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701  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SpreadCoin | True Decentralization (No Pools) | Testing New Masternodes on: February 04, 2015, 04:38:15 PM
Heres some spreadcoin accepted here buttons I made for Merchants.

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Tip if you like them. Address in my sig. :-) Cheers to Another productive day.



Great stuff, thanks! Smiley
702  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SpreadCoin | True Decentralization (No Pools) | Testing New Masternodes on: February 04, 2015, 04:19:44 PM
where is the new way ?
pool mining,instamine,raped by super fast gpu miner,....
I really don't see any new way there.

And now you have revealed yourself as just another idiot parroting nonsense, lies, and hyperbole. Ignored.
703  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SpreadCoin | True Decentralization (No Pools) | Testing New Masternodes on: February 04, 2015, 04:16:57 PM
SPR MN uses a bad economic model,making the rich richer without any cost by deducting part of the mined coins.
It's even worse than PoS+PoW.

The same criticisms were levelled at Darkcoin. It always amused me to hear people complaining that Masternodes were 'just too damn profitable!'

Uh, invest in them then...?

Spead is a different case to Darkcoin though. With Spread, miners actually perform a useful function and secure the blockchain with decentralised hash. 98% of Darkcoin miners just aid in shortcircuiting blockchain security by mining on the same few pools, then bitch about their money hose shrinking because Masternodes are earning a cut of the block reward by providing everything that makes the coin valuable.

As MyFarm has pointed out, 'the market' wasn't valuing Spread's true decentralisation very highly, because 'the market' is currently a very tiny pack of speculators very few of whom have a grasp of crypto fundamenetals or even care about them. Masternodes in Spread will add value to the currency by providing tangible utility like Instant Transactions, and thus benefit miners.

If you're going to claim that this is a bad economic model then please state why, without resorting to vapid blather about 'the rich getting richer.'
704  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] Darkcoin | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW and Darksend | InstantX on: February 04, 2015, 03:48:40 AM
Found it

/Applications/Darkcoin-Qt.app/Contents/MacOS/Darkcoin-Qt -upgradewallet

Uhhhh yeah !
Tx man !!

Hope this will solve everything.

mine were all on 60001 !!
I will do a Social Media posting later that people really check on this !!!

I had no idea this was so important and an issue !
(I hope the next wallet versions do that by themselves !)

Do i have to start my MN's then after again ?!
As now on new version ?!

Tx
(last question, I promise  Wink)

No, you shouldn't need to touch your MNs at all if all you've done is upgrade your local/cold wallet.dat file(s).
705  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SpreadCoin | True Decentralization (No Pools) | Testing New Masternodes on: February 04, 2015, 03:04:20 AM
I'd be fine with Mr Spread closing this thread and starting a new moderated one.

I'm generally against censorship, but I'm more against having my time wasted by the technicolour bullshit of halfwits, and people so cowardly they're afraid to post under their usual pseudonyms.

Hard questions should be welcomed, and debated. Spammers can fuck right off.  Kiss

Look in the mirror king of shill accounts.

There's only one of me, the clue's in the name.

As you may have noticed I'm not afraid to speak my mind, I have no need of sockpuppet accounts.  Cheesy
706  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SpreadCoin | True Decentralization (No Pools) | Testing New Masternodes on: February 04, 2015, 02:47:54 AM
I'd be fine with Mr Spread closing this thread and starting a new moderated one.

I'm generally against censorship, but I'm more against having my time wasted by the technicolour bullshit of halfwits, and people so cowardly they're afraid to post under their usual pseudonyms.

Hard questions should be welcomed, and debated. Spammers can fuck right off.  Kiss
707  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SpreadCoin | True Decentralization (No Pools) | Testing New Masternodes on: February 04, 2015, 01:42:25 AM
Spreadnode ...
 


'spreadnodes' here is a curious case.

His words, taken individually, might be valid English, but when he strings them together they amalgamate into a poison soup of doublethink and gibberish as he waves the wrong end of every available stick about and seems confused as to why nobody is applauding his amazing display.

It's like that uncanny valley feeling of talking to an estate agent or a politician - you just know that under the surface mimicry there's really nothing recognizably human there at all.
708  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SpreadCoin | True Decentralization (No Pools) | Testing New Masternodes on: February 04, 2015, 01:37:30 AM
coins101 on market rigging:
Because there is price manipulation, I think there should be a significant market discount to the market price.

coins101 explaining that otoh is currently rigging the DRK price:
otoh has a put a price floor on DRK at 0.007. He has open orders around 400-500 BTC DRK on finex and 100 BTC on Cryptsy.

One can only conclude that DRK should thus also be available at a significant discount to market price, and wonder why coins101 is not in the DRK thread demanding this?

Believe it or not, I have actually thought about it. But he is a buyer on the open market, where supply is pretty liquid.

SPR doesn't have liquidity. It never has; mainly because it's been manipulated from the start.

That actually is a barrier to progress. To get an army of master nodes, you need liquidity. Otherwise you just get pockets of master node operators. Solo mining for decentralisation on the one hand; anonymity centralisation on the other  Huh

Trying to force the price up on a project that has no brand value and is not yet trusted is counter productive. If the early adopters want to hodl tight, you might as well wait 9 months for the coin supply to increase to allow a market to develop before releasing master nodes.

You know as well as I do that Darkcoin's price has been heavily manipulated throughout most of its life, just as it's being manipulated now - I have many, many posts in the DRK thread commenting on the obvious constant bot manipulation on Mintpal and elsewhere.

Crypto markets are the same as any other, those with more resources have an advantage over those with less. Your complaints against Spread could be applied to anything else.

Spread isn't waiting 9 months for anything, buy in or go cry into your panties somewhere else.  Grin

709  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SpreadCoin | True Decentralization (No Pools) | Testing New Masternodes on: February 04, 2015, 12:58:17 AM
coins101 on market rigging:
Because there is price manipulation, I think there should be a significant market discount to the market price.

coins101 explaining that otoh is currently rigging the DRK price:
otoh has a put a price floor on DRK at 0.007. He has open orders around 400-500 BTC DRK on finex and 100 BTC on Cryptsy.

One can only conclude that DRK should thus also be available at a significant discount to market price, and wonder why coins101 is not in the DRK thread demanding this?
710  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SpreadCoin | True Decentralization (No Pools) | Testing New Masternodes on: February 03, 2015, 11:24:03 PM
but seriously, this project at this stage is overpriced. it really should be closer to 0.0001000
i wonder how did you get this number? why not 0.00001/2/3 or just 1 sat? overpriced compared to what?

all jokes aside. the point is THERE ARE NO OVERPRICED/UNDERPRICED COINS. this is free market and it determines the price. if someone is willing to pay 0.01$/$1/$100/$1000 for a SPR that's the price. that's it. easy?

coins101's arse is like a magician's hat - it's amazing what he can pull out of it.  Grin
711  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Crytpo and Torrent Projects on: February 03, 2015, 10:18:16 PM
Darkleaks introduces torrent style downloads off the bitcoin blockchain.

https://medium.com/@ZozanCudi/darkleaks-information-blackmarket-1ee5ac28c892

Shit just got serious for rights owners, software vendors and just about anyone with anything to hide.

Someone should tell Zozan about Darkcoin.  Wink

People get killed over this shit. Darkcoin by itself isn't going to stop the CIA hit squad finding you, but why make it easy for them?
712  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SpreadCoin | True Decentralization (No Pools) | Testing New Masternodes on: February 03, 2015, 09:53:20 PM
Hi all
I am French, I think I have a problem to mine Spreadcoin

this is my .bat

sgminer -o http://127.0.0.1:41677 -u XXX -p XXX --thread-concurrency 8192 --lookup-gap 2 --worksize 64 -g 2 -I 14

this is my spreadcoin.conf

rpcuser=XXX
rpcpassword=XXX
rpcallowip=127.0.0.1
rpcport=41677
port=41678
gen=0
web server=1
server=1

everytime a have juste this on CMD

New block detected on network
Network diff set to 53
New block detected on network
Network diff set to 54
New block detected on network
Network diff set to 53
New block detected on network
Network diff set to 52


again and again and again, nothing else

think a lot for your help

looks ok. With a single GPU it will take you a little more than a day to break a block at current difficulty. This is not pooled mining where the pool gets lots of blocks and splits them. You'll have to wait until you get a block on your own (but then, you don't split it with anyone).

You should also increase the "-I 14" value to something bigger than 18. "-I 21" is the best value on my R9 280x. You should try something on those lines.

You mean with the current optimized miner being used by a couple large farms the chances of a normal person being able to acquire any spreadcoin by mining is next to none.

If you are mining spreadcoin with a couple of GPU's you might as well switch them to something else.  You have a better chance of winning the lottery than mining spreadcoin.  All your doing is using electricity.  Mining spreadcoin is now controlled by a few large farms using optimized miners.  

I thought the no pool solo mining only concept was great at first.  Then I realized it was just a ploy to be able to hide what's actually going on.  Private optimized miner, private pools.  

what do you recommand to me Huh

Increase your intensity setting. Ignore coins101/spreadnodes. Have patience.  Cheesy
713  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SpreadCoin | True Decentralization (No Pools) | Testing New Masternodes on: February 03, 2015, 05:54:51 PM
So does anyone know what is going on with testing as of right now?

Just waiting for the new build. You can see the first round of testing discussion here: http://spreadcointalk.org/index.php?topic=37.0
714  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SpreadCoin | True Decentralization (No Pools) | Testing New Masternodes on: February 03, 2015, 02:56:37 PM
A question for the devs, has Spreadcoin retained multisig functionality since it was forked from Darkcoin?

AFAIK, it had problems that were fixed by Mr. Spread in the latest wallet. You should try to ask in http://spreadcointalk.org/

Edit found the post where he said that here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=715435.msg10245606#msg10245606

Many thanks for that.  Appreciated.

EDIT:  Its not something we have had much luck with on Darkcoin either although I'm not sure the devs have devoted much time to it yet.

Multisig works perfectly in Darkcoin. Has done for at least six months since I first played with it anyway.
715  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SpreadCoin | True Decentralization (No Pools) | Testing New Masternodes on: February 03, 2015, 01:50:29 AM
b]WOW Sorry for typing so much Mr. Crouton

Don't let me put you off, I'm just a grumpy old fart on the internet.  Tongue
716  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SpreadCoin | True Decentralization (No Pools) | Testing New Masternodes on: February 03, 2015, 01:35:42 AM
So how many unique solo miners do you reckon SPR has to make up the current hashrate?

That may be unknowable with any degree of certainty, but we can make an educated guess:

Say there's 4GH/s total and the top 26 miners account for 20% of that, as per the pie chart that I so love posting. The smallest of those 26 miners has 0.2% of the total (I don't know what rounding might have went on but we'll go with it) which is 8MH/s, or about 6 750Ti cards or equivalent.

The other 80% of the total, 3.2GH/s, could be made up of

400 miners with 8MH/s each
800 miners with 4MH/s each
1600 miners with 2MH/s each
3200 miners with 1MH/s each

... but is almost certainly a distribution curve with larger numbers at the bottom, having, individually, smaller hashrates. Remember a lot of people still CPU mine just on the offchance, like you with your Antminers on BTC.

So I don't think I was way off with my 'thousands of smaller miners' comment. And any way you slice it it's at least hundreds of times more decentralised than just about every other PoW coin.
717  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SpreadCoin | True Decentralization (No Pools) | Testing New Masternodes on: February 03, 2015, 01:03:00 AM
http://spreadcointalk.org/index.php?topic=37.msg1090#msg1090

Mr. Spread just said that he is working on the next improved testnet version.
Because the next round will require restarting the blockchain, we might just as well stop round 1 of the testing now, no need to waste precious energy.

Next testing round will begin soon!

Thanks to everybody who participated in round 1 of testing!  Smiley


Splendid. Smiley

 
718  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SpreadCoin | True Decentralization (No Pools) | Testing New Masternodes on: February 03, 2015, 12:21:17 AM
I remember running my mining farm and I was constantly monitoring it. Others I have talked to was the same. I think it is far more likely that large farms are actively monitoring what they are hashing and where. If I'm playing in the sand, you certainly are as well.

No problem then, I'm sure all will be well, but personally I'm not comfortable having the blockchain that holds my money (particularly in a currency that if successful is more than most going to attract the attention of sociopaths with unlimited budgets and armies of killers) be under the control of just two people, I prefer to use an actually decentralised cryptocurrency. Smiley

So then you probably should sell your Darkcoin then, no?

Spend it, probably, yes. Cheesy   Hasn't quite come to that yet though, but things can change very quickly and a little preparedness is always wise.
719  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SpreadCoin | True Decentralization (No Pools) | Testing New Masternodes on: February 03, 2015, 12:06:06 AM
I remember running my mining farm and I was constantly monitoring it. Others I have talked to was the same. I think it is far more likely that large farms are actively monitoring what they are hashing and where. If I'm playing in the sand, you certainly are as well.

No problem then, I'm sure all will be well, but personally I'm not comfortable having the blockchain that holds my money (particularly in a currency that if successful is more than most going to attract the attention of sociopaths with unlimited budgets and armies of killers) be under the control of just two people, I prefer to use an actually decentralised cryptocurrency. Smiley
720  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SpreadCoin | True Decentralization (No Pools) | Testing New Masternodes on: February 02, 2015, 11:36:06 PM
...yeah and every individual miner mining through that pool is going to magically continue mining for an exploited pool. Get real.

Most miners don't give a damn and certainly aren't monitoring network stats all day long. And since they all have the same three or four failover pools, changing pools is going to accomplish jack shit anyway.

You need to take your head out of the sand.
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