itself in 24 months if you consider the electric bill as if it where a regular space heater cost.

Something to ponder.

30 months = 900 days x 2.30 usd a day = 1860  so if you need to use a space heater 24/7/365

it pays off in 30 months.  if you need it ½ the year it takes 60 months.

not counting  diff and coin price.
Heh - not a chance in hell any miner like this would still be making money in 30 months from now.

If your goal is to just make money, then there's plenty of altcoins to be mined with way lower difficulty (and payoff) than BTC.

It's a bit altcoin territory but you can always point your miner to cheaper coins that pay less for lower hashes, proportionally...

This would have been good gear if they released in in Dec 2019 they did not.

I do not understand why you woke the thread up ⬆️ to post your comments as they do not seem to belong.

I never saw any of these mining ⛏ anywhere on the net.
6984  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: What's stopping companies making an actual space heater bitcoin miner for home? on: June 02, 2022, 06:21:06 PM
I think the problem for me would be what do you do with your space heater once it becomes worthless for mining?  With graphics cards you have a strong market of computer users and gamers that will buy pretty much any GPU you can find, so there's always another angle at resale.  I doubt you'd be able to find someone willing to pay for a subpar space heater that doubles as a non-profitable mining device.  

So to answer your question I would say that competition from GPUs is a good reason why a Bitcoin mining space heater would never work.  It would be a very small use case for someone who would want one of them.  Maybe people with free electricity that live somewhere cold and don't own a computer?  I'm guessing that's a pretty limited market for a Bitcoin space heater miner (what Bitcoiner doesn't own a computer?).

Well in a college dorm a one board s9 set to 3th would run for free. And is very cheap to do.

burns 270- 300 watts and since a dorm is basically free power  why not?
6985  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: What's stopping companies making an actual space heater bitcoin miner for home? on: June 02, 2022, 02:26:02 PM
hmm, I don't think the number of chips is relevant to cooling, see I am not a thermodynamics expert by any means, but my understanding is that heat is just a form of energy, so when "electrical energy" passes through the chips of the miner it will convert to " heat energy" of the same amount, so a 1000watts electrical energy will always create a 1000 joule regardless of how that  "electrical energy" is being utilized.

You are right about using more efficient chips at the best efficiency you can squeeze of them, but that will only allow you to get more hashrate for the same amount of heat, but consuming 2000w will always generate 2000j worth of heat, now it's up to you if you want to move the heat away or keep it inside the miner to get some siclon sauce, but you can't possibly cool a 2000w miner without noisy fans.

Of course, if you push 1000w in any kind of system you will get the same amount of heat but I had the impression that when it comes to heat generation and transfer you could play with sizes, having chips further part larger heatsinks and more boards, rather than concentrating the heat source you could spread it out wider, so instead of a 15x15x35 miner you could go for the size of an air convertor, overall the same hashrate, the same heat transfer but done over a larger area, thus the reducing airspeed needed and the noise.
100x10W sources would be the same as 10x100W but spread over a 1x1m wall heater they would be easier to cool with normal speed fans.






you can run three one board s9s in three rooms. clock them to 3 th each use 1 fan per machine with brains.

you would have three heaters using 270 watts. or 810 x 24 = say 20 kwatts . they are quiet.

so in the winter my 14 cent power and the benefit of the heat means they cost me 2 bucks a day . and earn 9 x 12 = 1.08 net loss of
92 cents. but if you need the space heaters and were running 3 space heaters on low you power cost is zero.

If I had more time and energy I would look into running a one board s15 or a one board s17.

I mostly do gpus in the house as gpus earn more $$ per watt and can be quiet.
6986  Bitcoin / Wallet software / Re: mynode rasp pi 4 builds and comparisons on: June 02, 2022, 01:40:41 AM
...................
When I do the dell micro build  with a vm I will post results.
OK, aren't you done now ?

I never did it.

My thought on LN is to not be involved at doing it for this time.

I have too much on my plate mining and running that business and also caring for my bro-in-law Frank as he is suffering from vascular dementia.
I spend far too much time on the farm and him to be able to do the testing and development I wanted to do with this.
Life sometimes does this to all of us. It simply makes a shift in the plans the only way to go.

thank you so much for the response.

A long time ago there was a great fedex commercial the "star" of it promises everyone "I can do that" he then gets a lull in all the calls sits asks and asks : "How am I going to do all that?" the answer = Fedex



I have been in that spot since July 31 2021 when my bro-in-law had the stroke giving him vascular dementia. But no fedex for my bro-in-law

6987  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 02, 2022, 01:26:35 AM
someone needs to cut a piece off buddy and graft a number 3

watch it, phil. u get baned for threatening to dismember the robot.

Newbie question here:  Is it prohibited to threaten or extort ChartBuddy?

Nope upgrading and modding the bot. is okay. Shredding buddy is a no-no.
6988  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 02, 2022, 01:08:40 AM
someone needs to cut a piece off buddy and graft a number 3

ie change 29k to 39k
6989  Other / Meta / Re: My 100 days on Bitcointalk on: June 02, 2022, 01:05:16 AM
It's time to edit the fifth item on the list.
5) I discovered 60+ Scam projects: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5181153
5) I discovered 100+ Scam projects: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5181153

Nice work.

I will be looking for you to find 250 by Jan 1 2021.
Gives you about 375 real time days to do it.

Done

If we do not take into account the amount of time it took me to complete this task, then we can state the fact that this task has been completed. Nevertheless, it gives me moral satisfaction that there are 250 fewer Scam projects on Bitcointalk.

DateProject nameLink to accusationReason of accusationWarning Flag






250.27/05/2022Wallaz.onlineLinkPonziflag=2969

very nice 250 is  way more than me.

You have done a ton of good work.

I am happy the mods came to their senses years ago when they fixed the ban issue.

You make me look good for supporting you.
6990  Other / Meta / Re: Bitcointalk Merit Dashboard on: June 02, 2022, 12:57:12 AM


Give it a go and let's see if it works as intended ...


It works.
It's not so simple to create a pivot as intended, but I'm working on it.
Due to  the empty bottle of wine exceptional circumstances I won't be able to produce it by tonight, but I'm going to work something out.

Well I just knocked off a bottle of red cab so I feel you.
6991  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Death of Etheruem mining - Predicitions on: June 01, 2022, 11:45:13 PM
Have they decided upon the block numbers already?

Not yet.

In the discussion on drafting the EIP those devs who wanted to delay the bomb were advised to simply copy the last bomb delay EIP and adjust the block offset value to add 400,000 blocks. This value may change, so we'll have to wait for the EIP to be published.

wow, that's why odds on "By 1st September" dropped from like +105 to -150
Merge is indeed coming in Agusut  Shocked

Its simple they will push it out if coin is over 2k

They will let it happen if coin is under 1k

the gray zone is 1-2k
6992  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 01, 2022, 11:40:19 PM
BREAKING | Johnny Depp wins defamation trial against Amber Heard; Court Awards Johnny Depp $15M 497.05 BTC in damages in Defamation Case Verdict

Finally some justice in this otherwise dark world.

15 to 2

reduced  to 10 to 2

My wife and I watched a lot.

I wanted more like 25 mill to 1 mill or 25 to 1

but they clearly sided with Depp.

If she appeals he can simply say rather than disgrace the true why me women in the world I will do no contest on the appeal give her the 2 mill and donate 7 mill to the 2 charities she stiffed along with giving 3 mill to real women victims of abuse.

Amber is pretty much dead to the world and should crawl into her hell hole and shut the f up.

fini bitch.
6993  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Technical reasons to not solo mine to an exchange address on: June 01, 2022, 10:59:14 PM
Well hitting a block is a $185,000 - $200,000 event.
I would say only 2 or 3 exchanges are safe enough to hold this for you.

Next use a trezor or what ever say a core wallet.

Generate a virgin address. It the coins hit no one know your business. This is bigly huge vast edge.
6994  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: How bad can it get? on: June 01, 2022, 07:01:56 PM
destruction then prosperity and so on and you can win big both ways, playing both sides.
Smart miners have a plan to make profit because they have saved up acorns during the good times, which they can spend soon to buy a boatload of equipment for cheap. They have enough fiat saved up to pay the power bill during the coming hard times. They never paid over MSRP for the equipment and started paying off all loans when the price lost momentum in June 2021.

Dumb miners bought all their GPUs on credit (or leveraged their ASICs). They paid above MSRP for the equipment in the middle of the bull market rather than the beginning. They didn't sell any coin during the bull market, or worse, they levered the coins to buy even more equipment at inflated prices. Now they have no cash reserve to fall back on when profit goes to zero. The only way they can pay even half of the credit cards is to liquidate everything.

this overpriced cards (hefty profits) is addicting to them, see that intel has joined the club. they will create/plan something to keep this "economy" alive.
It would take years for a new GPU PoW coin to reach the same market cap as ETH, even if these manufacturers got lucky and somehow launched a currency that users/investors had confidence in. So this is a long-term play, not something that can prop up the mining market now.

Even if you can simply turn some gear off for a  few months.

 Say your older gear 1080ti's
6995  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 01, 2022, 04:16:31 AM
Regarding your various points that seem to belong in the meta section of the forum, I find those kinds of comments less offensive than bringing up shitcoins (or moreso pumping shitcoins without any legitimate connection to bitcoin) in this thread, though I would imagine that there is a pretty decent (perhaps overwhelming) majority of WO regulars who don't want to see very much meta in the WO.. perhaps a reference here or there is going to be tolerable, but long meta rants is not likely to win you too many friends.. I probably won't complain too much about it, yet I will probably blow with the winds if other guys are complaining about it.. which seems quite likely to me... seen it several times previously..

I did not raise off-topic questions about my identity—a topic that I do not wish to discuss at all.  It has been raised here by multiple persons other than myself—repeatedly, persistently—sometimes jovially, but in one case with extreme and unwarranted hostility.

I think it was fully appropriate for me to reply to that once in the same place where the issue was raised:  The Wall Observer.  Insofar as I am concerned, that disposes the matter:  I have no wish to discuss it further—not in WO, not in Reputation, not anywhere.

Mention of altcoins was contextual.  I was not “pumping shitcoins”—and you will note, I didn’t mention which altcoins I hold or have held with favorable results.  It’s hard to pump something without saying what it is!  I think my point was clear in the context:  So, is nullius a secret altcoiner?  It is a rhetorical question.

A better theory:  Vladimir Putin personally inserted a microchip into my brain, which made me trade on margin.  This caused me to lose my BTC, so that Russia could buy it cheap from the liquidator bot.  I blame Russia.  

Personally, I give less than two shits about some of the politics, except sure sometimes they do get embedded into our conversation, and we know that there is misinformation coming from several angles regarding various aspects of the Ukraine conflict - and it is likely not going to go away, so I am probably exaggerating a wee bit when I say that I do not give two shits about politics because it is difficult to escape.. but at the same time death-wish, you have to take responsibility for your own actions in regards to your BTC portfolio management - and surely you admit mistakes were made.. and hopefully you learn enough of a lesson to minimize any further damages.

That internal quotation (here unmodified) is wildly out of context.  I believe it’s quite clear that I was waxing satirical, for reasons that had nothing to do with my personal finances.

With regard to your statement that I rendered in bold, I want to emphasize for the record that I originally created this death_wish account with three consciously articulated motives:

  • To seek last-minute advice trying to extricate myself from a mess.  I already knew that absent a sudden, lucky turnaround in the market, it was far too late for me; but I was understandably desperate!
  • To vent.  I think that most people will understand that I am apparently a human being, and humans who lose >90% of their assets do sometimes want to vent in appropriate venues.  WO seems like exactly the appropriate place for me to say, “Oh no, look at how badly I just fouled things up” and everyone else can say, “Wow, you fouled things up so badly!  Rekt!  Don’t buy on margin!”
  • To give a warning to others.  Even at the cost of some humiliation to myself.

I have spent years telling people not to buy on margin.  I have mentioned in several of my previous posts (and much more in a bunch of anguished outpourings I wrote but didn’t post), I made stupid mistakes that I warn others against.  My very first post under the intentionally melodramatic moniker death_wish was designed to drive the point home graphically.  Some of my recent weeping and wailing with prayers for Bitcoin’s forgiveness is intentionally over-the-top, for the same purpose.

DO NOT DO WHAT I DID.  Which I spent years saying not to do.  Which I then did.  No, really:  DON’T DO IT!

I am inevitably miserable about my losses.  I do not customarily wallow publicly in my sorrows.  It is embarrassing.  But I think that it’s important to warn others.  And I think that the entire record of my post history makes it excruciatingly clear, I absolutely take responsibility for my own decisions—and for the consequences thereof.  I don’t see how my writings could be read otherwise.

[...] and get the fuck out of shitcoins, especially since you have already shown that you do not seem to know what the fuck you are doing... [...]

I do not desire to debate that in WO.  It is not the right venue.  I mentioned it in another context, with the rhetorical purpose stated above.  I also mentioned that I did just fine for years, until I tried margin.  Margin wreckage lost me BTC that I had attained from altcoin profits.

I do not recommend altcoin trading to others.  I am not some Twitter-buyer chasing moons, a.k.a. retail fresh meat in the VC slaughterhouse.  There is no “get rich quick”.  Whatever I do requires patience, intelligence, and information not sourced from hot tips on social media.  Elaborating would be off-topic in WO—and I am uninterested in chatting about it, anyway.  But yes, I do know what I am doing.

On a general note, as I have mentioned before, it would be inadvisable to attempt subjecting me to some sort of a Bitcoin purity-test.  I’ll win that one.

[...] even though you do happen to recognize and appreciate bitcoin's bullish case and its fundamentals.. so stay focused there first and don't get distracted into either shitcoins or margin until you get your BTC stash sufficiently rebuilt and maybe even overallocated (which surely could take you 4-10 years if you have already ended up losing a bunch).

This is not the first time that I have rebuilt financially.  Previously, my personal wreckage was caused by severe IRL adversity which was not my fault, which is nobody’s business, and which I do not wish to discuss.  It took me five years of patient effort to rebuild what I just lost.  And this time, it will be harder because BTC is so high—and this time, I wrecked my own damnfool self.  Yes, I know what lies ahead of me.

Sorry.. my patronizing lil selfie could not help but to make some of those commentaries in regards to both your representation of taking responsibility [...]

I don’t know how you misinterpreted that.  Nothing that I have said could be read as other than, “How could I do something so stupid—I messed this up big time!”

I’m sure your patronizing lil selfie read this, since you gave it a merit weeks ago:

To avoid accusations of deficient IQ tantamount to mental retardation, I plead a bout of temporary insanity.  Do I know better than to do this?  Yes, I do.  Why did I do it - why, why, why!?  I have asked myself that many times, after I got in too deeply to get out fast without drastic losses.  Chalk it up to temptation, starting with a little bit of something really safe ("lol, I can survive a crash even to $10k!"), then one thing leading to another as the account spins out of control.

With full gratitude for your earnest attempts to help me get out of a bad situation when it was far too late, I do request that you be more careful in representing what I have written here.  Context is important, and I have never tried to evade responsibility for my own actions.  After all, this is why I am in Bitcoin to begin with:  My money is my money!

Unlike some people in (ahem) the Speculation forum, I was not initially drawn to Bitcoin by the prospect of profits.  I only learned about that part after I was already in BTC.  I am in this first and foremost for principles.  I have a cordial contempt for “Bitcoin investors” who are in it only for the money—cordial, because I appreciate that their investments help to empower my noblest of principles—contempt, because their motives are venal.  I care about Bitcoin.

Naturally, I want for Bitcoin investors to get rich.  It is their condign reward for supporting Bitcoin.  But I know that they do not care for Bitcoin, as I do.

My principles:  I do not want for anyone else to take responsibility for my financial decisions!  That would mean permissioned systems:  Restrictions on how I use “my” money.  KYC to enforce the restrictions.  Limits on how much I can send, and to whom I can send it.  Regulations that restrict profitable opportunities to “accredited investors”.  And so forth...

I doubt I need to underscore my passion and my principled demand for permissionless systems, which by their nature let me mess myself up if I so choose.

Dude you sound so suicidal its sad. I hope you don’t act out your forum name bro or is it sis.
6996  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: What's stopping companies making an actual space heater bitcoin miner for home? on: June 01, 2022, 04:08:35 AM
Bitmain already tried to produce the Antminer R4, but it wasn't very popular. Way back in 2013, the very first Bitcoin ASICs were from Butterfly Labs and they were quiet. Then we had Gridseeds for LTC/DOGE which used 50-100w each.

I think most people who home mine will buy GPU rigs without even considering a Bitcoin ASIC. If they're mining anyway, why not buy the equipment with the highest profit-to-power ratio?

This is spot on.

I got the apollo when it first came out and it is the only asic I am running in my home non stop.

I do run a ton of gpus in my home even now in the upcoming summer.

Why is that

 one quite quiet
two they still turn a profit at my summer power rate of 17 cents and 3 for cooling and it is  20 cents a kwatt. I burn 50 kwatts in mining each day so 0.20 x 50 = 10 usd in power cost

earnings are around 19 dollars.

if I ran a pair s17s set to 958 watts it would burn  about 10-11 and do 80 th with vnish firmware.

80th earns  10-11 bucks after the development fees.

so a bit louder and maybe break even with the s17s or

quiet and make say 7-8 bucks a day with the gpus with 17+3. = 20 cent summer in home power.
6997  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 31, 2022, 11:20:58 PM
Somehow, most people are indifferent to getting no interest.
It would have been an outrage in the 70-ies or 80-ies or even in the 90-ies, but somehow become acceptable.
An anecdote: I opened my first online brokerage account in 1997.
Do you know what was the interest on cash in my account?
4.75%, lol (with inflation at 2.3% back then and fed funds rate at 5.46%)
Now-ZERO (or some infinitesimally small number with inflation at 6-8%).
This does not make much sense.

Yes, i agree that 5-6% "bleed" in 12 mo is an uncharted territory.
I also saw a chart that shows 16% year-to-year decrease in income.


I have older friends one is 75 and one is 85 but they are sharp as tacks.

They owned a bank and had some very good investments in the 90's when I met them. 
They are by no means broke but both are complaining that their safe harbor bonds are killing them.
I got one of them into BTC set up a small mine for him.
I would love to get a good piece of property and build a 2 megawatt solar farm. Still working at that bigger solar array deal.
6998  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Will you declare the import amount low when you import the miner from China? on: May 31, 2022, 11:16:18 PM
Since the duty and penalty tax are so high.Will you declare the import amount lower when you import the miner from China?  What if the customs notice it, will there be more trouble?


Asking will you do a crime is not likely to get you honest answers.


If I buy from bitmain directly I know I am out 25-35% tax.

I figure it in.
6999  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: How bad can it get? on: May 31, 2022, 10:47:18 PM
IMO a bear market is the best time to mine if you own the equipment outright and can afford to pay your electricity bill without selling for fiat.  This is especially true if you paid retail or lower for your gear.  Oddly enough it seems like values have appreciated compared to pricing pre-chinese tariff.
You are right but the reason why a bear market is a good time to start mining is low mining difficulty, if no miners are leaving the network it will make no sense, look at the situation right now, we are in bear market but not as dip as that of 2018 where people are switching of their rigs, mining difficulty is still very high still.

Because miners are not in a bear market.  Yeah maybe 20 cent power miners are in trouble but not 10 cent power


Lets take my best rig it does 1030 mhs that is 1030 x 0.0237  = $24.41 pre power it burns 50 kwatts a day

so

$24.41 - 2.50 =   21.91 daily profit for a  5 cent miner-------- my farm
$24.41 - 5.00 =   19.41 daily profit for a 10 cent miner
$24.41 - 7.50 =   16.91 daily profit for a 15 cent miner-------- my garage
$24.41 - 10.00 = 14.41 daily profit for a 20 cent miner
$24.41 - 12.50 = 11.91 daily profit for a 25 cent miner

so we simply are not a bear mining market

anyone with over 25 cent power was more a fool than a miner.

I would argue you won't see any hash drop unless 10 cent miners are losers as that knocks out home mining in a lot of spots. { edit sp knocks }
7000  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 31, 2022, 10:30:03 PM

8.1% from the perspective of some other countries seems quite harmless, so I wouldn’t get too upset about it.

No, it's still shitty.

Actually it is terrible.

I lived in the USA  through all the 70's. inflation was 6-10 % year after year, but banks paid solid interest not 1,2,3%.


1978 USA inflation rate was 7.59% google it
1978 USA 30 year t-bill was 8.1 to 8.9% see link https://www.macrotrends.net/2521/30-year-treasury-bond-rate-yield-chart



2021 USA inflation rate was 4.57% google it
2021 USA 30 year t-bill was 1.7 to 2.2% see link https://www.macrotrends.net/2521/30-year-treasury-bond-rate-yield-chart

2022 USA to date rate is for last 12 month is 8.3%
2022 USA 30 year t-bill is a fucking joke at. 2.1% to 3.2%  https://www.macrotrends.net/2521/30-year-treasury-bond-rate-yield-chart


see that bleed in wealth  1978 if you had big money you gained on inflation maybe 1 to 2 %

now April 2021 to 2022 if you have big money you bleed  say 5 to 6%

Obviously we are only comparing USA inflation to USA t- bills.


But I am thinking that a 5 %  to 6 % bleed for 12 month time period is uncharted territory .

Maybe some wiz can find a worse time of inflation bleed in the USA  or in Europe form 1970 to 2022 for a 12 month time period. I am not sure it is there. I think this is it.
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